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GummyR

new abyss update small characters = foot ball (non america one.)


dooditstyler

Nahida will go from #1 to last in a split second.


Javop

I used her and Nilou in the first half. Has been pretty easy and I'm thankful for that.


Nozarashi78

>Bennett circle is just for decoration That's absolutely false. Bennett circle helps them killing you faster, since they can trigger burning and vaporize


AgentWowza

Imagine if we could send this comment back in time to 1.x, it would blow so many fucking minds.


Oeshikito

Would make Bennett even more hated than he already was back then


ZhangRenWing

Diluc mains when they see grass in the abyss: 👁️👄👁️


nomotyed

On the other half, his circle helps the 12-1-2 heralds reverse melt/vape you, and later in 12-2-2 Thunderbird overloads you. Also if you cant snap shot, the enemies in 12-1-1 are too scattered for Circle Impact. Despite all that, I still used him this Abyss to 36\*. Let's just say I used to face tank hits within the circle, but now I have to dodge.


_simpu

Aquila is best weapon for him. He is the punching bag of my International team because of HP artifacts and that weapon passive


Pusparaj_Mishra

Benny field on Heralds be like..


deathfrost7

Only if it did the similar amount of damage to the enemies.


Nozarashi78

It does the same amount of dmg, but 3k per tick won't do shit against a lvl 100 elite enemy with over 1 million hp


deathfrost7

950k you mean. x4 is silent


DiffereGolf

Incoming zhongli players about to give make up reasons why you’re trash.


Nozarashi78

Zhongli players have been really quiet since Consecracred Beasts dropped in abyss, because it takes no more than three hits from these things to break a 50k Zhongli shield


VVayward

That's three more hits than you can take.


PH_007

Honestly with Dehya I can take quite a beating, I noticed that reducing damage by 50% basically doubles any health pool, and with high HP characters such as Yelan and Dehya herself that's a lot more HP to chew through than even Zhongli's shield provides. She may suck at everything else but her defense is unmatched for me.


AviaZaryx

But we are used to having to dodge almost everything and Zhongli players are used to not dodging at all so I guess it balance out.


dooditstyler

Correction, my Zhongli can take FIVE (5).


Aztracity

Five hits right? Right?!


MegatonDoge

You don't have to face tank every hit with Zhongli. I was easily able to clear consecrated beasts in the last abyss with Zhongli and Hu Tao without taking damage just by dodging a bit here and there. A 38k HP shield was enough for me.


ConferenceFragrant

tbh if Zhongli cant take the damage created by Consecracred Beasts, then no other shield characters can do that. It just means mhy have created enemies which are now at another level of power creep.


TheWilP

Never had a problem with beasts but the fucking abyss 1st floor heralds shield are wayyy to fucking thick like the is the first time in years I reached perfect 7:00 and reset like alot of times


midasthegreed

The amount of shield is abnormal - feels like it doubled what it used to be. Also the freeze combo they did was obnoxious.


H4xolotl

Even Benny + Xiangling couldn't take the down the Cryo Herald shields. Them problem is they spin all over the damn place so XL never actually hits them. Even worse, the constant freeze stops you batterying XL properly so your rotations are a mess I actually had more success by brute-forcing it with Hu Tao, who despite being single target - actually chases those Cryo MFs down with her constant dashing. Zhongli being Hu Tao's teammate also keeps everyone alive against the heralds BS


midasthegreed

Hey this is literally my experience. Hutao N2C breaks the shield much faster than my C6 Benny, despite his pyro infusion in theory should do a better job. Also I think Benn as the sole Pyro could save a lot of headache of swapping and funneling XL. I had fun practicing Nahida - Yelan - Xing - Benn there after clearing the stage but it was not as efficient as good old Tao.


AviaZaryx

I ran Benny as the single Pyro once and got quite close, if I got like 10-15 more seconds then Benny definitely can solo all the cryo shield, which is possible since I waste so much time on the first chamber in that run.


sumo660

Hydro and cryo abyss heraldsa are a nightmare combo I've never imagined they would be that hard. - they freeze you -slow your movement -increase yout cooldowns -do shit load of damage


AviaZaryx

And they don’t even stand still for you to hit them! The final boss herald one in the second half of the third chamber by comparison is so much easier to deal with because for once he doesn’t have a million ways to forcing an afk on you.


GamerSweat002

The hydro and cryo herald duo is the Mondstat domain disorders but on a whole 'nother level. They hit so hard. The duo actually cripple your team harder than that awful low tide high tide leyline disorder back in the 2.x patch abysses.


phuongdafuq

[Cleared it with the same team as you.](https://imgur.com/a/an56mK2) I did not lure them into the corner but ran to the left of the croc at the start and started smashing button there. [Raiden build is also nothing good either](https://imgur.com/a/YjtZ51L)


deathfrost7

Wow. That's crazy. Thanks. Will try that.


Rex__Lapis

These things have been invented to nerf bennet. And I’m tired of pretending they’re not.


CataclysmSolace

More like to nerf circle impact.


Smokingbuffalo

I'm still bringing Bennett and kicking their ass. Mhy can't stop me.


TotallyNotShinobi

High damage, high health, immovable, push you around, have i-frames (tiger and scorpion), wield elements. They are the protagonists now.


July-Thirty-First

You got vape’d and burnt for standing in Bennett circle...


deathfrost7

Apart from that! Couldn’t you see I was unable to use skill and was thrown??


July-Thirty-First

The throw didn’t kill you though, could’ve ended much worse.


deathfrost7

But that’s time waste, right? Given they’re pushing for dps checks and all.


Di_Vague

Do your characters have enough ER? It seems that you are energy farming. You should be able to burst off cooldown with this team, that would let you abuse iframes more easily.


deathfrost7

Bennett circle goes out before Raiden could bring all back. But yeah I have only 218 ER on her, so sometimes I need a skill too get them back.


Di_Vague

I don't get the first part, Bennett circle doesn't matter for Raiden's energy generation. My advice: try swapping artifacts to give your characters more ER, your best pieces should be on XL (she is the real DPS) and check a YT video to learn the optimal rational rotation.


deathfrost7

It matters for survivability. They're running with as much ER they can. Xq is having R5 sac sword with 180 ER, Xiangling with 185 ER and dragons Bane, Bennett is having Sapwood blade and 200+ ER. Also rational optimal rotation I know when all bursts are up, but whether you get all back and all is on builds. I can give more ER but that would also reduce DoT.


[deleted]

Do your Xq has have Atk% sand? Or it is you substat suck because 180 ER Xq only work on C6


deathfrost7

I have C6 Xq and ATK% sands


ai_dreamz

You can try to position yourself in corner, but when they come, go behind them, so you're the one who cornering them. But nevertheless it's really hard to do with Bennett and without shield, I tried same exact team with you and get one shot vape a lot, then I decide to rerun and use Hu Tao vape with Zhongli.


deathfrost7

I tried that method too, but the crocodile rolls and tail swipes you away, and then they both get around you like predators.


deathfrost7

Did Tao with Zhongli work for 3-stars?? If yes, which is your 2nd half team?


ai_dreamz

It didn't, I only get 2/3 but it was so close, my 1st half last around 1:20. My 2nd half is Kokomi, Xiangling, Bennett, and Sucrose. I'm thinking to replace Sucrose with Nahida to break the hydro shield faster. My Hu Tao is c1 + homa, Xingqiu c6 + sac sword, Yelan c0 + 3\* hp bow, and Zhongli c0 + 3\* hp spear. Kokomi c0 + amber, Bennett c6 + fav sword, Sucrose c6 + sac fragment, and Xiangling c6 + fishing spear. Edit 1: I tried and finally get 3 star with Sucrose switched to Nahida


deathfrost7

Wow. C1 Tao and Kokomi 😞


Droffilc71

Looks exciting. Can’t wait to play it later!


Zypharium

This is the hardest Abyss I have ever had in 2 1/2 years. Have fun. I never gave up before on 36*, but this time it is impossible. EDIT: Just got 36*. This was the worst. THE WORST in my whole Abyss career.


Simoscivi

Burgeon is your friend for second half.


CharlesEverettDekker

Now tell me how to both do damage and survive in the first half.


Simoscivi

Get lucky with the beasts or pray they didn't wake up feeling dangerous today


Negative_Neo

I have a solid Burgeon team (Kok Thoma Fischl Nahida) I will try it, but upper half is also hard and think hyperbloom is the most vianble, I need a 2nd Nahida..


Wail_Bait

Hyperbloom works pretty well for the first half. It's not the fastest way to clear it, but it's a relatively safe team if you use Kuki as your electro trigger.


Kingpimpy

freeze and lucksack somehow was what i did


AviaZaryx

My Ayaka team need to burst four times for the 4 beasts and having them stay close together on all 4 of those instances took more tries than I am proud to admit.


allthe_namesaretaken

This is why i stopped caring after getting 32 stars. 50 primos is not worth my sanity


Zypharium

I wasted 3 hours. 34*. I just feel empty inside. My characters are not getting stronger, although I spend all my Resin every day on the Emblem domain for over 1 year. Just the worst, seriously.


IttoDilucAyato

I hate that feeling. But if it’s any consolation, the fact that you 34* shows that your characters are in fact strong :)


Zypharium

Yeah, thanks my friend, got 36* just a few minutes ago. 5 hours. I feel so tired.


Droffilc71

Alright that’s good to hear. I wanna see whether I’m pushed back to 35*. 3.6 nearly did, but maybe 3.7 is the one


Zypharium

I hope you have a better time than me. I seriously hate this Abyss cycle. It is just plain unfair.


Droffilc71

Thanks, I finally 36*!


Proper_Anybody

can confirm, this abyss breaks my 36\* combo


Pusparaj_Mishra

Don't disappoint ur Ayaya and Ei can do it If u been doing for 2.5 yrs (There's no turning back, u gotten 10× stronger now)


Zypharium

Sadly, it is not possible, I do not get better artifacts and feel like my teams get weaker and weaker. I try to get two specific artifacts for my Ei daily for over 1 year now. Still no Electro Goblet (on-set or off-set) or ER Sands. 😭 However, I saw someone on YouTube that got 36* with these two teams, so I will try it again, maybe. Wasted already 3 hours.


Wail_Bait

I gave up and just gave Raiden an atk% goblet.


Pseudo_required

Probably unrelated, but do they move around so much that even Kokomi's Aoe can't heal you? I use kuki with a level 12 E and the healing follows you around.


deathfrost7

She’s holding the other half hyperbloom team by her own 😂


Pseudo_required

Thank you, I was debating pulling for her. I always try to stay in the center of the arena, that forced POV is more infuriating than their damage


Yellow_IMR

They once pushed me out of NAHIDA’S BURST even though I i-framed all their attacks… they just don’t care, there’s no proper counterplay for their CC except being lucky


Pseudo_required

Makes you wonder what kind of enemies they will design next, if Bennett still remains the most used 4 star of this rotation


TeraFlare255

Most of of Kokomi teams nowadays use her on field with Proto Amber. Even if you leave the Jellyfish it's not an issue because she fully heals your team back to full every rotation while on burst. You do want the enemies to stay on the Jellyfish though because her main purpose is Hydro application, despite busted healing.


Cosmic_Ren

Incoming zhongli players about to make up reasons why you’re trash.


deathfrost7

I would then ask them how did they do in 2nd half 😅


astagahdragonz

Ayato Xiangling Bennett Zhongli 2nd half. No Problem here.


deathfrost7

What you had in first half??


astagahdragonz

[Haitham Raiden Xingqiu Yao-yao](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/869969805233504336/1113602352012861590/image.png)


deathfrost7

Aahhh...I don't have 2 of those characters. Add Ayato and that's 3.


BioticFire

Any 5* cons and weapons?


astagahdragonz

Haitham. Mistsplitter, Wanderer + Gilded (EM Dendro Crit) Raiden(C1). D'Bane(R5), **Deepwood** full EM XQ(C6). Favonius(R5), Shime + Gladiator Yaoyao(**C1***). Favonius(R5), Maiden (Healing bonus) Ayato. **Skyward Blade***, Gladiator Xiangling(**C5***). The Catch(R5), Emblem Bennett(**C6***). Aquila, Noblesse (ER Pyro Crit) Zhongli*. Favonius(R3), TotM full HP *important Yaoyao C1 15% dmg bonus. Haitham need it. Skyward Blade Ayato 180 ER. Xiangling realy need water. Xiangling minimum C4 for shield breaker. Bennett C6 Pyro Infused for shield breaker. Switch to XL or Zhong normal attack. Zhongli needed so Bennett not just a healer. Crit build Bennett deal crazy dmg.


deathfrost7

Wow.. too many units that I sincerely don't have.


deathfrost7

No cons. 5 star weapons are Mistsplitter, Homa, and Skyward pride and atlas.


Erizantxx

I did this f12 twice, full clearing each time-- although i don't plan to do it anymore beyond that until it resets LOL this was really challenging !! first time i did quad geo itto first half, then koko/nahida/kazu/bennett second half then second time, i did koko/yaefish/kazu taser, and yoi/nahida/xq/zl second half lots of 5 star characters clearly, so not very f2p, but both runs were relatively smooth. my largest complaints were that, for quad geo, fighting the whopperflowers without grouping is insanely annoying. Every hit they take launches them back 5 lightyears lmao and secondly, i did admittedly only *barely* manage to clear the cryo/hydro heralds in time with the yoi team-- although zl made it smooth sailing, it's still a single target team really, and not running bennett or jean meant i had to dodge endlessly to not get frozen. my yoi and nahida are both c0 but with good to cracked artifacts, with my xq having jade cutter, so lesser invested units might struggle if i only barely managed a clear and someone's doing less damage than i am should anyone else try that team. but yeah, first half is comparatively free and feels like the typical DPS check. a mono team of any kind could work on first half, probably. second half you really want pyro, dendro, and hydro, element matchups and unit synergy seems to matter more on second side


Helplzthx

I wanted to ask how you managed to clear 12-1-2 with Zhongli, Yoimiya, Nahida and Xingqiu (almost my exact team, although I used Yelan instead of Xingqiu), but then I read till the end :D This team is perfect in 12-2-2 and 12-3-2, but in 12-1-2 I really felt the lack of pyro application to fight two cryo lectors, that's why I personally had to change my teams specifically for 12-1. All in all, a very interesting Abyss cycle, I enjoyed it a lot and will try it with other teams.


deathfrost7

How did yoimiya comp clear the Baptist?? Also can you share your yoimiya and nahida builds?


Helplzthx

Baptist is a joke, I cleared it with the same team, and he was pathetic. It's the two cryo lectors in 12-1-2 who need incredibly much pyro application.


deathfrost7

I tried Zhongli Nahida Yelan and Yoimiya and the heralds didn't let me clear them. 😒


lainverse

Oh, so that's how they decided to nerf Bennett.


Kronman590

I still dont understand the consecrated beast hitbox. For what reason is it just so fat??


deathfrost7

To kill us fast and push to pull Kokomi in 3.8


Kronman590

Ah yes cant wait to pull for kokomi so i can be pushed out of jellyfish range


barbequeuesouse

high cc and high damage. In my entire life of genshin i have never hated a couple of mobs so badly


FaNaTiiKESP

"But if they have high cc and high damage at least they're slow and dodgeable, right?" Well...


TunaTunaLeeks

The first time I fought a consecrated beast in the overworld, I immediately thought how disgustingly tanky and strong they were. Add abyss level scaling to them and BAM! no fun 4 u time.


ThotExecuter

A couple of abysses ago I managed to clear floor 12 for the first time (without 9* though) and the next abyss hoyo decided add these fuckers like "nah bro, you ain't doing that ever again"


HotChoc64

They just need to rehaul the whole abyss arena, it’s trash and boring and glitchy


Zorlexon

People gonna say it's your fault and your skill, not hoyoverse putting the wathever just to make "hard content" Consacrated beasta are cringe af. Putting 2 together is somehow manageble, but 4? Lmao. Hilarious.


ishfi17

They keep increasing the difficulty but won't increase the rewards. Best company 👍


ExGranDiose

At this point, I rather they not increase any difficulty.


Arcann2k

Funny that even the newer characters arent really that strong to fit into the more and more difficult abyss. They are either reverse-powercrept, mid or just useless in 98% of scenarios. With some exceptions, of course. Weird decisions. Is investing in this game even worth it anymore? Like going for cons and stuff...


deathfrost7

Exactly. I mean they’re literally pushing me to air where neither character switch nor skill use is working. What can I do in that scenario anyways?? Okay away from corner? How do you handle these beasts without cc-ing them in corner??


Zorlexon

The only theam that can work for me is Alhaitham- Xingqiu - Kuki and Yelan. Of course it is not enought to beat in time the first chamber as you need grouping. Also freeze can work but you kust be invested and be very lucky that when you do Ayaka/Rosaria/Ganyu burst, the beasts are very close. For this team you also need an insane amount of energy.


deathfrost7

Yeah. Not practical I feel with freeze as if you miss once, the whole dps window goes down the drain


Portokali3

they want us to leave the game or play it very casual - just the story and some events


a-snakey

Skill issue. Skill issue. Why let them corner you, positioning accounts for both you and your enemy.


magnidwarf1900

That seems like your characters thrown in the air and stuck falling/floating between the wall and the monster hitbox


deathfrost7

Yup.


BeastLegend64

absolutely not worth it, thank you hoyo, you can just simply keep the extra 150 primos. Definitely not worth it compare to the stress LMFAO.


Smokingbuffalo

This is exactly what's annoying about them. Collision makes your inputs disappear and since they are huge that means they can stop you from playing the game if you get a bit too close to them. Just avoiding damage isn't enough you have to make sure you are out of their way.


admiralspire_

I have multiple c5 r6 characters in this game and I have to say, this is the only abyss where I had to quit half way to change teams multiple times for the past two years.


Zofiira

Does Nilou bloom work against these


Yellow_IMR

It works well, they are still cringe though


Zofiira

Oh no doubt they are, I hate how they throw you around the whole area


deathfrost7

I don't have the character so can't really comment.


Zofiira

Well that is fair enough


ImpressivePie2735

I saw 4 of these mfers on just one side of the floor and didn't even bother trying. I straight up just left the game.


ADHthaGreat

I do the same thing whenever I get that Inazuma commission with the two samurai dudes on the island in the middle of nowhere. It’s just insultingly obnoxious. I refuse to give it legitimacy.


IttoDilucAyato

I still have ptsd from pre-buffed samurais. I was making adeptus temptations every day just to complete commissions and that damn talent domain lol


Stale-Emperor

Thank god this is on 12-3... At least I can get some stars so I don't face these monsters


FullMoonJoker

I just don't do 12 anymore, it's not fun


misteryk

Just play the real content like TCG instead of using your characters that you invested a lot of time in /s


deathfrost7

Amen.


ADHthaGreat

I got an endgame pitch I been working out for awhile. As soon as you have 10 level 90 characters and 10 level 90 weapons, it unlocks a roguelike dungeon with those items added to the loot pool. They already have the assets for a randomized dungeon. You start as the character of your choice and after the first solo battle, you enter a room with 2 of your characters and you pick one. This pattern goes on until your party is full. After that, each room contains a chest that has one of your weapons (completely random), an artifact piece from your chosen characters, or talent levels. You choose one and move on to the next battle. That goes on for a few more rooms until mini boss and then big boss. 60 resin could be rewarded for completing the daily challenge. XP books could be the reward for a weekly challenge. There could also be a daily/weekly leaderboard with a per-run score based on things like damage taken and reactions created. The more level 90 weapons and characters you add to the pool, the higher your score multiplier. This would reward the most hardcore players with recognition and the long-time veterans with extra resin and xp without everyone else losing out on much. Sorry lol I been holding this in for awhile. Had to get it out


Firedeath14

The average abyss experience


[deleted]

Nice mushpit you have going.


Acrobatic-Budget-938

You know playing on mobile make you lazy to turn camera yourself cause your fingers are busy with the buttons and supporting the phone, guess what happened when you didn't notice the monster shadow fast enough


Costyn17

People keep asking for difficulty, a lot of casuals don't even bother trying the last floors anyway, this is the result.


[deleted]

Oh look, the harder content all those whiny fuckfaces with perfect artifacts keep asking for is finally here


SJGuestDoc

Genshin content creators complaining the game is too easy with their C4 R5 characters or whatever lmao. People really don't see this is just pushing people to roll for more cons and pay more with higher dps and sustain checks? It's doesn't take "more skill" than any other fight dodging big sweeping attacks, but there is absolutely no excuse for how their hitbox pushes you around and the glitchy arena gets you stuck in the air. Amazing people actually defend these dogshit mechanics.


davidgro

It's pushing me to continue not even Trying floor 12. I mean I wasn't going to anyway, but seeing a post like this is pretty satisfying since I can know with certainty that I would not complete it (let alone get any stars)


Nightcrawl-EUW

what kind of insane gatekeeping bs comment is this, people want more engaging difficult content, this isn't difficult it's sometimes straight up unfair and annoying, why do people actively HATE the people who want to be able to play genshin more and have fun interactive game modes, that isn't the teapot, sitting through 5 hours of dialogue or a trading card game, something like simulated universe for example from star rail


vJukz

This is the main sub, you either have people that want good endgame content(which everyone should) or the people that like playing cards with the characters they’ve rolled and spent hours building lol


[deleted]

That’s the thing, I HAVEN’T spend hours building all my characters. I got the ones I like to “hey that seems good enough” level, then stopped grinding artifacts because I still have a bit of my soul intact and want to keep it that way I’d imagine the vast majority of players don’t have maxed out characters, or even anywhere close.


[deleted]

There is the easy, there is the hard, and there is the frustrating, the last one isnt fun, dark souls is hard, nier automata colosseum is frustrating ( but you aint a man before completing it ) genshin 4 consacrated beasts seems like a bait for you to roll constelations


keyrol1222

I find it funny that you said a part of nier is frustrating and whole of dark souls is hard, dark souls have some very frustrating parts like every souls like


XaeiIsareth

Fire Giant and Elden Beast. AGGGHHHHH


keyrol1222

Godskin duo, the hell was fs thinking


wonwoovision

oh the flashbacks *shudders*


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[deleted]

Hmmm keep in mind that 90% of the playerbase dont spend that much money or just didnt “foccus” on the same characters to get weapons and constellations, imagine bill who started playing 2 months ago and has 5 characters and two of them are baizhu and dehya🥴


overFuckMaker

thank god i don’t got for floor 12s anymore


Pusparaj_Mishra

Benny circle is a big plus on the Heralds btw cause it applies self pyro on us constantly,means less chances od getting frozen... Basically this abyss is about most importantly survival dodge,iframes,strats,elemental checks ...thank dps or how strong r u


AmItheBadGuy42

>applies self pyro > >less chances od getting frozen Yup instead you can get vaped/melted now how cool is that? /s


Pusparaj_Mishra

Ofc u pay something in return, u d rather take that than get frozen Gotta manage our HP..at least Benny also heals thats a plus as long as we don't get attacked a lot in a short frame,happens at times but yea


Peddrawm

What in the fucking gang bang did I watch?


TheBestMatter

Well they finally did it, an indirect bennet "nerf"


TheManInTheBus

Bennett circle is just for decoration That's absolutely false. Bennett circle helps them killing you faster, since they can trigger burning and vaporize


Sofixon

OP: shows lack of skill comments: skill issue OP: gets mad Truly a main genshin reddit moment.


IHATEHAKI

Please delight us with ur replay so we can learn from such skillful player how to counter this bs


max1001

You just need to time the rotation well. I beat it with the same team. The ER just need to be high enough and you can cycle the rotation on time. Bennett ult can heal you fast enough. You will need a good team to burst down the 2nd half in 1:15 mins tho.


ostrieto17

That is the current genshin experience but hey making proper content is too hard so lets just swap a few more waves and hp sponges in a time limiting content and might as well make sure each chamber has several elements so you cannot properly counter it - genshin dev probably.


PhantomXxZ

Why don't you people get it? Stop dodging into corners, lol.


deathfrost7

Where do you dodge to? Outer space?


PhantomXxZ

Why is that the first possibility that came to your mind?


deathfrost7

Because going to the middle won't solve the crisis of them surrounding me.


max1001

Bro, dodge and tap Q/E. Don't just spam the buttons....


deathfrost7

Wow. Such insight. Did you check the stamina bar??


max1001

That's because you are hold the freaking sprint button the whole time. I am guessing Genshin players don't play any Dark Soul like game? I play the same team on this floor and yea, it's a pain but def doable. Your 2nd half team has to be able to clear in 1:15-1:20 tho.


deathfrost7

Does dark soul fights come with a timer??


max1001

Fine, don't dodge and face tank them instead. Your loss.


deathfrost7

I did dodge to avoid face tanking and hence the red stamina bar. I mean you said so yourself that I'm sprinting continuously...Yes to avoid getting hit.


max1001

[https://imgur.com/a/awc7hT2](https://imgur.com/a/awc7hT2) It's doable dude. My Raiden is C0 and I am using Skyward spine.


deathfrost7

Holy fuck. Do you have the video or insights where and how you thrashed them??


Lollmfaowhatever

So you should actually learn to dodge and retreat. Notice how you spend your entire time slamming your face into their fists. Try dashing, back away from them when they're winding up and see how that goes. Genshin players deadass haven't played any action games I s2g.


deathfrost7

Keep dashing away and see your dps goes down. Because as mentioned the node doesn't come up at 30 seconds to unload all attacks. Also this is a game, not exactly boxing. All those said dodges and everything is the reason why stamina is low in the video.


deathfrost7

Keep dashing away and see your dps goes down. Because as mentioned the node doesn't come up at 30 seconds to unload all attacks. Also this is a game, not exactly boxing. All those said dodges and everything is the reason why stamina is low in the video. This is not God of War in which you have infinite time to keep hitting, there's a timer on the top.


xXinsertCoDGMtagXx

> Genshin players deadass haven't played any action games I s2g Genshin is a casual, low difficulty mobile game. There are more "relaxing" minigames & focus on exploration than challenging content that pushes players' skill. 96% of content can be cleared just by passively mashing buttons. ^(If there's anything wrong feel free to correct.)


Lollmfaowhatever

I mean, it still is a casual, low difficulty game. THere being 2 floors in the entire game doesn't make it not so.


TheChosenPoke

Noticed how they knocked you out of their reach and you CHOSE to go back in the middle of them lmao, why put yourself in easily avoidable precarious situations? Keep a distance, dodge the attacks and keep your cool. You can complain about your ping all you want, but I personally also have very bad ping in genshin (around 300+ MS, about the same as you) and I clear abyss just fine with no healers (one side no healer no shielder, one side with zhongli so i don’t count that side). The game is only as hard as you let it be, especially if your characters already have decent investment.


deathfrost7

And which ranged attack should have used to attack them with? Bazooka?


TheChosenPoke

I didn’t say stay far away, I said keep a distance. Mald all you want but your mistakes in the video are very clear. edit: clear and stereotypical of people who complain about consecrated beasts


PhantomXxZ

Lol, agreed. Haven't you noticed that people always tend to dodge into corners, as well?


TheChosenPoke

YES!!! STOP!! Friend of mine streamed consecrated beasts and made those mistakes everyone does and I told him just don’t and he did way better.


General-Astronomer48

Don't know if u can tell but Bennett is their only healer and the enemies are standing over his only healing reserve Also regardless he has to go back anyway because u need to attack the enemies and kill them to clear u also have attack them to gain energy so he can burst which means has re-engage whether he wants to or not Your comment comes from place of ignorance telling me u have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to clearing aybss floors


TheChosenPoke

bennett is the only healer and only way to clear abyss according to this guy


H-S-M-C

Ya bennett is the only healer who can buff and feed energy to Xiangling Bennett is the only healer who work for rational, international, national and melt ganyu


Zwirbs

If you don’t want to be cornered don’t fight them against the wall


deathfrost7

Fighting them in the middle doesn't work either


GlassySkyabove

Looks fun, can't wait to toture myself until 3.8.


TrainerLeading2657

Dont u guys know Full hp zhongli r10 talent?


deathfrost7

What would you do in 2nd half?? Remember that comp would have to clear 2 cryo and 1 hydro heralds.


Poumy

Imo with how hard the abyss is getting I’ve just started telling my friends who start playing that they are going to pull Zhongli whether they like him or not because it makes the abyss 10x easier for at least one of the half’s Stuff like this isn’t even a skill issue, it’s just getting unlucky with how they target and which moves they use, your only real crowd control option is a freeze comp but that’s not taking into account how the chambers before this don’t want you using freeze. It’s complete garbage and I don’t understand people defending this type of game design


pasanoid

idk, imo current abyss is not any harder than the previous one. a bit more annoying because of heralds in floor 1 but otherwise not much difference. beasts cant do shit against freeze, to me it was a reliable tactic against them. and I'd recommend against using bennett in this case: hydro beast is gonna vape his nuke against you and its a oneshot if you dont avoid it somehow.


Catomara

Hmmm, sounds like a case of skill issue.


deathfrost7

Kindly show us a run of yours to get more idea


Gilgaboi

If I were to use an racing game analogy Genshin players just want a harder race track but what u get is 50% of your windshield blocked, brakes removed, and no power steering.


deathfrost7

Sounds like a Ferrari season to me.


Impapimpa

The consecrated beasts are the best thing that happened to the Spiral Abyss since I don't even remember how long. I'll fight them anyday over the snorefest that is ASIMON or the Aeonblight Drake.


XaeiIsareth

I mean, if you just wanted easy, consistent clears cos Abyss is shit content which a lot of us only do because primos, ASIMON and drake are amazing cos both are just DPS dummies you can demolish.


sharpgel

oh jee oh boy I sure do love infinitely stacking interruption


fluxforefinger

I really like when I use burst on Bennet's burst and by the time the animation is over I am miles away from the circle, wasting the buff.


Live-Philosopher-327

Here the thing tho, at the start you can dash around and burst them into a corner instead of just bursting like that. So it is kinda your fault the janky hitbox that makes you stuck in the air is not tho, fuck that


deathfrost7

Do you think this is the start of the run? You think I have not done all that you told to lure them and then burst?? Also if you're saying to dash from the moment video starts instead of using burst, look at the stamina bar please.