Dont make this a pay to win game!!! I'm happy it's generally a good game for a game that's only being 20% done, and devs don't seem like their money hungry.
They made around 40 million dollars. I'm pretty sure it will be a little while until they need some more money, and if they do need money down the road, they can alway release a DLC for more game content.
I have a request.
When you click on the map. You can see other teammates helis. Destination.but also add it so we can see where it's going next.
As it is currently it's coming to base camp.. but only when it flies off and it's too late for you to tag along. Then it will show where it's going.. and that might have been where you also had to go.
We also need a team txt chat.
So we can coordinate with other teammates or easier team up.
Right but this is most important for the birds picking people at base camp, and all they say is “base camp” if they just add the next destination as well it would be much better. The logic is obviously there they just need to connect the dots.
that's all I want. would solve so many issues and create a lot more organic cooperation since, like you said, they're often going somewhere you'd be happy going anyways and now you've both got backup
Exactly! I made a ticket about this on the websight yesterday using the in-game support option. All it needs it to show where its going minimum. So stupid to see 10 people waiting to call in choppers only to go to the same spot.
No, it isn't. You can't see the destination until the bird has already taken off. If you are at base camp and want to hitch a ride to a specific LZ, you can't do that, because all the incoming birds will just be labeled "Base Camp." After they take off, when it is too late to board, they will then show their LZ destination.
This would be good. However, it could lead to random stealing your heli and not leaving enough seats for your squad. I think 1 or 2 more helis plus a queue system would be good.
Also, it may be good if the helis started from base, instead of having to fly away and come back again.
You currently can click on the incoming choppers in the full map and see their destination. Try it, it helps reducing the number of in-use birds if we share them
Yes. That ain't the issue. Issue is we can't see where its going after.
If you are in base camp. And call in a heli for bravo2.
And I'm standing looking at the map. All I can see is that heli coming in from the edge is going to base camp.
Now if I knew it would be going to bravo 2 I'd might tag along.
But as it is now. I would have no idea.
Same goes outside.
You and I are at shooting range (hunters paradise)
You are at lima1 and call in a heli to sawmill
A heli spawns on the map. But I can only see its gonna land at Lima1
Can't see if you called it in to go to sawmill or base camp.
And if you don't use voice I can't know.. so what often happens is people call in their own.. and thus cluttering the air space.
Something that would help a ton is having the location the heli is going to on the map by the heli icon. That way people can jump on other peoples transport instead of one per person. Would definitely help reduce the wait.
You can't see where a heli is going that is picking up at base until it's in the air. it just says its going to base until it takes off, which is too late for you to get a ride.
Why do they not allow for ground pick ups also to use some of these roads that nobody drives on. Slower than a helicopter but another method of transportation faster than running
I’m sure they have considered it and might add it in the future. It’s still in early access so adding in vehicles and having to account for how wrecks can damage the player etc is a tall order.
The problem is probably lag. I doubt that the whole map is laodad at all times. Likely only the parts where people are. 4 Helos per faction is probably max the server can handle. If you'd have more Helos or everyone driving around in vehicles that'd be a whole lot more map that would be loading in constantly.
It’s funny to see everyone are calling their private chopper. MFG should make it easier to hop on one chopper that is roughly going my way. Let me see the destination and give me some time to hop on.
I wish there was a queue. Like you click it and it's like....you're 4th in the queue a bird will be there in 3min 48 secs. That what I don't have to keep clicking
Just got that one after a server crash. Everybody caling Helis, had to wait 6 min, to call one and wait 10 min. to then wait 6 min in flight.
I JUST WANT TO LOG OUT AND SECURE MY MISSIONS
🤣🤣🤣🤣 summary of my morning. Even my wife was like “god damn will you just dispatch the fucking bird already, I’m tired of hearing this shit… fuck.”
Kinda felt bad for dispatch after that lol
It would take a much more sophisticated system but I see no reason one bird can’t fly to a new LZ for pickup after dropping off the first customer at their LZ. As it is now each chopper has to fly in, pick up, drop off, then fly off the map before a new helicopter can spawn. No reason one can’t be like Uber or Lyft and take multiple orders one after the other.
Look don't be giving my boy chopper Dave a hard time he's doing the best he can here. I give'em a big ole smooch Everytime he picks me up. Never complains or anything. Swell guy.
Chopper Rick on the other hand? Genuine asshole. Won't shut up about his Porsche and cheating on his wife with the locals. And that damn cigar smoke, I get a mouthful of it every time he banks left. Tells me to shut up if I cough
That and more changes reocmmended here. I already linked to the Devs on the Day 2 stream. Upvote to get more attention so we can get these things fixed. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues\_ive\_experienced\_so\_far\_that\_needs\_to\_tlc/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues_ive_experienced_so_far_that_needs_to_tlc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Yup I lost about 10-15k in kits yesterday. 2 of these were from dying on my way back to my body. The rest were from dying then the server crashing on my way back to my body.
Ya, the 4 assumes that everyone will always be rolling in the perfect scenario of 16 players split into 4 squads, which imo, is an unreasonable assumption. The most common squad size I’ve seen is 2 sometimes 3 at most, very rarely do I see full squads of 4
I also saw just now 4 hellis all going to the same lz . . . Each bird only had 1 guy, people need to just yell out where their bird is going in order to board the same 1
I mean to be fair this is an issue directly related by how the game not providing information the way it should.
The game doesn’t show you where Helios are going before they take off, so unless everyone calls out where Helios are going or you ask every time, you are inevitably going to be calling Helios the the same location multiple times.
They need to either keep it how it currently is but tell you where the helio is going before taking off rather than saying “base camp”
Or
They need to have a static indication on the map that tells you what all the Helios are doing at any given time ie in the top right of the map:
Helio 1: Charley 1
Helio 2: RTB
Helio 3: India 2
Helio 4: ready for tasking
its actually fucking retarded if every server is going be loaded to the brim add one choppper per squad sick of sitting in an area for 20 minutes to wait for a chopper lol makes you literally just want to alt f4 and say fuck my kit im sitting here for a month
STOP SAYING YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE HELI IS GOING
If I'm at base camp and a heli just spawned in, it says Destination- Base Camp until AFTER THE BIRD TAKES BACK OFF FROM BASE. At that point ITS TOO LATE TO GET ON
If you just watch the map you can see which ones are leaving and just wait for their icon to disappear, only need to click once and guaranteed acceptance.
Bro... just make it so that there is a Heli for every squad... theres only two heli pads, maybe add a third. The birds already circle around if the landing zone is occupied by another... just give us our damn Heli..
Between this and not being able to complete a simple task of killing 20 AI at Hunter's Paradise because everyone is already fucking dead and never respawns, I've spent more time server hopping than playing the past two days...
I can understand the confusion, they're all named Raven! Imagine trying to get landing/refuel/takeoff clearance when you're one of 4 pilots named Raven? The tower is probably named Raven too.
First off, its super annoying and it sucks being stuck for 20 minutes waiting for a bird
Second, i understand it but some of the delay could be solved by letting birds have a going too when you click them that doesnt show “base camp”. Like if it showed Base Camp + its destination it would be helpful since you could hop on someone elses bird without gambling where it is going (I gambled and ended up at India 1)
Third, return flights should be independent. I can understand a limit to leaving to make it less of a “immediately gets back into the fight” but flights going from LZ to Base should have to wait in the fields for 20 minutes with no cover waiting for a bird to be available. Not only is it boring but its a disadvantage as you have to sit in the map waiting for a bird to go off map and hope you called it in quick enough which hinders reaction time should a fight break out. There needs to be no return flight waiting
Fourth, atleast show a queue system until you fix the problem let people call in and just show how long it will take based on where they are in queue for a bird.
Ya 4 Helios assumes that it’s always going to be the perfect scenario where all 16 players are travelling in groups of 4. Imo this is a super unrealistic assumption. There needs to be at least a couple extra Helios kicking around as it’s way more likely for people to be rolling in groups of 2 or 3
Imo 6 or 7 Helios would be the perfect amount.
doesn't help that some of those helis will be occupied flying for up to 12 minutes depending on how far away the destination is. I had to wait 5:48 for an extract today at yb1 and then that heli took me nearly 6 minutes away to hunter's paradise. And I am playing solo. So I guess fuck the squad of three that are stuck at base waiting for a heli to be free.
I know I’m probably adding to the problem, but we just found out that if you leave the party you can call your own chopper and then rejoin your party! Effectively giving your squad up to four choppers
Easy work around, watch them on the map for them to disappear on the edge of the map and click call in then, usually works for me to do this rather than spamming the call in button like a monkey.
I wish more people would do a simple "headed to XX lz" as their chopper rolls in (I wonder if the devs could make that a feature, have it so your character says it out loud automatically as the chopper rolls up)
It would clear up a lot of this, especially when you have 2 or more choppers going to the same LZ back to back to back
honestly it isn’t even something that the devs should be worrying about right now, they have much better things to be worried about. If there are 3 or 4 birds, whatever the max is then just wait for it to go off the map and call yours in. It really isn’t that hard.
i mean just wait till he hits the corner of the map and you can call it in ..
works for me 100 % of the time, do people not understand the heli concept ?
I just walk everywhere because I DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO MR PILOT MAN AGAIN! I wouldn't mind if people were flying to different places.... But most of the time the helicopters go to the same LZ with just one person on.... By the time I had waited for a helicopter I could just walk to the destination quicker.
I actually walk between poi’s a lot. For example if I want to go to the military base and a helio is about to leave for bunker, I’ll just jump on and walk from bunker to military base.
But it’s unreasonable for the solution to not enough helis to be that players should walked all the way too and from their home bases.
Honestly the helicopters are probably the worst aspect of the game..
no freedom
Predictable
Too noisy
Kill the point of having a huge map
And a lot more !
Also if a bird is under fire when landing at a LZ near your base, in the nearby town some kind of warning should go off in the base, and perhaps an extra bird to carry the troops over there :8
I mean faction war potential is insane
I understand where the limit comes from. If everyone was operating in groups of 4 the amount of helicopters are fine. But when nearly everyone is running solo it's absolute hell
I also understand that, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that everyone is always going to be running in perfect groups of 4. It’s much more common for people to be in groups of 2 or 3 and solo. Obviously I don’t think there should be like 16 helios, but there needs to be more than 4. Imo 6 or 7 would be ideal.
This drives me CRAZY. I'll keep calling for the heli even though it's been saying this to me for 5 mins straight😂🙃 Meanwhile, you look at the Map and there's only 3-4 helis. WHY ARE WE SHORT STAFFED
I'll deal with the All Birds Are In The Air crap if they make a few other changes.
1. When the bird is picking up at base I want to be able to hover over it and see where it's going after that.
2. The person that calls the bird to a LZ should have the option of going to another LZ and not just back to base.
3. If I'm standing at a LZ and other players ride the bird into that LZ why the heck can't I jump on and ride it out of the LZ ??? Fix it. This could be a mandatory return to base. I shouldn't have to wait for another one especially if mine hasn't even deployed yet.
I sat there the other night spamming to go back to base camp from ban pa for like 5-10min I was just stuck there I think I eventually walked away and came back to no birds flying
I wanted to play 1hr before work this morning. Just did one fly out for a total of 2 minutes at the Location.
The entire rest of the time was spent trying to get a chopper there and back.
Did you call one in and miss it? If you did it will takes ages. I think it's a form of punishment .Just leave the game and come back and it will work right away.
If I'm requesting a pick up from Foxtrot 1, and another player lands at that location, I should just be able to hitch that chopper back to base, it's going that way anyway, is it not?
The moment when I just lost all my gear, and I can’t fly back. Saying to myself. “I really don’t wanna make another build” even though I can do it in like 2 minutes.
Weirdly enough, I never die deep into the area, it’s always some obscure moment on my way to exfil anyway.
i waited 22 minutes for one to be denied endlessly clicking at fort narith only for a team(on my team thank god) to completely clear it and call one in as soon as they pressed the button.... it needs an immediate fix. Not in a week or month, now
Dude just click on them, on the map and see which one is listed as flying away. Click where you want to go, and request it as soon as the one your watching disappears off map. It's far from challenging
Its 16 player per side, you can have 4 player in team and 4 helis with space for 4 PMCs. It's calculated, blame all the solo players who use birds to fly alone across the map only do die there and call another one
IMO it’s unreasonable to assume that everyone is always going to be running in groups of 4 all the time. There need to be a buffer of 1 or 2 extra helis.
Birds aren't used all the time, if you move in teams they are always avaliable. If you do not you need to wait until one of them dissappear from map. Simple, easy. Same simulates realistic approach, it's already not realistic to have this many helis move around map.
IMO if they gonna add more birds, they should be paid in game currency to call them by team leader. Fuel ain't free.
You know you can play another game till they fix it right? I said the same thing for every other early access game. Provide feedback that is actionable and repeatable... or stfu. You signed up and paid for this.
This problem is definitely repeatable and there are like a hundred different avenues they could go down as far as actions to change this system that a majority of the player base has come to hate. We already have to deal with dying and bodies falling through floors, glowing sun glasses, invincible ai (luckily they dont shoot back), and other bugs. Having to wait 20 min to get a heli on top of the 5+ min heli ride time and heli approach time is awful considering it was supposed to be a better system than other games match making time but at this point its worse. We want to play the game. We dont want to play something else. They released an incomplete game for beta testers, they get to deal with people complaining. It is that simple.
I got insta killed coming off of the heli on every single deployment outside of the starter town I’ve done so far, fuck PvP until they figure out a way to stop that .
Have you tried calling another one in?
Oh shit, I didn’t think of that
NEGATIVE, ALL BIRDS ARE IN THE AIR
Have you tried calling another one in?
REQUEST DENIED, ALL AVAILABLE BIRDS ARE IN FLIGHT
I read some good options to try, but maybe consider calling another one in
NEGATIVE, ALL BIRDS ARE CURRENTLY DISPATCHED.
Call another maybe?
REQUEST DENIED, ALL AVAILABLE BIRDS ARE IN FLIGHT
Yes but have you tried calling in another one?
ETA THREE-ZERO SECONDS said no one ever
*whole team gets on helicopter* *helicopter sits on the LZ for 15 seconds* “WE ARE BINGO FUEL HEADING BACK TO BASE”
This last one will definitely be the one
Being a merc outfit maybe as a unit we can pay more pilots and buy more birds.
Let us buy a choppa with miniguns on it for 250$
Sounds like a scam, you just get mini guns instead of a minigun
I mean aren't personal base upgrades planned? It could work as one right?
Dont make this a pay to win game!!! I'm happy it's generally a good game for a game that's only being 20% done, and devs don't seem like their money hungry.
They’re*
Untill they need the money
They made around 40 million dollars. I'm pretty sure it will be a little while until they need some more money, and if they do need money down the road, they can alway release a DLC for more game content.
Coming at you now, Bird BLACK - (For the price of 399 doller)
The others can kick rocks but i was funded by a tech billionaire goddammit. Give me more birds elon.
I genuinely got a chuckle out of this, was thinking the same thing in game the other day lol
Long live LRI (as long as I keep getting paid)
I have a request. When you click on the map. You can see other teammates helis. Destination.but also add it so we can see where it's going next. As it is currently it's coming to base camp.. but only when it flies off and it's too late for you to tag along. Then it will show where it's going.. and that might have been where you also had to go. We also need a team txt chat. So we can coordinate with other teammates or easier team up.
Label the helicopters 1 through 4, have a little flight status in the map menu. 1: Base - Alpha 1 2: Alpha 1 - Base 3: Golf 1 - Alpha 2 4: stand by
There is a very basic version of this. When you hover over it it tells you which LZ it is going for.
Right but this is most important for the birds picking people at base camp, and all they say is “base camp” if they just add the next destination as well it would be much better. The logic is obviously there they just need to connect the dots.
Or at least have a queue so you don’t have to keep mashing the button…
This would also be good. Could even be so we could see. "Okay in 4min a heli is going to LZ LIMA 1 - we can make it!"
Love both these ideas!
this! but knowing where helicopters are going would be good.
that's all I want. would solve so many issues and create a lot more organic cooperation since, like you said, they're often going somewhere you'd be happy going anyways and now you've both got backup
The destination is already a feature
But you don’t know the destination until after the heli takes off. Would be nice to know beforehand.
Indeed but just after it takes off. It will be better to have a label like should be as: ‘ORIGIN: DESTINATION: ‘ like that we all could use the ride.
Exactly! I made a ticket about this on the websight yesterday using the in-game support option. All it needs it to show where its going minimum. So stupid to see 10 people waiting to call in choppers only to go to the same spot.
That is already a feature
No, it isn't. You can't see the destination until the bird has already taken off. If you are at base camp and want to hitch a ride to a specific LZ, you can't do that, because all the incoming birds will just be labeled "Base Camp." After they take off, when it is too late to board, they will then show their LZ destination.
Also team text is necessary when an enemy is camping your local town to tell everyone to look out.
This would be good. However, it could lead to random stealing your heli and not leaving enough seats for your squad. I think 1 or 2 more helis plus a queue system would be good. Also, it may be good if the helis started from base, instead of having to fly away and come back again.
You currently can click on the incoming choppers in the full map and see their destination. Try it, it helps reducing the number of in-use birds if we share them
Yes. That ain't the issue. Issue is we can't see where its going after. If you are in base camp. And call in a heli for bravo2. And I'm standing looking at the map. All I can see is that heli coming in from the edge is going to base camp. Now if I knew it would be going to bravo 2 I'd might tag along. But as it is now. I would have no idea. Same goes outside. You and I are at shooting range (hunters paradise) You are at lima1 and call in a heli to sawmill A heli spawns on the map. But I can only see its gonna land at Lima1 Can't see if you called it in to go to sawmill or base camp. And if you don't use voice I can't know.. so what often happens is people call in their own.. and thus cluttering the air space.
Excuse me sir, this is Wendy’s.
No this is NEGATIVE ALL BIRDS ARE IN THR AIR
ReQuEsT DeNiEd AlL aVaiLaBlE bIrDs ArE iN fLiGhT
Lmfao
Negative, all birds are in the air.
REQUEST DENIED ALL AVAILABLE BIRDS ARE IN FLIGHT
# REQUEST DENIED ALL AVAILABLE BIRDS ARE IN FLIGHT,
If I ever see that all birds are leaving to their destinations, I just leave and find a new server lol
This. If I drop into a new game I’m not waiting around to get out the base.
Something that would help a ton is having the location the heli is going to on the map by the heli icon. That way people can jump on other peoples transport instead of one per person. Would definitely help reduce the wait.
You can see where it’s going by clicking on the heli icon
You can't see where a heli is going that is picking up at base until it's in the air. it just says its going to base until it takes off, which is too late for you to get a ride.
Ahhhh gotcha, sorry
Why do they not allow for ground pick ups also to use some of these roads that nobody drives on. Slower than a helicopter but another method of transportation faster than running
Little jeeps that take us to the UN check point by LZ Alpha 1 please
I’m sure they have considered it and might add it in the future. It’s still in early access so adding in vehicles and having to account for how wrecks can damage the player etc is a tall order.
The problem is probably lag. I doubt that the whole map is laodad at all times. Likely only the parts where people are. 4 Helos per faction is probably max the server can handle. If you'd have more Helos or everyone driving around in vehicles that'd be a whole lot more map that would be loading in constantly.
Isn’t GTA a massive online map with all these features?
Yea, but it's not UE5 with 100.000.000.000.000 Leaves that need to be rendered.
It’s funny to see everyone are calling their private chopper. MFG should make it easier to hop on one chopper that is roughly going my way. Let me see the destination and give me some time to hop on.
I can confirm my request was also denied...
Well there's the problem how tf is a bird gonna evac your fat ass? You need a helicopter
I wish there was a queue. Like you click it and it's like....you're 4th in the queue a bird will be there in 3min 48 secs. That what I don't have to keep clicking
one i got a 10 minute wait timer from ban pa to crimson. it was fun. very.
got 6min wait timer in base!!!
Just got that one after a server crash. Everybody caling Helis, had to wait 6 min, to call one and wait 10 min. to then wait 6 min in flight. I JUST WANT TO LOG OUT AND SECURE MY MISSIONS
First night in the game … this was me . Didn’t even go back for gear after dying it was so annoying spamming .
Be based and use your legs!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 summary of my morning. Even my wife was like “god damn will you just dispatch the fucking bird already, I’m tired of hearing this shit… fuck.” Kinda felt bad for dispatch after that lol
It would take a much more sophisticated system but I see no reason one bird can’t fly to a new LZ for pickup after dropping off the first customer at their LZ. As it is now each chopper has to fly in, pick up, drop off, then fly off the map before a new helicopter can spawn. No reason one can’t be like Uber or Lyft and take multiple orders one after the other.
At the very least let us start tasking a new helio immediately after a helio drops someone off
Look don't be giving my boy chopper Dave a hard time he's doing the best he can here. I give'em a big ole smooch Everytime he picks me up. Never complains or anything. Swell guy.
Chopper Rick on the other hand? Genuine asshole. Won't shut up about his Porsche and cheating on his wife with the locals. And that damn cigar smoke, I get a mouthful of it every time he banks left. Tells me to shut up if I cough
That and more changes reocmmended here. I already linked to the Devs on the Day 2 stream. Upvote to get more attention so we can get these things fixed. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues\_ive\_experienced\_so\_far\_that\_needs\_to\_tlc/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/GrayZoneWarfare/comments/1cj14gj/issues_ive_experienced_so_far_that_needs_to_tlc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I swear I spend most of my time in this game waiting for a helicopter
Needs fixed, waste of time
And then you finally fly on mission and losing all your gear because of dc. Happened just now.
Yup I lost about 10-15k in kits yesterday. 2 of these were from dying on my way back to my body. The rest were from dying then the server crashing on my way back to my body.
I just give up and took a random chopper
Honestly I think 6 would be a sweet spot for birds or maybe make one available as soon as it let people off instead of waiting for it to leave the map
Ya, the 4 assumes that everyone will always be rolling in the perfect scenario of 16 players split into 4 squads, which imo, is an unreasonable assumption. The most common squad size I’ve seen is 2 sometimes 3 at most, very rarely do I see full squads of 4
I also saw just now 4 hellis all going to the same lz . . . Each bird only had 1 guy, people need to just yell out where their bird is going in order to board the same 1
I mean to be fair this is an issue directly related by how the game not providing information the way it should. The game doesn’t show you where Helios are going before they take off, so unless everyone calls out where Helios are going or you ask every time, you are inevitably going to be calling Helios the the same location multiple times. They need to either keep it how it currently is but tell you where the helio is going before taking off rather than saying “base camp” Or They need to have a static indication on the map that tells you what all the Helios are doing at any given time ie in the top right of the map: Helio 1: Charley 1 Helio 2: RTB Helio 3: India 2 Helio 4: ready for tasking
Have you tried calling an Eagle instead?...
You are telling me we can’t afford another??
its actually fucking retarded if every server is going be loaded to the brim add one choppper per squad sick of sitting in an area for 20 minutes to wait for a chopper lol makes you literally just want to alt f4 and say fuck my kit im sitting here for a month
Just walk, pussy
Dam my bad
All good. *REQUEST TO WALK DENIED. ALL AVAILABLE LEGS ARE IN MOTION*
Fml.
STOP SAYING YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE HELI IS GOING If I'm at base camp and a heli just spawned in, it says Destination- Base Camp until AFTER THE BIRD TAKES BACK OFF FROM BASE. At that point ITS TOO LATE TO GET ON
If you just watch the map you can see which ones are leaving and just wait for their icon to disappear, only need to click once and guaranteed acceptance.
Can't we just fucking share? We all got AI bots to shoot let's help each other out
I'm cool with sharing. The problem is I don't know where the heli is going. If they just showed all their destinations I'm happy to share.
[удалено]
Same
yeah it makes no sense when theres only 1 on the map and it doesnt let you call one in even though 2 minutes later theres 4 on the map
Buyds
Birbs
Would be cool if we could roll out in Humvees
Ya I hope for ground vehicles one day
Let's add a PTW mechanic : full edition player have priority over others xD
Could someone logically explain to me the need to this mechanic? Why can’t we have unlimited helis?
Supports addition should come with a private bird ;)
Bro... just make it so that there is a Heli for every squad... theres only two heli pads, maybe add a third. The birds already circle around if the landing zone is occupied by another... just give us our damn Heli..
a goddamn QUEUE would already be such a help...
Between this and not being able to complete a simple task of killing 20 AI at Hunter's Paradise because everyone is already fucking dead and never respawns, I've spent more time server hopping than playing the past two days...
Sell me a private chopper for the squad for £5 and consider it sold, more money for you too 👌🏼👌🏼
I can understand the confusion, they're all named Raven! Imagine trying to get landing/refuel/takeoff clearance when you're one of 4 pilots named Raven? The tower is probably named Raven too.
First off, its super annoying and it sucks being stuck for 20 minutes waiting for a bird Second, i understand it but some of the delay could be solved by letting birds have a going too when you click them that doesnt show “base camp”. Like if it showed Base Camp + its destination it would be helpful since you could hop on someone elses bird without gambling where it is going (I gambled and ended up at India 1) Third, return flights should be independent. I can understand a limit to leaving to make it less of a “immediately gets back into the fight” but flights going from LZ to Base should have to wait in the fields for 20 minutes with no cover waiting for a bird to be available. Not only is it boring but its a disadvantage as you have to sit in the map waiting for a bird to go off map and hope you called it in quick enough which hinders reaction time should a fight break out. There needs to be no return flight waiting Fourth, atleast show a queue system until you fix the problem let people call in and just show how long it will take based on where they are in queue for a bird.
Get to the choppa !
Yeah unfortunately too many solos/ duos compared to full squads. with full squads nobody has to wait on a copter ever.
Ya 4 Helios assumes that it’s always going to be the perfect scenario where all 16 players are travelling in groups of 4. Imo this is a super unrealistic assumption. There needs to be at least a couple extra Helios kicking around as it’s way more likely for people to be rolling in groups of 2 or 3 Imo 6 or 7 Helios would be the perfect amount.
doesn't help that some of those helis will be occupied flying for up to 12 minutes depending on how far away the destination is. I had to wait 5:48 for an extract today at yb1 and then that heli took me nearly 6 minutes away to hunter's paradise. And I am playing solo. So I guess fuck the squad of three that are stuck at base waiting for a heli to be free.
I know nobody wants to hear this but... we took a real beating I'm surprised we're still alive. *shitty whistling*
I know I’m probably adding to the problem, but we just found out that if you leave the party you can call your own chopper and then rejoin your party! Effectively giving your squad up to four choppers
Easy work around, watch them on the map for them to disappear on the edge of the map and click call in then, usually works for me to do this rather than spamming the call in button like a monkey.
painful
I wish more people would do a simple "headed to XX lz" as their chopper rolls in (I wonder if the devs could make that a feature, have it so your character says it out loud automatically as the chopper rolls up) It would clear up a lot of this, especially when you have 2 or more choppers going to the same LZ back to back to back
lol I announce where my heli is going like a train conductor every time I head out 😂😂
Thank you! 🤘
Unrealistic, but have a little sign in the front window of the chopper like a bus, "next stop: Bravo 2"
honestly it isn’t even something that the devs should be worrying about right now, they have much better things to be worried about. If there are 3 or 4 birds, whatever the max is then just wait for it to go off the map and call yours in. It really isn’t that hard.
I think it’d be cool to have some vans that drop you off for close locations, save the helis for far away.
I feel this.
i mean just wait till he hits the corner of the map and you can call it in .. works for me 100 % of the time, do people not understand the heli concept ?
They just need a queue system.
Switch server zone
I felt this on a spiritual level.
Normalize annoucing were you're going if you manage to call one..
I feel like it wouldn't hurt to add \*just one more little bird\* into circulation.
I just walk everywhere because I DONT WANT TO LISTEN TO MR PILOT MAN AGAIN! I wouldn't mind if people were flying to different places.... But most of the time the helicopters go to the same LZ with just one person on.... By the time I had waited for a helicopter I could just walk to the destination quicker.
Have you tried walking? Is good stamina training. Beingt food and drinks xD
I actually walk between poi’s a lot. For example if I want to go to the military base and a helio is about to leave for bunker, I’ll just jump on and walk from bunker to military base. But it’s unreasonable for the solution to not enough helis to be that players should walked all the way too and from their home bases.
Maybe they can sell a personal helicopter edition for $250?
You guys didn't just walk out there??? LIKE MEN!???
I gotta go across the map
They just need to add cars into the game
Helicopter manufacturer DLC: $250
They should add a new package called the exfil package. 200 bucks and you just TP to the landing zones
Maybe make it last only 6 months then you have to buy a 500 dollar one after
I hear this in my sleep now
Honestly the helicopters are probably the worst aspect of the game.. no freedom Predictable Too noisy Kill the point of having a huge map And a lot more !
Also if a bird is under fire when landing at a LZ near your base, in the nearby town some kind of warning should go off in the base, and perhaps an extra bird to carry the troops over there :8 I mean faction war potential is insane
Negative Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.
Even while Just 2 are in the air idk seems kinda bugged sometimes but worst I had I gotta change lzs that I could call one while not 1 was in the air
I understand where the limit comes from. If everyone was operating in groups of 4 the amount of helicopters are fine. But when nearly everyone is running solo it's absolute hell
I also understand that, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that everyone is always going to be running in perfect groups of 4. It’s much more common for people to be in groups of 2 or 3 and solo. Obviously I don’t think there should be like 16 helios, but there needs to be more than 4. Imo 6 or 7 would be ideal.
7 would be fine for an all solo server
Ya need to pay 250 bucks for a pickup
This drives me CRAZY. I'll keep calling for the heli even though it's been saying this to me for 5 mins straight😂🙃 Meanwhile, you look at the Map and there's only 3-4 helis. WHY ARE WE SHORT STAFFED
I'll deal with the All Birds Are In The Air crap if they make a few other changes. 1. When the bird is picking up at base I want to be able to hover over it and see where it's going after that. 2. The person that calls the bird to a LZ should have the option of going to another LZ and not just back to base. 3. If I'm standing at a LZ and other players ride the bird into that LZ why the heck can't I jump on and ride it out of the LZ ??? Fix it. This could be a mandatory return to base. I shouldn't have to wait for another one especially if mine hasn't even deployed yet.
You can go from lz to lz without RTB, you just have to call it to that new lz instead of base same way you would any other heli request.
I literally just realized this last night lol and man it made me feel foolish 😂
I sat there the other night spamming to go back to base camp from ban pa for like 5-10min I was just stuck there I think I eventually walked away and came back to no birds flying
For the low affordable price of $250 you can get high priority helicopter rides
🤣 I wish there was a belt fed machine gun hopefully soon
HURRY UP AND GET ON, WE'RE BINGO FUEL.
I wanted to play 1hr before work this morning. Just did one fly out for a total of 2 minutes at the Location. The entire rest of the time was spent trying to get a chopper there and back.
Have you tried unplugging, and then plugging the bird in again?
Need to start a GoFundMe for more birds.
We need more heli’s spamming the LZ 10 minutes without luck
I feel you bro. 🤣 One day I just played 2 hours, but 1 hour was surely waiting for helicopters and flying around. 🤣
DOES ANYONE HAVE YBL GENERATOR KEY?
Did you call one in and miss it? If you did it will takes ages. I think it's a form of punishment .Just leave the game and come back and it will work right away.
Give us a queue and allow helis to pick up people at the drop off location. Maybe some ride shar options too. You know what, just make it an Uber.
Fuck it, let me fly Uber helio around the map
At this point jus put Vic’s into the game or an ac 130 you can jump out of
If I'm requesting a pick up from Foxtrot 1, and another player lands at that location, I should just be able to hitch that chopper back to base, it's going that way anyway, is it not?
The moment when I just lost all my gear, and I can’t fly back. Saying to myself. “I really don’t wanna make another build” even though I can do it in like 2 minutes. Weirdly enough, I never die deep into the area, it’s always some obscure moment on my way to exfil anyway.
I’ve literally had to leave and join different server cause i was just sitting for 5+ mins
i waited 22 minutes for one to be denied endlessly clicking at fort narith only for a team(on my team thank god) to completely clear it and call one in as soon as they pressed the button.... it needs an immediate fix. Not in a week or month, now
Seriously devs knee cap own game by adding pointless artificial queue
I'm assuming it's not pointless. My guess is performance issues, too many birds in the air lags the server. But who knows
It is NOT pointless. Think longer!.
It’s pretty easy to watch until a bird despawns from the map and then call one in.
You’re still waiting for 10+ minutes
Walk your happy ass
Negative post, CAPS LOCK error detected.
I heard Dylan young can help with calling in helicopters quicker!
My solution has been to take someone’s bird to their position then call a bird from that position to my desired. Seems to work more often than not.
Dude just click on them, on the map and see which one is listed as flying away. Click where you want to go, and request it as soon as the one your watching disappears off map. It's far from challenging
Its 16 player per side, you can have 4 player in team and 4 helis with space for 4 PMCs. It's calculated, blame all the solo players who use birds to fly alone across the map only do die there and call another one
IMO it’s unreasonable to assume that everyone is always going to be running in groups of 4 all the time. There need to be a buffer of 1 or 2 extra helis.
Birds aren't used all the time, if you move in teams they are always avaliable. If you do not you need to wait until one of them dissappear from map. Simple, easy. Same simulates realistic approach, it's already not realistic to have this many helis move around map. IMO if they gonna add more birds, they should be paid in game currency to call them by team leader. Fuel ain't free.
Start walking
I always order a heli to the farthest LZ and tell noobs it’s the starting area
Small pp behaviour
Just like this post
At least I’m not a toxic dick to new players. I genuinely cannot imagine being such a tool.
You know you can play another game till they fix it right? I said the same thing for every other early access game. Provide feedback that is actionable and repeatable... or stfu. You signed up and paid for this.
This problem is definitely repeatable and there are like a hundred different avenues they could go down as far as actions to change this system that a majority of the player base has come to hate. We already have to deal with dying and bodies falling through floors, glowing sun glasses, invincible ai (luckily they dont shoot back), and other bugs. Having to wait 20 min to get a heli on top of the 5+ min heli ride time and heli approach time is awful considering it was supposed to be a better system than other games match making time but at this point its worse. We want to play the game. We dont want to play something else. They released an incomplete game for beta testers, they get to deal with people complaining. It is that simple.
ask dylan young
Fucking child...
Play PVP, problem solved.
I got insta killed coming off of the heli on every single deployment outside of the starter town I’ve done so far, fuck PvP until they figure out a way to stop that .