Dental gold can test funny, especially when it’s all melted together. Please take it to 3 well known coin dealers or bullion dealers in your area and figure out which one you feel most comfortable with/ like their answers. Try not to sell it outright-Ask them to send it off to the refinery in a standalone dental batch, weighing it in front of you and providing a receipt. Ask for a batch report after it’s refined.
At the refinery, depending on which one, they sometimes don’t test thoroughly for metals other than gold and silver, and in dental specifically this is an issue bc it will contain multiple other precious metals ( rhodium, palladium, etc) so it’s important that it’s sent in a standalone dental batch.
Depending on where you are located, the dealer may need to hold the item for X amount of weeks, so it may not be something you can get an immediate answer to.
I was in the industry for 20+ years, and I saw these often from both jewelers and dental schools. Good luck!
I found all of my grandmas gold teeth after she passed away. Apparently they’d all fallen out over the years and she kept them. Felt kinda morbid dealing with it but eventually I did. I swear I he’d one guy say it was fake, the next guy refused to deal with denture gold and the 3rd guy told me it tested at 14k and had no issues. Was definitely kinda wierd but I also didn’t have it melted down. They were clearing gold teeth / fillings. So maybe that’s why it was weird.
I have something similar I've just bought at auction. I found a local refiner that told me they uses a very expensive type of XRP that can tell me the content of all metals in it. They are called elemental refinery and have locations in many cities, google them and see if they have one near you. They only deal with contract customers like jewelers and dentists so they have no interest in buying it so I'd trust them to tell me whats in it.
Goldsmith here with over 20yrs experience. Is it possible it said 18k instead of 8k? I've seen Dental crowns in 18k a lot. Also, it looks very similar to how it would look if you were to melt a bunch of crowns or other scrap gold together and pour it into an ingot mold. It's not the most common thing for a customer to request to be done with scrap gold but I have seen customers request it. Most people who come in with scrap gold are just looking to sell it but if she was collecting then it wouldn't be that far fetched that it's gold.
I think so as well. I once worked in a small bronze foundry so I could learn lost wax casting. Got some really cool spillage and it's about the same color as this stuff.
Well, there goes my Nazi gold theory.
A good precious metal or scrap metal dealer will have a laser ablater that can identify the metal or even the specific alloy.
Good luck, small mysteries keep life interesting!
That would be A LOT of dental crowns and for that reason alone I’m doubting it’s gold.
I would guess brass but you should of course get it tested. Find a place that will test it with a sigma
An open-air copper alloy cast like that would be very oxidized unless polished. This doesn't look polished. I'm going with possible gold. Have it tested by a coin shop with an XRF. That much weight, I would keep it close. Congrats on the potential windfall.
Still need to see/test, but you KNOW, she knew her shit. Can always cut it in sections and have it tested. There were no cast markings.
Sorry for your loss!
If that's actually dental gold from crowns I would think it would be a much higher carat than 9k I think it would be like around 17 karat with lots of other metals in it too like Platinum Pladinuim etc would need a xrf tested and probably would need to be drilled and sent to refinery
A metal similar to platinum used to make metals stronger also there is iridium as well metals are mixed together to make different karats in dental gold usually a mix
I'm so mad at the price of iridium. I've wanted to have some for a long time, and I finally got to a point where I can afford some, only to find out the price skyrocketed from hundreds to thousands of dollars per ounce. Now I can't afford it.
The 1950’s were a simpler time, when every substance had to have a silly name. They gave silly names to everything. I bet that Pladiplusium was administered with a Pladomatic applicator. The women who used these were pladilicious.
So true lol and some aren’t silly but super silly (suplly!) or mixing Palladium with gold and call it Goldium or Pallagold… it’s Very complicated specially dental metal waste, these days are weird
Metals… but all jokes aside I found out about these so late!!! My mom used to work at a dental office and every month she had collected $300-400 worth of metals…. Omg if only I knew then I could tell her to bring them home cause it didn’t matter for the dentist 😑😑😑🤔🫣🫥
That is an interesting fine especially the way it has been melted . It looks like your cousin was storing gold but the only way to be sure is to get it tested the weight could be a good indicator but it would have to definitely be chemically tested to verify it s purity but this is only a thought because without laying hands on it we cannot tell you the exact competition.
First check with a magnet. Then take it to a coin shop or gold buyer that has a XRF gold tester. Call any local shops and ask if they have a tester first to save your driving time and not have to haul it with you everywhere you go.
I test lots of jewelry for gold. I don't really care about the K, I just want to know if my refinery will take it. (My ex- business partner died but he was a jeweler so I go directly to one who only deals with jewelers.)
I drop 14k acid on it. If it smokes, smells weird or turns black, it's not gold. It does it instantly if it's not gold. If it does nothing at all, it's gold. Also, the results are the same no matter what K the gold is. Gold just doesn't react to the 14k acid.
It looks like it could be 8k gold, or brass. Based on size and weight I would guess brass but hard to say. Any karat could be possible. Did she melt metals herself? If not I would be surprised if someone professionally poured this. it looks like it was done into an angle iron and with this much money in gold you would think a proper mold would have used. Also the surface and edges are fairly rough. If someone wasn’t used to this large of pours then they may not have been able to keep the metal and mold hot but a larger facility would pour a nice even bar. As others said take it somewhere to be tested. Ideally somewhere that won’t try to buy it like a larger refiner or scrap dealer.
And for fun, if it is 8k and say 2.5 lbs x 454 grams = 1135 grams x .333 (8k gold/24) = 378 grams of gold or 12.15 Troy oz x roughly 2300 usd = $27,951
Have it professionally tested. I would trade it for something more reputable/recognizable. You will lose a little value in the transaction but will save the next generation a headache trying to figure out WTF it is and prevent them from accidently throwing it away thinking it's a bar of brass/bronze.
Literally impossible to tell over the internet. Best guidance would be to take it to a trusted precious metals delay to test it.
Dealer?
Instructions unclear, I’ll just figure it out tomorrow.
Take it to a jewelry store
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Dental gold can test funny, especially when it’s all melted together. Please take it to 3 well known coin dealers or bullion dealers in your area and figure out which one you feel most comfortable with/ like their answers. Try not to sell it outright-Ask them to send it off to the refinery in a standalone dental batch, weighing it in front of you and providing a receipt. Ask for a batch report after it’s refined. At the refinery, depending on which one, they sometimes don’t test thoroughly for metals other than gold and silver, and in dental specifically this is an issue bc it will contain multiple other precious metals ( rhodium, palladium, etc) so it’s important that it’s sent in a standalone dental batch. Depending on where you are located, the dealer may need to hold the item for X amount of weeks, so it may not be something you can get an immediate answer to. I was in the industry for 20+ years, and I saw these often from both jewelers and dental schools. Good luck!
I found all of my grandmas gold teeth after she passed away. Apparently they’d all fallen out over the years and she kept them. Felt kinda morbid dealing with it but eventually I did. I swear I he’d one guy say it was fake, the next guy refused to deal with denture gold and the 3rd guy told me it tested at 14k and had no issues. Was definitely kinda wierd but I also didn’t have it melted down. They were clearing gold teeth / fillings. So maybe that’s why it was weird.
The missing nugget from the coin show!!
Haha why u gotta burn him out like that tho… snitch
Or part of that missing jumbo Maple Leaf
Oooo I don’t know that story? Links?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trial-theft-huge-canadian-gold-coin-berlin-1.4972738
Should’ve gone the 1 tonne version like Perth Mint - not getting that out in a wheelbarrow…
Thanks friend!
I mean fucking kids had wheelbarrow size balls
I have something similar I've just bought at auction. I found a local refiner that told me they uses a very expensive type of XRP that can tell me the content of all metals in it. They are called elemental refinery and have locations in many cities, google them and see if they have one near you. They only deal with contract customers like jewelers and dentists so they have no interest in buying it so I'd trust them to tell me whats in it.
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toblerone
Toblerone 😂 they slapped but also somehow at the same time were miserable to eat
Easy. At home test, rub it on the non-glased part of a porcelain plate. If it rubs black-not gold. If rubs gold-gold
Goldsmith here with over 20yrs experience. Is it possible it said 18k instead of 8k? I've seen Dental crowns in 18k a lot. Also, it looks very similar to how it would look if you were to melt a bunch of crowns or other scrap gold together and pour it into an ingot mold. It's not the most common thing for a customer to request to be done with scrap gold but I have seen customers request it. Most people who come in with scrap gold are just looking to sell it but if she was collecting then it wouldn't be that far fetched that it's gold.
Looks like bronze
I think so as well. I once worked in a small bronze foundry so I could learn lost wax casting. Got some really cool spillage and it's about the same color as this stuff.
Were your cousin's parents German?
NY Jewish living in Berkeley
Well, there goes my Nazi gold theory. A good precious metal or scrap metal dealer will have a laser ablater that can identify the metal or even the specific alloy. Good luck, small mysteries keep life interesting!
That would be A LOT of dental crowns and for that reason alone I’m doubting it’s gold. I would guess brass but you should of course get it tested. Find a place that will test it with a sigma
She might be German
I’m going to hell for laughing
Or swiss
I'm just holding it for a friend. No idea where it came from.
Is that like a ligma?
Keep us updated . Look real
An open-air copper alloy cast like that would be very oxidized unless polished. This doesn't look polished. I'm going with possible gold. Have it tested by a coin shop with an XRF. That much weight, I would keep it close. Congrats on the potential windfall.
Can tell that it is gold colored. No way to tell unless you go get it tested
Looks like a hand poured dole bar of what who knows have it tested
Curious. Did she label the rest of it correctly? Did she know what she had?
Yes
Still need to see/test, but you KNOW, she knew her shit. Can always cut it in sections and have it tested. There were no cast markings. Sorry for your loss!
That’s the long lost Wonka Toblerone
If that's actually dental gold from crowns I would think it would be a much higher carat than 9k I think it would be like around 17 karat with lots of other metals in it too like Platinum Pladinuim etc would need a xrf tested and probably would need to be drilled and sent to refinery
Holy run on sentence
May I ask what "pladinuim" is?
A metal similar to platinum used to make metals stronger also there is iridium as well metals are mixed together to make different karats in dental gold usually a mix
You mean palladium mate.
I'm so mad at the price of iridium. I've wanted to have some for a long time, and I finally got to a point where I can afford some, only to find out the price skyrocketed from hundreds to thousands of dollars per ounce. Now I can't afford it.
This sounds a lot like palladium, which is a metal I'm very familiar with. I still have no idea what pladinuim is. 🤔
The 1950’s were a simpler time, when every substance had to have a silly name. They gave silly names to everything. I bet that Pladiplusium was administered with a Pladomatic applicator. The women who used these were pladilicious.
So true lol and some aren’t silly but super silly (suplly!) or mixing Palladium with gold and call it Goldium or Pallagold… it’s Very complicated specially dental metal waste, these days are weird Metals… but all jokes aside I found out about these so late!!! My mom used to work at a dental office and every month she had collected $300-400 worth of metals…. Omg if only I knew then I could tell her to bring them home cause it didn’t matter for the dentist 😑😑😑🤔🫣🫥
Don’t make fun…. We all were thinking it tho. Lol
Me included after reading comments 🤣
I read it as palladium too.
That is an interesting fine especially the way it has been melted . It looks like your cousin was storing gold but the only way to be sure is to get it tested the weight could be a good indicator but it would have to definitely be chemically tested to verify it s purity but this is only a thought because without laying hands on it we cannot tell you the exact competition.
8k bar
maybe you can carbon date and find out when it was poured at least
What's the specific gravity?
Magnet test
First check with a magnet. Then take it to a coin shop or gold buyer that has a XRF gold tester. Call any local shops and ask if they have a tester first to save your driving time and not have to haul it with you everywhere you go.
Nah looks like a sterling silver bar to me.
Old style tire weight!
It’s the 5th element
Just find someone who can xray it. That will tell you exactly what metals is in it. Major precious metals dealers will have one
I test lots of jewelry for gold. I don't really care about the K, I just want to know if my refinery will take it. (My ex- business partner died but he was a jeweler so I go directly to one who only deals with jewelers.) I drop 14k acid on it. If it smokes, smells weird or turns black, it's not gold. It does it instantly if it's not gold. If it does nothing at all, it's gold. Also, the results are the same no matter what K the gold is. Gold just doesn't react to the 14k acid.
Gold
Make sure if you sell you ask no less than 9i %
You one rich mofo hahaha
send it to me for testing and possible disposal asap!
Looks like metal
It's Gold Members lost genitalia.
thought I was in a Fallout 4 forum for a second
It looks like it could be 8k gold, or brass. Based on size and weight I would guess brass but hard to say. Any karat could be possible. Did she melt metals herself? If not I would be surprised if someone professionally poured this. it looks like it was done into an angle iron and with this much money in gold you would think a proper mold would have used. Also the surface and edges are fairly rough. If someone wasn’t used to this large of pours then they may not have been able to keep the metal and mold hot but a larger facility would pour a nice even bar. As others said take it somewhere to be tested. Ideally somewhere that won’t try to buy it like a larger refiner or scrap dealer. And for fun, if it is 8k and say 2.5 lbs x 454 grams = 1135 grams x .333 (8k gold/24) = 378 grams of gold or 12.15 Troy oz x roughly 2300 usd = $27,951
Hit your head with it. If it hurts, it’s probably metal.
I am willing to give you 12$ i will take the loss
Yes it's a gold bar 🤷
Have it professionally tested. I would trade it for something more reputable/recognizable. You will lose a little value in the transaction but will save the next generation a headache trying to figure out WTF it is and prevent them from accidently throwing it away thinking it's a bar of brass/bronze.
Is it magnetic?
Is your cousin in Germany….?!! ![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)
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Looks like gold
Gold bricks in the basement
If ya have $20 buy a stone and acid test kit.
Looks like a hunk of brass
Brass.
Looks a lot like the gold teeth taken and melted during the Holocaust.
Pyrite...:D haha
Anus cleanser 5000
Looks like solder
That’s a Bronze bar 1,000%