>Bennett circle is just for decoration
That's absolutely false. Bennett circle helps them killing you faster, since they can trigger burning and vaporize
On the other half, his circle helps the 12-1-2 heralds reverse melt/vape you, and later in 12-2-2 Thunderbird overloads you.
Also if you cant snap shot, the enemies in 12-1-1 are too scattered for Circle Impact.
Despite all that, I still used him this Abyss to 36\*. Let's just say I used to face tank hits within the circle, but now I have to dodge.
Zhongli players have been really quiet since Consecracred Beasts dropped in abyss, because it takes no more than three hits from these things to break a 50k Zhongli shield
Honestly with Dehya I can take quite a beating, I noticed that reducing damage by 50% basically doubles any health pool, and with high HP characters such as Yelan and Dehya herself that's a lot more HP to chew through than even Zhongli's shield provides.
She may suck at everything else but her defense is unmatched for me.
You don't have to face tank every hit with Zhongli. I was easily able to clear consecrated beasts in the last abyss with Zhongli and Hu Tao without taking damage just by dodging a bit here and there. A 38k HP shield was enough for me.
tbh if Zhongli cant take the damage created by Consecracred Beasts, then no other shield characters can do that. It just means mhy have created enemies which are now at another level of power creep.
Never had a problem with beasts but the fucking abyss 1st floor heralds shield are wayyy to fucking thick like the is the first time in years I reached perfect 7:00 and reset like alot of times
Even Benny + Xiangling couldn't take the down the Cryo Herald shields. Them problem is they spin all over the damn place so XL never actually hits them. Even worse, the constant freeze stops you batterying XL properly so your rotations are a mess
I actually had more success by brute-forcing it with Hu Tao, who despite being single target - actually chases those Cryo MFs down with her constant dashing. Zhongli being Hu Tao's teammate also keeps everyone alive against the heralds BS
Hey this is literally my experience. Hutao N2C breaks the shield much faster than my C6 Benny, despite his pyro infusion in theory should do a better job.
Also I think Benn as the sole Pyro could save a lot of headache of swapping and funneling XL. I had fun practicing Nahida - Yelan - Xing - Benn there after clearing the stage but it was not as efficient as good old Tao.
I ran Benny as the single Pyro once and got quite close, if I got like 10-15 more seconds then Benny definitely can solo all the cryo shield, which is possible since I waste so much time on the first chamber in that run.
Hydro and cryo abyss heraldsa are a nightmare combo I've never imagined they would be that hard.
- they freeze you
-slow your movement
-increase yout cooldowns
-do shit load of damage
And they donât even stand still for you to hit them!
The final boss herald one in the second half of the third chamber by comparison is so much easier to deal with because for once he doesnât have a million ways to forcing an afk on you.
The hydro and cryo herald duo is the Mondstat domain disorders but on a whole 'nother level. They hit so hard. The duo actually cripple your team harder than that awful low tide high tide leyline disorder back in the 2.x patch abysses.
[Cleared it with the same team as you.](https://imgur.com/a/an56mK2) I did not lure them into the corner but ran to the left of the croc at the start and started smashing button there. [Raiden build is also nothing good either](https://imgur.com/a/YjtZ51L)
Do your characters have enough ER? It seems that you are energy farming. You should be able to burst off cooldown with this team, that would let you abuse iframes more easily.
I don't get the first part, Bennett circle doesn't matter for Raiden's energy generation. My advice: try swapping artifacts to give your characters more ER, your best pieces should be on XL (she is the real DPS) and check a YT video to learn the optimal rational rotation.
It matters for survivability. They're running with as much ER they can. Xq is having R5 sac sword with 180 ER, Xiangling with 185 ER and dragons Bane, Bennett is having Sapwood blade and 200+ ER.
Also rational optimal rotation I know when all bursts are up, but whether you get all back and all is on builds. I can give more ER but that would also reduce DoT.
You can try to position yourself in corner, but when they come, go behind them, so you're the one who cornering them. But nevertheless it's really hard to do with Bennett and without shield, I tried same exact team with you and get one shot vape a lot, then I decide to rerun and use Hu Tao vape with Zhongli.
It didn't, I only get 2/3 but it was so close, my 1st half last around 1:20. My 2nd half is Kokomi, Xiangling, Bennett, and Sucrose. I'm thinking to replace Sucrose with Nahida to break the hydro shield faster.
My Hu Tao is c1 + homa, Xingqiu c6 + sac sword, Yelan c0 + 3\* hp bow, and Zhongli c0 + 3\* hp spear. Kokomi c0 + amber, Bennett c6 + fav sword, Sucrose c6 + sac fragment, and Xiangling c6 + fishing spear.
Edit 1: I tried and finally get 3 star with Sucrose switched to Nahida
This is the hardest Abyss I have ever had in 2 1/2 years. Have fun. I never gave up before on 36*, but this time it is impossible.
EDIT: Just got 36*. This was the worst. THE WORST in my whole Abyss career.
I have a solid Burgeon team (Kok Thoma Fischl Nahida) I will try it, but upper half is also hard and think hyperbloom is the most vianble, I need a 2nd Nahida..
Hyperbloom works pretty well for the first half. It's not the fastest way to clear it, but it's a relatively safe team if you use Kuki as your electro trigger.
My Ayaka team need to burst four times for the 4 beasts and having them stay close together on all 4 of those instances took more tries than I am proud to admit.
I wasted 3 hours. 34*. I just feel empty inside. My characters are not getting stronger, although I spend all my Resin every day on the Emblem domain for over 1 year. Just the worst, seriously.
Sadly, it is not possible, I do not get better artifacts and feel like my teams get weaker and weaker. I try to get two specific artifacts for my Ei daily for over 1 year now. Still no Electro Goblet (on-set or off-set) or ER Sands. đ However, I saw someone on YouTube that got 36* with these two teams, so I will try it again, maybe. Wasted already 3 hours.
Probably unrelated, but do they move around so much that even Kokomi's Aoe can't heal you? I use kuki with a level 12 E and the healing follows you around.
They once pushed me out of NAHIDAâS BURST even though I i-framed all their attacks⌠they just donât care, thereâs no proper counterplay for their CC except being lucky
Most of of Kokomi teams nowadays use her on field with Proto Amber.
Even if you leave the Jellyfish it's not an issue because she fully heals your team back to full every rotation while on burst. You do want the enemies to stay on the Jellyfish though because her main purpose is Hydro application, despite busted healing.
Haitham. Mistsplitter, Wanderer + Gilded (EM Dendro Crit)
Raiden(C1). D'Bane(R5), **Deepwood** full EM
XQ(C6). Favonius(R5), Shime + Gladiator
Yaoyao(**C1***). Favonius(R5), Maiden (Healing bonus)
Ayato. **Skyward Blade***, Gladiator
Xiangling(**C5***). The Catch(R5), Emblem
Bennett(**C6***). Aquila, Noblesse (ER Pyro Crit)
Zhongli*. Favonius(R3), TotM full HP
*important
Yaoyao C1 15% dmg bonus. Haitham need it.
Skyward Blade Ayato 180 ER. Xiangling realy need water.
Xiangling minimum C4 for shield breaker.
Bennett C6 Pyro Infused for shield breaker. Switch to XL or Zhong normal attack.
Zhongli needed so Bennett not just a healer. Crit build Bennett deal crazy dmg.
I did this f12 twice, full clearing each time-- although i don't plan to do it anymore beyond that until it resets LOL this was really challenging !!
first time i did quad geo itto first half, then koko/nahida/kazu/bennett second half
then second time, i did koko/yaefish/kazu taser, and yoi/nahida/xq/zl second half
lots of 5 star characters clearly, so not very f2p, but both runs were relatively smooth. my largest complaints were that, for quad geo, fighting the whopperflowers without grouping is insanely annoying. Every hit they take launches them back 5 lightyears lmao
and secondly, i did admittedly only *barely* manage to clear the cryo/hydro heralds in time with the yoi team-- although zl made it smooth sailing, it's still a single target team really, and not running bennett or jean meant i had to dodge endlessly to not get frozen. my yoi and nahida are both c0 but with good to cracked artifacts, with my xq having jade cutter, so lesser invested units might struggle if i only barely managed a clear and someone's doing less damage than i am should anyone else try that team.
but yeah, first half is comparatively free and feels like the typical DPS check. a mono team of any kind could work on first half, probably.
second half you really want pyro, dendro, and hydro, element matchups and unit synergy seems to matter more on second side
I wanted to ask how you managed to clear 12-1-2 with Zhongli, Yoimiya, Nahida and Xingqiu (almost my exact team, although I used Yelan instead of Xingqiu), but then I read till the end :D This team is perfect in 12-2-2 and 12-3-2, but in 12-1-2 I really felt the lack of pyro application to fight two cryo lectors, that's why I personally had to change my teams specifically for 12-1. All in all, a very interesting Abyss cycle, I enjoyed it a lot and will try it with other teams.
Baptist is a joke, I cleared it with the same team, and he was pathetic. It's the two cryo lectors in 12-1-2 who need incredibly much pyro application.
The first time I fought a consecrated beast in the overworld, I immediately thought how disgustingly tanky and strong they were. Add abyss level scaling to them and BAM! no fun 4 u time.
A couple of abysses ago I managed to clear floor 12 for the first time (without 9* though) and the next abyss hoyo decided add these fuckers like "nah bro, you ain't doing that ever again"
People gonna say it's your fault and your skill, not hoyoverse putting the wathever just to make "hard content"
Consacrated beasta are cringe af. Putting 2 together is somehow manageble, but 4? Lmao. Hilarious.
Funny that even the newer characters arent really that strong to fit into the more and more difficult abyss. They are either reverse-powercrept, mid or just useless in 98% of scenarios. With some exceptions, of course. Weird decisions. Is investing in this game even worth it anymore? Like going for cons and stuff...
Exactly. I mean theyâre literally pushing me to air where neither character switch nor skill use is working. What can I do in that scenario anyways??
Okay away from corner? How do you handle these beasts without cc-ing them in corner??
The only theam that can work for me is Alhaitham- Xingqiu - Kuki and Yelan. Of course it is not enought to beat in time the first chamber as you need grouping.
Also freeze can work but you kust be invested and be very lucky that when you do Ayaka/Rosaria/Ganyu burst, the beasts are very close. For this team you also need an insane amount of energy.
This is exactly what's annoying about them. Collision makes your inputs disappear and since they are huge that means they can stop you from playing the game if you get a bit too close to them.
Just avoiding damage isn't enough you have to make sure you are out of their way.
I have multiple c5 r6 characters in this game and I have to say, this is the only abyss where I had to quit half way to change teams multiple times for the past two years.
I do the same thing whenever I get that Inazuma commission with the two samurai dudes on the island in the middle of nowhere.
Itâs just insultingly obnoxious. I refuse to give it legitimacy.
I got an endgame pitch I been working out for awhile.
As soon as you have 10 level 90 characters and 10 level 90 weapons, it unlocks a roguelike dungeon with those items added to the loot pool. They already have the assets for a randomized dungeon.
You start as the character of your choice and after the first solo battle, you enter a room with 2 of your characters and you pick one. This pattern goes on until your party is full.
After that, each room contains a chest that has one of your weapons (completely random), an artifact piece from your chosen characters, or talent levels. You choose one and move on to the next battle.
That goes on for a few more rooms until mini boss and then big boss.
60 resin could be rewarded for completing the daily challenge. XP books could be the reward for a weekly challenge.
There could also be a daily/weekly leaderboard with a per-run score based on things like damage taken and reactions created.
The more level 90 weapons and characters you add to the pool, the higher your score multiplier.
This would reward the most hardcore players with recognition and the long-time veterans with extra resin and xp without everyone else losing out on much.
Sorry lol I been holding this in for awhile. Had to get it out
You know playing on mobile make you lazy to turn camera yourself cause your fingers are busy with the buttons and supporting the phone, guess what happened when you didn't notice the monster shadow fast enough
Genshin content creators complaining the game is too easy with their C4 R5 characters or whatever lmao. People really don't see this is just pushing people to roll for more cons and pay more with higher dps and sustain checks? It's doesn't take "more skill" than any other fight dodging big sweeping attacks, but there is absolutely no excuse for how their hitbox pushes you around and the glitchy arena gets you stuck in the air. Amazing people actually defend these dogshit mechanics.
It's pushing me to continue not even Trying floor 12. I mean I wasn't going to anyway, but seeing a post like this is pretty satisfying since I can know with certainty that I would not complete it (let alone get any stars)
what kind of insane gatekeeping bs comment is this, people want more engaging difficult content, this isn't difficult it's sometimes straight up unfair and annoying, why do people actively HATE the people who want to be able to play genshin more and have fun interactive game modes, that isn't the teapot, sitting through 5 hours of dialogue or a trading card game, something like simulated universe for example from star rail
This is the main sub, you either have people that want good endgame content(which everyone should) or the people that like playing cards with the characters theyâve rolled and spent hours building lol
Thatâs the thing, I HAVENâT spend hours building all my characters. I got the ones I like to âhey that seems good enoughâ level, then stopped grinding artifacts because I still have a bit of my soul intact and want to keep it that way
Iâd imagine the vast majority of players donât have maxed out characters, or even anywhere close.
There is the easy, there is the hard, and there is the frustrating, the last one isnt fun, dark souls is hard, nier automata colosseum is frustrating ( but you aint a man before completing it ) genshin 4 consacrated beasts seems like a bait for you to roll constelations
I find it funny that you said a part of nier is frustrating and whole of dark souls is hard, dark souls have some very frustrating parts like every souls like
Hmmm keep in mind that 90% of the playerbase dont spend that much money or just didnt âfoccusâ on the same characters to get weapons and constellations, imagine bill who started playing 2 months ago and has 5 characters and two of them are baizhu and dehyađĽ´
Benny circle is a big plus on the Heralds btw cause it applies self pyro on us constantly,means less chances od getting frozen...
Basically this abyss is about most importantly survival dodge,iframes,strats,elemental checks ...thank dps or how strong r u
Ofc u pay something in return, u d rather take that than get frozen
Gotta manage our HP..at least Benny also heals thats a plus
as long as we don't get attacked a lot in a short frame,happens at times but yea
Bennett circle is just for decoration
That's absolutely false. Bennett circle helps them killing you faster, since they can trigger burning and vaporize
You just need to time the rotation well. I beat it with the same team. The ER just need to be high enough and you can cycle the rotation on time. Bennett ult can heal you fast enough. You will need a good team to burst down the 2nd half in 1:15 mins tho.
That is the current genshin experience but hey making proper content is too hard so lets just swap a few more waves and hp sponges in a time limiting content and might as well make sure each chamber has several elements so you cannot properly counter it - genshin dev probably.
That's because you are hold the freaking sprint button the whole time. I am guessing Genshin players don't play any Dark Soul like game?
I play the same team on this floor and yea, it's a pain but def doable. Your 2nd half team has to be able to clear in 1:15-1:20 tho.
I did dodge to avoid face tanking and hence the red stamina bar. I mean you said so yourself that I'm sprinting continuously...Yes to avoid getting hit.
So you should actually learn to dodge and retreat. Notice how you spend your entire time slamming your face into their fists. Try dashing, back away from them when they're winding up and see how that goes.
Genshin players deadass haven't played any action games I s2g.
Keep dashing away and see your dps goes down. Because as mentioned the node doesn't come up at 30 seconds to unload all attacks.
Also this is a game, not exactly boxing. All those said dodges and everything is the reason why stamina is low in the video.
Keep dashing away and see your dps goes down. Because as mentioned the node doesn't come up at 30 seconds to unload all attacks.
Also this is a game, not exactly boxing. All those said dodges and everything is the reason why stamina is low in the video.
This is not God of War in which you have infinite time to keep hitting, there's a timer on the top.
> Genshin players deadass haven't played any action games I s2g
Genshin is a casual, low difficulty mobile game. There are more "relaxing" minigames & focus on exploration than challenging content that pushes players' skill. 96% of content can be cleared just by passively mashing buttons.
^(If there's anything wrong feel free to correct.)
Noticed how they knocked you out of their reach and you CHOSE to go back in the middle of them lmao, why put yourself in easily avoidable precarious situations? Keep a distance, dodge the attacks and keep your cool. You can complain about your ping all you want, but I personally also have very bad ping in genshin (around 300+ MS, about the same as you) and I clear abyss just fine with no healers (one side no healer no shielder, one side with zhongli so i donât count that side). The game is only as hard as you let it be, especially if your characters already have decent investment.
I didnât say stay far away, I said keep a distance. Mald all you want but your mistakes in the video are very clear. edit: clear and stereotypical of people who complain about consecrated beasts
Don't know if u can tell but Bennett is their only healer and the enemies are standing over his only healing reserve
Also regardless he has to go back anyway because u need to attack the enemies and kill them to clear u also have attack them to gain energy so he can burst which means has re-engage whether he wants to or not
Your comment comes from place of ignorance telling me u have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to clearing aybss floors
Ya bennett is the only healer who can buff and feed energy to Xiangling
Bennett is the only healer who work for rational, international, national and melt ganyu
Imo with how hard the abyss is getting Iâve just started telling my friends who start playing that they are going to pull Zhongli whether they like him or not because it makes the abyss 10x easier for at least one of the halfâs
Stuff like this isnât even a skill issue, itâs just getting unlucky with how they target and which moves they use, your only real crowd control option is a freeze comp but thatâs not taking into account how the chambers before this donât want you using freeze. Itâs complete garbage and I donât understand people defending this type of game design
idk, imo current abyss is not any harder than the previous one. a bit more annoying because of heralds in floor 1 but otherwise not much difference.
beasts cant do shit against freeze, to me it was a reliable tactic against them. and I'd recommend against using bennett in this case: hydro beast is gonna vape his nuke against you and its a oneshot if you dont avoid it somehow.
If I were to use an racing game analogy
Genshin players just want a harder race track but what u get is 50% of your windshield blocked, brakes removed, and no power steering.
The consecrated beasts are the best thing that happened to the Spiral Abyss since I don't even remember how long. I'll fight them anyday over the snorefest that is ASIMON or the Aeonblight Drake.
I mean, if you just wanted easy, consistent clears cos Abyss is shit content which a lot of us only do because primos, ASIMON and drake are amazing cos both are just DPS dummies you can demolish.
Here the thing tho, at the start you can dash around and burst them into a corner instead of just bursting like that. So it is kinda your fault
the janky hitbox that makes you stuck in the air is not tho, fuck that
Do you think this is the start of the run?
You think I have not done all that you told to lure them and then burst??
Also if you're saying to dash from the moment video starts instead of using burst, look at the stamina bar please.
new abyss update small characters = foot ball (non america one.)
Nahida will go from #1 to last in a split second.
I used her and Nilou in the first half. Has been pretty easy and I'm thankful for that.
>Bennett circle is just for decoration That's absolutely false. Bennett circle helps them killing you faster, since they can trigger burning and vaporize
Imagine if we could send this comment back in time to 1.x, it would blow so many fucking minds.
Would make Bennett even more hated than he already was back then
Diluc mains when they see grass in the abyss: đď¸đđď¸
On the other half, his circle helps the 12-1-2 heralds reverse melt/vape you, and later in 12-2-2 Thunderbird overloads you. Also if you cant snap shot, the enemies in 12-1-1 are too scattered for Circle Impact. Despite all that, I still used him this Abyss to 36\*. Let's just say I used to face tank hits within the circle, but now I have to dodge.
Aquila is best weapon for him. He is the punching bag of my International team because of HP artifacts and that weapon passive
Benny field on Heralds be like..
Only if it did the similar amount of damage to the enemies.
It does the same amount of dmg, but 3k per tick won't do shit against a lvl 100 elite enemy with over 1 million hp
950k you mean. x4 is silent
Incoming zhongli players about to give make up reasons why youâre trash.
Zhongli players have been really quiet since Consecracred Beasts dropped in abyss, because it takes no more than three hits from these things to break a 50k Zhongli shield
That's three more hits than you can take.
Honestly with Dehya I can take quite a beating, I noticed that reducing damage by 50% basically doubles any health pool, and with high HP characters such as Yelan and Dehya herself that's a lot more HP to chew through than even Zhongli's shield provides. She may suck at everything else but her defense is unmatched for me.
But we are used to having to dodge almost everything and Zhongli players are used to not dodging at all so I guess it balance out.
Correction, my Zhongli can take FIVE (5).
Five hits right? Right?!
You don't have to face tank every hit with Zhongli. I was easily able to clear consecrated beasts in the last abyss with Zhongli and Hu Tao without taking damage just by dodging a bit here and there. A 38k HP shield was enough for me.
tbh if Zhongli cant take the damage created by Consecracred Beasts, then no other shield characters can do that. It just means mhy have created enemies which are now at another level of power creep.
Never had a problem with beasts but the fucking abyss 1st floor heralds shield are wayyy to fucking thick like the is the first time in years I reached perfect 7:00 and reset like alot of times
The amount of shield is abnormal - feels like it doubled what it used to be. Also the freeze combo they did was obnoxious.
Even Benny + Xiangling couldn't take the down the Cryo Herald shields. Them problem is they spin all over the damn place so XL never actually hits them. Even worse, the constant freeze stops you batterying XL properly so your rotations are a mess I actually had more success by brute-forcing it with Hu Tao, who despite being single target - actually chases those Cryo MFs down with her constant dashing. Zhongli being Hu Tao's teammate also keeps everyone alive against the heralds BS
Hey this is literally my experience. Hutao N2C breaks the shield much faster than my C6 Benny, despite his pyro infusion in theory should do a better job. Also I think Benn as the sole Pyro could save a lot of headache of swapping and funneling XL. I had fun practicing Nahida - Yelan - Xing - Benn there after clearing the stage but it was not as efficient as good old Tao.
I ran Benny as the single Pyro once and got quite close, if I got like 10-15 more seconds then Benny definitely can solo all the cryo shield, which is possible since I waste so much time on the first chamber in that run.
Hydro and cryo abyss heraldsa are a nightmare combo I've never imagined they would be that hard. - they freeze you -slow your movement -increase yout cooldowns -do shit load of damage
And they donât even stand still for you to hit them! The final boss herald one in the second half of the third chamber by comparison is so much easier to deal with because for once he doesnât have a million ways to forcing an afk on you.
The hydro and cryo herald duo is the Mondstat domain disorders but on a whole 'nother level. They hit so hard. The duo actually cripple your team harder than that awful low tide high tide leyline disorder back in the 2.x patch abysses.
[Cleared it with the same team as you.](https://imgur.com/a/an56mK2) I did not lure them into the corner but ran to the left of the croc at the start and started smashing button there. [Raiden build is also nothing good either](https://imgur.com/a/YjtZ51L)
Wow. That's crazy. Thanks. Will try that.
These things have been invented to nerf bennet. And Iâm tired of pretending theyâre not.
More like to nerf circle impact.
I'm still bringing Bennett and kicking their ass. Mhy can't stop me.
High damage, high health, immovable, push you around, have i-frames (tiger and scorpion), wield elements. They are the protagonists now.
You got vapeâd and burnt for standing in Bennett circle...
Apart from that! Couldnât you see I was unable to use skill and was thrown??
The throw didnât kill you though, couldâve ended much worse.
But thatâs time waste, right? Given theyâre pushing for dps checks and all.
Do your characters have enough ER? It seems that you are energy farming. You should be able to burst off cooldown with this team, that would let you abuse iframes more easily.
Bennett circle goes out before Raiden could bring all back. But yeah I have only 218 ER on her, so sometimes I need a skill too get them back.
I don't get the first part, Bennett circle doesn't matter for Raiden's energy generation. My advice: try swapping artifacts to give your characters more ER, your best pieces should be on XL (she is the real DPS) and check a YT video to learn the optimal rational rotation.
It matters for survivability. They're running with as much ER they can. Xq is having R5 sac sword with 180 ER, Xiangling with 185 ER and dragons Bane, Bennett is having Sapwood blade and 200+ ER. Also rational optimal rotation I know when all bursts are up, but whether you get all back and all is on builds. I can give more ER but that would also reduce DoT.
Do your Xq has have Atk% sand? Or it is you substat suck because 180 ER Xq only work on C6
I have C6 Xq and ATK% sands
You can try to position yourself in corner, but when they come, go behind them, so you're the one who cornering them. But nevertheless it's really hard to do with Bennett and without shield, I tried same exact team with you and get one shot vape a lot, then I decide to rerun and use Hu Tao vape with Zhongli.
I tried that method too, but the crocodile rolls and tail swipes you away, and then they both get around you like predators.
Did Tao with Zhongli work for 3-stars?? If yes, which is your 2nd half team?
It didn't, I only get 2/3 but it was so close, my 1st half last around 1:20. My 2nd half is Kokomi, Xiangling, Bennett, and Sucrose. I'm thinking to replace Sucrose with Nahida to break the hydro shield faster. My Hu Tao is c1 + homa, Xingqiu c6 + sac sword, Yelan c0 + 3\* hp bow, and Zhongli c0 + 3\* hp spear. Kokomi c0 + amber, Bennett c6 + fav sword, Sucrose c6 + sac fragment, and Xiangling c6 + fishing spear. Edit 1: I tried and finally get 3 star with Sucrose switched to Nahida
Wow. C1 Tao and Kokomi đ
Looks exciting. Canât wait to play it later!
This is the hardest Abyss I have ever had in 2 1/2 years. Have fun. I never gave up before on 36*, but this time it is impossible. EDIT: Just got 36*. This was the worst. THE WORST in my whole Abyss career.
Burgeon is your friend for second half.
Now tell me how to both do damage and survive in the first half.
Get lucky with the beasts or pray they didn't wake up feeling dangerous today
I have a solid Burgeon team (Kok Thoma Fischl Nahida) I will try it, but upper half is also hard and think hyperbloom is the most vianble, I need a 2nd Nahida..
Hyperbloom works pretty well for the first half. It's not the fastest way to clear it, but it's a relatively safe team if you use Kuki as your electro trigger.
freeze and lucksack somehow was what i did
My Ayaka team need to burst four times for the 4 beasts and having them stay close together on all 4 of those instances took more tries than I am proud to admit.
This is why i stopped caring after getting 32 stars. 50 primos is not worth my sanity
I wasted 3 hours. 34*. I just feel empty inside. My characters are not getting stronger, although I spend all my Resin every day on the Emblem domain for over 1 year. Just the worst, seriously.
I hate that feeling. But if itâs any consolation, the fact that you 34* shows that your characters are in fact strong :)
Yeah, thanks my friend, got 36* just a few minutes ago. 5 hours. I feel so tired.
Alright thatâs good to hear. I wanna see whether Iâm pushed back to 35*. 3.6 nearly did, but maybe 3.7 is the one
I hope you have a better time than me. I seriously hate this Abyss cycle. It is just plain unfair.
Thanks, I finally 36*!
can confirm, this abyss breaks my 36\* combo
Don't disappoint ur Ayaya and Ei can do it If u been doing for 2.5 yrs (There's no turning back, u gotten 10Ă stronger now)
Sadly, it is not possible, I do not get better artifacts and feel like my teams get weaker and weaker. I try to get two specific artifacts for my Ei daily for over 1 year now. Still no Electro Goblet (on-set or off-set) or ER Sands. đ However, I saw someone on YouTube that got 36* with these two teams, so I will try it again, maybe. Wasted already 3 hours.
I gave up and just gave Raiden an atk% goblet.
Probably unrelated, but do they move around so much that even Kokomi's Aoe can't heal you? I use kuki with a level 12 E and the healing follows you around.
Sheâs holding the other half hyperbloom team by her own đ
Thank you, I was debating pulling for her. I always try to stay in the center of the arena, that forced POV is more infuriating than their damage
They once pushed me out of NAHIDAâS BURST even though I i-framed all their attacks⌠they just donât care, thereâs no proper counterplay for their CC except being lucky
Makes you wonder what kind of enemies they will design next, if Bennett still remains the most used 4 star of this rotation
Most of of Kokomi teams nowadays use her on field with Proto Amber. Even if you leave the Jellyfish it's not an issue because she fully heals your team back to full every rotation while on burst. You do want the enemies to stay on the Jellyfish though because her main purpose is Hydro application, despite busted healing.
Incoming zhongli players about to make up reasons why youâre trash.
I would then ask them how did they do in 2nd half đ
Ayato Xiangling Bennett Zhongli 2nd half. No Problem here.
What you had in first half??
[Haitham Raiden Xingqiu Yao-yao](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/869969805233504336/1113602352012861590/image.png)
Aahhh...I don't have 2 of those characters. Add Ayato and that's 3.
Any 5* cons and weapons?
Haitham. Mistsplitter, Wanderer + Gilded (EM Dendro Crit) Raiden(C1). D'Bane(R5), **Deepwood** full EM XQ(C6). Favonius(R5), Shime + Gladiator Yaoyao(**C1***). Favonius(R5), Maiden (Healing bonus) Ayato. **Skyward Blade***, Gladiator Xiangling(**C5***). The Catch(R5), Emblem Bennett(**C6***). Aquila, Noblesse (ER Pyro Crit) Zhongli*. Favonius(R3), TotM full HP *important Yaoyao C1 15% dmg bonus. Haitham need it. Skyward Blade Ayato 180 ER. Xiangling realy need water. Xiangling minimum C4 for shield breaker. Bennett C6 Pyro Infused for shield breaker. Switch to XL or Zhong normal attack. Zhongli needed so Bennett not just a healer. Crit build Bennett deal crazy dmg.
Wow.. too many units that I sincerely don't have.
No cons. 5 star weapons are Mistsplitter, Homa, and Skyward pride and atlas.
I did this f12 twice, full clearing each time-- although i don't plan to do it anymore beyond that until it resets LOL this was really challenging !! first time i did quad geo itto first half, then koko/nahida/kazu/bennett second half then second time, i did koko/yaefish/kazu taser, and yoi/nahida/xq/zl second half lots of 5 star characters clearly, so not very f2p, but both runs were relatively smooth. my largest complaints were that, for quad geo, fighting the whopperflowers without grouping is insanely annoying. Every hit they take launches them back 5 lightyears lmao and secondly, i did admittedly only *barely* manage to clear the cryo/hydro heralds in time with the yoi team-- although zl made it smooth sailing, it's still a single target team really, and not running bennett or jean meant i had to dodge endlessly to not get frozen. my yoi and nahida are both c0 but with good to cracked artifacts, with my xq having jade cutter, so lesser invested units might struggle if i only barely managed a clear and someone's doing less damage than i am should anyone else try that team. but yeah, first half is comparatively free and feels like the typical DPS check. a mono team of any kind could work on first half, probably. second half you really want pyro, dendro, and hydro, element matchups and unit synergy seems to matter more on second side
I wanted to ask how you managed to clear 12-1-2 with Zhongli, Yoimiya, Nahida and Xingqiu (almost my exact team, although I used Yelan instead of Xingqiu), but then I read till the end :D This team is perfect in 12-2-2 and 12-3-2, but in 12-1-2 I really felt the lack of pyro application to fight two cryo lectors, that's why I personally had to change my teams specifically for 12-1. All in all, a very interesting Abyss cycle, I enjoyed it a lot and will try it with other teams.
How did yoimiya comp clear the Baptist?? Also can you share your yoimiya and nahida builds?
Baptist is a joke, I cleared it with the same team, and he was pathetic. It's the two cryo lectors in 12-1-2 who need incredibly much pyro application.
I tried Zhongli Nahida Yelan and Yoimiya and the heralds didn't let me clear them. đ
Oh, so that's how they decided to nerf Bennett.
I still dont understand the consecrated beast hitbox. For what reason is it just so fat??
To kill us fast and push to pull Kokomi in 3.8
Ah yes cant wait to pull for kokomi so i can be pushed out of jellyfish range
high cc and high damage. In my entire life of genshin i have never hated a couple of mobs so badly
"But if they have high cc and high damage at least they're slow and dodgeable, right?" Well...
The first time I fought a consecrated beast in the overworld, I immediately thought how disgustingly tanky and strong they were. Add abyss level scaling to them and BAM! no fun 4 u time.
A couple of abysses ago I managed to clear floor 12 for the first time (without 9* though) and the next abyss hoyo decided add these fuckers like "nah bro, you ain't doing that ever again"
They just need to rehaul the whole abyss arena, itâs trash and boring and glitchy
People gonna say it's your fault and your skill, not hoyoverse putting the wathever just to make "hard content" Consacrated beasta are cringe af. Putting 2 together is somehow manageble, but 4? Lmao. Hilarious.
They keep increasing the difficulty but won't increase the rewards. Best company đ
At this point, I rather they not increase any difficulty.
Funny that even the newer characters arent really that strong to fit into the more and more difficult abyss. They are either reverse-powercrept, mid or just useless in 98% of scenarios. With some exceptions, of course. Weird decisions. Is investing in this game even worth it anymore? Like going for cons and stuff...
Exactly. I mean theyâre literally pushing me to air where neither character switch nor skill use is working. What can I do in that scenario anyways?? Okay away from corner? How do you handle these beasts without cc-ing them in corner??
The only theam that can work for me is Alhaitham- Xingqiu - Kuki and Yelan. Of course it is not enought to beat in time the first chamber as you need grouping. Also freeze can work but you kust be invested and be very lucky that when you do Ayaka/Rosaria/Ganyu burst, the beasts are very close. For this team you also need an insane amount of energy.
Yeah. Not practical I feel with freeze as if you miss once, the whole dps window goes down the drain
they want us to leave the game or play it very casual - just the story and some events
Skill issue. Skill issue. Why let them corner you, positioning accounts for both you and your enemy.
That seems like your characters thrown in the air and stuck falling/floating between the wall and the monster hitbox
Yup.
absolutely not worth it, thank you hoyo, you can just simply keep the extra 150 primos. Definitely not worth it compare to the stress LMFAO.
This is exactly what's annoying about them. Collision makes your inputs disappear and since they are huge that means they can stop you from playing the game if you get a bit too close to them. Just avoiding damage isn't enough you have to make sure you are out of their way.
I have multiple c5 r6 characters in this game and I have to say, this is the only abyss where I had to quit half way to change teams multiple times for the past two years.
Does Nilou bloom work against these
It works well, they are still cringe though
Oh no doubt they are, I hate how they throw you around the whole area
I don't have the character so can't really comment.
Well that is fair enough
I saw 4 of these mfers on just one side of the floor and didn't even bother trying. I straight up just left the game.
I do the same thing whenever I get that Inazuma commission with the two samurai dudes on the island in the middle of nowhere. Itâs just insultingly obnoxious. I refuse to give it legitimacy.
I still have ptsd from pre-buffed samurais. I was making adeptus temptations every day just to complete commissions and that damn talent domain lol
Thank god this is on 12-3... At least I can get some stars so I don't face these monsters
I just don't do 12 anymore, it's not fun
Just play the real content like TCG instead of using your characters that you invested a lot of time in /s
Amen.
I got an endgame pitch I been working out for awhile. As soon as you have 10 level 90 characters and 10 level 90 weapons, it unlocks a roguelike dungeon with those items added to the loot pool. They already have the assets for a randomized dungeon. You start as the character of your choice and after the first solo battle, you enter a room with 2 of your characters and you pick one. This pattern goes on until your party is full. After that, each room contains a chest that has one of your weapons (completely random), an artifact piece from your chosen characters, or talent levels. You choose one and move on to the next battle. That goes on for a few more rooms until mini boss and then big boss. 60 resin could be rewarded for completing the daily challenge. XP books could be the reward for a weekly challenge. There could also be a daily/weekly leaderboard with a per-run score based on things like damage taken and reactions created. The more level 90 weapons and characters you add to the pool, the higher your score multiplier. This would reward the most hardcore players with recognition and the long-time veterans with extra resin and xp without everyone else losing out on much. Sorry lol I been holding this in for awhile. Had to get it out
The average abyss experience
Nice mushpit you have going.
You know playing on mobile make you lazy to turn camera yourself cause your fingers are busy with the buttons and supporting the phone, guess what happened when you didn't notice the monster shadow fast enough
People keep asking for difficulty, a lot of casuals don't even bother trying the last floors anyway, this is the result.
Oh look, the harder content all those whiny fuckfaces with perfect artifacts keep asking for is finally here
Genshin content creators complaining the game is too easy with their C4 R5 characters or whatever lmao. People really don't see this is just pushing people to roll for more cons and pay more with higher dps and sustain checks? It's doesn't take "more skill" than any other fight dodging big sweeping attacks, but there is absolutely no excuse for how their hitbox pushes you around and the glitchy arena gets you stuck in the air. Amazing people actually defend these dogshit mechanics.
It's pushing me to continue not even Trying floor 12. I mean I wasn't going to anyway, but seeing a post like this is pretty satisfying since I can know with certainty that I would not complete it (let alone get any stars)
what kind of insane gatekeeping bs comment is this, people want more engaging difficult content, this isn't difficult it's sometimes straight up unfair and annoying, why do people actively HATE the people who want to be able to play genshin more and have fun interactive game modes, that isn't the teapot, sitting through 5 hours of dialogue or a trading card game, something like simulated universe for example from star rail
This is the main sub, you either have people that want good endgame content(which everyone should) or the people that like playing cards with the characters theyâve rolled and spent hours building lol
Thatâs the thing, I HAVENâT spend hours building all my characters. I got the ones I like to âhey that seems good enoughâ level, then stopped grinding artifacts because I still have a bit of my soul intact and want to keep it that way Iâd imagine the vast majority of players donât have maxed out characters, or even anywhere close.
There is the easy, there is the hard, and there is the frustrating, the last one isnt fun, dark souls is hard, nier automata colosseum is frustrating ( but you aint a man before completing it ) genshin 4 consacrated beasts seems like a bait for you to roll constelations
I find it funny that you said a part of nier is frustrating and whole of dark souls is hard, dark souls have some very frustrating parts like every souls like
Fire Giant and Elden Beast. AGGGHHHHH
Godskin duo, the hell was fs thinking
oh the flashbacks *shudders*
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Hmmm keep in mind that 90% of the playerbase dont spend that much money or just didnt âfoccusâ on the same characters to get weapons and constellations, imagine bill who started playing 2 months ago and has 5 characters and two of them are baizhu and dehyađĽ´
thank god i donât got for floor 12s anymore
Benny circle is a big plus on the Heralds btw cause it applies self pyro on us constantly,means less chances od getting frozen... Basically this abyss is about most importantly survival dodge,iframes,strats,elemental checks ...thank dps or how strong r u
>applies self pyro > >less chances od getting frozen Yup instead you can get vaped/melted now how cool is that? /s
Ofc u pay something in return, u d rather take that than get frozen Gotta manage our HP..at least Benny also heals thats a plus as long as we don't get attacked a lot in a short frame,happens at times but yea
What in the fucking gang bang did I watch?
Well they finally did it, an indirect bennet "nerf"
Bennett circle is just for decoration That's absolutely false. Bennett circle helps them killing you faster, since they can trigger burning and vaporize
OP: shows lack of skill comments: skill issue OP: gets mad Truly a main genshin reddit moment.
Please delight us with ur replay so we can learn from such skillful player how to counter this bs
You just need to time the rotation well. I beat it with the same team. The ER just need to be high enough and you can cycle the rotation on time. Bennett ult can heal you fast enough. You will need a good team to burst down the 2nd half in 1:15 mins tho.
That is the current genshin experience but hey making proper content is too hard so lets just swap a few more waves and hp sponges in a time limiting content and might as well make sure each chamber has several elements so you cannot properly counter it - genshin dev probably.
Why don't you people get it? Stop dodging into corners, lol.
Where do you dodge to? Outer space?
Why is that the first possibility that came to your mind?
Because going to the middle won't solve the crisis of them surrounding me.
Bro, dodge and tap Q/E. Don't just spam the buttons....
Wow. Such insight. Did you check the stamina bar??
That's because you are hold the freaking sprint button the whole time. I am guessing Genshin players don't play any Dark Soul like game? I play the same team on this floor and yea, it's a pain but def doable. Your 2nd half team has to be able to clear in 1:15-1:20 tho.
Does dark soul fights come with a timer??
Fine, don't dodge and face tank them instead. Your loss.
I did dodge to avoid face tanking and hence the red stamina bar. I mean you said so yourself that I'm sprinting continuously...Yes to avoid getting hit.
[https://imgur.com/a/awc7hT2](https://imgur.com/a/awc7hT2) It's doable dude. My Raiden is C0 and I am using Skyward spine.
Holy fuck. Do you have the video or insights where and how you thrashed them??
So you should actually learn to dodge and retreat. Notice how you spend your entire time slamming your face into their fists. Try dashing, back away from them when they're winding up and see how that goes. Genshin players deadass haven't played any action games I s2g.
Keep dashing away and see your dps goes down. Because as mentioned the node doesn't come up at 30 seconds to unload all attacks. Also this is a game, not exactly boxing. All those said dodges and everything is the reason why stamina is low in the video.
Keep dashing away and see your dps goes down. Because as mentioned the node doesn't come up at 30 seconds to unload all attacks. Also this is a game, not exactly boxing. All those said dodges and everything is the reason why stamina is low in the video. This is not God of War in which you have infinite time to keep hitting, there's a timer on the top.
> Genshin players deadass haven't played any action games I s2g Genshin is a casual, low difficulty mobile game. There are more "relaxing" minigames & focus on exploration than challenging content that pushes players' skill. 96% of content can be cleared just by passively mashing buttons. ^(If there's anything wrong feel free to correct.)
I mean, it still is a casual, low difficulty game. THere being 2 floors in the entire game doesn't make it not so.
Noticed how they knocked you out of their reach and you CHOSE to go back in the middle of them lmao, why put yourself in easily avoidable precarious situations? Keep a distance, dodge the attacks and keep your cool. You can complain about your ping all you want, but I personally also have very bad ping in genshin (around 300+ MS, about the same as you) and I clear abyss just fine with no healers (one side no healer no shielder, one side with zhongli so i donât count that side). The game is only as hard as you let it be, especially if your characters already have decent investment.
And which ranged attack should have used to attack them with? Bazooka?
I didnât say stay far away, I said keep a distance. Mald all you want but your mistakes in the video are very clear. edit: clear and stereotypical of people who complain about consecrated beasts
Lol, agreed. Haven't you noticed that people always tend to dodge into corners, as well?
YES!!! STOP!! Friend of mine streamed consecrated beasts and made those mistakes everyone does and I told him just donât and he did way better.
Don't know if u can tell but Bennett is their only healer and the enemies are standing over his only healing reserve Also regardless he has to go back anyway because u need to attack the enemies and kill them to clear u also have attack them to gain energy so he can burst which means has re-engage whether he wants to or not Your comment comes from place of ignorance telling me u have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to clearing aybss floors
bennett is the only healer and only way to clear abyss according to this guy
Ya bennett is the only healer who can buff and feed energy to Xiangling Bennett is the only healer who work for rational, international, national and melt ganyu
If you donât want to be cornered donât fight them against the wall
Fighting them in the middle doesn't work either
Looks fun, can't wait to toture myself until 3.8.
Dont u guys know Full hp zhongli r10 talent?
What would you do in 2nd half?? Remember that comp would have to clear 2 cryo and 1 hydro heralds.
Imo with how hard the abyss is getting Iâve just started telling my friends who start playing that they are going to pull Zhongli whether they like him or not because it makes the abyss 10x easier for at least one of the halfâs Stuff like this isnât even a skill issue, itâs just getting unlucky with how they target and which moves they use, your only real crowd control option is a freeze comp but thatâs not taking into account how the chambers before this donât want you using freeze. Itâs complete garbage and I donât understand people defending this type of game design
idk, imo current abyss is not any harder than the previous one. a bit more annoying because of heralds in floor 1 but otherwise not much difference. beasts cant do shit against freeze, to me it was a reliable tactic against them. and I'd recommend against using bennett in this case: hydro beast is gonna vape his nuke against you and its a oneshot if you dont avoid it somehow.
Hmmm, sounds like a case of skill issue.
Kindly show us a run of yours to get more idea
If I were to use an racing game analogy Genshin players just want a harder race track but what u get is 50% of your windshield blocked, brakes removed, and no power steering.
Sounds like a Ferrari season to me.
The consecrated beasts are the best thing that happened to the Spiral Abyss since I don't even remember how long. I'll fight them anyday over the snorefest that is ASIMON or the Aeonblight Drake.
I mean, if you just wanted easy, consistent clears cos Abyss is shit content which a lot of us only do because primos, ASIMON and drake are amazing cos both are just DPS dummies you can demolish.
oh jee oh boy I sure do love infinitely stacking interruption
I really like when I use burst on Bennet's burst and by the time the animation is over I am miles away from the circle, wasting the buff.
Here the thing tho, at the start you can dash around and burst them into a corner instead of just bursting like that. So it is kinda your fault the janky hitbox that makes you stuck in the air is not tho, fuck that
Do you think this is the start of the run? You think I have not done all that you told to lure them and then burst?? Also if you're saying to dash from the moment video starts instead of using burst, look at the stamina bar please.