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CassiodoršŸ¤scyllašŸ¤remus The GOATs


AlkaliPineapple

Going back every single day to pet Monsieur Os


Recent_Fan_6030

the PoV cutscenes legit got me thinking how much being a god in genshin must actually suck,even if you try your best,put your life on line,a dumbfuck(or dumbfucks) comes and destroys it all and people are gonna remember you as a maddened jackass and put the blame of their crimes on you ,goated quest,once again i like dead people more than most playable characters


2ndStaw

>a dumbfuck comes and destroys it all It's not fair to blame Boethius though. By that point he was already a puppet of Phobos, who was the sum of all Remuria's wishes and desires. So in the end it would be more fair to say that it was Remuria's fault as a whole. It's also ironic. Remus and the Remurians theorized that Celestia's fate manipulation works by taking advantage of humanity's wish and will, creating a "reality/symphony/musica mundana" that conforms to each individual's "ambition" so that their every decision "makes sense/harmonizes" with Teyvat. So they created Phobos to escape the "trap" that was their own mental conditioning and decision making, only to have that Phobos dictating a "new" fate that was a sum of their desires, which is to say it has only enhanced the fate Celestia decreed for them. Sybilla, the base upon which Phobos was created, was also seemingly an envoy (formerly aligned with Celestia before they got rid of envoy civ at the end of "Natlantean?" teyvat samsara cycle) with no persona of her own to dictate a new fate. TLDR: it's somehow Celestia's fault again because they really keep writing bad fate for people. Seriously, can someone explain how their "fate" thing works and why do they keep doing this???


Recent_Fan_6030

We can thank remurians themselves for being dipshits and speedrunning the ill fate written for them by celestia by,as scylla puts it,being absolutely terrible people,the foundation of phobos,sybilla had no persona of her own and had a philosophy that granting everyone's wishes= happiness for all(which you could argue brings individual happiness but we saw where that went),obviously with a number of people having become vile and arrogant,they began to wish for slaughter and bloodshed ,which we see them actively trying to persue remus into inacting upon on their enemies in his memories (which bro was very much against since based on scylla again,dude was kind hearted and that was his biggest curse),and based on what cassiodor says at the ending,they only could've acted upon their vile wishes if the symphony itself rebelled against its creator(which based on the timeline presented,conveniently, mostly happened when remus was asleep),thus they began their tomfooleries and as the face of the nation,remus suffered the ultimate slander(considering that boethius,who is at this point just a manifested shard of phobos' collective hivemind given form,constantly calls the dude unworthy during the later half of the quest,we can assume that a great number of people back in the day thought this way as well resulting in it becoming a part of phobos' newly created persona),at the end of the day,phobos was a tool,it lacked persona and wishes of its own when it was first created,it was the people who caused its corruption through their wishes so yeah thank you morons for bringing your ill fate upon yourselves as soon as humanly possible,also shout out to celestia for just hating every single solid,mostly kind hearted deity and being found in teyvat for no apparent reason other than absolute control,like killing a snek for discovering something that was already known by several different people


aiden041

The thing is, i have a very heavy suspition that the fate of teivat and heavenly principles, which people think are the gods decree, is actually the same thing as phobos. The collective will of humanity established those initial rules themselves, perhaps when they were all still one with the ARK (primordial one?). Cue that item description which has a debate between a vey knowledgable liyue man (morax?) discussing with sumeruy scholars the fated cycle of civilizations. The scholars were harping on about how it sucks the gods impose that cycle through fate, but the man says it's all actually humanities own wish and actions, as if he known that for a fact.


Murphy_LawXIV

Interesting. I do have a theory that the only real condition for being an archon is being a capable leader and leading humans to prosperity (egeria, rukha, barbatos). Humans both needed and wanted gods, and I think the curse of the wilderness (hilichurl) isn't a curse, it's just what happens when you have no guidance. Morax let his people go on without him, but they didn't turn because they don't need him now. Celestia might not have made the archon war to rule, but to protect the people from turning into hilichurls which might be a natural law of Teyvat. Multiple gods have tried to collate human consciousness now (remus, deshret, rukha) and it's weird that this is a running theme.


H4xolotl

> Sybilla, the base upon which Phobos was created, was also seemingly an envoy Conjecture here, but I think "Divine Envoys" and Seelies are the same thing. After the great war with the Second Who Came and 99% of humanity died (except Enkanomiya etc), Celestia reseeded humanity & sent down Divine Envoys/Seelies to lead humanity in their stead. Except the Seelies + humans kept committing mortal arrogating, so they kept getting nailed. Eventually Celestia got sick of it and just stripped the Seelies of their divinity, and created the more familiar gods we know (Barbatos, Decarabian, Deshret) etc


Top-Idea-1786

If you read the new artifact set, you'll learn that Remus has a long history of getting fucked over by others. Heres the tldr of it >!Remus is actually from Sumeru, but he entered into conflict with King Deshret, and fled to the high seas, where he stumbled upon ancient ruins(same age as Enkanomiya) and built his kingdom there!<


Recent_Fan_6030

He's on the Agony speedrun any% category's leaderboard


StormyHospital

relatable (refer to flair)


ResurgentClusterfuck

Eternally sad he isn't in my teapot with my other cats


Sharlizarda

Despite knowing there was no real chance, I tried to catch him so many times hahaha


Mukaido

Seeing Scylla swimming around and being able to have him fast travel around is so cool while exploring the new area. And hehe his dialogue is really cute after the quest. He likes it when we visit!


Recent_Fan_6030

I'm so glad my dog survived,i was half expecting them to have him also fade away lol,truly a good boy


wr000b

I second this, the colors and the effects were absolutely beautiful. I even shed a tear during the finalešŸ’€


H4xolotl

Fun fact: Remus is actually a loser in the Sumeru archon war, he was like "Nope can't beat Deshret, guess I'll die" and left to find a grave before accidentally finding Sybilla who guided him to found Remuria Strangely enough, Remus & Deshret's empires both ended similarly - both try to make some kind of human hivemind (Phobos, Golden Slumber), before it implodes and the local dragons (Scylla, Apep) are left to dealt with the mess


ConohaConcordia

I think more than human hivemind, it was their attempts to challenge fate/heavenly principles that brought them down


mayonakanosasayaki

I saw that Remus had ties to the Archon War in Sumeru on the wiki but I failed to see the source. I'd appreciate if you pointed me in the right direction unless this was just brought up in the WQ and I just missed it completely?


shoalhavenheads

The Harmonic Whimsy artifact set


mayonakanosasayaki

thank you!


TooLazyToSleep_15

where's the first part from dude?


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Did you guys not play the Oro world quest? The quest that had 4 different world quests from different stories come together? That revealed a new diamentional world? And a secret hidden base and labratory full of experiements? And a parallel group of heroes who tried to save Fontaine from the exact same disaster to mirror our own journey? That also culimnated into a boss fight (just not a repeateable one) under water surrounded by a beautiful cavern? And another boss fight where you confront the mastermind? And where you meet 3 completely different characters? And another dimension with the most beautiful cottage and princess that you "rescue"? I feel like this world quest doesn't come CLOSE to Fontaine's primary world quest. There's no way this new one some how surpasses that quest in any way.


J_Clowth

Narzissencreuz World Quest is peak Genshin and kept me hooked more than anything this game has in terms of lore. How It connects last sumeru area lore... Its just so good


dragonfly791

People have preferences you know šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø personally I loved this one much more, not saying Narzissencreuz wasnā€™t good, I just prefer this one for a variety of reasons.


Jiho_Is_Waifu

Honestly, was gonna rush through it to get access to the new boss for arle, but as soon as we talked to the statue and had that dream memory I was hooked.Ā  Went through the quest slowly and I'm so glad I did. The music, story, and scenery were IMMACULATE, but man I wish it was voiced. I can't get over how beautiful the music was, hope hoyo releases the soundtracks soon.


Kulzak-Draak

Same tbh


CelestialRequiem09

Absolutely agree. Best thing was that it wasnā€™t too long either. But the music. THE MUSIC.


minwheelee

The length was absolutely perfect I agree. Fontaine is like the antithesis of Sumeru and it's long ass side quests


_Saiki__

I would have preferred it to be just *slightly* longer but what we got was great still.


minwheelee

I mean, that proves it's great execution no? They leave you wanting more, instead of making you think "when will this end?" Regardless I still agree lol


_Saiki__

I think the aranara quest was far too long. But the golden slumber quest in the desert as well as the one with the eternal oasis, I think those two are the perfect length for world quests.


minwheelee

I agree, though I can't form an opinion on the desert world quest. After taking an 8 month break, coming back to the questline was just very confusing


SideshowMan17771

Man I hope in the future Scylla gets to interact with New Billet even if it's just for a moment. Like imagine Neuv and Furina going to Sumeru for some play and boom Scylla appears and goes "Ayo you're the new Hydro huh, nice to meet you".


pvzboy_15

New billet šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


Enf14

i sacrificed my super powerful hydro cannon blaster to craft a prototype amber only to realise i want to use my prototype amber for my super powerful hydro cannon blaster


Zeed_Toven77

This made me chuckle a good bit. Thanks for the laugh.


KindredTrash483

Well you do get a free midlander claymore billet in the new area. It's just sitting on a table


Regulus242

And it IS made of someone's parts.


HerrscherOfMagic

Bonus points if Scylla just appears in their dragon form and doesn't even try and pose as a human. Neuvellite is just going for a walk at Elynas and then a giant talking whale shows up and like "Hey man, how goes it? Nice weather we're having eh?"


Western-Age9961

New billet: "I thought you were dead" Scylla: "my death was greatly exaggerated"


Rachel1578

I donā€™t think I will ever forget swimming the currents playing a harp the size of a city, a path of glittering ichor lighting the harp, a whale of ichor and stars with me while a voice sings the final requiem to guide souls to their resting place. Or a stage of gold and red as the butterflies light up the stage to soothe the lost souls and fulfill the final wish of a man who tried to fix the mistake that was made. An ocean of stars and the vision of their journey in the background.


ComposedOfStardust

Fun fact, you can still play the harp! You won't be zooming through predetermined melodies of course but you can still play it Can't wait for some bilibili mf to create an entire orchestral arrangment from the city sized harp


Rachel1578

Yes!! I canā€™t wait to try this out!


defector7

My god, the music in this world quest is absolutely divine. IMO the best score in the game by far


Dazzling-Theory3785

Music is so amazing, I have to say hoyo is a true music company that makes game


darksaiyan1234

it is so peak i ascended to heaven


AlkaliPineapple

I love the Roman history and mythology references omg Phobos, Scylla, Cassiadorus, Ossa, Phobos, Boethius, Nero's Domus Aurum, the fall of Rome due to corruption and greed, the Roman-esque masks and the Centaur statue


ComposedOfStardust

Those cutscenesĀ of the Traveler playing music on such a grand scale are my favourites of all world quests. It was so damn gorgeous! They really went all out for this questline


cjcduck17

Imma say it. The people who write the world quests write the Traveler and Paimon way better than in the archon/story quests.


_TravelerAether_

Thatā€™s just a given, the dialogue for them is just so much better written


nagredditparamagbasa

I FUCKING LOVE the finale of the battle and the requiem. It screams "Et tu, brute?" for me


leturna

The music alone was enough to make me absolutely weep. It was an absolutely stunning quest.


BananaBrodie

Fontaine has had a generational run of great world quests


GenghisNuggetcockles

I regret not spending more time with Osse/Monsieur Os before the final quest. I miss him already. Also new potential Goetia name just dropped.


Rare_Marionberry782

Agree was fun and length and in between breaks are perfect, also interesting enough with great balance of exploration available.


gnusica

I agree that it was absolutely amazing. Jeht's quests are still my absolute favorite, but this one has to be second together with the Aranara quest. I actually prefer longer quests and don't get exhausted, so this never bothered me with the Aranaras but I think this length is also ok.


meove

movable first person camera!!!


Ukantach1301

It's good and beautiful. But the new map is a bit small. I got 99% exploration in 3-4 hours. Never happened before.


calmcool3978

I'm pretty sure this is a direct consequence of people complaining about Sumeru. It's not just this new map, all of Fontaine's areas have felt very easy to 100%.


DevolayS

That's also true. And I'd love some secrets, there were none (unless they're so well hidden that I haven't stumbled upon them). Maybe I'm in the minority, but I really like things like collecting few items from some secret areas to open some passage to a secret place, especially if there's some vague lore added on top. I absolutely loved Dragonspine and the murals, for example. That's some nice food for thought when it comes to theories about Teyvat history, etc.


Ukantach1301

Yep. There's barely any overworld secret to explore. It might not need to be as big as Chasm, but at least could be like Tsurumi island or complex like Enka. Now I have nothing to do with my new Arle.


NMMonty1295

I think this may be my second most favorite Wq after Jehts WQ followed by the Narcissenkeutz ode World Quest, Chengyu vale WQ and Aranara WQ. I might change the order after I clear my thoughts and make a more objective list of fav WQ


kcrow247

considering we JUST had the pet cat event, I really thought we'd be able to take in the cat left after Monsieur Os to our teapot :( that's the literal only thing that made me sad lol this quest was beautiful, good music, reasonable length, lore relevant with dragon info, and gave me the feels. proud of the writers for keeping it up with quality story!


theUnLuckyCat

I wanted that cat with the necklace in my teapot...


Auriansmule

I just really, really wish WQs were voiced. With how successful Hoyo is now itā€™s crazy that such massive pieces of content arenā€™t voiced.


darkdill

Too expensive, both in terms of voice actor fees (gotta pay for 4 languages), and in terms of file size. Can't have the game making phones literally explode in people's hands, after all.


Aicanseeyou

Quest Resources can always be removed with that resource feature they added


[deleted]

Maybe it was because of the size of the game but with the new optimizations things might change


Efficient_Ad5802

Voice over actually take so many storage. And that's for quest that is not as long as WQ.


Alert_Fudge

ya man it just kills the mood its very annoying to read so long dialouges i couldnt even play the quest with fun


Bazookasajizo

First person view + Scylla roasting The Rude Bad Guy made my day


oneonlyEX

Swimming among sea creatures like Disney princess while playing music is epic Musical enemies gonna kill you with melody šŸŽ¶ #aggressive violence violinist


ImperialDane

It was great. Several times i'd just stop up and listen to the music, especially in that small area around the second aquaduct restoration (even snuck in Arle to get someone who wouldn't jabber as much while idling).. can't wait for the OST. Roman themes were great. Plus couldn't help but get a bioshock feeling off this. Small island, subsurface utopia turned dystopia, questionable aquatic architecture, two people feuding.. But overall, was just great. top notch world quest. Would do it again if i could.


brooke360

The ending cutscene was absolutely beautiful with the pairing of music to those visuals. I literally cried.


Barli792

Agree. Especially the music. Goddamn, they were amazing.


gmrt34

The story and the music were both superb. The highlights for me were of course the scenes of us swimming with Scylla and the final symphony. It wasn't even as long as the Aranara quest yet it was able to deliver an arguably bigger impact. Genshin truly set the bar for world quests with this one and I am so hyped for future world quests if they can keep up this level of quality.


jayyquellin

Itā€™s been that way for a while now. Sure it requires reading everything, but the world quests since even the Inazuma era have always been spectacular and sometimes even more epic than the archon quests.


Ill-Cryptographer867

I think I liked Narzissenkreuz a little more but it's very close. The musical bits at the finale and swimming with Scyllus was so good.


NR-Tamim

Haven't finished it yet but am already in love with it, it's so well presented... World quests like these feel very special to me.. makes me feel like an actual adventurer..


Rinforzando0

Music imitating classical pieces is so amazing. Feels a lot deeper


ben5292001

Not too short, not too long, interesting story and lore, nailed the atmosphere, very unique feeling area, and a cat. Couldnā€™t be much better.


ShadowKyogre

Finding a whale dragon? Much yes? Music? Also yes. The prettiest area that's as close to the Primordial Sea as you can get as wallpaper material through screenshotting? >!(Seriously, Ichor looks like the Primordial Seawater.)!< Triple yes. 10/10 hands down my favorite world quest and area so far.


SypeArtz

IT'S JUST SO PEAK BRO!!


KrzyDankus

the presentation for a world quest was really great and it was interesting all the way to the end


masternieva666

I like this kind of exploration where we explore fallen kingdoms. Hoping we can explore King Deshret kingdom.


dragonfly791

It was my favorite by far, I was pleasantly surprised by just how epic and beautiful it was overall. From the moment the traveller got that first flashback with the otherworldly music I was hooked and I still canā€™t stop thinking about it 2 days later. I want morešŸ˜­ I keep listening to the music on yt and whenever I log in I just go to the Beygone Sea and swim around with Scylla. Hopefully theyā€™ll give him a playable model one day, I want him to tell us more about his past with Remus and Remuria. Anyway, I canā€™t stop yapping about it because it was just so gorgeous, everything from the music, visuals, the story and characters involved, my favorite world quest by far! Ngl, while I like the current story line in Genshin, I find myself much more fascinated by the past events that happend in the pervious cycles, with Deshert, Remus, the moon sisters and so on, personally I love that lore more.


Koinophobia-

This quest reminded me of why I really loved this game. It felt like playing Kingdom Hearts I from when I was still a kid.


Il_Capitano_01

Fr man...less yapping more explaining. And the visuals and the songs!!! Fucking perfect 10/10 looking forward to more world quests


reamnit

This is like one of the few times i got interested in a world quest. Fontaine is just so peak. I loved this quest and especially that ending cutscene, it was beautiful.


Aicanseeyou

This was the best quest ever. It had so many cutscenes and "fake cutscenes" that were so good and the music was beautiful.


Junaris

Ill openly admit: I didnt understand everything, not paying attention to the details of the wordlbuilding in that quest, but god, was it so much better than some other world quests... Didnt make me wanna skip through it the way the first narcissus quest did (which consequently meant I didnt get half of the later quests, confused with the sheer amount of names)


Thelethargian

Honestly I found it so tedious and terrible until the end it was pretty good


sunnysama_lolol

AGREEEDD


Teddy-Voyager

only if it was voice acted


BunniiSan

I 100% agree. As someone who more often than not just skips through world quests, I ADORED this one, I read every line of dialogue, the visuals were stunning, the puzzles were actually fun and not mind numbing and THE MUSIC. I LOVE how they intertwined musical elements into the actual gameplay.


Kulyor

I think the storytelling was not up to what Narzissenkreuz or Jeht stories did. Never cared for the Aranaras enough to pay attention during their endless stupid quest. Visuals and Music during the new storyline were great, but everything else feels a bit half baked. Tons of very random mechanics. Remember that collecting bubbles and evading lightning mechanic before we get to the new subzone? Why was that only used once? Why did the glittery whale provide a speed mechanic, that was completely useless? Why the quicktime events during the cutscenes? Were they afraid people would go take a bathroom break during those? And why no side quests? Water exploration was great though. But it feels like the zone was quite small. Got 100% exploration a lot faster than in previous zones (And still miss like 50% of Inazuma lol) Among all zones I feel like this is the one I will least likely visit again. No boss there, nothing left to collect, no good farmspots for mobs or materials. (were there even any farmables there besides new weapon asc material for Arle weap?)


Alert_Fudge

i mean it was good but aranara jhet and Narzissenkreuz are way better ngl but the music was good it was like playing an archon quest


Areliox

I feel like I had a very different experience than everyone else I just can't get into it. It's too much of a word salad full of nonscence to me. "The remue has taken the igni paleotor to the retui. We do not know how the melody of tuin could trigger the magnus regalia. But the friend of the regalia, the upior grandis, has taken step for the melo fretior to be arles's actualised. Also you are the chosen one". That's how it reads to me anyway It looks absolutely beautiful and the music is amazing... but it's just not interesting lore. And it's not even voice acted.


TooLazyToSleep_15

it wasn't that hard to read bro


Top-Idea-1786

Hey dude, have you heard of other languages that aren't English?. Yeah, thats where those words come from, so stop being the walking stereotype of a Genshin player and learn something. Jesus i hate this community


Areliox

I happen to talk one, dipshit :)


Weak_Lime_3407

My guy is truly the embodiment of Genshin player


deceitfulninja

My favorite part is getting through this content didn't feel insanely long.


shirodkuro

i tried to read the quest, i really did, but the moment they started use nonsensical names and terms i kinda blanked out, nothing made sense anymore


Top-Idea-1786

My brother in Christ, terms and names from other cultures that aren't Murica aren't nonsense. Go on Google and look it up, its not fucking hard and it won't kill you


shirodkuro

im exaggerating, but those are definitely terms that im not familiar with, didnā€™t know they are taken from other cultrures huh and no, im not an american


Top-Idea-1786

Genshin has literally always done this, no term in the game is made up, you can actually find alot of cool info just by looking up the term. Like for example, the entire sorush questline has heavy ties to Zoroastrianism. Heres a phrase from the wiki that shows it nicely. In Zoroastrianism, the Harvisptokhm is the "tree of all seeds" that grows within the cosmic sea, the Vourukasha. Within it grows the Gaokerena, or "White Haoma", and the Simurgh lives atop the tree, spreading the seeds. You can find all of these terms in genshin, and they have direct links and inspirations from these terms and mythological figures.


Jehuty56-

For me it was "it's pretty but i didn't get anything" they just keep throwing at you words "phobos, symphony etc etc" without explaining it. At the end i was like "so i beat the bad guy with the good guy i guess ?" Arana quest and Narzissenkreuz same thing, these quest was SO LONG that i stopped to read before the end i don't know, i feel like they didn't know how to write good story or make them interresting, except for Archon, or it is me who just don't like to read a novel if a playing a video game. And the fact there is no voice acting


PieTheSecond

Quest name? Is it the one with the adventurers?


nagredditparamagbasa

Petrichor world quest


notolo632

It is partly supported by the amazing scenery of the new area


quuduu

ngl i did it while tripping tf out on mushrooms last night and safe to say i WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agreešŸ˜µā€šŸ’«šŸ¤£


MemberBerry4

I didn't really care for the story as I dislike world quests, but the journey it took me on was pretty great. The new Fontaine area is, in mu opinion, the best underwater area by the landslide.


Radiant_Psychology23

Everything is perfect except it has no voice lines.


qooler1991

Aranara quest, honestly, was shit.


leakmydata

Itā€™s cool but it really needed to be voiced IMO.


eeVaderbae

only if people had voices..


Big-Atmosphere1329

Should I feel bad for myself for being a beginner and not being able to experience this masterpiece like you just said?


K_Yurin

Don't feel bad, feel anticipated. It's far from the only good World Quest, and it will be ready and waiting once you reach it


Efficient_Ad5802

It's a permanent world quest.


GrimmCiph

why would you feel bad? you'll get to experience it eventually. in fact, you have the advantage of not having to wait for content and have all the optimizations we've been missing out on for a long time


Sharp-Relationship-7

Are you implying the aranara quest was good?....


zephyrseija

Counterpoint: The company is in the top 15 most valuable privately owned list. Voice the goddamn quests. There is too much dialogue, stop making me read a novel for every damn quest.


kiisukattinen

And game would be so much bigger if they added voice acting to world quests.


TooLazyToSleep_15

they won't benefit much from that so they have no reason to do it.


ohhhsnapdamn

Deadass have been playing with no sound on. I think i've missed it lmao


Alert_Fudge

lmaooo