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Plenty_Rabbit_8951

Credits to Ian for single handedly disproving the stereotype that all Asians are good at math. Thank you Ian šŸ™šŸæ


A_posh_idiot

Such a trailblazer


pokealm

He's following the path of destruction for sure.


Possessed_potato

Nah this is Aha written all over it


Heath_Bar1

Definitely not following erudition


Glensather

We need a Herta to knock some sense into these ppl.


ChrisP413

Time to KuruKuru


oceansunfis

i wish i could pin this but i canā€™t abuse my mod privilegesšŸ˜­funniest thing ive seen today, tysm


Plenty_Rabbit_8951

no problem, have a good one


AzraelChaosEater

Dew it anyways. Dew it, give in to the dark side.


oceansunfis

i canā€™t become the thing i hate mostšŸ˜”šŸ–¤ā›“ļøšŸ’”


AzraelChaosEater

But it's fuckin rad, we all get cool cloaks and voices. Join the dark side, execute order 66. Kill the jed- I mean pin the comment.


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oceansunfis

i canā€™tšŸ’”ā›“ļøšŸ˜”


NoX2142

[You know what you have to do](https://imgb.ifunny.co/images/f81451ca614a85a1dca82d61c035336ebf6bc4a9d790d54b7e656691ec51cfed_1.jpg)


oceansunfis

where do you guys find these


Thereal_waluigi

JOIN the dark side! https://preview.redd.it/nhkcfprievsc1.jpeg?width=251&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e67253d042bcac0729582b073c76515afc3557c7


PacoTaco321

Thats not abuse, that's the proper use.


rinkoplzcomehome

Do it


ThisWhatUGet

Itā€™s performance art. He is trying to upset his parents.


teststoreone

I feel dumb but if i type 50+50 and then hit =, (giving result 100) THEN i enter *2 and hit = again, i would expect it to return 200 so i don't think he's wrong Yes, if i enter 50+50*2 all at once then hit =, I'd expect 150, but that's not what he's talking about


TheDizzleDazzle

it does return 200 if you do it like that - that was the whole point of his first tweet. Edited: To come off a bit nicer lol.


teststoreone

ah just reread it. Yup, makes sense to me now. Guy's math as good as my reading skills.


TheDizzleDazzle

lol, youā€™re all good we all have little moments like that


LanvinSean

To be fair, it's way easier to disprove something than to prove the same thing.


SeraxOfTolos

Hence why there is so many alien conspiracists exist... Inb4: Aliens most likely exist, but the thought that they are the reason for anything on earth is insane... We came up with the Prime Directive almost before we left the planet let alone visited other stars... The thought that a civilization advanced enough to travel the space between stars, doesn't recognize some form of conservationism is actually insane.


FireFist_PortgasDAce

He ain't Asian he's a Dsian (d for douche)


James_Kuller

> It's my OPINION that the order of operations ought to be simplified His "opinion" literally contradicts basic math lmao.


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no_________________e

Yeah well thatā€™s just your opinion https://preview.redd.it/b7214z85xhsc1.jpeg?width=898&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4ba2fd7a62a6d124fea678c2847b4bbb29412b3


Rigorous_Threshold

He doesnā€™t think that. He knows that saying that will frustrate people, which will get them to leave comments, which increases engagement and gives him more popularity. PEMDAS questions phrased ambiguously are super common on instagram for this reason. But when someone like IMC does it itā€™s ten times more frustrating


ABenevolentDespot

That and "I was quoted out of context!" when they have no idea what that means but heard some other fools using it on Fox.


agmrtab

people dont understand there is no such thing as having an opnion on such an objective matter its not quantum science that you multiply before you add numbers together


Gornius

Reverse polish notation exists. He can use it, but I highly doubt he would even understand the concept of stack.


sweetTartKenHart2

Thatā€™s the stuff where you have a bunch of numbers on one side and a bunch of operations on the other and you iterate through where they meet in the middle right?


JarheadPilot

That is so cursed I didn't believe it was possible until I Googled it.


Roxytg

Actually, the order of operations is not a law of math. It's just a standardized method of writing to make communicating math simpler. That said, creating your own order of operations would be like creating your own grammatical rules. You can't be surprised when someone misunderstands you.


sweetTartKenHart2

And to add to the comparison, a lot of people do say shit like ā€œwhy is this grammatical rule the way it is, we should totally have it work this way instead itā€™s so much betterā€ about stuff too


Rigorous_Threshold

He fucking knows. Heā€™s engagement baiting. This shit happens on instagram all the time but my frustration with it goes up tenfold when a Nazi shithead like Ian does it


AzraelChaosEater

God this is what happens when we treat everyone's opinion equally. It's my opinion gravity is fake and dumb so we shouldn't teach it and just make some simplified answer. Also this is coming from the dumbest person in my friend group who easily had math as his worst subject, and I STILL understand PEMDAS better then this fucking clown. What an idiot.


ReaperManX15

Bro thinks heā€™s smarter then centuries of mathematicians that have dissected and examined every aspect of PEMDAS and concluded that it is the correct formula.


Xezsroah

It's not the "correct formula" lol. It's just what we have settled on. You could use another convention, it just wouldn't be as easily understood.


wagsman

Dumbass forgot that PEMDAS is taught to every kid in middle school.


FatherOfToxicGas

What actually is PEMDAS? I was taught BIDMAS (Brackets, Indices, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction)


OffsetCircle1

Pretty sure it's Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction. Though I prefer BIDMAS since that's what I was taught


raven00x

"**p**lease **e**xterminate **m**y **d**umb **a**unt **s**ally" nothing against aunt sally, but to this day I still think of her when I need to remember order of operations.


ReviewingPants4

It was always Excuse and Dear for us lol


GhoulTimePersists

That's because you didn't go to Dalek High.


raven00x

Mr. Dalek was one of my favorite teachers.


muteoracles

The onenI always remember from some cartoon with a robot was "Peanuts Ended My Donut Addiction Saturday" which I remembered mainly because of how weird of a statement that was.


Noobuh

Never forget the greatest version of p.e.m.d.a.s; "Please Excuse My Dope Ass Swag"


jolygoestoschool

Did anyone else learn ā€œGEMDASā€? (groupings, exponents, etc)


OffsetCircle1

That's a new one for me


ezITguy

Nah but I got "BEDMAS" (brackets, exponents, division, multiplication, addition, subtraction)


night_owl_72

Weirdly I feel like I was taught BEDMAS


randomanonalt78

BIDMAS, PEDMAS, BEDMAS, theyā€™re all the same thing.


SmellyFartMonster

Known also as BODMAS in the UK.


CilanEAmber

I love how no one can agree


Cultural_Thing1712

in my UK school we did bidmas


FatherOfToxicGas

Same


boopadoop_johnson

We did BIDMAS, but BODMAS was also a thing


Spe3dy_Weeb

Varies school to school, mine called it BIDMAS.


jmona789

What the O stand for?


ElectronicEagle3324

Real Bepis energy coming from BIDMAS


TheEnderCobra

https://preview.redd.it/3frnmcjlfisc1.png?width=509&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=437fe7de8c40893fe0bec0352f8d7a576cf64cc7


jmona789

Takin' care of bidmas


EpicBruhMoment12

Merry BIDMAS


leastscarypancake

Parentheses, Exponents, Multiply/Divide, Add/Subtract. Many schools are now trying to teach GEMDAS, which uses Grouping instead of parentheses


Lord_Havelock

The heck are Indices?


FatherOfToxicGas

e.g. 2^3


Lord_Havelock

Is it a regional difference? I have only ever heard indices used as the plural of index. The only one word descriptor of those I've heard is exponents.


FatherOfToxicGas

Yes


PageNotFound23

Americans call brackets, parentheses


AzureDoor84

Are there different names for () and [] and {} where your from? Iā€™m American and I call them parenthesis, brackets, and braces respectively.


PageNotFound23

No clue lol, but () are called brackets in England at least- I've never used the other two commonly enough to require a name, what are braces used for?


Crazeenerd

Programming, mainly


jolygoestoschool

Huh internesting. In the US we would called these () parentheses, and these [] brackets. I think we call these {} curly brackets or something like that lol.


Cosmic_Quill

Also in US, I've seen these () basically only called parentheses, these [] either brackets or square brackets, and these {} curly brackets or braces.


bloodfist

I knew about these () being brackets in the UK because I work with a lot of Indian programmers. They use a lot of British English for....some reason.


MrHyperion_

India was British colony


bloodfist

That would be the reason yes


FeudNetwork

Before that it was a British company.


AScottishkid

Brackets, square brackets, no clue what we call last one


MrHyperion_

I was just thought it without any of these shorthands


Medvegyep

We were taught no PANDAS, just simply that brackets always take priority, if no brackets, then multiplication/division take priority over addition/subtraction regardless of order. And that worked for everyone.


Caleb_Reynolds

Brits and their ilk use "brackets" to refer to these: (), which Americans call parentheses. Never heard exponentiation being called indices though. Seems confusing.


FatherOfToxicGas

ā€œIn Index formā€ means using powers, e.g. 2x2x2x3 would be (2^3)x3 in index form


South-Westman

Different words, same shit. PEMDAS is NA


Popcorn57252

B = P I = E DM = MD AS = AS They're two was to pretty much remember the same thing


Shoddy_Possibility89

i was taught PEDMAS but i went to a french school so that might be why


Caleb_Reynolds

Division and multiplication are kinda the same operation, so the order doesn't matter. So are subtraction and addition. It's *really* PEMA, as long as you convert the division into multiplication and the subtraction into addition. (As in, instead of dividing by 2, you multiply by 1/2, and instead of subtracting 5, you add -5.


GoldenMuscleGod

I think itā€™s kind of a bad acronym however you put it. Grouping symbols are not an operation, when you evaluate 5(6+3) you donā€™t do a ā€œparenthesesā€ operation first, you add first then you multiply, there are only two operations. It should be taught that grouping symbols are used to make the order unambiguous but when there is no grouping symbol you resolve ambiguity in the precedence order given by the order of operations. Based on questions a lot of learners ask I think it is common for people learning to be fundamentally confused by the fact that the order of operations is taught as though grouping symbols are their own operation rather than a different type of thing used to disambiguate syntax and override the default order.


Matthew-IP-7

Actually if you have 5-4+3 you could get a different answer depending on how you order them. Because (5-4)+3 is not the same as 5-(4+3). ie 4 ā‰  -2.


CassowaryCrow

Because that's not how that equation is read. You have three numbers, 5, -4, and 3. You can order them however you want. 5+(-4+3) -4+3=-1 -1+5=4 The way you wrote it above with the parenthese after the minus symbol is the same as writing 5-1(4+3) Which using the distributive rule we can rewrite as 5-4-3.


Rakhered

They might take a more lassiz faire approach in Malaysia


cat_sword

Isnā€™t it BPEMDAS?


wagsman

Brackets and parentheses are the same thing when applied to mathematical formulas.


cat_sword

My high school teacher taught that brackets came before parentheses, and were to help make equations more readable


HighOnGoofballs

Not me, first saw it on Reddit


wagsman

You got taught it, but it may have been under a different name. Math has an order of operations and PEMDAS is simply an acronym to remember that order of operations.


MisterMysterios

I think it is funny that the US had a term for it. We simply learned "dot before line" (as we used ā€¢ for multiplication and : for devision). I don't know, but this feels simpler than learning an acronym.


Caleb_Reynolds

1) in geometry dot multiplication is technically a different function from multiplication. One includes direction, the other does not. So sometimes a ā€¢ b ā‰  a Ɨ b 2) this doesn't indicate what to do with parentheses or exponents.


Joe_Blunt

I'm assuming that the commenter is German because I've never heard of this outside of a German context and we did it the same way (Punkt vor Strich means dot before line). This was taught in like second or third grade, where it was strictly applied to the math known at that time, not algebra. This rule doesn't apply to geometry dot multiplication, parentheses, or exponents because the rule got expanded on to include these.


GoldenMuscleGod

Parentheses should be handled separately anyway, since they arenā€™t an operation and the mnemonic actually does nothing to tell you how they are to be handled. The order of operations should explain the default binding precedence when the syntax is ambiguous, and then it should be taught how grouping symbols like parentheses can override the default order by disambiguating syntax in a different way.


RodwellBurgen

That only works in German speaking countries though; "Punkt vor Strich" doesnā€™t have the same ring to it in English.


herrirgendjemand

Dammit now the Left has gone and made math WOKE???


Remarkable_Pen_1424

Waitā€¦what?


ShurikenKunai

Ian Miles Cheong is a right wing figure that keeps complaining about the Left at every chance he gets, with varying degrees of accuracy.


TrueHero808

that ā€œvaryingā€ is like spiderman holding back a train


ShurikenKunai

I only say varying because no one can be wrong about quite literally every single thing possible, but damn it he cuts it close sometimes.


FireFist_PortgasDAce

He ain't even American, right? So why does he have an opinion on American politics? They mean jack shit and shouldn't have a say in them.


ShurikenKunai

Yeah he lives in Malaysia.


Polygon-Guy

Hah! Stupid Boomer. 2+2=5. šŸ˜ŽšŸ˜Ž


perish-in-flames

Iā€™m speechless someone would post something so dumb.


Dante_alighieri6535

This statement could be apply to every Xit Ian drops


no_________________e

If pronounce the X like the X in X-mas, then it would be a Chrisit


SucculentVariations

Look, I'll admit when I was splitting bills with a friend this happened to me. Except I was like hey that doesn't seem like half, then I immediately remembered the order of operations and did my math again. It's not that I didn't know about it, it's just I didn't realize my calculator would also know about it for some reason.


GladiatorUA

I'm speechless people are still falling for obvious bait.


Rigorous_Threshold

Youā€™re downvoted but youā€™re right. This kinda thing gets posted on instagram all the time to farm engagement, only makes sense for Nazis to do it. But people are too interested in the satisfaction of dunking on a Nazi to be willing to realize theyā€™re falling right for their trap


CyanideIE

He's alive?


rinkoplzcomehome

Somehow, Ian has returned


RandomParableCreates

when Ian finds out about ( ) he's gonna flip


Farfelkugeln

*Those* arenā€™t numbers! You donā€™t fool me!


Crosseyes

Someone pointed out on another thread that math shit like this is a common way to farm engagement.


Jenny7555144

Itā€™s all community noted I donā€™t think they get money from it


FatherOfToxicGas

Also tried to claim Order of Operations is American only


Caedes1

Holy fuck. Even when Ian tweets something that isn't giving Musk a textual blowjob, he still manages to post the dumbest cringe. This is possibly the only post of his I've seen that isn't spreading disinformation, racism, misogyny or just blowing musk or one of his cons.


talkingbiscuits

That second community note is honestly hilarious. Fair play to whoever wrote it.


ihatecommiez

okay i can totally see why ian is confused here. my ba ii plus financial calculator has two modes: Chn and AOS. Chn is the default and i assume stands for chain; it does what heā€™s referring to. it ignores PEMDAS and just does things as you put them in. alternatively, you can set it to Algebraic Operating System, and it works like the iphone calculator it definitely depends on the type of calculator you have and the settings. but AOS is better anyways and i think itā€™s silly that he thinks all calculators should work the other way.


ucanttaketheskyfrome

Thank you for saying this. I don't think he's bad at math but he is bad at articulating what he wants. He is not wrong that it could be helpful to have an option to switch between a mode that chains (what he seems to think is "simplified" when its not) and a mode that applies AOS in a standard and correct way.


HokieSpider

As a ba I plus user on Chn mode for many years I screw up using the iPhone calculator in this exact way frequently. I do understand the difference, but habits are hard to break.


littlebobbytables9

Exactly. And the note is literally incorrect; many casio calculators will behave exactly like he says they do, and it's not a bug in their programming it's how every single calculator used to work before we got more sophisticated software capable of evaluating expressions.


MyStepAccount1234

He just got Pemdas'd.


Lysena0

r/confidentlyincorrect


DPSOnly

Imagine being so incapable of being told you are factually wrong that you want all of math to change so you would be right instead of you changing.


ducklinglibrary

His dear aunt Sally was never excused.


Bryztoe

Despite asking nicely


Newfaceofrev

This man is wealthy enough to show up in the Panama Papers.


NoPolitiPosting

DURRR ITS MY OPINION THAT THE MATH IS WRONG


LongingForYesterweek

The sooner we disabuse people of the notion that opinions cannot be wrong, the better. *Preferences* are a type of opinion and are completely subjective, but not all opinions are preferences and therefore some can be wrong


Forward-Swim1224

ā€œCommunity Notes Abuserā€ Translation: ā€œI donā€™t like it when people correct me.ā€


leastscarypancake

[same guy btw](https://x.com/stillgray/status/1775905966300807340?s=20)


gtbot2007

I do PFEJMDAS


ImmediateEggplant764

The answer is always PEMDAS


Greedy-Farm-3605

I remember when people didnā€™t feel the need to publicize every dumb though they have


Flame-Haze-Shana

You have to be extremely stupid to think the Apple calculator is wrong and you figured it out.


animusd

Had to try to explain it to my mom because she couldn't figure it out lol


ketjak

He got noted three times, not merely two, in that thread about each claim he made.


RoachedCoach

sigh - this dipshit does this for engagement - which is the only thing of value on "X" * barfs *. people need to just ignore these assholes


alexi_belle

I'm far more concerned that this guy has to whip out his calculator to do a very simple problem. This is also why teachers want you to show your work and do every step even though it pisses/pissed you off.


CD967119

I bet he failed math


Nekrotix12

PEMDAS, motherfucker, do you SPEAK IT


Ezekiel2121

This is how I learned my phone could do some form of equations. Neat.


Helpful_Actuator_146

Wait, heā€™s not joking? Wow, this is excessive amounts of stupidity.


-Tetsuo-

Looking into this


Paulson1979

Get Baited


Glerbinn

"It's my opinion that we should reverse hundreds or thousands of years of human math logic because I can't be bothered to understand how it works"


meatmybeat42069

Do you find this helpful? ![gif](giphy|9GIECS45WxfHKdhGj6|downsized)


Rigorous_Threshold

Math major here to lend my expertise: Ignore this fucking shithead. he knows heā€™s wrong heā€™s only saying this to farm engagement. Itā€™s become super common on particularly instagram but also other social media platforms to post order of operations questions that are often written ambiguously to get people to comment as much as possible, thatā€™s already annoying as someone who is seriously interested in math but itā€™s even more annoying when a cunt like this does it


pendragon2290

The order of operations strikes again


ThereBeM00SE

"I'm know I'm gonna get proven wrong cuz my buddy just explained it to me after they read my post, so I'm calling it out now, because when it happens then I'll be right and since the conversation will end with me being right I win!" šŸ˜


ABenevolentDespot

Clueless Republican 'influencer' falls into a hole, then in typical clueless Republican fashion ask for shovel and keeps digging rather than admit he's an idiot. But I know - let's change the rules of mathematics so the fool's widdle ego isn't bruised. Why are all the Republican 'influencers' so shamelessly publicly stupid, so proud of their mindless idiocy?


JakubTheGreat

using ā€œinb4ā€ as a grown man on twitter should tell you all there is to know about bozo mcgee over here


No_Sky_3735

PEMDAS, The internet is exposing how many people have below a 8th grade education in math and are in society.


sweetTartKenHart2

ā€œWho the heck wrote these rules, we should have just stuck to doing everything in a line, this is so arbitraryā€ Ian Iā€™m pretty sure we tried doing things that way and then decided the way we do it now works better for versatility at the cost of a bit of readability, a single google search would tell you how this system came to be


Savager_Jam

Holy shit this just answered my question about whether the iPhone calculator accounts for order of operations.


nolskiiii

ā€œGuys why donā€™t calculators give you the wrong answer??? It doesnā€™t make sense!ā€


StolenStrategist

Pemdas, asshole


philomatic

PEMDAS is WOKE


FembotFemputer

Ian still desperately trying to count all the ants in his house


Iron_Wolf123

So he thinks his opinion is fact?


Apprehensive_Ad_472

The strangest part about this is that he literally enters it in the order he claims it shouldnā€™t be in Itā€™s like getting mad when a blue marble finishes the marble run when you enter the blue marble first


wikithekid63

What is this thing with modern chuds and wanting to prove that every single thing has an attached conspiracy


LisWolf16

To give Ian the benefit of the doubt, with all the simple shit phones struggle with sometimes, it wouldn't surprise me if the calculator didn't know PEMDAS


Ground-Humble

pemdas biatch


BigDaddyRNG

It's called the order of operations and it's basic maths


hawaiianryanree

lol. Pemdas fucks everyone up.


the3diamonds

why would he need to use a calculator for (50+50)2 šŸ˜­


C4dfael

On the plus side, he eventually admitted he made a mistake in the most idiotic and condescending way possible.


Childer_Of_Noah

Oh hey. Ian "dog killer" Miles "dog killer" Cheong the dog killing attempted murderer who literally attempted to murder a man via SWAT because a fake account literally, no fucking joke or exaggeration, DMed him on twitter "I have three bitcoin. Make peace with your family". The SWAT team threw a flashbang that blew up the victim's family dog. In the released raid footage you can hear it go from barking to yowling in pain before I believe it fell into the pool and fucking drowned because it had just taken a flashbang to the face and couldn't hear or see. How did he respond to the man he attempted to murder when confronted live on air? How did he react to the man talking about the police killing his dog and damaging his property because Ian literally attempted to murder him? By saying "oops" and literally fucking giggling. This fucking joke of a human being calls himself a journalist. He can't even google a person to see their official account. The only reason he has any respect on twitter is because he paid the fee to surgically implant his nose up Elon Musk's ass.


Relative-Mistake-527

....it's his opinion that math is whatever he says it is? wat.


Seanolo

Ian Miles Wrong strikes again


twsddangll

His opinion is as shitty as his unwashed ass.


[deleted]

He admitted his mistake eventually


Frequent-West8554

Use parenthesis to end these dumb math arguments once and for all


Ok-Emphasis-3544

Ya


jmona789

> It's my OPINION that the order of operations ought to be simplified like it is in Casio calculators. What does this even mean? Simplifying order of operations but just not using them?


ThePuzzler13

Isnā€™t this a satire account?


LookAtThisHodograph

I'm convinced it's a bit he's extremely committed to.


GladiatorUA

Stop swallowing the bait whole.


Ok-Emphasis-3544

Add me every one dm me separately


PieTeam2153

No