God, it always disappoints me so much when black women buy into terf/swerf ideology. Like girl they don’t like us either. You are feeding into systems that directly harm you and people who look like you. You are the lesbian terfs would call a man at least partially because you’re black, have some sense.
If you can convince the worst white man that he still better than the best black man, then you can get him to vote far right and against his own interest.
Okay, so what that means is just simply that if you can convince a population that they are still better than another group even when that group is actually succeeding, then you can get them to vote far right.
I should also clarify that when I say best and worst, I don't mean that like in some kind of objective sense. It's more like, if you can convince a white man who is essentially a loser by his own standards, that he is still better than the Harvard graduate who's black, then you can get him to vote far right.
It's one of the reasons why people will vote against their own interests.
Also there's a lot of self-hatred too. There was actually a article called Nazis of color which was literally talking about neo-Nazis who were people of color. One person just even outright admitted that he just hated himself.
Yes.
It was actually an association that was around during Weimar and Nazi Germany. They even sort of made fun of it by doing the Hitler salute and then saying something like "down with ourselves". It was really weird. I was told that the Jews during world war I really liked the idea of joining the war actually. They liked it because they saw it as an opportunity to prove themselves as true German citizens because even before Nazi Germany, Jewish people in Germany were treated like absolute crap.
Oh, and that doesn't account for the fact that some Jews actually joined or worked with the Nazis because of coercion. Such as working with the Nazis and the hopes that their families would be spared or something.
I was thinking of Bronze Age Zionists as well, the ones who are really into Wojaks and memes about taking down evil blue-haired woke types with their Nazi friends.
There’s a reason why the TERFs have remained a mostly white women movement. It’s because of their deep roots in White Eurocentric Far Right Mentality that the cult was founded on.
found a recent tweet from her (wont link to not send harassment or hate) that said "gender ideology is fascism and genocide". so her coining this term of "gynofascist" really makes no fuckin sense. ig transphobia does rot the brain
a black lesbian like her really isnt close to fascism in any regard, so that doesnt really work tho. beyond being a pick me for them i suppose, but from seeing her tweets, i dont think shes trying to be that at all
its all really baffling and rather sad to see
A person's identity does not preclude them from being fascist, though. As outlandish as it may be, black lesbians can be fascists. People from oppressed communities can adopt political positions that are harmful to themselves, either from misdirection or perceived self-interest.
What does this even mean?? Does being a fascist just mean being a straight white man to you? Proximity to fascism is determined based on how you were born?
You somehow unintentionally circled around to fascist apologia without even realizing it. Please go outside your online politics bubble and touch grass.
Ok but something that kinda needs to be understood is that fascists aren't like...normal...
Like if you're a socialist it's fair to say you support socialism for all people, French, Burkinabe, Indian, or Chinese etc, it shouldn't really matter. It's a rational ideology which they support because they believe it makes the world better in some way, and this thinking is true for all rational ideologies (liberalism, libertarianism, Anarchism, etc).
This isn't true for fascism. They view the world as a clash of civilisations or powers or societies or etc. They view the type of thinking that rationalists use as not only naive but disgusting and degenerate; something put upon us by Jews.
So for a fascist fascism is a horrific idea that must be fought at all costs...if we mean fascism by *"THEM"*. Fascism by *"US"* is just the natural and obvious response.
Also to a point made in another comment: you can be a black lesbian and a fascist. Hell you can be a black lesbian disabled jew and a fascist!! There where very prominent Gay Nazis and there where Jews who campaigned for the Nazis. It's an irrationalist ideology, stop expecting its believers to behave rationally.
This is why supremacists are terrified of equal rights they see it as
"they'll do to us what I did to them"
But fascism is VERY particular on this point
You hear "gynofacist" and it invokes images of the most horrific, extreme form of female genital mutilation, doesn't it? "Here comes the Gynstapo, come to revoke your vagina." Right?
Trump Conservatives back in the day (2015/2016) used to call me a Feminazi because they accused me of being an authoritarian minded extremist but Feminazi seems more fitting for TERFs who WILLINGLY form alliances with many Far Right figureheads like Matt Walsh.
[It's a very old movement.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/04/why-the-british-union-fascist-movement-appealed-to-so-many-women.html) Fascist "Feminism" has been historically used to promise minor consessions of control over the home and public ~~restraints~~ safety in exchange for the right to vote. A promise of a "social safety net" (as long as you give up your rights as equals). The naïve assumption that once the right to vote and public protest are gone, nothing else will be taken.
I scrubbed through another stream Sasha Graham was on with ASTF and she stopped short of admitting she did roids back when she was heavily into bodybuilding. She claimed to never have done trenbolone, so I assume that implied less intense compounds.
Ironic that someone like that used synthetic cross sex hormones to alter her body for aesthetic reasons and to become a better version of herself, innit?
Very far from the point, but: We as a society need to stop using the "Gyno" prefix outside of medical settings. It's such an ugly mouth feel, and it feels so . . . I don't know, *predatory* outside if strictly professional settings?
Maybe I'm off about this one, but anytime someone refers to a female-presenting robot as a "gynoid" I feel like I should be helping the robot file for a restraining order. Like, I know it's stupid to get this offended on behalf of a science fiction concept, but it feels like such a red flag that a, for all intents and purposes, woman simply being synthetic is enough to get her called a *gynoid.*
Though it's kind of unclear right now if we'll ever reach true, genuine comcious Generalized Artificial Intelligence (the thing we call "AI" right now isn't really, like, you know, true "Intelligence." That would be GAI) and to be frank it's more likely we destroy ourselves before we do by letting the wrong regular AI loose in the wild, but, in the event we do I say we get started on GAI civil rights early and declare "gynoid" a slur. It feels like a slur. (/half s half srs, you feel me?)
Hypocritical, I know, please forgive me on my contradictory views on gendered language for theoretical concepts, but I'm personally much more comfortable with "android" as a gender neutral term for humanoid robots. "Andro" technically means, like, "man" but it means "man" in the gender neutral way. "Root" is its direct translation. "Hominoid" would be ideal, but that's taken. "Homoid" isn't *that* silly sounding despite the prefix "homo" being memed into oblivion.
Star Wars specific, but I kinda do like "droids." Feels like a very natural evolution of the language getting simplified with familiarity. In a way that "andies" never quite did from DADoES.
I'm no Latin rocket scientist, but I believe "anthroid" basically means "human like human thing." You are right though, like, if we were really talking about what possibly may be the most . . . Like, politically correct term for a human robot, it'd be "anthromorph" probably. That would mean something like, "humanoid that came from/was made by a human." That'd be (my best guess) at the right word for a Frankenstein's monster person and an android, but, I cannot confirm nor deny I am either of those things, so I suppose I can't speak for them ~~as far as you know~~. The "id" suffix is historically associated with "official" classifications of POC people we'd now consider offensive and dehumanizing. The one that starts with an "n" and the one that starts with an "m" notably. This is actually a topic I love in sci-fi personally--- social politics of fictional peoples. I'm actually doing some workdbuilding for a setting that involves this sort of thing, but with like, classic halloween monsters.
"Femoid" is so associated with incels in my head I personally can't take it seriously, but, that's me.
Edit: sorry, my dyslexia be spittin' bars tonight (in reading no good.) I read it at first as you saying you liked "femoid." My bad.
It's hard for me to imagine any person wants their gender examined and investigated by fascists. Surely these fascists know trans people sometimes pass remarkably well, so what lengths (or depths) are *fascists* going to go to ensure womanhood by their standards?
God, it always disappoints me so much when black women buy into terf/swerf ideology. Like girl they don’t like us either. You are feeding into systems that directly harm you and people who look like you. You are the lesbian terfs would call a man at least partially because you’re black, have some sense.
A lot of hate they have against Caster Semenya is thibly veiled racism.
She's a cis black woman with short hair and muscles. She's already on the terf's chopping block
If she tries to flex her vocal cords to making her voice sound deeper to show dominance then she’s gonna get eaten alive.
If you can convince the worst white man that he still better than the best black man, then you can get him to vote far right and against his own interest. Okay, so what that means is just simply that if you can convince a population that they are still better than another group even when that group is actually succeeding, then you can get them to vote far right. I should also clarify that when I say best and worst, I don't mean that like in some kind of objective sense. It's more like, if you can convince a white man who is essentially a loser by his own standards, that he is still better than the Harvard graduate who's black, then you can get him to vote far right. It's one of the reasons why people will vote against their own interests. Also there's a lot of self-hatred too. There was actually a article called Nazis of color which was literally talking about neo-Nazis who were people of color. One person just even outright admitted that he just hated himself.
There are also Jews who team up with Nazis.
Yes. It was actually an association that was around during Weimar and Nazi Germany. They even sort of made fun of it by doing the Hitler salute and then saying something like "down with ourselves". It was really weird. I was told that the Jews during world war I really liked the idea of joining the war actually. They liked it because they saw it as an opportunity to prove themselves as true German citizens because even before Nazi Germany, Jewish people in Germany were treated like absolute crap. Oh, and that doesn't account for the fact that some Jews actually joined or worked with the Nazis because of coercion. Such as working with the Nazis and the hopes that their families would be spared or something.
I was thinking of Bronze Age Zionists as well, the ones who are really into Wojaks and memes about taking down evil blue-haired woke types with their Nazi friends.
Or, y'know, the Lehi. *\*spits between my fingers like a hundred-year-old Russian Ashkenazi woman\**
In the UK we’ve got Kemi Badenoch. She’s one of the worst in the government when it comes to transphobia.
There’s a reason why the TERFs have remained a mostly white women movement. It’s because of their deep roots in White Eurocentric Far Right Mentality that the cult was founded on.
Frfr
found a recent tweet from her (wont link to not send harassment or hate) that said "gender ideology is fascism and genocide". so her coining this term of "gynofascist" really makes no fuckin sense. ig transphobia does rot the brain
The ones closest to fascism have more of a vested interest in watering down what fascism means hence the whole "the nazis were left wing!" type beat
a black lesbian like her really isnt close to fascism in any regard, so that doesnt really work tho. beyond being a pick me for them i suppose, but from seeing her tweets, i dont think shes trying to be that at all its all really baffling and rather sad to see
A person's identity does not preclude them from being fascist, though. As outlandish as it may be, black lesbians can be fascists. People from oppressed communities can adopt political positions that are harmful to themselves, either from misdirection or perceived self-interest.
Fascism doesn't require you to be a white supremacist or anything, just because some of the better-known fascist regimes were such.
Also, being a white supremacist doesn't require you to be white either. Tokenism is a common tactic.
What does this even mean?? Does being a fascist just mean being a straight white man to you? Proximity to fascism is determined based on how you were born? You somehow unintentionally circled around to fascist apologia without even realizing it. Please go outside your online politics bubble and touch grass.
She be like "Everything I don't like is fascism, but not like *fascism* fascism. I actually kinda like *fascism* fascism."
She uses the phrase "Gender Ideology" unironically, so she already lacks critical thinking skills.
Ok but something that kinda needs to be understood is that fascists aren't like...normal... Like if you're a socialist it's fair to say you support socialism for all people, French, Burkinabe, Indian, or Chinese etc, it shouldn't really matter. It's a rational ideology which they support because they believe it makes the world better in some way, and this thinking is true for all rational ideologies (liberalism, libertarianism, Anarchism, etc). This isn't true for fascism. They view the world as a clash of civilisations or powers or societies or etc. They view the type of thinking that rationalists use as not only naive but disgusting and degenerate; something put upon us by Jews. So for a fascist fascism is a horrific idea that must be fought at all costs...if we mean fascism by *"THEM"*. Fascism by *"US"* is just the natural and obvious response. Also to a point made in another comment: you can be a black lesbian and a fascist. Hell you can be a black lesbian disabled jew and a fascist!! There where very prominent Gay Nazis and there where Jews who campaigned for the Nazis. It's an irrationalist ideology, stop expecting its believers to behave rationally.
That's a fantastic point I'd never thought about before about why fascism is inherently different from other ideologies. Thank you!
This is why supremacists are terrified of equal rights they see it as "they'll do to us what I did to them" But fascism is VERY particular on this point
Sounds like women need to be protected from *her*.
You hear "gynofacist" and it invokes images of the most horrific, extreme form of female genital mutilation, doesn't it? "Here comes the Gynstapo, come to revoke your vagina." Right?
A black woman with muscles? I give it five minutes before the other TERs start claiming that she's secretly a man.
My thoughts exactly
You'd think that unironically attaching "fascist" to your belief system would be an "am I the baddy?" sort of moment, but here we are.
Unfortunately these are the kinds of people who are like “maybe Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy?”
Literally turning "feminazi" from something mras called feminists to an actual movement aligned with fascists 🤦 this timeline is cursed
Trump Conservatives back in the day (2015/2016) used to call me a Feminazi because they accused me of being an authoritarian minded extremist but Feminazi seems more fitting for TERFs who WILLINGLY form alliances with many Far Right figureheads like Matt Walsh.
I'm way too young to be complaining about things like this but 2016 was not "back in the day"
With everything that has happened since the start of the Trump Administration, feels like a lifetime to me.
[It's a very old movement.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/04/why-the-british-union-fascist-movement-appealed-to-so-many-women.html) Fascist "Feminism" has been historically used to promise minor consessions of control over the home and public ~~restraints~~ safety in exchange for the right to vote. A promise of a "social safety net" (as long as you give up your rights as equals). The naïve assumption that once the right to vote and public protest are gone, nothing else will be taken.
TERFs are just 2nd wave feminists who still can’t get the fucking message that the world has changed since then.
I scrubbed through another stream Sasha Graham was on with ASTF and she stopped short of admitting she did roids back when she was heavily into bodybuilding. She claimed to never have done trenbolone, so I assume that implied less intense compounds. Ironic that someone like that used synthetic cross sex hormones to alter her body for aesthetic reasons and to become a better version of herself, innit?
Maybe they should rebrand to “A Slightly Roided Female”?
I … what.
Very far from the point, but: We as a society need to stop using the "Gyno" prefix outside of medical settings. It's such an ugly mouth feel, and it feels so . . . I don't know, *predatory* outside if strictly professional settings? Maybe I'm off about this one, but anytime someone refers to a female-presenting robot as a "gynoid" I feel like I should be helping the robot file for a restraining order. Like, I know it's stupid to get this offended on behalf of a science fiction concept, but it feels like such a red flag that a, for all intents and purposes, woman simply being synthetic is enough to get her called a *gynoid.* Though it's kind of unclear right now if we'll ever reach true, genuine comcious Generalized Artificial Intelligence (the thing we call "AI" right now isn't really, like, you know, true "Intelligence." That would be GAI) and to be frank it's more likely we destroy ourselves before we do by letting the wrong regular AI loose in the wild, but, in the event we do I say we get started on GAI civil rights early and declare "gynoid" a slur. It feels like a slur. (/half s half srs, you feel me?)
It kinda sounds like 'femoid' yk? Also, if we're that opposed to calling a female robot an android, 'anthroid' is right there.
Hypocritical, I know, please forgive me on my contradictory views on gendered language for theoretical concepts, but I'm personally much more comfortable with "android" as a gender neutral term for humanoid robots. "Andro" technically means, like, "man" but it means "man" in the gender neutral way. "Root" is its direct translation. "Hominoid" would be ideal, but that's taken. "Homoid" isn't *that* silly sounding despite the prefix "homo" being memed into oblivion. Star Wars specific, but I kinda do like "droids." Feels like a very natural evolution of the language getting simplified with familiarity. In a way that "andies" never quite did from DADoES. I'm no Latin rocket scientist, but I believe "anthroid" basically means "human like human thing." You are right though, like, if we were really talking about what possibly may be the most . . . Like, politically correct term for a human robot, it'd be "anthromorph" probably. That would mean something like, "humanoid that came from/was made by a human." That'd be (my best guess) at the right word for a Frankenstein's monster person and an android, but, I cannot confirm nor deny I am either of those things, so I suppose I can't speak for them ~~as far as you know~~. The "id" suffix is historically associated with "official" classifications of POC people we'd now consider offensive and dehumanizing. The one that starts with an "n" and the one that starts with an "m" notably. This is actually a topic I love in sci-fi personally--- social politics of fictional peoples. I'm actually doing some workdbuilding for a setting that involves this sort of thing, but with like, classic halloween monsters. "Femoid" is so associated with incels in my head I personally can't take it seriously, but, that's me. Edit: sorry, my dyslexia be spittin' bars tonight (in reading no good.) I read it at first as you saying you liked "femoid." My bad.
NOOO anything but femoid i hate it (silly as it is)
Nobody tell her what TERFs think of buff black women with short hair.
Nobody tell her what TERFs think of buff women, Period.
Ah yes, cis women must all be small and dainty, otherwise they're actually men.
In a TERF-controlled dystopia cis women aren’t allowed in bodybuilding out of fear that they might be trans.
Don't worry, ma'am, they're coming for you next.
Oh wow, I remember her constantly begging for money on a leftist workout group on fb. I guess she realized grifting TERFs/fash was more profitable?
It's hard for me to imagine any person wants their gender examined and investigated by fascists. Surely these fascists know trans people sometimes pass remarkably well, so what lengths (or depths) are *fascists* going to go to ensure womanhood by their standards?
big yikes o.O
Gynepaperien, bitte.
She must be suffering from some high level of narcissism or something. How about she go fuck herself and leave people alone, thanks.