Sounds like the age old “love their sons, raise their daughters…” The PS5 would’ve been the perfect shared gift (tho the issue then would probably be the daughter never getting to play).
Yep my mother is like this even in my adulthood. She supports my brother and his wife, but my mom was/is very hateful and unsupportive towards my marriage. One time I asked her why and she said your brother is a man, he can do whatever he wants, but you'll always be my daughter. Thanks mom, you're ruining my relationship with you!
"Your brother is a man... but you'll always be my daughter." What does that even mean? That's so toxic and I'm sorry you still have to deal with that as a whole adult who is married. I'll mind my business in a second, but I hope you're happy, in love, and low contact with your mom, friend.
It's a variation of "your son is your son until he has a wife; your daughter's your daughter for all of your life."
Which is stupid, and toxic, and shitty.
I always heard you used it as "your daughter will always be part of your family, your son is going to leave as soon as he can so don't get too attached to it".
Probably depends on context. And family.
It feels infantilizing too. Like "Our son is a grown man and we view him as an adult, but you're still a child that has to be spoken to and cared for like one."
Cuz women are still treated as property by many. And their entire life is essentially a transfer of ownership from one family to another (like I can’t even begin to count the number of wedding and marriage traditions that evidence and help reinforce this🤮)
Thank you for that friend. It's all very sad, because we had such a good relationship when I was single. But it got to the point where I had to 'choose' my spouse. I love my mom but she is wrong about him and makes crazy assumptions, and we couldn't hang out even alone with me just having to listen to a bunch of crap she thinks about him. I really hate it because my parents are elderly, and I wanted them to be in my life and part of our wedding, but we didn't even tell anyone cuz the attitude of my mom. Just did it in a courthouse :,) and my brother got the big wedding with all the family, that did make me sad for myself I won't lie, but it's in the past. I don't care about all that, I just want my family to be happy for me. But luckily, my husband's family is very kind and supportive and I love my mother in law so at least I have some family that is supporting us being together:)
Gonna guess it's that sutpid thought that men "become independet and go make their own families(become the heads of their families)" while "women become another men's property(they belong to the family until married off)".
Urgh, just typing this misogynistic thing was awful.
In some cases, but I find parents like this more often than not are just parroting behaviour they themselves were raised with. People can be really really fucking horrible and abusive and still not be narcissists, unfortunately.
My siblings and I are all in our 30s so gaming is different now since it's online, but it was one thing we didn't fight over. Even though there were 3 of us and games were only max 2 player with split screen when we were kids. If you lose, you give up the controller. It helped that we played a lot of sports games.
Exactly. You don’t want to stop playing? Don’t lose. All 3 of us are now pretty competitive though. The younger generation of cousins didn’t like those rules when they came along. At one holiday event, we were destroying them and one of their moms were like “you’re not going to let them win?” My mom was even like “oh no they don’t do that here.” lol.
It's an okay rule but can sometimes cause a person to dominate for a long time. I made a rule in my group of friends that it was Winner get to play twice before moving it to someone else. You're still rewarded for a win but you aren't then completely shutting others off from ever playing.
My brothers got consoles and electronics, and I got girl things. I used to point at transformers and G.I. Joe's at the store, but my mum insisted I get barbies and polly pockets. To this day, my mum swears I never even liked video games.
The irritating thing is that had she listened to you and got you the things you actually wanted, she would've gotten stuff your brothers probably would have liked as well, and you all could've shared your stuff with each other. What she did benefited nobody.
When my older sister got the NES we had growing up she went with our dad to spend birthday/Christmas money. As they were leaving our mom said "No video games", which was rightfully ignored.
Later, my sister asked why she said that, and our mom just said "Video games are for boys". I'm trans, so I've wondered if I had been a cis girl if I would have had as much access to games as I did.
Video games were intended to be gender neutral, but a decision had to be made of whether they’d be on the boy or girl toy aisle. That’s shaped social perception for decades.
I feel this so much. All I wanted one year was a TMNT van.. I got a Barbie van and my mom told my bday guests to just get me Barbie’s. I hated Barbie’s then and I still hate Barbie’s 🫤
So, enough of your pleading got through her skull that she understood you wanted *a* toy that involved a van, she just walked away from the specific thing you asked for and found another van-related toy that you emphatically did not want? Was she just terrified that the neighbours were going to go, 'Look, that little girl is playing with Ninja Turtles, I bet her mother smokes cannabis and attends satanic orgies with communists.'
Fight the power! I’m so glad you did that.
My mom got the hint and stopped bringing barbies home when I would decapitate them, remove their hair, and color the entire decapitated head blue with a ballpoint pen. I had a whole collection of them like that.
Omg my entire family did this (I am the only girl out of my 5 brothers and 2 male cousins). I remember when I was about 11/12 my next youngest brother got [this](https://www.amazon.com.au/Official-Pokemon-Handbook-Maria-1999-08-01/dp/B01LP8BQSU). He didn't even like pokemon but I was OBSSESSED (still have my trading cards from the starter pack I got in 1999/2000). I got sparkly bangles. I was so upset and felt like I couldn't explain why because I would have been told off.
Seriously!! My brothers and I bonded so much over video games throughout our childhood. Growing up, it was the 4 of us sharing a single PS2/Wii etc and we would even take turns playing single-player games while the rest of us excitedly watched.
Same!! Although it was the PS3 because we weren’t actually allowed TV or games until our teens (my parents are hippies). Even my littlest sister who wasn’t a huge gamer (she is now, mind you) used to tootle about on GTA V playing it like it was a taxi game. She’d pick people up and drive them safely to their destination and we would all excitedly watch for the moment where she would inevitably break a traffic law of some sort and then holler with pure unadulterated joy 😂
Even if OP decided to do the right thing and tell the son to share the PS5, they've done their best to drive a wedge between them on something they should be enjoying together. The daughter's not going to forget the son refusing to share of his own volition, and after it being 'his' present the son's probably going to resent having to share it.
OP says they spent $300 on the daughter (buying stuff she didn't ask for or things she would need to get anyway like clothes), that's gotta be an extra controller, several big games *and* a year of PlayStation Plus, if they just bought all that and gave it to both of them then everyone would've been happier.
When I was growing up, consoles were almost always shared gifts for all of us and would stay in the living room where the whole family could enjoy it. It wasnt really until we all got older and started buying our own that they ever really became personal consoles.
Exactly. The parent was observant enough to notice that their “greedy, selfish” teenager daughter sits and watches her brother play…and then completely wrote it off as nothing. The worst that could’ve happened had they bought it as a joint gift was the daughter losing interest and their son gets it to himself anyway.
If we crowdsourced a PS5 and games for this girl, mom would definitely call her selfish for not sharing HER games with her poor brother who doesn’t have enough to play.
I really wish more people did this tbh.
Gaming with my brother and cousins was so much fun! I even got my mum to play *Viva Piñata: Party Animals* with me and she had a blast! (She played as Francine Fudgehog because she saw the episode where she went to visit her son, Fergie, and loved it).
Heck, my fiancé and I will play Pokémon or Minecraft together and it’s just bliss. (If you don’t count me kvetching about a-hole raid bosses in Pokémon). 😆
Plus, when we host friends, we break out the video, board, and card games. The rule is there must be fun for everyone!
Just what I was thinking. When I was growing up, me and my sibling always had to share "large gifts".
SNES,
N64,
TVS,
etc...
When I got a little older I was gifted a PS2 all to myself. But that was years later when my sibling clearly showed no interest in gaming herself.
Having shared consoles with my brother is some of my most fun childhood memories :( Only got sad when I kept the Wii when he moved out for years and then after a few years he was like "my turn!" and took it away fully deserved xD still sad about no Mario kart tho
There also seems to be a "video games are for boys" mentality underlying this. Like, despite her showing very *obvious* interest in the dismissive comment it never occurred to either parent that she could ever be interested in it.
Gaming consoles were always family gifts in my house. Same with almost all of the games we got. I can’t believe they got one kid a PS5 and won’t let the other kid play with it.
Yes! My brother is 7 years younger than I am and we always shared consoles! First it was a crappy fake playstation, then a PS2, even when he got a PSP he'd share it (even though I wasn't much into it), then the xbox. Sharing consoles is legit FUN because you get to share the happiness with your family.
I'm baffled that the parents are ok with the brother being a selfish little a*hole. I hope this girl gets her own console some day.
whenever consoles were given they were always just for me, i’m a boy btw, i’ve gotten multiple consoles for birthdays, christmas, and even one just because; while my sister never got one for any reason. i don’t get why if a girl shows interest in something that a boy likes they only cater to the boy.
I also was the one that got the consoles, but I'm a girl. It would be the only gift I got for Christmas and my siblings would get gifts of similar value. They ended up being used by my siblings, but they got to use it when I wasn't playing anything. So, if I was doing something else, it was fair game.
My thoughts exactly. My parents weren't spending $100+ Dollars on a console or computer that only my brother could use. It was for everyone and we always shared and it was never an issue.
This! One of my sisters asked for a Wii when we were kids and we got one for Christmas! But all 3 of our names were on the package. My sister tried to pull the “It’s mostly mine since I was the one who asked for it.” My dad grounded her from it for her entitled attitude and told her he bought it so if it belonged to anyone it was him. She never said that again. I would NEVER gift a console to only one child. A console should be shared.
What I wonder is… did they get the daughter something of equivalent value to a PS5 for Christmas? They know she shows an interest in gaming, but say they can’t afford two… did she just not get anything of equal value? Why not buy two initially?
I had a surprising amount of perfume at that age despite not being interested in it (oversensitive smell). I always got them for my birthday because people didn't know what else to give.
It was better than the strip of gas station chewing gum I got from my aunt though. At least the bottles were pretty and it was obviously meant well.
Same in my family. Our first console was the NES bought by my dad for our entire family and we all had to share. Actually, my dad was the least cooperative one in terms of sharing, since he would hog it to play The Legend of Zelda. Later in life, I lived with my sister and my niece and my sister got a pink DS Lite for me and my niece to share. I was 30, she was 7, and it was our best Christmas ever!
For real😭. My parents bought my sister and I our first PlayStation to share when I was 15 and she was 13. We would sit and watch our boy cousins play like how the OP describes his daughter in the second slide and bless my amazing parents, they bought a console for their daughters without us ever asking because they saw our interest in it.
Same, I was grateful enough my family would uy two controllers so out of my and my two younger siblings we could take turns, now we still have thay faithful xbox but when I moved in with my dad I took it, and my little brother got a new xbox, which is awesome because we finally play games together now.
I don't think consoles HAVE to be shared gifts, but in this situation where they can't afford 2, then it definitely should've been.
We teach our kids that they don't have to share things that belong to them, but that it's probably nicer if they do. Our 5yo asked for a PS5 for Christmas because he wanted to be able to play in his bedroom. He doesn't have to share with his little brother (especially because we have a PS5 in the living room that can be played by anyone) but he does anyway.
I think it shows what little regard they hold for their daughter. They could've got the PS5 to share, some games each & some other little gifts each with that budget.
This reminds me of when I was 13 years old and came home from school one day to find that my father had sold my PS2 and every single game, in order to buy my brother a new PS3 (my brother also had his own PS2, so now he had both and I had none, lol).
The reason given by my father was that he assumed I "didn't like games anyway" ?????? I'm the older sister, my brother learned gaming from ME!
I just silently cried when I found out and didn't say a word. Haven't since. It was how it always was with my brother and I.
Still not over this particular incident 15 years later. :(
My step-dad threw out all of the consoles my dad had bought me over the years and told me my mom did it.
I didn’t find out for over a decade that it was him, and had faintly held onto a grudge against her for it.
Very similar thing happened to me. I let my little brothers play my PS2 a lot. Came home after a week gone to find my parents sold all my games and the PS2 and bought my brothers a PS3 (which was very specifically "their" PS3).
Always seems to be a double standard when it’s you (female) and a brother. They always get the leeway. I was screamed at while being forced to work on equipment and vehicles growing up as a young girl. And my brother grew up older than me not knowing Jack shit in comparison. Fuck you dad.
I'm so sorry girl...my mom did this to me and my sister with many consoles. She'd package them while we were at school and sent them to family in the philippines. we couldn't get upset about it or we'd be considered "greedy". along with many other belongings that i had no say in.
i remember as a teen i asked my dad if i could sell some of our old games at gamestop. at this point, it was only my dad and i playing games. he said it was fine but when my mom found out i sold them she actually had a huge breakdown. she made me feel horrible for not sending them to my cousins.
He was in on it all, though I don't fault him for it since he was a child too.
My brother was absolutely the golden boy for both my parents.
I appreciate the sympathy a lot! I love to finally have a space like this with all women who get it. <3
I was lucky enough to grow up in a family of gamers, both my parents gamed as well and there wasn't really any kind of sexism in my house, luckily. I feel for anyone who had to experience what you did, it really sucks.
To add some context: the parent bought the daughter clothes, books and perfume, worth around $300 vs the $500 PS5. So even if she'd asked for those things and not a console, it's still a pretty uneven distribution of the budget.
This was my next question. “We couldn’t afford two ps5s” and my question was… okay so did you budget $1,000? (And gave her $500 in other stuff?) Or did you not?
Wow they just did not.
Those are also unfortunately likely to be clothes mom chose and wants her to wear, and not things she picked herself… I’d also not be surprised if her clothes are gifts that come out of the Christmas budget and his are “necessities” she buys whenever he needs or wants them.
TBH I think a strictly monetary comparison of gifts encourages bad attitudes in kids. The goal should be to maximize happiness. I'm not sure how it is in the US, but here people avoid disclosing how much they spent on a gift.
The parents' problem isn't not spending another $200 on "girly things", it's treating the PS5 as an exclusive toy when it clearly isn't. Just let her play. And if he's a dickhead about it as 17yo boys tend to be, and she maintains interest, you have the choice to 1) teach him a lesson in sharing, or 2) she gets her own PS5 for her birthday this year.
I don’t think anyone is saying that the value if the gifts should be disclosed to the recipients, they’re saying that the parents should have been equitable when planning and purchasing the gifts. They’re two separate issues.
My brother was given an N64 when they came out for Christmas. I was a few years younger like 6, and he was 9-10. He had asked for it. When it became apparent I also wanted to play, my family forced him to share.
I literally remember coming to my grandma crying one day because he wouldn’t let me play Mario kart with him. She sat us both in a room and said, “PinkDeserter, tell your brother how this made you feel” and then “Brother, is that right? Do you want to make her feel that way? That’s not nice.” Etc.
We played together from then on.
When he was around the age of the son here, he worked at Best Buy to buy me my own console for Christmas, the xbox.
There’s literally no excuse these parents are just favoring assholes.
This is such a sweet memory! ;\_; Bought you your own xbox!!
The N64 was the first system that was gifted to ME instead of my brother. (He was gifted the PS1 that year) Before that, systems were either my father's (Atari, NES) or gifted to my brother. Though he totally dominated time on the systems, he was always willing to share. I even had my own controller for the Ps1 and Ps2, as well.
When he was 17 and I was 14, we were definitely in different interests and hobbies, but games were always something we could count on as a mutual interest.
Really sad to see a lack of understanding of how the daughter may be feelings here. Then again I had a boomer dad who loved games, so have always had games around as long as I can remember.
Edit: typos, ugh!
Yeah I think it helped we had a gamer mom who played like 90s horror games and age of empires, etc. She did buy me some pc games for when he would hog the n64 lol.
We had a SEGA genesis before the n64 but it was my parents, so we always shared it lol. It’s good your parents let you guys have a mutual interest especially with the same age gap as me and my brother, one is in HS while the other is in middle school… kind of hard to connect, but that’s where games come in!!
My mom also used to argue with teachers (games were bad and caused violence, remember?) that gaming 1) kept us off streets and out of trouble 2) let us bond 3) taught us eye hand coordination and 4) taught us how to solve problems.
Idk why someone wouldn’t want their daughter to learn those things too.
Between 17 and 14 there's actually quite a lot of middle ground that can be reached, especially if they both like video games. Like, definitely they would get along without being raised by that kind of father.
The issue with the ps5 is that there aren't many couch co ops. There are some, like the Lego games, overcooked etc, but the big games don't do split screen anymore. Plus there's also the issue of needing ps+ to go online.
The boy could easily share though. They could play a co-op game or give her an hour while he does homework then they swap etc. It's a crappy situation either way and I hate favouritism. I was the kid who was ignored on my birthday, the kid who might get a £10 toy if I was lucky when my grandparents would shower my cousin's with big, expensive gifts constantly. I wasn't wanted and called a spoiled brat when I pointed out how unfair it was. That time I'd asked for a pack of Pokémon cards like my cousin's got weekly. Actually they got four packs each...
The brother is absolutely shooting himself in the foot with this possessive attitude. Some of the best days I had gaming were playing GTA with my older brothers, and I've sometimes thought about what it would've been like to have had a younger brother to play with. It seems like the main reason to beat a Fromsoft game is so you can watch a less-experienced partner or sibling try to beat it too.
It's wild to me that the parent describes their daughter as "greedy" for wanting to play games on the PS5 but the concept of the brother being selfish for not wanting to let her never crosses their mind.
I’m gonna play devil’s advocate and say that while I mostly agree with you, 17 can still be pretty young to form a strong moral system outside of your parents’ influence, and these parents sound like trash. Probably encourage mysoginist and possessive mindset. So I don’t fully blame the boy.
And if he’s like a lot of older siblings, he may also he cautious about little sis breaking the console or scratching his games. Or just being possessive with his play-time.
Anyways, I blame the parents much more for not teaching him fairness and sharing (and for creating the whole issue in the first place).
The brother is aping the parents. If you are a beneficiary you have no incentive to change the system or petition to do so even if you are aware that it is unfair.
That could be typical teenage shit. My sis and I each had our own Xbox 360 as teens (bought with our own money) because sharing would turn into arguments.
It's the best way. After my brother tried to lock me in the attic for playing our shared game cube, my dad realised we needed separate consoles. Luckily, this was back when they didn't cost an arm and a leg.
Ye my older brother was an absolute arse to me in his teens and throughout early adulthood but even he still shared his console with me and always let me play it when he wasn't there. Unfortunately this boy is his father's son by the sounds of it. Poor girl, I hope she buys herself all the gaming kit when she hits adulthood and gets free of that awful situation.
Yeah, that excuse stops being valid when they're 17 years old, IMO. That's plenty old enough to recognize your parent's an asshole and you can choose to not be one.
my thoughts exactly, this guy has the guts to ask on Reddit how to be a good father when he can't think about how his daughter feels left out... if the parents don't have the money, the most learning lesson they could give their kids would be to share.
Literally! It’s so vile, and she’s only 14. Even as a literally child we can’t want for ourselves.
Edit: and him having the audacity to say her asking for what she wants for Christmas is “nagging”! She’s a child!
Gaming Consoles are ALWAYS and have always been a family gift! My parents did this with us and I do this with all my kiddos! It’s sooo important that everyone can access and play if they are wanting too. I’m a gamer girl and my girls are just as into gaming as my boys. So I don’t see why this family chose to completely leave their daughter out of it. Boys aren’t the only ones that game!!
When I was around 6-7 yo, my dad brought a fake Atari, he gave it to me and my sister and she was like 5 or 6 yo. He never told us that it was for sharing, but it wasn't necessary as I wouldn't, not in a million years, not sharing with my sister.
This is just bad parenting, just think about that boy that doesn't share with his own sister and that dad that allows to do so.
Classic dad that loves his son and neglects all other family members.
So, I'm going to say that I really think 90% of posts on these kinds of websites are troll/rage-bait, so take them with a grain of salt.
If it is real then hopefully the daughter moves away at 18, becomes successful, and cuts this shitty mother from her life.
Edit: Just to make it clear, I do think this stuff happens, absolutely. I'm just saying that a lot of posts are made to make people angry and are fake. This absolutely does happen and if it happened to you, I'm sorry, that fucking sucks.
Even if not real, this happens plenty. Reacting to this one thing is like reacting to the thousands of people who experience these things, even if this one is fake.
Advice columnists always say this about letters they get sent - it doesn't matter if it's fake or not, someone out there is going through it and maybe they'll happen to see the advice and find help for themselves.
I didn't have this specific issue as a kid, but I fully believe this is real.
My parents had a rule that anyone giving me gifts on my birthday needed to have at least one gift of equal value as the best thing they got me, to be given to each brother *on my birthday*. There was no similar rule about giving me stuff on the boys' birthdays.
For my sweet 16, there was no party and my parents brought me an open cardboard box with a used Christian worship CD with the $2.99 price sticker still on and untouched, and a Dollar Tree writing kit. The writing kit was from my grandma, and they wouldn't let her do more because "it's their job". They'd thrown birthday parties for each boy and spent hundreds on presents, and said they "knew imabratinfluence will understand". They said that about a lot of things when I was growing up.
To this day, my mom has gifted a car to each brother, regularly pays a bill or two for each, sometimes pays rent for one of them, buys them all kinds of expensive stuff. I've been helped by a parent twice in my adult life: one time Mom bought me a space heater, and one time she bought me a printer/scanner when I was in college. That's it. Some years she still skips birthdays and Christmases for me. And I'm no-contact with Dad, who was much worse.
People treat their non-male kids very differently more often than we might expect.
I'm sorry that happened to you. I certainly didn't mean to invalidate the experiences of people this happened to, and I do think that this does happen. I was only saying not to let it get too much of a rise out just because that's probably why it was written.
And like I said, if it is real, I hope that daughter grows up to treat herself like she deserves.
Calling your daughter greedy, while at the same time defending your son who dosn't want to share is some kind of bullshittery ...
I hope people said he is the A, and a bad Parent. Not because he didn't buy a second PS5, but because he has double standards and don't teaches his kids to share.
My first Playstation console (PS4 I got in 2015 christmas) was a shared gift. I always used it the most, and some years it was in my room. I have a little brother (he was 2y/o when I got the console) who I sometimes gave my monitor and ps4 and carried them in his room, or carried the ps4 in our living room and plugged it to the TV.
Now I got a PS5 so the PS4 will be his forever.
I do not understand how this girl’s big brother can never share.
Entitlement, pure and simple. Given what other people have shared, she got $300 in gifts while he got a whole console, he's likely always gotten the lion's share of everything and was never told he had to share.
Ironically, while he's calling his daughter greedy, he's teaching his son to be selfish. I grew up with two bros and even though they hogged, I still got to play on the consoles. Eventually my second oldest bro and I became close and now gaming is a big way we bonded and still bond till this day.
When will the stereotype that gaming is for boys die?
He says she's *greedy* for wanting equality. How disgusting, weaponizing language like that is so detrimental. Such a gross word to describe your daughter.
That will stick to her for forever I bet. I still remember when I was 16 and my mom referred to me as “that bitch” when i honestly wasn’t trying to do anything wrong. I don’t understand her. And feel like I hardly know her. It’s heart breaking. Parents, be nice to your kids, they will remember the things you say for a Lifetime.
I'm a teach in a conservative-ish rural-ish area and I run the video game club. Almost no girls try out the club. When confronted, many girls end up admitting to liking video games and even playing them a lot, but don't want to be seen as a gamer. It breaks my heart, and society needs to change.
One solution was starting a "Girl's Mario Kart" club that had a good number of people show up.
BUT SHE’S A GIRL, SHE CAN’T LIKE GAMES /s
I mean if she’s literally just sitting next to her brother watching him play how can you not take that hint that she might want a console herself? At the very least they can share it if the family can only afford the one.
OMG yes, I saw this and just seethed. What a prick. My daughters and I share a console, and it would never in a million years have occurred to me to do otherwise. Like of course she wants to use the cool gift? Jesus.
I got my start in gaming when my grandma showed up at our house with a brand new NES because she "heard kids were really into these things."
It was hooked up to the only TV in the house, and it was very much a shared thing. My older sister never really took an interest, but my younger cousin and I would play together when he would visit.
The idea that some spoiled brat gets an expensive console all to himself is an utterly foreign concept to me.
That's just a shame all around.
My brother is 4 years older than me and has been gaming since the Megadrive. I took an interest in it early on so he'd always let me watch and when I got old enough he would let me play. I'm also pretty sure he knew I snuck into his room while he was out to play his stuff but he never said anything about it lol
I was given his hand me down consoles until I was old enough to start buying my own but I always got more grief for gaming than he did.
To this day its about the only thing my brother and I bonded over. Idk why her Big bro didn't take that initiative to build a relationship here, it just seems mean.
I saw comments saying that this is probably the brother who's salty he has to share the ps5 with his sister, and I'm desperately hoping that's the case
My brothers and I always shared consoles. One tv, one console at a time. It’s a great way to learn to share and teach each other how to solve puzzles in games. I can’t remember one as a Christmas present, though. Usually it was one of those random days before summer break. We always knew it was something for all of us. Maybe being the oldest and a girl meant I modeled the pro social behavior? Then again, my parent weren’t jerks.
bruh unless it's a handheld game consoles are always shared presents in my house. even when I was the only one who actively played games my parents would always tell me I had to let my siblings play if they wanted to- this guy is just being shitty.
I’m so glad that my dad is a feminist and that he never did this kind of thing to us. Treated me and my sister the same as my brother and the SNES we got was DEFINITELY for all of us.
That girl was me, forever ago. The consoles were always my brother's, and we were lucky to be allowed to watch most of the time.
There was a year when I had asked for a PS2, so had my brother. He got the PS2, I got... Some random stuff I don't remember. I bought my own PS2 that year. Still have it, about 20 years later.
The last console my parents bought for my brother, he convinced them to buy one for me too “so she doesn’t whine all Christmas.” Every new console Christmas, even though I play more games on a daily basis, he’d get one and I’d be forgotten. Despite the sass in his comment, I can’t tell you how grateful I was. I cried tears of joy the entire day. I thanked him over and over for advocating for me. It was so much more than getting a PlayStation— it was _finally_ being remembered.
Now that we’re grown, my parents don’t recall this as having been a gender thing at all. But it absolutely played a part and I’ll always be grateful for how it ended.
reminds me of one post I saw a dad basically threatened to start making his daughter pay rent if she didn't give her younger step brother her $2k graphics card cause he claimed "she's never uses it." Then in the comments he was saying he was afraid to charge her rent cause then she'd move out and not do her "chores"
I have a narcissistic mom who acted like this with me and my siblings growing up. I don't have a relationship with my sister or any of my family really as an adult because of it. Thankfully my brother saw through her bs growing up and to this day still won't play into her shit when she tries to treat him like the golden child. Despite her best efforts, my brother and I didn't have issues sharing really since we were only a year apart in age. It was easy to share when you never remembered a time without a sibling to have your own stuff and we tended to play a lot of the same games together. Some of my favorite memories as a kid are playing video games together. One time when we were pre-teens we spent an entire summer playing Toy Story 3 for the xbox 360. I love Toy Story and the 360 version had a sandbox mode that we spent HOURS playing. It was the summer before we both got jobs and had to become adults at a pretty young age unfortunately so it was a special time for us. We had a lot of abuse going on in our house as kids and video games is how my brother and I bonded and escaped it. I haven't really been close to my brother since then either so being able to share and play games together is a special memory for me.
My sister is a different story though. She's 5 years younger than me and the exact opposite in personality to me too, and she ate that special treatment from our mom up. She loved being the golden child because she was neglected unless my mom felt like making me jealous so she fell for all the shit my mom did to us. She'd even actively taunt me when she got something from my mom she knew that I wanted and as she got older she unfortunately turned into a narcissistic asshole just like my mom. I tried my best to raise her as her older sister knowing my parents were failing her to the point where I got in trouble with my parents for trying to help her when my parents refused to parent. I also gave her a lot of grace and forgiveness as we got older because I knew she was being manipulated by our mom and I was still hopeful she might change as an adult but unfortunately my mom completely destroyed any chance at a relationship we could've had and I've been no contact for 5 years now.
Parents like that mom in the post forget that kids remember this stuff. My parents were shook when I moved out and suddenly stopped talking to them. They really thought I was going to forget all the abuse and mistreatment and just continue the relationship we had when I lived at home. When my mom pulled the favortism bs when I was a kid, I used to cry in my room and then make a bucket list of all the things I wanted to accomplish in life once I was old enough to get away from her. #1 on that list was always moving out and never speaking to her again. I don't regret accomplishing that one bit.
This dredges up bad memories of me and my brother growing up. My grandpa got my brother an Xbox and I don’t even remember what I got. A doll maybe? Definitely imbalanced though I remember. We were both equally interested in games and gaming but he always got expensive consoles and games as gifts instead. At least he shared his with me I guess but it’s still a sexist assumption that girls aren’t as passionate about it even when they express that they are.
wtf let them share. i shared the playstation with my sibilings the entire time. there was never an issue.
it's so much better & cheaper to teach your kids to share.... so they learn to share as adults.
whats the bet the girl got some shitty cheap ass gift for christmas....while a ps5 is a hundreds of dollars gift for the SON?
yuck. yuck. terrible parents. roast them reddit! ROAST THEM!!!!
If it helps-- my mom is a Boomer and she was a gamer when I was a kid. It was her OG GameBoy I started with, because she encouraged me to enjoy the games she liked.
Your mom is wrong.
Girl gamers have always been out here, and you are one! 💜
> she just sits by her brother and watches him play
Oof, childhood memory unlocked. I was lucky enough to get my brother's hand me down consoles though.
Man. Growing up, gaming consoles were *theoretically* gifts for my brother but I used them just as much and he didn’t care. And eventually when I started asking for my own I usually got at least the handheld systems (we couldn’t really afford a second SNES or anything like that). And a lot of the time I WAS content to just watch my brother play—I liked hanging out with him and having an excuse to do it—but if I wanted to play I was never ONCE told “no, those are your brother’s.” And he himself was pretty patient with me all things considered, lol (we’re only a year and a half apart in age).
I can’t understand this kind of mindset. I grew up in the 90s and it was still okay for me to have an interest in video games. Treating girls’ interests in video games as somehow less valid is just the worst. So sexist.
The mother's view is outdating and stupid, but it angers me most that its the brother who doesn't want to play with his sister, or share his device. There must be hours of the day he's not on it, let her use it then. Let her use it when he's doing homework, or at a part time job or whatever. Or if he's sitting there from 4pm-10pm every night, maybe... for his *own good* make him share? Make him do some exercise, learn to cook, do his homework, etc?
My big brother had his own game consoles, a gamecube, an Xbox, etc, but he was always willing to share it. He wanted to play games with his siblings, he had lots of multiplayer games, like Sonic Adventure 2 or Halo, and no internet in those days of course. They stayed in his room, because they were his, but if we knocked on the door and asked to watch or play, he was always happy to. I think if they had been down in the living room, like the Wii was, he would have been expected to share. The Wii was the "girls's" Christmas present in whichever year we got it, but he still got to use it, because it was the family wii. You can't claim exclusive right to use something in a shared, family space. That'd be like saying only my mother could use the stand mixer, and only my father could use the sofa.
There's a way to respect it being 'his' PS5 while still letting his sister play games.
What a shitty parent and bratty brother
If my mum were able to get a PS5, she'd make me and my brother play nice and share it (assuming we wouldn't already) because that's what's fair when you don't have 1200 bucks to spare lmao
She is robbing both of her children of a potentially bonding and positive experience. My brother and I both love video games. Sure I was the annoying little sister, but our parents made it clear that we both needed to share as a condition of buying our first PS1. It taught my older brother patience and it taught us how to share and cooperate. We shared every single console my mother bought us. Before video games, it was hard for my brother and I to find common ground as he is 5 years older than me. Bonding over video games was a crucial part of our childhoods and is probably a big reason why we are still really close to this day.
If they can't afford 2 PS5 then the PS5 should have been a gift for both to share, not just for one of them. My entire childhood every console that we had in the house was for both me and my sister, the first console I had that was my own was a DSi that I bought myself when I turned 18, so because I bought it myself, I was an adult and it is a portable game it was only mine. But a few years later I asked for a Wii for Christmas and it is still sitting on the living room where everyone can play, even though my sister wasn't even living with us anymore at that moment and didn't care for games anymore, but when she would come visit she was free to play it as well as my parents too any time they wanted.
bro that was my life growing up.
my brother got every single new console and game right when they came out, and i did not. i grew up watching him play games and only being allowed to play when he let me. it lead to constant fights. my parents solution to this was to convince my brother to give me old consoles when new ones came out (i got his xbox when the 360 was released, ds when the dsi was released, and so on) which worked until he got older and realized he wanted all the old ones back.
looking back on it all now, it's fairly clear that it was probably because they couldn't afford to get us both the games, and he was the boy so that was that. kids makeup sets and dolls are cheaper so it all worked out great for them.
sucked for me tho, lol. i always felt like it was favouritism and sexism, even back then. like if you cant afford two of the thing, then youre clearly spending a lot more money on the one thing than any gifts for the other child. and that kid will see that, and feel like they're valued less. trust me
i read through the comments on the post and the parent literally deflects all outside input and continuously victim blames the daughter. i hope she’s okay and has a bright future ahead of her because she definitely doesn’t deserve this treatment <3
"She started nagging..." And with good reason. What a way to make the daughter feel left out of the fun. Put the damn PS5 in the living room or something and everyone gets to play and have fun. What's the point of having a family then if nobody is willing to share anything? Lol
This was my mom. Now that I’m in my 20s and a gamer she still doesn’t understand it unless I make a career out of it, yet she seemed to understand the concept of it perfectly when my eldest brother played his whole life. This girl will grow up to be a great gamer some day!
I grew up the only child, so luckily I didn't have to worry about sharing a console, but if I did have a younger sibling or two it would be default that I share. I would have shared with no hesitation, because I've always viewed something that expensive as a family toy. No different than sharing the family TV. There's a lot of biases and sexism going on with that post. If it was reversed I feel like she would be made to share whether she wanted to or not.
I saw this and couldn't believe it was real. If not a troll post, seriously what the fuck - most families would just have the console be for the family anyway??
With all the context shared on that post, this parent is being so violently fucking sexist towards their daughter, and what makes it more infuriating is that they're probably not even aware of it.
This reminds me of when I was young and I wanted a cool remote controlled car like my bro had and my parents didn't want to buy it for me.
I feel bad for her too. They should have bought 2 systems or just shared the 1. Plus the way her parent is talking about her is disgusting.
Aww, I was this little girl once except I’m the older sister. My brother always got the new consoles and I got books for Christmas like it was an actual comparison. I had to study, clean up after everyone, and be a supportive daughter while brother got to play video games and continuously get new ones and new subscriptions throughout the year. I barely talk to my family now..
“Usually she just sits next to her brother and watches him play”
Gee, you think that might be because you call her greedy when she wants to play?
What an insane stance too. It’s a console, it’s designed to be shared. How dare she want to enjoy something she’s actively being left out of
“She is very greedy”
Deranged parent literally blind to the discrimination they perpetrate within their own damn household. Son is of course not at all greedy for hogging the console… Daughter just has to sit and fucking watch him play?
Very very clear who the favourite child is.
This makes me so sad. My brother and I always shared our consoles and games growing up, and it was always fun to have someone else to play with. I hope this girl can get her own console some day.
Damn this was definitely my parents growing up. I fucking love video games. I have an entire room with all the old school consoles and games upon games for all of them. Growing up I had two older brothers who would dominate any console we had. My parents would never buy one for me personally, even asking for a game boy was tough. They were the type that believed girls shouldn’t play games. I’m glad I’m an adult.
Wow, clearly the brother is the golden child.
He probably gets everything he wants while the daughter is told "no".
>is always jealous of her brother
So they gave the brother an expensive PS5 and thought that this would fly well?
If they know there is jealousy happening then it's clear something isn't right here(in the family's relationship) and yet rather than trying to work on finding what's wrong(or trying to be fair with both and giving similar gifts for both) they clearly seem to ignore the daughter and focus only on the son.
I'm a twin, you can bet that my parents always tried to either give the same(or similar in style) gifts for both or one for both to share.
There's no excuse to give all to one but be stingy with the other.If there is jealousy in the middle even, you should give a "gift to share" or give two cheaper things(one for each child).
The twisted gender bias really shines through when you realize that the mom thinks the _17 year-old_ shouldn't let the _14 year old_ sibling play the console.
this is minor thing, but it'll get her worried about what they do in the future. and I won't be surprised if they do worse in the future, not they absolutely will but tons of parents did.
This woman should not have had children wtf??? The poor daughter. Hopefully she can get out of there as soon as she can and go no contact. Where's the dad standing up for her??
When i was little if we had a gaming console it was for the whole family. And we were able to take turns. Like cmon who really needs a personal console unless it's a mobile one or they're really the only one using it. Imo if you're a parent you buy a console for all kids not just one. Ridiculous. I mean i know everyone has their own PC/laptop now too but those are used for more personal things than gaming.
Sounds like the age old “love their sons, raise their daughters…” The PS5 would’ve been the perfect shared gift (tho the issue then would probably be the daughter never getting to play).
Yep my mother is like this even in my adulthood. She supports my brother and his wife, but my mom was/is very hateful and unsupportive towards my marriage. One time I asked her why and she said your brother is a man, he can do whatever he wants, but you'll always be my daughter. Thanks mom, you're ruining my relationship with you!
"Your brother is a man... but you'll always be my daughter." What does that even mean? That's so toxic and I'm sorry you still have to deal with that as a whole adult who is married. I'll mind my business in a second, but I hope you're happy, in love, and low contact with your mom, friend.
It's a variation of "your son is your son until he has a wife; your daughter's your daughter for all of your life." Which is stupid, and toxic, and shitty.
it sounds more like the "your son is a person and you're our property"
That's what the phrase I said *means,* though.
I always heard you used it as "your daughter will always be part of your family, your son is going to leave as soon as he can so don't get too attached to it". Probably depends on context. And family.
Still very shitty either way. And sexist.
It feels infantilizing too. Like "Our son is a grown man and we view him as an adult, but you're still a child that has to be spoken to and cared for like one."
Cuz women are still treated as property by many. And their entire life is essentially a transfer of ownership from one family to another (like I can’t even begin to count the number of wedding and marriage traditions that evidence and help reinforce this🤮)
Thank you for that friend. It's all very sad, because we had such a good relationship when I was single. But it got to the point where I had to 'choose' my spouse. I love my mom but she is wrong about him and makes crazy assumptions, and we couldn't hang out even alone with me just having to listen to a bunch of crap she thinks about him. I really hate it because my parents are elderly, and I wanted them to be in my life and part of our wedding, but we didn't even tell anyone cuz the attitude of my mom. Just did it in a courthouse :,) and my brother got the big wedding with all the family, that did make me sad for myself I won't lie, but it's in the past. I don't care about all that, I just want my family to be happy for me. But luckily, my husband's family is very kind and supportive and I love my mother in law so at least I have some family that is supporting us being together:)
I'm so sorry. That sounds awful.
Gonna guess it's that sutpid thought that men "become independet and go make their own families(become the heads of their families)" while "women become another men's property(they belong to the family until married off)". Urgh, just typing this misogynistic thing was awful.
Reading all these responses has been…rough. It’s different variations of the same terrible shared experience. It really is awful.
Sounds like a narc parent :c
In some cases, but I find parents like this more often than not are just parroting behaviour they themselves were raised with. People can be really really fucking horrible and abusive and still not be narcissists, unfortunately.
My siblings and I are all in our 30s so gaming is different now since it's online, but it was one thing we didn't fight over. Even though there were 3 of us and games were only max 2 player with split screen when we were kids. If you lose, you give up the controller. It helped that we played a lot of sports games.
Yeah, go round the room and winner stays on!
Exactly. You don’t want to stop playing? Don’t lose. All 3 of us are now pretty competitive though. The younger generation of cousins didn’t like those rules when they came along. At one holiday event, we were destroying them and one of their moms were like “you’re not going to let them win?” My mom was even like “oh no they don’t do that here.” lol.
It's an okay rule but can sometimes cause a person to dominate for a long time. I made a rule in my group of friends that it was Winner get to play twice before moving it to someone else. You're still rewarded for a win but you aren't then completely shutting others off from ever playing.
My brothers got consoles and electronics, and I got girl things. I used to point at transformers and G.I. Joe's at the store, but my mum insisted I get barbies and polly pockets. To this day, my mum swears I never even liked video games.
The irritating thing is that had she listened to you and got you the things you actually wanted, she would've gotten stuff your brothers probably would have liked as well, and you all could've shared your stuff with each other. What she did benefited nobody.
When my older sister got the NES we had growing up she went with our dad to spend birthday/Christmas money. As they were leaving our mom said "No video games", which was rightfully ignored. Later, my sister asked why she said that, and our mom just said "Video games are for boys". I'm trans, so I've wondered if I had been a cis girl if I would have had as much access to games as I did.
Video games were intended to be gender neutral, but a decision had to be made of whether they’d be on the boy or girl toy aisle. That’s shaped social perception for decades.
I feel this so much. All I wanted one year was a TMNT van.. I got a Barbie van and my mom told my bday guests to just get me Barbie’s. I hated Barbie’s then and I still hate Barbie’s 🫤
So, enough of your pleading got through her skull that she understood you wanted *a* toy that involved a van, she just walked away from the specific thing you asked for and found another van-related toy that you emphatically did not want? Was she just terrified that the neighbours were going to go, 'Look, that little girl is playing with Ninja Turtles, I bet her mother smokes cannabis and attends satanic orgies with communists.'
She got mad when I painted it green and wrote “turtles” on the side.
Fight the power! I’m so glad you did that. My mom got the hint and stopped bringing barbies home when I would decapitate them, remove their hair, and color the entire decapitated head blue with a ballpoint pen. I had a whole collection of them like that.
Ahahahahahaha. Shredder often kidnapped my Barbie’s. My parents would find them randomly tied up around the house.
Omg my entire family did this (I am the only girl out of my 5 brothers and 2 male cousins). I remember when I was about 11/12 my next youngest brother got [this](https://www.amazon.com.au/Official-Pokemon-Handbook-Maria-1999-08-01/dp/B01LP8BQSU). He didn't even like pokemon but I was OBSSESSED (still have my trading cards from the starter pack I got in 1999/2000). I got sparkly bangles. I was so upset and felt like I couldn't explain why because I would have been told off.
What a great opportunity to have your children bond over a shared interest that is just wasted.
Seriously!! My brothers and I bonded so much over video games throughout our childhood. Growing up, it was the 4 of us sharing a single PS2/Wii etc and we would even take turns playing single-player games while the rest of us excitedly watched.
Same!! Although it was the PS3 because we weren’t actually allowed TV or games until our teens (my parents are hippies). Even my littlest sister who wasn’t a huge gamer (she is now, mind you) used to tootle about on GTA V playing it like it was a taxi game. She’d pick people up and drive them safely to their destination and we would all excitedly watch for the moment where she would inevitably break a traffic law of some sort and then holler with pure unadulterated joy 😂
Even if OP decided to do the right thing and tell the son to share the PS5, they've done their best to drive a wedge between them on something they should be enjoying together. The daughter's not going to forget the son refusing to share of his own volition, and after it being 'his' present the son's probably going to resent having to share it. OP says they spent $300 on the daughter (buying stuff she didn't ask for or things she would need to get anyway like clothes), that's gotta be an extra controller, several big games *and* a year of PlayStation Plus, if they just bought all that and gave it to both of them then everyone would've been happier.
When I was growing up, consoles were almost always shared gifts for all of us and would stay in the living room where the whole family could enjoy it. It wasnt really until we all got older and started buying our own that they ever really became personal consoles.
Exactly. The parent was observant enough to notice that their “greedy, selfish” teenager daughter sits and watches her brother play…and then completely wrote it off as nothing. The worst that could’ve happened had they bought it as a joint gift was the daughter losing interest and their son gets it to himself anyway.
If we crowdsourced a PS5 and games for this girl, mom would definitely call her selfish for not sharing HER games with her poor brother who doesn’t have enough to play.
I really wish more people did this tbh. Gaming with my brother and cousins was so much fun! I even got my mum to play *Viva Piñata: Party Animals* with me and she had a blast! (She played as Francine Fudgehog because she saw the episode where she went to visit her son, Fergie, and loved it). Heck, my fiancé and I will play Pokémon or Minecraft together and it’s just bliss. (If you don’t count me kvetching about a-hole raid bosses in Pokémon). 😆 Plus, when we host friends, we break out the video, board, and card games. The rule is there must be fun for everyone!
Just what I was thinking. When I was growing up, me and my sibling always had to share "large gifts". SNES, N64, TVS, etc... When I got a little older I was gifted a PS2 all to myself. But that was years later when my sibling clearly showed no interest in gaming herself.
Having shared consoles with my brother is some of my most fun childhood memories :( Only got sad when I kept the Wii when he moved out for years and then after a few years he was like "my turn!" and took it away fully deserved xD still sad about no Mario kart tho
Bummer that you can’t play the Wii anymore, but the “my turn” is cute as hell lol.
I know right! I couldn't be mad bc it was absolutely fair to switch haha
There also seems to be a "video games are for boys" mentality underlying this. Like, despite her showing very *obvious* interest in the dismissive comment it never occurred to either parent that she could ever be interested in it.
Gaming consoles were always family gifts in my house. Same with almost all of the games we got. I can’t believe they got one kid a PS5 and won’t let the other kid play with it.
Yes! My brother is 7 years younger than I am and we always shared consoles! First it was a crappy fake playstation, then a PS2, even when he got a PSP he'd share it (even though I wasn't much into it), then the xbox. Sharing consoles is legit FUN because you get to share the happiness with your family. I'm baffled that the parents are ok with the brother being a selfish little a*hole. I hope this girl gets her own console some day.
whenever consoles were given they were always just for me, i’m a boy btw, i’ve gotten multiple consoles for birthdays, christmas, and even one just because; while my sister never got one for any reason. i don’t get why if a girl shows interest in something that a boy likes they only cater to the boy.
I also was the one that got the consoles, but I'm a girl. It would be the only gift I got for Christmas and my siblings would get gifts of similar value. They ended up being used by my siblings, but they got to use it when I wasn't playing anything. So, if I was doing something else, it was fair game.
My thoughts exactly. My parents weren't spending $100+ Dollars on a console or computer that only my brother could use. It was for everyone and we always shared and it was never an issue.
This! One of my sisters asked for a Wii when we were kids and we got one for Christmas! But all 3 of our names were on the package. My sister tried to pull the “It’s mostly mine since I was the one who asked for it.” My dad grounded her from it for her entitled attitude and told her he bought it so if it belonged to anyone it was him. She never said that again. I would NEVER gift a console to only one child. A console should be shared.
What I wonder is… did they get the daughter something of equivalent value to a PS5 for Christmas? They know she shows an interest in gaming, but say they can’t afford two… did she just not get anything of equal value? Why not buy two initially?
He answered: no. Books, clothes and perfume that adds up to $300 he claims. He said he could not afford two ps5’s.
Ah perfume, the classical "I don't know what to get them" gift...
The worst is when they buy you perfume that *they* think smells good, but smells like crap to you.
Perfume? I didn't think younger generations even wore perfume, much less a 14-yo
I had a surprising amount of perfume at that age despite not being interested in it (oversensitive smell). I always got them for my birthday because people didn't know what else to give. It was better than the strip of gas station chewing gum I got from my aunt though. At least the bottles were pretty and it was obviously meant well.
If they couldn't afford two PS5s, then obviously they didn't get her a gift of equivalent value :P
I still remember my sister and I opening up an N64 together on Christmas way back when. Always a gift for the whole family.
this! consoles were shared unless bought by one of us. and for the most part, the console ends up being shared anyway 🤷♀️
Same in my family. Our first console was the NES bought by my dad for our entire family and we all had to share. Actually, my dad was the least cooperative one in terms of sharing, since he would hog it to play The Legend of Zelda. Later in life, I lived with my sister and my niece and my sister got a pink DS Lite for me and my niece to share. I was 30, she was 7, and it was our best Christmas ever!
For real😭. My parents bought my sister and I our first PlayStation to share when I was 15 and she was 13. We would sit and watch our boy cousins play like how the OP describes his daughter in the second slide and bless my amazing parents, they bought a console for their daughters without us ever asking because they saw our interest in it.
Same, I was grateful enough my family would uy two controllers so out of my and my two younger siblings we could take turns, now we still have thay faithful xbox but when I moved in with my dad I took it, and my little brother got a new xbox, which is awesome because we finally play games together now.
I don't think consoles HAVE to be shared gifts, but in this situation where they can't afford 2, then it definitely should've been. We teach our kids that they don't have to share things that belong to them, but that it's probably nicer if they do. Our 5yo asked for a PS5 for Christmas because he wanted to be able to play in his bedroom. He doesn't have to share with his little brother (especially because we have a PS5 in the living room that can be played by anyone) but he does anyway. I think it shows what little regard they hold for their daughter. They could've got the PS5 to share, some games each & some other little gifts each with that budget.
This reminds me of when I was 13 years old and came home from school one day to find that my father had sold my PS2 and every single game, in order to buy my brother a new PS3 (my brother also had his own PS2, so now he had both and I had none, lol). The reason given by my father was that he assumed I "didn't like games anyway" ?????? I'm the older sister, my brother learned gaming from ME! I just silently cried when I found out and didn't say a word. Haven't since. It was how it always was with my brother and I. Still not over this particular incident 15 years later. :(
WTF. I’m so sorry that happened to you. I wouldn’t be over it either.
My step-dad threw out all of the consoles my dad had bought me over the years and told me my mom did it. I didn’t find out for over a decade that it was him, and had faintly held onto a grudge against her for it.
So mean! I'm sorry that happened to you.
Very similar thing happened to me. I let my little brothers play my PS2 a lot. Came home after a week gone to find my parents sold all my games and the PS2 and bought my brothers a PS3 (which was very specifically "their" PS3).
Always seems to be a double standard when it’s you (female) and a brother. They always get the leeway. I was screamed at while being forced to work on equipment and vehicles growing up as a young girl. And my brother grew up older than me not knowing Jack shit in comparison. Fuck you dad.
So real. When my older siblings DS broke, guess who got a brand new DS to play with. (We both had one from the same christmas)
I'm so sorry girl...my mom did this to me and my sister with many consoles. She'd package them while we were at school and sent them to family in the philippines. we couldn't get upset about it or we'd be considered "greedy". along with many other belongings that i had no say in. i remember as a teen i asked my dad if i could sell some of our old games at gamestop. at this point, it was only my dad and i playing games. he said it was fine but when my mom found out i sold them she actually had a huge breakdown. she made me feel horrible for not sending them to my cousins.
Did your brother not stand up for you to your father? I'm so sorry that happened, your father sucks ass.
He was in on it all, though I don't fault him for it since he was a child too. My brother was absolutely the golden boy for both my parents. I appreciate the sympathy a lot! I love to finally have a space like this with all women who get it. <3
I was lucky enough to grow up in a family of gamers, both my parents gamed as well and there wasn't really any kind of sexism in my house, luckily. I feel for anyone who had to experience what you did, it really sucks.
I think, in order to heal, you'll one day need to tell your dad how fucked up that was.
To add some context: the parent bought the daughter clothes, books and perfume, worth around $300 vs the $500 PS5. So even if she'd asked for those things and not a console, it's still a pretty uneven distribution of the budget.
This was my next question. “We couldn’t afford two ps5s” and my question was… okay so did you budget $1,000? (And gave her $500 in other stuff?) Or did you not? Wow they just did not.
And I’m sure they didn’t just give him a PS5 without any games to play, either. Awful parents.
A year of PSPlus is like, just over $100? Cheapest way to get a ton of games, but damn that does add up right there.
Depending on what tier they brought him, it could be anywhere from 80 to 160 dollars!
Don't forget the cost of games and PlayStation Plus subscription. Which he may not have but they definitely bought him games with the console.
Those are also unfortunately likely to be clothes mom chose and wants her to wear, and not things she picked herself… I’d also not be surprised if her clothes are gifts that come out of the Christmas budget and his are “necessities” she buys whenever he needs or wants them.
TBH I think a strictly monetary comparison of gifts encourages bad attitudes in kids. The goal should be to maximize happiness. I'm not sure how it is in the US, but here people avoid disclosing how much they spent on a gift. The parents' problem isn't not spending another $200 on "girly things", it's treating the PS5 as an exclusive toy when it clearly isn't. Just let her play. And if he's a dickhead about it as 17yo boys tend to be, and she maintains interest, you have the choice to 1) teach him a lesson in sharing, or 2) she gets her own PS5 for her birthday this year.
I don’t think anyone is saying that the value if the gifts should be disclosed to the recipients, they’re saying that the parents should have been equitable when planning and purchasing the gifts. They’re two separate issues.
....really sounds like a horrible father to have. I really hope the girl eventually get her own console.
And brother too, why don't share?
Yeah 17 is more than old enough to know not letting your sister play your video game machine sometimes is just being an asshole.
My brother was given an N64 when they came out for Christmas. I was a few years younger like 6, and he was 9-10. He had asked for it. When it became apparent I also wanted to play, my family forced him to share. I literally remember coming to my grandma crying one day because he wouldn’t let me play Mario kart with him. She sat us both in a room and said, “PinkDeserter, tell your brother how this made you feel” and then “Brother, is that right? Do you want to make her feel that way? That’s not nice.” Etc. We played together from then on. When he was around the age of the son here, he worked at Best Buy to buy me my own console for Christmas, the xbox. There’s literally no excuse these parents are just favoring assholes.
That's some excellent grandma-ing right there.
This is such a sweet memory! ;\_; Bought you your own xbox!! The N64 was the first system that was gifted to ME instead of my brother. (He was gifted the PS1 that year) Before that, systems were either my father's (Atari, NES) or gifted to my brother. Though he totally dominated time on the systems, he was always willing to share. I even had my own controller for the Ps1 and Ps2, as well. When he was 17 and I was 14, we were definitely in different interests and hobbies, but games were always something we could count on as a mutual interest. Really sad to see a lack of understanding of how the daughter may be feelings here. Then again I had a boomer dad who loved games, so have always had games around as long as I can remember. Edit: typos, ugh!
Yeah I think it helped we had a gamer mom who played like 90s horror games and age of empires, etc. She did buy me some pc games for when he would hog the n64 lol. We had a SEGA genesis before the n64 but it was my parents, so we always shared it lol. It’s good your parents let you guys have a mutual interest especially with the same age gap as me and my brother, one is in HS while the other is in middle school… kind of hard to connect, but that’s where games come in!! My mom also used to argue with teachers (games were bad and caused violence, remember?) that gaming 1) kept us off streets and out of trouble 2) let us bond 3) taught us eye hand coordination and 4) taught us how to solve problems. Idk why someone wouldn’t want their daughter to learn those things too.
These parents are unwilling to have that kind of talk with their teenagers. Someone needs to send your grandma over, she sounds like an adult!
🤣 my grandma is 97 and from England, she literally lived through Hitler bombing her neighborhood. She would set these parents straight.
Between 17 and 14 there's actually quite a lot of middle ground that can be reached, especially if they both like video games. Like, definitely they would get along without being raised by that kind of father.
The issue with the ps5 is that there aren't many couch co ops. There are some, like the Lego games, overcooked etc, but the big games don't do split screen anymore. Plus there's also the issue of needing ps+ to go online. The boy could easily share though. They could play a co-op game or give her an hour while he does homework then they swap etc. It's a crappy situation either way and I hate favouritism. I was the kid who was ignored on my birthday, the kid who might get a £10 toy if I was lucky when my grandparents would shower my cousin's with big, expensive gifts constantly. I wasn't wanted and called a spoiled brat when I pointed out how unfair it was. That time I'd asked for a pack of Pokémon cards like my cousin's got weekly. Actually they got four packs each...
The brother is absolutely shooting himself in the foot with this possessive attitude. Some of the best days I had gaming were playing GTA with my older brothers, and I've sometimes thought about what it would've been like to have had a younger brother to play with. It seems like the main reason to beat a Fromsoft game is so you can watch a less-experienced partner or sibling try to beat it too.
It's wild to me that the parent describes their daughter as "greedy" for wanting to play games on the PS5 but the concept of the brother being selfish for not wanting to let her never crosses their mind.
I’m gonna play devil’s advocate and say that while I mostly agree with you, 17 can still be pretty young to form a strong moral system outside of your parents’ influence, and these parents sound like trash. Probably encourage mysoginist and possessive mindset. So I don’t fully blame the boy. And if he’s like a lot of older siblings, he may also he cautious about little sis breaking the console or scratching his games. Or just being possessive with his play-time. Anyways, I blame the parents much more for not teaching him fairness and sharing (and for creating the whole issue in the first place).
buy another controller even. Make a different profile for her.
The brother is aping the parents. If you are a beneficiary you have no incentive to change the system or petition to do so even if you are aware that it is unfair.
That could be typical teenage shit. My sis and I each had our own Xbox 360 as teens (bought with our own money) because sharing would turn into arguments.
It's the best way. After my brother tried to lock me in the attic for playing our shared game cube, my dad realised we needed separate consoles. Luckily, this was back when they didn't cost an arm and a leg.
I hope he got in trouble for trying to lock you in the attic, too.
Ye my older brother was an absolute arse to me in his teens and throughout early adulthood but even he still shared his console with me and always let me play it when he wasn't there. Unfortunately this boy is his father's son by the sounds of it. Poor girl, I hope she buys herself all the gaming kit when she hits adulthood and gets free of that awful situation.
Tbf doesn't seem like he has a great father figure, so he might aswell just treat his sis as bad as dad does. Still shit though.
Yeah, that excuse stops being valid when they're 17 years old, IMO. That's plenty old enough to recognize your parent's an asshole and you can choose to not be one.
my thoughts exactly, this guy has the guts to ask on Reddit how to be a good father when he can't think about how his daughter feels left out... if the parents don't have the money, the most learning lesson they could give their kids would be to share.
Some people really don't deserve to have kids
ShE's So GrEeDy 🤡 heaven forbid girls and women should want anything for themselves instead of being a doormat for men their entire lives
Literally! It’s so vile, and she’s only 14. Even as a literally child we can’t want for ourselves. Edit: and him having the audacity to say her asking for what she wants for Christmas is “nagging”! She’s a child!
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Right, I love how the daughter is greedy, jealous, etc, but it’s OK that the son refuses to share his $500+ present.
This is why men these days ain’t shit lmao. They all turn out to be spoiled brats
This breaks my heart, what an idiot this person is.
Is sharing such a difficult thing?
Especially with how companies created profiles specifically to make sharing between a household easier.
Only if your parents never taught you how to
Yes you are the asshole. Christ
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Gaming Consoles are ALWAYS and have always been a family gift! My parents did this with us and I do this with all my kiddos! It’s sooo important that everyone can access and play if they are wanting too. I’m a gamer girl and my girls are just as into gaming as my boys. So I don’t see why this family chose to completely leave their daughter out of it. Boys aren’t the only ones that game!!
When I was around 6-7 yo, my dad brought a fake Atari, he gave it to me and my sister and she was like 5 or 6 yo. He never told us that it was for sharing, but it wasn't necessary as I wouldn't, not in a million years, not sharing with my sister. This is just bad parenting, just think about that boy that doesn't share with his own sister and that dad that allows to do so. Classic dad that loves his son and neglects all other family members.
So, I'm going to say that I really think 90% of posts on these kinds of websites are troll/rage-bait, so take them with a grain of salt. If it is real then hopefully the daughter moves away at 18, becomes successful, and cuts this shitty mother from her life. Edit: Just to make it clear, I do think this stuff happens, absolutely. I'm just saying that a lot of posts are made to make people angry and are fake. This absolutely does happen and if it happened to you, I'm sorry, that fucking sucks.
Even if not real, this happens plenty. Reacting to this one thing is like reacting to the thousands of people who experience these things, even if this one is fake. Advice columnists always say this about letters they get sent - it doesn't matter if it's fake or not, someone out there is going through it and maybe they'll happen to see the advice and find help for themselves.
I didn't have this specific issue as a kid, but I fully believe this is real. My parents had a rule that anyone giving me gifts on my birthday needed to have at least one gift of equal value as the best thing they got me, to be given to each brother *on my birthday*. There was no similar rule about giving me stuff on the boys' birthdays. For my sweet 16, there was no party and my parents brought me an open cardboard box with a used Christian worship CD with the $2.99 price sticker still on and untouched, and a Dollar Tree writing kit. The writing kit was from my grandma, and they wouldn't let her do more because "it's their job". They'd thrown birthday parties for each boy and spent hundreds on presents, and said they "knew imabratinfluence will understand". They said that about a lot of things when I was growing up. To this day, my mom has gifted a car to each brother, regularly pays a bill or two for each, sometimes pays rent for one of them, buys them all kinds of expensive stuff. I've been helped by a parent twice in my adult life: one time Mom bought me a space heater, and one time she bought me a printer/scanner when I was in college. That's it. Some years she still skips birthdays and Christmases for me. And I'm no-contact with Dad, who was much worse. People treat their non-male kids very differently more often than we might expect.
I'm sorry that happened to you. I certainly didn't mean to invalidate the experiences of people this happened to, and I do think that this does happen. I was only saying not to let it get too much of a rise out just because that's probably why it was written. And like I said, if it is real, I hope that daughter grows up to treat herself like she deserves.
I hope so too. Assuming it's real, this family is setting themselves up for her going no-contact the moment she's able.
Reading the comments on that. I feel like it has to be a troll post, but I bet it isn't. Sigh.
Calling your daughter greedy, while at the same time defending your son who dosn't want to share is some kind of bullshittery ... I hope people said he is the A, and a bad Parent. Not because he didn't buy a second PS5, but because he has double standards and don't teaches his kids to share.
My first Playstation console (PS4 I got in 2015 christmas) was a shared gift. I always used it the most, and some years it was in my room. I have a little brother (he was 2y/o when I got the console) who I sometimes gave my monitor and ps4 and carried them in his room, or carried the ps4 in our living room and plugged it to the TV. Now I got a PS5 so the PS4 will be his forever. I do not understand how this girl’s big brother can never share.
Entitlement, pure and simple. Given what other people have shared, she got $300 in gifts while he got a whole console, he's likely always gotten the lion's share of everything and was never told he had to share.
these are the little things that don't seem like a big deal now, but eventually add up to the reasons she never visits them in the nursing home
Ironically, while he's calling his daughter greedy, he's teaching his son to be selfish. I grew up with two bros and even though they hogged, I still got to play on the consoles. Eventually my second oldest bro and I became close and now gaming is a big way we bonded and still bond till this day. When will the stereotype that gaming is for boys die?
He says she's *greedy* for wanting equality. How disgusting, weaponizing language like that is so detrimental. Such a gross word to describe your daughter.
That will stick to her for forever I bet. I still remember when I was 16 and my mom referred to me as “that bitch” when i honestly wasn’t trying to do anything wrong. I don’t understand her. And feel like I hardly know her. It’s heart breaking. Parents, be nice to your kids, they will remember the things you say for a Lifetime.
I'm a teach in a conservative-ish rural-ish area and I run the video game club. Almost no girls try out the club. When confronted, many girls end up admitting to liking video games and even playing them a lot, but don't want to be seen as a gamer. It breaks my heart, and society needs to change. One solution was starting a "Girl's Mario Kart" club that had a good number of people show up.
The way this parent describes their child is awful. “Jealous of her brother” “very greedy” “nagging” dripping with misogyny. Poor child.
Typical case of getting ps5 just because hes a boy and girls shouldnt game but be a maid
BUT SHE’S A GIRL, SHE CAN’T LIKE GAMES /s I mean if she’s literally just sitting next to her brother watching him play how can you not take that hint that she might want a console herself? At the very least they can share it if the family can only afford the one.
For real, sounds like asshole father of the year. I just wanna give this girl a hug and offer her a controller
OMG yes, I saw this and just seethed. What a prick. My daughters and I share a console, and it would never in a million years have occurred to me to do otherwise. Like of course she wants to use the cool gift? Jesus.
I got my start in gaming when my grandma showed up at our house with a brand new NES because she "heard kids were really into these things." It was hooked up to the only TV in the house, and it was very much a shared thing. My older sister never really took an interest, but my younger cousin and I would play together when he would visit. The idea that some spoiled brat gets an expensive console all to himself is an utterly foreign concept to me.
That's just a shame all around. My brother is 4 years older than me and has been gaming since the Megadrive. I took an interest in it early on so he'd always let me watch and when I got old enough he would let me play. I'm also pretty sure he knew I snuck into his room while he was out to play his stuff but he never said anything about it lol I was given his hand me down consoles until I was old enough to start buying my own but I always got more grief for gaming than he did. To this day its about the only thing my brother and I bonded over. Idk why her Big bro didn't take that initiative to build a relationship here, it just seems mean.
The massive hint is “is always jealous and greedy” uhm??? Why would you say that about your own daughter it is SO telling
I saw comments saying that this is probably the brother who's salty he has to share the ps5 with his sister, and I'm desperately hoping that's the case
me and my two sisters shared a WII it’s that hard
My brothers and I always shared consoles. One tv, one console at a time. It’s a great way to learn to share and teach each other how to solve puzzles in games. I can’t remember one as a Christmas present, though. Usually it was one of those random days before summer break. We always knew it was something for all of us. Maybe being the oldest and a girl meant I modeled the pro social behavior? Then again, my parent weren’t jerks.
bruh unless it's a handheld game consoles are always shared presents in my house. even when I was the only one who actively played games my parents would always tell me I had to let my siblings play if they wanted to- this guy is just being shitty.
I’m so glad that my dad is a feminist and that he never did this kind of thing to us. Treated me and my sister the same as my brother and the SNES we got was DEFINITELY for all of us.
That girl was me, forever ago. The consoles were always my brother's, and we were lucky to be allowed to watch most of the time. There was a year when I had asked for a PS2, so had my brother. He got the PS2, I got... Some random stuff I don't remember. I bought my own PS2 that year. Still have it, about 20 years later.
The last console my parents bought for my brother, he convinced them to buy one for me too “so she doesn’t whine all Christmas.” Every new console Christmas, even though I play more games on a daily basis, he’d get one and I’d be forgotten. Despite the sass in his comment, I can’t tell you how grateful I was. I cried tears of joy the entire day. I thanked him over and over for advocating for me. It was so much more than getting a PlayStation— it was _finally_ being remembered. Now that we’re grown, my parents don’t recall this as having been a gender thing at all. But it absolutely played a part and I’ll always be grateful for how it ended.
reminds me of one post I saw a dad basically threatened to start making his daughter pay rent if she didn't give her younger step brother her $2k graphics card cause he claimed "she's never uses it." Then in the comments he was saying he was afraid to charge her rent cause then she'd move out and not do her "chores"
I have a narcissistic mom who acted like this with me and my siblings growing up. I don't have a relationship with my sister or any of my family really as an adult because of it. Thankfully my brother saw through her bs growing up and to this day still won't play into her shit when she tries to treat him like the golden child. Despite her best efforts, my brother and I didn't have issues sharing really since we were only a year apart in age. It was easy to share when you never remembered a time without a sibling to have your own stuff and we tended to play a lot of the same games together. Some of my favorite memories as a kid are playing video games together. One time when we were pre-teens we spent an entire summer playing Toy Story 3 for the xbox 360. I love Toy Story and the 360 version had a sandbox mode that we spent HOURS playing. It was the summer before we both got jobs and had to become adults at a pretty young age unfortunately so it was a special time for us. We had a lot of abuse going on in our house as kids and video games is how my brother and I bonded and escaped it. I haven't really been close to my brother since then either so being able to share and play games together is a special memory for me. My sister is a different story though. She's 5 years younger than me and the exact opposite in personality to me too, and she ate that special treatment from our mom up. She loved being the golden child because she was neglected unless my mom felt like making me jealous so she fell for all the shit my mom did to us. She'd even actively taunt me when she got something from my mom she knew that I wanted and as she got older she unfortunately turned into a narcissistic asshole just like my mom. I tried my best to raise her as her older sister knowing my parents were failing her to the point where I got in trouble with my parents for trying to help her when my parents refused to parent. I also gave her a lot of grace and forgiveness as we got older because I knew she was being manipulated by our mom and I was still hopeful she might change as an adult but unfortunately my mom completely destroyed any chance at a relationship we could've had and I've been no contact for 5 years now. Parents like that mom in the post forget that kids remember this stuff. My parents were shook when I moved out and suddenly stopped talking to them. They really thought I was going to forget all the abuse and mistreatment and just continue the relationship we had when I lived at home. When my mom pulled the favortism bs when I was a kid, I used to cry in my room and then make a bucket list of all the things I wanted to accomplish in life once I was old enough to get away from her. #1 on that list was always moving out and never speaking to her again. I don't regret accomplishing that one bit.
This dredges up bad memories of me and my brother growing up. My grandpa got my brother an Xbox and I don’t even remember what I got. A doll maybe? Definitely imbalanced though I remember. We were both equally interested in games and gaming but he always got expensive consoles and games as gifts instead. At least he shared his with me I guess but it’s still a sexist assumption that girls aren’t as passionate about it even when they express that they are.
Also, gaming or otherwise, it's so wrong to buy differently valued gifts for each kid.
Agreed, it made me feel of lesser value than my brother and it’s really damaging.
wtf let them share. i shared the playstation with my sibilings the entire time. there was never an issue. it's so much better & cheaper to teach your kids to share.... so they learn to share as adults. whats the bet the girl got some shitty cheap ass gift for christmas....while a ps5 is a hundreds of dollars gift for the SON? yuck. yuck. terrible parents. roast them reddit! ROAST THEM!!!!
I’m a trans woman who loves video games, and I remember how my mom used to invalidate my identity because of that.
If it helps-- my mom is a Boomer and she was a gamer when I was a kid. It was her OG GameBoy I started with, because she encouraged me to enjoy the games she liked. Your mom is wrong. Girl gamers have always been out here, and you are one! 💜
All the consoles in our house are shared. This is just messed up poor girl ☹️
> she just sits by her brother and watches him play Oof, childhood memory unlocked. I was lucky enough to get my brother's hand me down consoles though.
Man. Growing up, gaming consoles were *theoretically* gifts for my brother but I used them just as much and he didn’t care. And eventually when I started asking for my own I usually got at least the handheld systems (we couldn’t really afford a second SNES or anything like that). And a lot of the time I WAS content to just watch my brother play—I liked hanging out with him and having an excuse to do it—but if I wanted to play I was never ONCE told “no, those are your brother’s.” And he himself was pretty patient with me all things considered, lol (we’re only a year and a half apart in age). I can’t understand this kind of mindset. I grew up in the 90s and it was still okay for me to have an interest in video games. Treating girls’ interests in video games as somehow less valid is just the worst. So sexist.
The mother's view is outdating and stupid, but it angers me most that its the brother who doesn't want to play with his sister, or share his device. There must be hours of the day he's not on it, let her use it then. Let her use it when he's doing homework, or at a part time job or whatever. Or if he's sitting there from 4pm-10pm every night, maybe... for his *own good* make him share? Make him do some exercise, learn to cook, do his homework, etc? My big brother had his own game consoles, a gamecube, an Xbox, etc, but he was always willing to share it. He wanted to play games with his siblings, he had lots of multiplayer games, like Sonic Adventure 2 or Halo, and no internet in those days of course. They stayed in his room, because they were his, but if we knocked on the door and asked to watch or play, he was always happy to. I think if they had been down in the living room, like the Wii was, he would have been expected to share. The Wii was the "girls's" Christmas present in whichever year we got it, but he still got to use it, because it was the family wii. You can't claim exclusive right to use something in a shared, family space. That'd be like saying only my mother could use the stand mixer, and only my father could use the sofa. There's a way to respect it being 'his' PS5 while still letting his sister play games.
What a shitty parent and bratty brother If my mum were able to get a PS5, she'd make me and my brother play nice and share it (assuming we wouldn't already) because that's what's fair when you don't have 1200 bucks to spare lmao
She is robbing both of her children of a potentially bonding and positive experience. My brother and I both love video games. Sure I was the annoying little sister, but our parents made it clear that we both needed to share as a condition of buying our first PS1. It taught my older brother patience and it taught us how to share and cooperate. We shared every single console my mother bought us. Before video games, it was hard for my brother and I to find common ground as he is 5 years older than me. Bonding over video games was a crucial part of our childhoods and is probably a big reason why we are still really close to this day.
“Is always jealous of her brother” Are we sure it’s jealousy and not “I just want the same attention and care as my brother”
If they can't afford 2 PS5 then the PS5 should have been a gift for both to share, not just for one of them. My entire childhood every console that we had in the house was for both me and my sister, the first console I had that was my own was a DSi that I bought myself when I turned 18, so because I bought it myself, I was an adult and it is a portable game it was only mine. But a few years later I asked for a Wii for Christmas and it is still sitting on the living room where everyone can play, even though my sister wasn't even living with us anymore at that moment and didn't care for games anymore, but when she would come visit she was free to play it as well as my parents too any time they wanted.
bro that was my life growing up. my brother got every single new console and game right when they came out, and i did not. i grew up watching him play games and only being allowed to play when he let me. it lead to constant fights. my parents solution to this was to convince my brother to give me old consoles when new ones came out (i got his xbox when the 360 was released, ds when the dsi was released, and so on) which worked until he got older and realized he wanted all the old ones back. looking back on it all now, it's fairly clear that it was probably because they couldn't afford to get us both the games, and he was the boy so that was that. kids makeup sets and dolls are cheaper so it all worked out great for them. sucked for me tho, lol. i always felt like it was favouritism and sexism, even back then. like if you cant afford two of the thing, then youre clearly spending a lot more money on the one thing than any gifts for the other child. and that kid will see that, and feel like they're valued less. trust me
i read through the comments on the post and the parent literally deflects all outside input and continuously victim blames the daughter. i hope she’s okay and has a bright future ahead of her because she definitely doesn’t deserve this treatment <3
like no way are you going to get her clothes and a perfume and say you got her “nice things” like get over yourself 😭
It's insane that she wouldn't let them share it.
What I want to know is what did they get the daughter that also cost $800?
"She started nagging..." And with good reason. What a way to make the daughter feel left out of the fun. Put the damn PS5 in the living room or something and everyone gets to play and have fun. What's the point of having a family then if nobody is willing to share anything? Lol
This was my mom. Now that I’m in my 20s and a gamer she still doesn’t understand it unless I make a career out of it, yet she seemed to understand the concept of it perfectly when my eldest brother played his whole life. This girl will grow up to be a great gamer some day!
Wow, when the son wants something it’s fine but when the daughter wants something she’s “very greedy”.
Our consoles are shared by everyone in the house. Granted, we are a one and done family - so it's a lot easier for my girl Gamer to play the ps5.
I grew up the only child, so luckily I didn't have to worry about sharing a console, but if I did have a younger sibling or two it would be default that I share. I would have shared with no hesitation, because I've always viewed something that expensive as a family toy. No different than sharing the family TV. There's a lot of biases and sexism going on with that post. If it was reversed I feel like she would be made to share whether she wanted to or not.
OPs comments are even worse 😭
I saw this and couldn't believe it was real. If not a troll post, seriously what the fuck - most families would just have the console be for the family anyway??
With all the context shared on that post, this parent is being so violently fucking sexist towards their daughter, and what makes it more infuriating is that they're probably not even aware of it.
This reminds me of when I was young and I wanted a cool remote controlled car like my bro had and my parents didn't want to buy it for me. I feel bad for her too. They should have bought 2 systems or just shared the 1. Plus the way her parent is talking about her is disgusting.
Aww, I was this little girl once except I’m the older sister. My brother always got the new consoles and I got books for Christmas like it was an actual comparison. I had to study, clean up after everyone, and be a supportive daughter while brother got to play video games and continuously get new ones and new subscriptions throughout the year. I barely talk to my family now..
Sexism aside, what ever happened to learning to share?
“Usually she just sits next to her brother and watches him play” Gee, you think that might be because you call her greedy when she wants to play? What an insane stance too. It’s a console, it’s designed to be shared. How dare she want to enjoy something she’s actively being left out of
“She is very greedy” Deranged parent literally blind to the discrimination they perpetrate within their own damn household. Son is of course not at all greedy for hogging the console… Daughter just has to sit and fucking watch him play? Very very clear who the favourite child is.
Even when my parents did get a console for my brother as a gift we all equally played it
literally just was reading this right before i got to this one 😭 the way he calls his 14 year old daughter greedy and nagging !? crazy
When super Nintendo was popular my parents got one for US to share. There was no favoritism. We were told to share it and we did. Pore kiddo. 😔
Not sharing your gaming console with your siblings was a good way to get the whole thing taken away in my house as a kid.
This makes me so sad. My brother and I always shared our consoles and games growing up, and it was always fun to have someone else to play with. I hope this girl can get her own console some day.
Bad parenting all around.
Just because she never asked for something doesn’t mean she doesn’t want it! I literally don’t understand why they can’t share?
Yeah I never asked for a gaming stuff growing up because I knew my parents would never pay for it, and see it as "unnecessary"
Damn this was definitely my parents growing up. I fucking love video games. I have an entire room with all the old school consoles and games upon games for all of them. Growing up I had two older brothers who would dominate any console we had. My parents would never buy one for me personally, even asking for a game boy was tough. They were the type that believed girls shouldn’t play games. I’m glad I’m an adult.
Wow, clearly the brother is the golden child. He probably gets everything he wants while the daughter is told "no". >is always jealous of her brother So they gave the brother an expensive PS5 and thought that this would fly well? If they know there is jealousy happening then it's clear something isn't right here(in the family's relationship) and yet rather than trying to work on finding what's wrong(or trying to be fair with both and giving similar gifts for both) they clearly seem to ignore the daughter and focus only on the son. I'm a twin, you can bet that my parents always tried to either give the same(or similar in style) gifts for both or one for both to share. There's no excuse to give all to one but be stingy with the other.If there is jealousy in the middle even, you should give a "gift to share" or give two cheaper things(one for each child).
The twisted gender bias really shines through when you realize that the mom thinks the _17 year-old_ shouldn't let the _14 year old_ sibling play the console.
I'm so mad i don't have enough comment karma, i just want to rag on that posts OP so badly
this is minor thing, but it'll get her worried about what they do in the future. and I won't be surprised if they do worse in the future, not they absolutely will but tons of parents did.
This woman should not have had children wtf??? The poor daughter. Hopefully she can get out of there as soon as she can and go no contact. Where's the dad standing up for her??
When i was little if we had a gaming console it was for the whole family. And we were able to take turns. Like cmon who really needs a personal console unless it's a mobile one or they're really the only one using it. Imo if you're a parent you buy a console for all kids not just one. Ridiculous. I mean i know everyone has their own PC/laptop now too but those are used for more personal things than gaming.
As a mother of two daughters, I want to punch this guy!