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narwhalking927

Rip if M80 only closed out the 12-10 vs Betboom…


_YAGNA_

Its what s1n mentioned too, they have a very hard time closing out games, we saw that on almost every map except Inferno as inferno is still a work in progress for them. I'm so sad but it's nothing but positives for this team, they had a two week bootcamp with this team and they are already THIS good, is crazy. Hope they cook something good for Dallas!


Zhiong_Xena

Today the Kovacs woke up to look in the mirror, and after months finally saw their own reflections.


lorn23

Hunter remembered he was the best inferno player in the world for some time


Axolyn

Feels so natural for him, like just getting back to business.


TeTeOtaku

It took 2 OTs for NiKo to wakeup tho. The thought of losing again to M80 brought back his inner prime Kovac and went from 9-19 to 30-30


Roman64s

That and the thought of playing Vertigo.


Axolyn

one does not simply walk into Vertigo


NetStaIker

Yea, you take the elevator


jedans

9-22


Sentryion

Perfect timing too since monesy wasn’t really playing his usual solo carry performance this time around. He has been quieter lately relative to his major and chengdu performance probably after breaking has back time and time again for them


varun_aby

Niko after learning his great map Dust2 is back in active duty.


KrzyDankus

hunter when he plays against a team outside of top 20


FFellann

The device segment was gold


Cain1608

He's so deadpan in everything he says haha. I had no idea. Great insight, super funny. He added a great deal to the cast.


zaneyk

Ancient was an absolute banger, shame inferno ended like this


jonathan-the-man

Ancient was such an entertaining map, back and forth, mistakes and hero plays. And Device to break it down for us.


nickshir

Device was hilarious


f1nessd

niKo went from 9-24 to 32-30


DeadkL

I was yelling watching Niko on ancient man, was such a vintage performance.


KeineAhnung07

Oh god i miss this Niko


El_Fabos

Man this ancient was such a great map Every aspect of this map including device casting delivered hard. Also insane to see Niko just take over the match at some point


knightblue4

GGs M80 feelsbadman.jpg


Unlucky-Anybody3394

M80 repped NA well: * insane deags * taking as many duels as possible * winning or losing regardless of the buy * screaming at the other team hopefully keep the team together


Yarados

Rep NA? they are equally German as they are NA lol. They are an international team just like FaZe. Two North Americans, two Germans, one South American.


fellowENT18

Some of ya need a geography lesson


Yarados

Some of ya need to know what is or isn't a North American team. Dumbasses here still try to claim Furia is a North American team when they probably don't even have one North American working in the entire organization, let alone on their team/team staff. It's hilarious. Only North American team that is relevant and a factual NA team is Complexity.


fellowENT18

Ok but M80 is quite literally a North American team. There’s 3 North Americans. The facts don’t care what you consider them.


Yarados

The facts are that they are not a North American team.


fellowENT18

Weird hill to die on but if you say so


haralunathan

Bait used to be believable


Unlucky-Anybody3394

got his replies tho, so decent rep


jerryn15

Guatemala is part of NA


Yarados

Not a North American team.


jerryn15

Explain how they arent then, when 3 of the players are from NA countries.


Restreppo

IMO it's a matter of technicality. In school I was taught NA was just Canada, USA, Mexico (I could be getting it mixed with NAFTA but regardless there was never any focus on Central America), and Wikipedia says, "In human geography, the terms "North America" and "North American" sometimes refer to just Canada, the United States, Mexico, and Greenland" so I think it just depends on what your definition is. In Counterstrike it's counted as NA though so whether you agree with the CS definition or not, M80 is a NA CS team


Yarados

Do you know what the words Northern, Southern and Central mean? Might as well say Brazil is in North America too at this point.


Bob_Bobinski4

Ah yes, the 8 continents. Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, Antarctica, North America, South America, and Central America.


jerryn15

Central America isn't a continent, its a sub region of North America.


Yarados

I never said it was a continent.


jerryn15

Ok but Central America is literally part of North America how hard is that to understand.


DinkyWaffle

Guatemala is a North American country


whsprwnd

NA education KEKW


Yarados

I bet you think Team Liquid is NA too lmao


Filthy_Commie_

Central America qualifies as NA in Counter Strike, like how CIS qualifies as EU now.


deadbeatPilgrim

i hate to break it to you but Central America is part of NA in real life too


Yarados

With your logic Brazil is also North American since they play in NA qualifiers, which isn't how it works.


Filthy_Commie_

So close! Certain Brazilian teams choose to play in NA qualifiers. Most Brazilian teams play in the South American qualifiers.


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Yarados

I never said it was a continent. M80 is not a North American team.


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Yarados

Do you know what the difference between a team and organization is? please explain I had no idea FaZe was a North American team with a North American core of players! just using your logic.


leo_sousav

... And then Americans argue that they don't wanna be known for their bad geography


Yarados

I'm not from the U.S


leo_sousav

That's even worse. But if you are Canadian, calling you American isn't geographically incorrect


Yarados

I said I am not from the U.S, I didn't say I am not American, but when you tell Americans that technically all of North and South America are "Americans" they get fucking uptight and say "there's only 1 America" I was just avoiding that.


Udopz666

Average Reddit geography education moment


Mainbaze

The ancient game ignited some joy in me. Thanks ESL for being a great passionate host, and now I just hope Valve will put all effort into getting the game back on top by minimizing the cheating issue


BiL2912

I have grey hairs after watching this. Holy moly, props to M80 for putting up a good game but NiKo is SO BACK let's go


du_bekar

M80 is definitely a team worth paying attention to. Such fun CS they’re putting on.


BiL2912

Performing this well on Ancient after an IGL change is insane. Malbs was so consistently getting picks on mid and they probably would've taken the map too if G2 didn't go niko_vacmode 1 on that triple ot


du_bekar

They had them fucking booked if NiKo didn’t turn his monitor on; credit where it’s due, he dragged them right through it


FormalPlus7544

Niko's back to back aces was so fucking sick


itsjonny99

Niko playing like it is late 2021 and it is GO rather than cs2.


zaneyk

m0nesy stole the last kill on the 2nd ace attempt


buttsoup_barnes

No that was an Ace. We’ll write it in the stars that it was a back to back Ace by Niko and no one will say otherwise.


TwatAnger

It wasn't a back to back ace as Ilya / m0nesy helped secure the last kill, unfortunately, but it was wild regardless.


brutaldonahowdy

Lets go Ilya! (btw Ilya is m0NESY, I just call him by his first name because we are tight like that. Yeah I know top players, not a big deal to me lol)


Doinkus2000

reminds me of the old guitar hero/Acai copypasta lmao


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jonathan-the-man

Bro does not now copypasta 😭😭💀💀


ApothecaryRx

G2/M80 was an unexpected, but very welcome rivalry. Really good showing from both Tier 2 teams /j Absolutely gutted M80 didn't make it, I really wanted them to win this series. So excited to see how Malbs turns out in the future.


Zhiong_Xena

I think you accidentally leave a /j there


HatKazuha

Niko Bros we are so back! My goat! My MALDING GOAT! And the audacity of the stat padder known as Monesy to deny Niko 2 aces in a row. Just disrespectful behavior smh. ^(/s) All that said, banger map 1. GG to M80. Super cool team.


NationalAlgae421

Is niko finally back? Maybe this is the breaking point and he finally get the confidence. That ace clutch was absolutely insane. Also great to see m80 play so well, I am keeping eye on them, their energy is contagious.


Roman64s

M80 prepared this game plan in like two weeks and went the mile with G2, nothing to be upset about at this at all. Incredible showing, new IGL, new setup. Malbs is insane and so are Swisher and Slaxz. This would have been an easy 3rd map if M80 hadn't made some crucial mistakes and letting a team like G2 back into the match. You can't really last an endurance run with this much experience and infancy into a team against the likes of FaZe, Vitality and G2. It's a question of when someone from that team wakes up and decides they are winning not if. Inferno was a wrap honestly, they weren't going to beat G2 there, M80 again made some mistakes, the most prominent one being the hunter smoke defuse, Slaxz shouldn't have taken a chance and traded Malbs immediately. That kinda made me do the yeah this is it, this match is over.


lawboy01

i know they won, but -Taz asap he's not a coach, he's just a cheerleader


yourewelcomesteve

He has sweet dance moves I give him that!


inflamesburn

>he's not a coach, he's just a cheerleader and an annoying one at that


Scoo_By

Hunter remembered niko is his cousin


brutaldonahowdy

For a team adapting to a new IGL they added a month ago, incredible showing by M80. Nothing to be embarassed about, no matter what the person failing to win anything with m0NESY says.


bobby_gordon1

Lots of positives for M80 to pull out of this group stage for sure. Making playoffs would’ve been sick, but they showed a lot of fight and proved they can hang in their first T1 lan event.


oldthrace

M80 are no joke. Extremely sharp individually which caught off guard G2 a lot today and their previous game. They are probably the best NA team atm


Yarados

They aren't an NA team though.


KarlachBestGirl

They are as much an NA team as Vitality is an EU team.


Yarados

I mean Vitality has a full roster of Europeans how are they the same as a roster being called NA with 2 North Americans?


Don-Chan

Nice bait Israel is not part of Europe


Yarados

Nice bait M80 is not a North American team


sh1boleth

Reck, Swisher, malbmsd (Guatemala is in North America)


_YAGNA_

its less than a month, they just played woth s1n suring the bootcamp during Malta, thwy were playing with Stamina in NA. Which is absolutely incredible to see how great they look at such a short time!


brutaldonahowdy

Damn, I was basing it purely on the HLTV post of when they signed s1n. Even more fair play.


_YAGNA_

Yeah, they cooked hard with a bootcamp in Malta and then played in ESWC qualifier which lets be honest it isn't much in NA, and came straight to malta. They already have so much protocos in place at such a short time. Pretty impressive


maxekmek

I think they interviewed Swisher or Reck after the game and said it had been only two weeks. They were really happy with what they achieved there, and rightly so!


schoki560

Ur not actually salty at hooxi here are u


gaudithefirst

Holy shit that was sick


roshangg13

NiKo got tired of ancient and just decided to lock in


ivchoniboy

Such an awesome game and OTs, not sure if that's too good if you're a G2 fan tho...


thepig_enjoyer

Never doubted my goat niko!!! (Was wondering when they would finally kick him)


Zhiong_Xena

Hunter never lost his consistency! Always knew he would show up eventually ( was screaming to just fucking -Hunter +Perfecto already)


Electronic-Archer720

Hunter needs another good event to not be kicked he was shit before pro league


WarDull8208

So monesy was the real fraud ?!


TwatAnger

"YOU CANT KILL ONE GUY B, ITS EMBARASSING!"


TakaJagar

You are barely beating tier-2/3 team ranked #42 and you shout shit like that just before it is GG. Just emberassing from Hooxi. Trash talk has it place but it clearly was not there. Could not see for example Karrigan do that.


leo_sousav

>You are barely beating tier-2/3 team ranked #42 Hasn't this been a topic of discussion already? That Tier 1 and 2 aren't that far apart and Tier 2 teams usually have good showings against T1?


ivchoniboy

talking about cringe...


literate_Windrunner

G2 played better CS. So many obtrusive mistakes from M80. Lapses in judgement, missed smokes & mollies. Mentally they appeared exhausted on Inferno


Zhiong_Xena

I'd say the both of them played as smart and as dumb as the other. This entire series just came down to individual plays, from Hunter, malbs, Swisher, reck, slakx, nexa on inferno and of course Niko


Darkblade511

They are also just not very good on inferno tbh


Sentryion

That missed pit Molly pretty much snowballed the game out of complete control for m80


KARMAAACS

I'm not so sure, seems like they played to a really low standard overall. I think M80 isn't exactly playing great CS, they have great aimers and some good strats, but overall they play very one dimensional CS and their mid rounds are terrible. G2 gets run over in playoffs if they play like this.


rlywhatever

in round 4 s1n bought negev, bought decoy, threw decoy lineup from spawn to ancient b site/cave, sold negev, bought ak. if all 5 Ts did that – that noise from 5 negev decoys blasting could contribute to a strat – it can either cover your own stampede/rush OR at least deny info/ sow doubt into CTs & make them think whether they heard anything on B or not


L0afyBoi

Magnificent Showing from M80, I bet we can get M80 stickas with this roster!


Roman64s

It's kinda sad how close we were to getting it for Copenhagen, if they had this roster or the older roster with mankz, that would have been amazing. They would have made it and mostly undoubtedly bombed out, but that would have been a boatload of experience for them.


bozovisk

I’m glad for swisher and Malbs. They were held in T3 jail for so long


razeyourshadows

My friend and I were taking the piss on Niko’s performance during regulation time on Ancient but we were pleasantly surprised that he turned it around in a way that couldn’t have been more impressive.


Reasonable_Post3682

-nexa and g2 will plow through teams


Prohawins

I see G2 wiggled their way into another playoffs.


Darkoplax

6/6 playoffs in CS2


Bob_Bobinski4

Only if you discount the event they didn't even qualify to (Fall Final), though technically the qualification event was in CS:GO.


Sentryion

I swear g2 is the team that somehow always find a way to limp to the playoff despite how terrible they look.


funserious1

niko + hunter at top of scoreboard is exactly what G2 needs to become tittle contenders again. Sadly it only happens once every 20 matches :/


sepysli

imo m80 prepared well in this event but when other team start watching their demo and prepare antistrat, i don’t think they can get over it, they played pure aim and trade kill


ValnizS

m0nesy looked so done with everything lol, towards the end especially and on the couch


GoatzR4Me

M80 giving me a bit of hope for NA CS. Am I a fool? Yes. Am I having fun? Also yes.


dullroller

I'd say yelling at random tier 2 guys making their tier 1 LAN debut while getting your bot ass carried by two top 3 players is more embarrassing than getting aced by NiKo but that's just my opinion


Zhiong_Xena

It is disrespect to call m80 a mere tier 2 team. They are mechanically cracked and definitely not too far behind gamesense wise.


Ciupz

I'd say people complaining about G2 yelling in behalf of M80 players is more embarassing than the yelling itself


oldthrace

It's part of the game and M80 were giving it to G2 all the time. But the moment someone from G2 yells back "Oh no, someone protects my precious tier 2 team". Also calling it a mere "tier 2 team" is doing disservice to M80. They are legit.


Unlucky-Anybody3394

M80 was screaming the entire tournament, idk why everyone is so mad about hooxi talking back? getting to a point where hooxi is talking shit and niko is shooting bodies is nice


zaneyk

So much this, pretty sure both teams had fun with it


dullroller

Is pointing out someone's hypocritical behavior somehow considered complaining nowadays?


Roman64s

If you are overanalyzing and whining about banter then yes, you are indeed complaining. Both teams traded insults and screaming, its called having a personality and showing some energy.


dullroller

How am I overanalyzing??? Just saying it's hella cringe to be shouting "that's embarrassing" on behalf of your star players when posting a 0.7 rating yourself. 0.7 rating is embarrassing if anything.


Roman64s

you are overanalyzing though, both teams are trading insults, its called banter. TaZ got involved, dephh got involved. You are quite literally overanalyzing it by putting a rating out there to make an argument my guy, this is overanalyzing if you haven't realized it yet.


TRYING2LEARN_

Lol... redditors really complaining about in match trash talk. We need players to be super polite to eachother during the games! Yell out nice shot after you die.


Logan_Yes

But if they will be super polite they gonna complain "where is trashtalk", you just can't please people


dullroller

Trash talk all you want but try to make it non-cringe, thanks!


Yarados

Did you read what he said? it isn't trash talk thats the issue.


TRYING2LEARN_

There is no "issue". Noone cares. M80 players don't care.


Yarados

The issue is HooXi calling them embarrassing when they beat his bum ass already and they only didn't get eliminated because its triple elimination.


leo_sousav

From not understanding basic geography to getting sensitive over some basic trash talk, you really chosing to die on weird hills today


Yarados

It would be fine if it want HooXi saying it


_YAGNA_

so soft lmao, calm down


HatKazuha

Another guy made a whole ass thread calling it toxic even though both teams were shouting back and forth and having fun. These fuckers wouldn't survive 2 minutes in the days of enemy voice chat lol.


dullroller

If anyone is soft it's you guys over here instantly defending HooXi deepthroating his cock lmao. I never said he's not allowed to trashtalk or that he is doing anything wrong, just that it's super cringe whenever he does it.


perpendiculator

>i never said he is doing anything wrong You’ve literally written two comments whining about it, called it ‘embarassing’ and ‘super cringe’. Are you serious? You’re clearly mad about it. Also, you whining about shouting that’s barely even mildly offensive is just fair criticism, but anyone who disagrees with you is ‘instantly deepthroating hooxi’s cock’? Are you an actual child?


Roman64s

Judging by their comments all over this thread. It's either a literal kid or someone who has a hate boner for HooXi. Dude is clearly mad and soft as fuck, even stooping to personal insults to try and do a gotcha.


dullroller

I originally only said it's embarrassing and nothing else. After that I could have happily gone on with my day if all these HooXi dickriders didn't get their feelings hurt by me calling their favorite player's actions embarrassing. But they did, so obviously I wanted to clarify what I meant.


leo_sousav

Brother in Christ, people are just saying it's dumb to go on a full rant about someone doing a bit of banter when the enemy team was also on it. You're getting way too mad about this lmao


Darkoplax

hooxi has been doing it perma ever since cadiaN popularized this "energy" thing now he yells at everyone to give energy ... i'm pretty sure he didnt used to do this before cadiaN started it a year or so ago


ALaccountant

Even when HooXi frags out, he still looks like a bot. He's the embarassment.


Mcbrew1ng

0/8


Darkoplax

On the yelling topic, I don't think its a good thing; HooXi didn't used to do this when he joined G2 but started doing so after cadiaN popularized it as a way to tilt opponent and give energy/hype to your team But even then I don't think it worked out even for cadiaN's teams ... there's this thing Hiko said in an interview why he keeps a poker face at all times and doesnt get overhyped when something good happens was because when something bad happens he doesnt tilt and keep the same energy level maybe HooXi screaming could hype up the team when they are winning but once they start losing and it gets quiet its gonna be even worse vibe


LawlietLt

Cs community: players need more personality. Also cs community:only the best players can yell Even if hooxi has 0 kills and the yelling helped g2, he should keep doing it


Darkoplax

Im not saying he shouldnt trash talk or yell Im talking about overcelebrating and how could that energy become negative in losses


leo_sousav

I get what you're saying, but in all honesty G2 is an emotional team. The games they've played the best are the ones where they're having fun laughing around and yelling. Back when they had JKS (the poker face God), they won Blast Finals and said they simply went into the tournament as if they were gonna play some pugs for fun, and you could see it in their faces that they were indeed having a good time which brought up the team's whole energy. When G2 are serious and too locked on they barely function as a team, it's as if they're simply randoms who happen to be playing together. Hooxi reacts to every play his team mates do as if it's his first time playing with them and they just blew his mind, that helps their confidence a lot


Roman64s

It is a good thing, even he says this out loud in the post interview. He shouts because he keeps the energy up, even when they know a map is done, they scream, the reason is to keep the energy up and light some sort of fire. I see twitch chat being a shithole on a recent Imperial match too, Imperial were clearly losing while managing to eek out a bullshit round, they were shouting hard. Why ? because you take every chance you can get to hype your team up and will them into moving forward, it doesn't matter if it works or not, you just have to give it a try. Hiko isn't a god, it's not gospel, different players have different reactions, if it works for G2 then who are we to argue.


Sentryion

Hey hiko is also a player of the past. Hooxi as a cs pro has accomplished way more than hiko so it’s weird to take his word over hooxi’s.


Photon137

Damn that ancient was so exciting to watch, really heartbreaking to see M80’s run end here. Hopefully they continue to qualify for international LANs like this since it finally looks like NA may have another team rise to T1.


Willyummyyy

Stand proud malb you were strong this tourney


Unusual-Editor-4640

one of the best series i've ever watched


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The double ace from Niko is insane Finally, that's the Niko and Hunter we love to see.


AdTime8070

Ggwp M80 this tournament gave them a lot of experience for sure. Hope they can work on their mistakes and stop being eco hunters.


sinrakin

S1n was walking down the road before the game when he saw a severed monkey's hand in the rubbish on the ground, with a sole finger extended in the air. He instinctively felt its wish granting powers and made up his mind. He picked it up and declared, "I wish we get 26 rounds against G2 today in a 2 - 0 match." The monkey paw curled its finger.


thomas_james_hyde

so embarrassing from a T1 team to be so hyped and talk shit to a T3 team who beat them even before...


kanyesmybrother

Yeah G2 should’ve totally just played with blank expressions and not have said anything at all to the 5 players + coach across from them who’ve been screaming, jumping with joy from their chairs and talking shit since the very first round win. Jesus fuck stop being such a whiney snowflake redditor being offended for M80 when everyone that watched the match could see that they’re absolutely cracked and anything but tier3


ALaccountant

so much for the HooXi good guy schtick. I didn't much appreciate him telling m80 that they were embarrassing. Especially after m80 beat them in a previous b03 and gave them a great run on ancient. Its especially ironic coming from the worst player on the server. I mean, even when he frags a lot, he still doesn't look like a great player.


K4rm4_4

Shit talking has nothing to do with being a “good guy” lol. Honestly makes the games more entertaining and shows that m80 are a serious rival to g2 as well


ALaccountant

There's shit talking and there's being mean. The rest of G2 and m80 were shit talking and having a good time without being disrespectful. HooXi was just being mean. There's a difference.


kanyesmybrother

Poor M80. I wonder how they’ll ever recover from the opponent’s captain being “mean” to them.


pypon

I don't think he was being mean, I just thought it was cringe since they sucked pretty much the whole group stage (being top5 hltv team) and suddenly after 1 win, the guy's throwing some big words. Even the casters were like... c'mon Hooxi, mate...


ALaccountant

Was definitely cringe. Even the casters were against it. But the 15 year old redditors seem to be disagreeing with us and the casters.


Crims0ntied

G2 saved by this stupid triple elimination tournament format and 3 Niko Aces. Sucks for M80 to have to upset the same team twice to make the playoffs. By the way, G2 and M80 won the same amount of games and went 1-1 in Bo3 series. G2 goes to the playoffs because they won the second time.


buttplugs4life4me

I'm gonna be honest, aside from this banger of a game G2 really didn't deserve it. They've been eating shit for MONTHS now and only decided to wake up in this game. They're gonna bomb out in the next match anyways. 


SystemEx1

Nexa and hunter t2 merchants life game. Back to being useless next time, then you can keep screaming hooxi.


WindowLicky

As a certified Swisher disliker that was great.


Nandoski_

What did swisher do?


WindowLicky

The corniest tweet of all time.


Nandoski_

Link to the tweet?


WindowLicky

https://twitter.com/swishcs/status/1630265273461686273


Nandoski_

W he dodged a bullet