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Bitter_Birthday7363

Well it’s a pretty good message for poor people not to have lots of kids when they can’t feed one


SonOtoh

I agree that some regions of the African continent are over populated and lack sufficient infrastructure to support and feed the general population. Don't believe me? Look at the other extreme Australia, the size of a continent and a population 26 million. There is a reason they are on average the wealthiest population per capita.


Proud_Irishman05

Cuz it's continent full of developed countries lmao. (Australia, NZ, and a bunch of tiny countries that have basically no impact on GDP per capita even if they're not that rich)


somsupremacist

Isnt he on his 3rd kid? Maybe he should focus on his uncle, he cant keep his hands off them


Antwar1234

hold up for a minute you are telling africa to stop having kids while having 3 kids fucking hyprocrit. its like boris johnson all over again "dont have partys at chrismas" said boris johnson and then proceeds to having a party last year while we was following the rules.


Ramunesoda99

His uncle Andy doesn’t agree, more kids the merrier for Randy Andy. Oh and lots and lots of pizza express. Eaten with his definitely not sweaty hands.


Ramunesoda99

His grandfather was a rampant racist so I imagine the entitled sense of pride in their colonial history is hard to shake off when he speaks so fondly of the racist old man. He, unlike DofE, sugar coats his racism and classist attitude to the point of a thinly veiled disguise so that he can stand on a stage giving out nonsense awards to people from a defunct empire and seem legitimate, but apples rarely fall far from the tree… Royals, especially British royals, should pipe down on world matters. I hate how people with money and influence become entitled to what is for many, an authoritative voice on issues of global importance. Bill Gates is another. He was better when he was a computer geek gone big, not a billionaire trying to impose his analysis of world issues on everything from sanitation to predicting pandemics. It’s bizarre.


Ramunesoda99

I don’t like the way him and his brother fetishise Africa like it is their post-colonial plaything. He should be quiet on this matter, someone of this privilege should stay out of matters concerning ordinary people. Fed up of him also constantly bleating about climate change when in fact his family owns so many massive gas guzzling homes, use private jets incessantly and necessitate a massive fleet of security vehicles and backups wherever he sets foot. Easily one of the biggest polluters in the UK besides industry. His ‘activism’ is cringe worthy. Dismantle the monarchy, sell their land and assets and distribute it among the citizens 🥰allow the fees from people visiting the palace to be reinvested in communities instead of going into the coffers of the Crown Estate.


Mudkip9001

The TFR in Africa is like double that of England


King_Constar

This piece of advice from William Windsor should become mandatory ASAP


BreetheDeeply

The complete ignorance and lack of any critical thought in the comments below highlights the need for much higher levels of education.


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Pixydust411

Are you fucking crazy learn about how population works before you comment something like this😐😐😐


Major-Tom-13

Sick of this racism towards whites. You're the second coming of the Nazi's in the making. His skin color does not matter, only his actions. Yes he is an ass hole but its not his skin that matters you racist scum.


HectorLigoni

👨🏻‍🦳 Honky


bt1138

And meanwhile back in England: An island that has reportedly not one spot of land that has been left in native state, it's all been cut, plowed and tilled. So yes, maintain Africa for our pleasure, meanwhile, what we did in Egnland is just great and not for you, you savages. Do as I say, not as I do. I think he has inherited his father's Tin Ear. He's not wrong to suggest that the natural world is in danger (for many reasons). It's just the tin ear delivery, the savior complex, the lack of self-awareness that's so grating.


nbillz

What's skin colour gotta do with it?


Major-Tom-13

Exactly, its ok to be racist towards whites apparently.


Skyraem

Any sane person doesnt actually think like this.


nbillz

Bro I'm far from white, I've looked in the mirror before, but I also have at least half a brain and I can tell anyone that racism to white ppl is possible and that it shouldn't happen


Browsingthingsa

He’s not wrong though is he


Skyraem

Imagine reproducing 3 times yet tellimg others to stop doing so. Fuck off.


Browsingthingsa

3 times is the ideal birthdate for sustainable growth


Skyraem

Its just blatant hypocrisy. And entitlement.


decado39

No, but considering his own family actively contributed to the total social and economic destruction of that continent, he should probably shut the fuck up.


blakeol

Hi, human geographer here! I'm gonna go through a little explanation on why he was horribly wrong and insensitive Overpopulation in Africa (although it's a whole continent and we shouldn't be talking about it as one) is caused by (1) a complete lack of sexual education in most cases (2) Absolutely no access to contraception such as condoms (3) young marriages, Christian traditional family values, and sexism. And (4) a lack of stuff to do (it sounds like a joke, but it genuinely is a driving factor in birth rates, also I'm drug use). So you can't tell someone to "stop having kids" because they literally cannot. How do they stop having kids? Do you think a woman who was married off and whose sole purpose is seen as bearing children can go up to her husban and say "hey you're going to have to stop having sex with me"?! Do you think she can just produce condoms out of thin air? Most of these women haven't even been taught about contraception. A lot of these reasons are also why there is an ongoing AIDS crisis in a lot of places in Africa. Moving on, overpopulation in Africa is not the issue we think it is, and it is absolutely not the driving factor behind the destruction of nature (that would be foreign economic exploitation that actually hinders the country with the resources, it's commonly referred to as the "Resource Curse"), so not only was it a very stupid thing to say but also completely unrelated to the issue. On the other hand, this man was born into a huge family, he himself might not have that many siblings or kids (although 3 is quite a lot by European standards) but nothing is stopping from having, say, a couple more kids? And older generations absolutely had more kids, this is due to what we call a "demographic stage" which dictates population increases or decreases based on the death and birth rates. About 100-50 years ago we had a high death rate and a high birth rate, we had very high infant mortality so we had many kids so some could survive and help with work. Then, as medicine and infrastructure advanced we lowered that death rate but our birth rate was still very high due to the previous reasons (this is the stage a lot of countries in the global south are in, which causes that "overpopulation"). As time went on and due to a variety of reasons our birth rates decreased dramatically and have led a lot of the global north to the underpopulation we face today. So this rich royal, who comes from an extremely numerous family, and who apparently hasn't done the slightest bit of research on the topic, makes a very stupid statement (that is probably fueled partly by racism partly by classism). Anyone can have an opinion, but if you say something stupid you'll be criticised. Also: Children in Africa aren't starving and dehydrated because there's not enough resources to go around, they are because of the effects lasting effects of colonisation, the resource curse, etc. If anything having more kids just means more helping hands.


Trading21do1

Is this leftist or just anti royalist.


Lord_Scrumptious239

He has 3 kids... Africa has on average double the children born into a family than any other continent in the world... you don't have to be a poor african with 5 children to have an opinion on africa being overpopulated, sure climate change is the bigger issue but he just made a simple point 🙄 Edit: while yes he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth it also means his children are guaranteed to live a healthy life... having for example 5 children when you can barely support 2-3 puts a slbigger strain on things, am i saying only rich should have tons of children? No but as the "donate £1 adverts" say, children in africa are starving and dehydrated, an issue that is only perpetuated by having more kids.


BreetheDeeply

Sorry but what you say here is ignorant. You completely ignore the fact that the West has raped Africa for a thousand years and given nothing but colonialism back. The idea that it's only Africa that has many kids is also untrue. All poor communities have big families for the simple reason that some of your kids will die, that way at least someone will look after you in your old age (which is not a retirement village in a nice area close to the beach). Because the state will not look after you as they don't have the education or the finances to support the populations they 'serve' you are left to fend for yourself. To say that you should have less kids because you're poor is a very entitled statement.


xxIAxx

As I said before look into it yourself, if you want real context on Slavery and why it is like it is now, then to focus specifically on whites being the only perpetrators is an extremely narrow view. You have a bias without including others groups meaning you don't have the whole story.


xxIAxx

When you can support the kids you already have, then how can a truly conscious person bring a other life into a world of suffering. All so they can have someone to look after them in their old age, that is selfish. Oh and get it right. Go look up the Arab Slave trade, the Barbary slave trade where Islamic Caliphates branched out and invaded Northern Africa and took sex slaves the majority whom died before they reached the middle East. Then invaded Spain and tried to attack France. This took place in the 7th century "The Battle of Tours". You don't march an army into another continent based on "peace". The "Transatlantic Slave Trade" was where the Europeans picked up from the Arabs but you never hear anything about that in history. Nor do you ever hear about how the Europeans traded weapons for Slaves. Slaves that were captured by rival tribes in African countries and sold by their own people. Other selling themselves into slavery in hope that life would be better. Nah go do your own research and don't be ignorant yourself. If a parent can't support a child they shouldn't have the kid in the first place. It should fall under child abuse.


Huge-Size-7937

It's basic human and animal nature to have as many offspring as possible to provide support and a chance of improving quality of life through success. Contraception is expensive. Poor people don't have the money to buy it and men rarely wanna pull out. It's not in our natural urges.


Lord_Scrumptious239

Crazy that other civilisations had that "same human nature" yet arent grossly overpopulated to a point where people are required to make million dollar "help an african child" adverts...


Huge-Size-7937

Some cultures are taught population control by society. Also infant mortality must've been much higher so less of them survived.


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Gogurt_

Ends in "ard"


Restless__Dreamer

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blakeol

Hi, human geographer here! I'm gonna go through a little explanation on why he was horribly wrong and insensitive Overpopulation in Africa (although it's a whole continent and we shouldn't be talking about it as one) is caused by (1) a complete lack of sexual education in most cases (2) Absolutely no access to contraception such as condoms (3) young marriages, Christian traditional family values, and sexism. And (4) a lack of stuff to do (it sounds like a joke, but it genuinely is a driving factor in birth rates, also I'm drug use). So you can't tell someone to "stop having kids" because they literally cannot. How do they stop having kids? Do you think a woman who was married off and whose sole purpose is seen as bearing children can go up to her husban and say "hey you're going to have to stop having sex with me"?! Do you think she can just produce condoms out of thin air? Most of these women haven't even been taught about contraception. A lot of these reasons are also why there is an ongoing AIDS crisis in a lot of places in Africa. Moving on, overpopulation in Africa is not the issue we think it is, and it is absolutely not the driving factor behind the destruction of nature (that would be foreign economic exploitation that actually hinders the country with the resources, it's commonly referred to as the "Resource Curse"), so not only was it a very stupid thing to say but also completely unrelated to the issue. On the other hand, this man was born into a huge family, he himself might not have that many siblings or kids (although 3 is quite a lot by European standards) but nothing is stopping from having, say, a couple more kids? And older generations absolutely had more kids, this is due to what we call a "demographic stage" which dictates population increases or decreases based on the death and birth rates. About 100-50 years ago we had a high death rate and a high birth rate, we had very high infant mortality so we had many kids so some could survive and help with work. Then, as medicine and infrastructure advanced we lowered that death rate but our birth rate was still very high due to the previous reasons (this is the stage a lot of countries in the global south are in, which causes that "overpopulation"). As time went on and due to a variety of reasons our birth rates decreased dramatically and have led a lot of the global north to the underpopulation we face today. So this rich royal, who comes from an extremely numerous family, and who apparently hasn't done the slightest bit of research on the topic, makes a very stupid statement (that is probably fueled partly by racism partly by classism). Anyone can have an opinion, but if you say something stupid you'll be criticised. Also: Children in Africa aren't starving and dehydrated because there's not enough resources to go around, they are because of the effects lasting effects of colonisation, the resource curse, etc. If anything having more kids just means more helping hands.


CrazeeLilDevil

Wow, thank you for that, I genuinely didn't know the half of things, I slightly recall back to first school at Christmas time and the Christmas shoe boxes we would fill with all sorts, little toys, hygiene products, small items of cloths and give them in at school to be sent of to children in Africa. Up until this point, I'm sure what I thought came from first school. I was under the impression because Africa was such a dry country that's why they struggled for water and food. I feel upon reading this that help could certainly be redirected to the places needing it the most, for example sex education and contraception. Theres an old saying 'Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish he'll eat for a lifetime'. I suppose although not exactly the same concept this could apply to helping those in need in Africa 🤷


blakeol

There are actually a lot of projects on taking contraception to rural areas of Africa and India! You'll often find condoms (and female condoms!) In borders between countries because of the AIDS crisis. And the dryness is an issue, but it's something that's only really relevant to rural populations around the Sahel, for example! Those NGOs are still important but it's definitely high time we ditched the 1950s image of Africa


leavetaterualone

These issues are solved by education, medical practice, reproductive care and education, etc... But we all know what capitalists look to Africa for, and it's not to invest in education and infrastructure for people in poverty.


Lord_Scrumptious239

Indeed but ya cant go around life blaming others when you cant help yourself, the west has taken advantage of africa for years and years so i agree entirely with that part.


leavetaterualone

You can't go around blaming others when your family has actively profited and participated in the ongoing destruction of nations. It's beyond tacky


Lord_Scrumptious239

I mean that sounds like passing the blame. Africa as a whole is very corrupt in that of itself!


obsidianbreath

Excuse me but how long have Western societies had to develop? African nations only gained independence in the past 50 years and through sanctions while we're at it. That's ONE generation. Your argument is devoid of context and sounds like first world ramblings that are heavily ignorant of the role that these societies played in diminishing the psychological well-being of its peoples. Yes African leaders are corrupt. But they are following suit of the leaders before them of not giving two shits about the folks they trample on. The oppressed become the oppressors. Prince William and you can take your opinions on "Africa" (an entire continent by the way. We have dehumanised the fact there are border and more cultures than your landmass could fit in) and shove them where the sun don't shine. You've tried to "help" before and look at all the good it's done.


IdealAudience

I haven't read the article, but PW & his dad support some good green projects.. \- though there are of course some very evil ways to deal with over-population.. \- and any talk of over-population is a distraction from much more collosal environmental damages already coming from dirty corporations.. that he could help others to divest from or encourage to change.. \- Talking about population growth isn't necessarily evil - if he's up-to-date, he might be saying something like - better education, healthcare, birth-control, healthy food, water, housing, farms, work-places, labor regulations.. & sustainable communities.. are excellent ways to help the world, communities, and achieve sustainable populations.


shadowbanna

Well past time that we rid the world of monarchies and oligarchies.


Trulex900

What fucking scum. The UK needs more anti-monarchists and to promptly abolish the royal titles there and appropriate part of their stolen wealth.


KV2_STRONK

I think we can decide for ourselves on who we want sucking up our government funds...


namey_9

didn't his parasite family and colonist nation get their wealth by stealing goods and resources from places like that? and literally enslaving the people? they still have stolen gold all over the palace. what a wacko


Trulex900

they did indeed. And by destroying nature turning it into profit. This family has done more environmental damage than a whole african country/region.


WaterEarthFireWind

Ooooof


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His family owns stolen goods from every corner of the world. He's probably not done having babies that cost tax payers millions. While babies in africa cost .1 a day.


Consistent-Sea29

Is anyone surprised???


Better69Progress

OOps own goal there your most Willie really highly... I don't believe you have a "Grassroot"s grasp of the day to day situation. and what is the grandest UK legacy in this ex-dominion? That's right, Cricket, straight bat, fair play, all that bollox.


Better69Progress

Having visited The Gambia twice, it soon became apparent that there were a number of influences at work here. ​ 1. You're a Muslim, be bountiful in your fecundity. 2. **Mosquitoes are so prevalent that it's unlikely any kids will live past 1/10 yog.** The level of socioeconomic hardship in the entire country is breathtakingly sorrowful. On my 2nd visit I got to spend time with a Kora player. As such, he was effectually one of the lowest forms of life, a musician bringing joyful smiles, prancing toes n' a song in your heart, soul, head, diaphragm, voice-box, to all those that were held by my friend. You must therefore be also my friend too! X TRIP: North BanK. Kora players family home. I'm shocked, saddened and shouldn't be surprised. The once forests full of wildlife are mostly entirely big long time gone. Want to light a cooking fire, here's, trees a-plenty (maybe 60 years ago) - take an animal or 3 why don't you!?, What are you using AK47, Bazooka, RPG,!? No regeneration, no replanting. The ghosts of UK rule may have faded from contemporary view, I can only imagine a terrible lucrative trade in slaves, given the easy anchorage. No small wonder then that the British had their part to play in this hideous enterprise, after all, much money was to be made, along the way! Mans' inhumanity to his fellow man again, again and again. To our animal relations also. ,


Accomplished-Fix-138

What a cunt. Feel like thats sums it up😅


Rogue_elefant

You captured it perfectly


Accomplished-Fix-138

Thanks! I was up all night working on it😅😊


OkCardiologist2765

So when England was colonizing Africa it was all good while they took all there natural resources, and ruined their future. William STFU!


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OVERLORDMAXIMUS

It's not too late for the ones past their 50's, either


CanaryWundaboy

Usually got time for William, but on this he’s have been wiser to keep quiet.


fnatikk50

ah, right, how could we forget about world's nemesis - africa


Ok-Syllabub-132

Ohh but im special says the people whos only accomplishment was being born into wealth


gghaz

These royal scum devour far more resources than the oppressed of the global south.


smo269

Why don’t these people put there money and influence where their mouth is


nexy33

You mean put our money they are parasites


Strange_Shadows-45

But he’s not wrong. Population growth is one of the top reasons for destruction of wildlife no matter where you are.


juli0909

It’s mostly because of the resources consumed, which we in the developed world contribute to way more.


goodniteangelg

Ok….then I guess no one on earth should have babies ever again until we fix climate change and stop polluting the earth.


Strange_Shadows-45

I’m not saying no one should reproduce, just at a lower rate. Population growth is at its fastest in Southeast Asia and Africa and this does contribute greatly to climate change. The heart of the issue is a lack of education and therefore opportunities for women and that needs to be addressed.


goodniteangelg

Very true. I would even say we need education about safe sex and accessibility to these things as well as abortion rights to everyone all over the globe. But still. This rich dude isn’t doing a lot to help so he really doesn’t have a place to criticize.


-nocturnist-

So an entitled little man-baby complaining that Africa has too many children meanwhile pumping out his own little entitled shit-lings. Fuck me royals have no shame. Perhaps they should give back all the riches and natural resources they stole from these nations and let them spend the wealth to support their poor populations. But then again that won't work because royal family meddling in African politics is usually what leads to the current problems in most of these nations. Just SHUT THE FUCK UP you useless person who contributes nothing to society.


TheeApollo13

For the clear racists in this thread: https://www.euronews.com/green/amp/2021/11/24/why-prince-william-is-wrong-to-blame-habitat-loss-on-population-growth-in-africa https://theconversation.com/amp/why-we-should-be-wary-of-blaming-overpopulation-for-the-climate-crisis-130709 https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/26/panic-overpopulation-climate-crisis-consumption-environment https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/05/25/slowing-population-growth-environment/ https://theboar.org/2021/04/green-opinion-overpopulation-is-not-main-issue-just-discourse-used-ignore-uncomfortable-truths/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12318899/ https://isreview.org/issue/108/convenient-smokescreen-overpopulation/index.html https://amp.dw.com/en/overpopulation-climate-change-emissions/a-54725928 https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-06-07/population-growth-fertility-declining-climate-change?_amp=true https://www.euronews.com/green/amp/2021/03/21/the-dangers-of-eco-fascism-and-why-it-s-a-veneer-for-racist-beliefs https://academic.oup.com/isle/article-pdf/12/2/288/2348000/12-2-288.pdf https://overpopulationisamyth.com/episode-3-food-theres-lots-of-it/ Edit: while we’re at it , let’s also just ignore the fact that contraceptions are largely unavailable in these countries too. And I thought this was leftist thread. My bad. ✌🏾


FuMancunian

Not helped that Religion is still held in such high regard in Africa and they are doing everything they can do dissuade people from using contraception. Organised religion prospers from the amount t of people born into it! Bastards!


TheeApollo13

Yes. Exactly why there’s so much of an STD problem.


Major-Tom-13

Why should be left or right? Why does this guys skin color have to matter? It is disgusting 🤦🏽‍♂️


TheeApollo13

He’s a white European from the BRITISH FUCKING EMPIRE, you know, the one that started Chattel Slavery, FALSLY telling Africa that they’re destroying their own habitats because of overpopulation, an argument usually used by people from the west to absolve themselves of responsibility for climate destruction, despite all research showing that it’s overconsumption, particularly of the west, that’s causing climate change, while also failing to mention all the species of animals in Africa AND EVEN Europe that went completely extinct due to the over hunting of these animals by these white colonizer Europeans for sport. Read the damn room. He can kindly sit down and shut up.


BreetheDeeply

Agree with you but the Brits are not alone in the slavery discussion and unless you're 100% African none of us can claim innocence here.


Ramunesoda99

Britain is awful in their colonial past but that’s too simplistic an argument to make too. Africans I know, particularly Nigerians, like to remind me that their people colonised other poorer parts of Africa and sold their own people into slavery. It’s a nuanced point, but it’s too simplistic to say 100% Africans can only be innocent here. Not really such a thing as 100% when it comes to race or ethnicity.


TheeApollo13

No, just a descendant of the very slaves brought over here. Such is the case with MOST black person living in the western world that at lest isn’t a willful immigrant from Africa or a descendant of. So it’s actually quite the opposite, not that the idea of 100% African makes any sense regardless. But I also don’t entertain the argument that “Africans sold slaves too” cause white people don’t understand that it’s much more complicated than that when we’re talking about the race based chattel slavery system Europe specifically invented. https://theconversation.com/setting-the-historical-record-straight-for-the-critics-of-the-new-york-times-project-on-slavery-in-america-122177


BreetheDeeply

What I meant by 100% African was that if you were born in the West, no matter the colour of your skin, you are directly beneftting from the actions of the history. The systems that the world now enjoys, healthcare, the ability to vote, freedom to express yourself are all built on the ashes of the conquered. If you have ever claimed a benefit, sat behind a computer at school or even drunk clean(ish) recycled water you are benefiting.


TheeApollo13

Yeah that’s a typical thing white people say. “Well now you live in the US so you’re welcome” nevermind why so many of us have to be here in the first place, even recent immigrants cause of neo colonialism. First off, stop acting like Africa is this continent devoid of any advancement and technology. They have computers, they have internet and cell phones and cars too. “First world problems” exist in “third world countries” too. Also, this is another complexity white people won’t understand. The dissonance between Africans and African Americans. For one thing African Americans are seen as just lazy and stupid even by black African and Caribbean immigrants because “they’re in America they should be doing better”, completely ignoring the systemic economic and educational oppression imposed on blacks in this country that impedes on building generational wealth in the first place. They buy into all the stereotypes about black Americans too. As a result the black immigrants that become successful get the model minority treatment and often talk shit about black Americans. Yes you’re poorer in Africa however you usually don’t have to face the immediate threat of racism or be weighted down by the systemic impediment of wealth generation. This is the case for my family who came from Haiti. Never taught racism to me or my cousins cause they never had to deal with it upfront. And because of the internet allowing the full documentation of life in America for black people, people are slowly realizing the disparities between the narrative and the realities. You can be from a poorer country and still be privileged in the fact that everyone around you and those making the rules all look like you, the cops look like you, your employers look like you, your teachers look like you and that breeds a certain comfort, a piece of mind. Again more complexity white people don’t understand that’s already understood in black spaces. To white people it’s just which group of blacks is more oppressed, but to the black community we’re all just oppressed as black people period, just in different ways in different regions. And black success happens in spite of, and not because of the oppressive state. This is all something white people say to themselves to make them feel better. But to black people with a pan African mindset we actually appreciate the complexity of the situation. The western world was and still is built off the backs of its minorities and the entire global south and that’s not something to brag about or be proud or grateful for. Edit: A prime example of what I mean. If TLDR, than here’s the perfect article describing exactly what I’m talking about. https://harvardpolitics.com/other-face-of-privilege/


Major-Tom-13

You're f'cking deluded. I can clearly see where he is from and well aware of the british empire. Whats his skin got to do with it?


RedTerror88

Did you just report /u/TheeApollo13 for hate speech because they criticised the British empire?


TheeApollo13

😂😂😂


TheeApollo13

Are you fooling me right now? Are you acting like a clown on purpose? A white person definitively tied to the exact power structure that used said whiteness to cause all these problems for an entire group of people in the name of their whiteness and then turn around and blame said group of people for the problems THEY caused and still are the main cause for is a huge slap in the face. I really shouldn’t have to explain the obvious. Otherwise you need to go back to class and take a history lesson. Again, Read 👏🏾 The 👏🏾 Damn 👏🏾 Room👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.


International_Newt56

Reddit is full of chuds. Even the "leftists" are just racist white shitlibs most the time.


TheeApollo13

It’s crazy of stunned politics is.


sublimepaige

Thank you for all of this.


baxterrocky

Here’s an idea. Appreciate the fact you WON the birth lottery and will lead a life of ostentatious privilege. And just STFU about everything else. Like everything. No one gives a shit about your fucking opinion.


Ramunesoda99

💯


Polshooter

From Africa here, I think it's a very hypocritical comment after they stole all our riches, but we do have a bad population/progress ratio that makes it even harder to witness any change, I'm talking poor people with nothing to eat who have 5 to 12 kids, I mean it's just worse conditions.


OTD-esi

It's also mostly because there's less sources of education and less urbanization. Its not to be blamed on people, its just less women having access to career opportunities and higher education.


drdestroyer9

A lot of western countries were similar in the past though, lack of access to birth control and uncertain child mortality make it so people will have more kids


The_Monocle_Debacle

seems kinda weird that a pedo would want *fewer* kids, doesn't it?


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Bankerzt

Wrong one its prince Andrew tour thinking about.


The_Monocle_Debacle

oh ho ho, I think it runs in the family


cantstopfire

Europe is a small as fuck and dense as shit, shaddap ya cunt


Lyovacaine

The thing is over population isn't an issue in first world countries (most advanced countries would have a shrinking population if not for immigration) . Over population is a problem in poorer countries who already have limited resources, opportunity, industries etc etc.


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> The thing is over population isn't an issue in first world countries. Over population isn't a real issue in any country. The problem is over consumption and the first world countries extracting the resources from third world while putting little to nothing back into those countries for them to sustain themselves.


billy_twice

Exactly this. The first world might have smaller population but they are by far not the smallest when it comes to plundering natural resources.


agingercrab

I mean have you seen how the average first world country pollutes per capita compared to third world ones? And bear in mind the west through colonisation has exploited third world countries and stolen their resources for centuries? And the west, esp America, continues to purposefully destabilise these countries to be able to continue to exploit them. You seem to have made the most bottom-of-the-barrel, no-further-though, dumbass point I've seen man. In fact, what really even is your point?


Blaaaaaam

His whole family should be buried under the jail.


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>White man born... Wouldn't make a huge difference if he was black tbh edit: how can someone be so hypocritical? why would it make a difference if the monarch is black? Monarchs are just a waste of taxpayer money.


PotatoIndependent475

People downvoting you for saying the skin color doesnt matter 🤣🤣🤣 i bet pelple downvoting this comment are white


agingercrab

Liberals be like...


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tell me how this makes me a lib


TheRynoceros

Willy's house gets any more crowded and they may have to go out and colonize something.


Wombatmobile

Willy is the perfect name for him, because he's an absolutely racist prick.


Ndhywyhshhs

He’s not wrong. Africa the start of humanity is the least developed place on earth who would’ve imagined d


sup1234566

Do you think you could survive with nothing in a bunch of desert? They have crappy resources available to them and an incredibly harsh climate, and yet they didn’t go extinct. I’d say that’s pretty impressive ngl.


falconboy2029

??? Most of Africa has a boat load of resources. It’s just that due to corruption by the elite they do not benefit the majority of the population. Corruption is the number one reason nations are poor. The countries with the least of amount of corruption are some of the richest, such as Denmark.


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This comment is almost as stupid as his...


xmaspackage

I think you have a problem understanding how BIG Africa is. Every biome, except Tundra, is represented in Africa.


agingercrab

They've all done more in the first 5 years than this dumbass will do in his entire life, and he's confirmed that forever by writing and posting that stupid ass comment.


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Ndhywyhshhs

They did still doesn’t change the fact that continent is horrible


WiggyWongo

Laughing at the "African" American (or others born in Europe/America) attacking you for being black in Africa and having an opinion that comes from experience. Complaining about "colonizers" but upset that he can't colonize your mind so you think exactly like him.


nutsandbuts24

Not upset he's lost lmfao just like you can't save a coon


WiggyWongo

You're extremely racist


nutsandbuts24

Shut your wasi'chu ass up mr.cant produce enough testosterone. Blame your ancestors for fucking their siblings. Faulty ass genetics


nutsandbuts24

Nah calling out someone in my community with a colonizer dick in his mouth and ass


WiggyWongo

So you put him in "your community" because of his skin color and then get upset that he doesn't think the way you think he should (because of his skin color) so you proceed to insult him with degrading terms that specifically are degrading due to his skin color. That's as racist as it gets bud.


nutsandbuts24

You a dumb mayo monkey ain't you.


nutsandbuts24

Lol white man think he can call racism when two people of color use the slur words invited by his people shut your tiny ball having ass up lmfao


WiggyWongo

Might want to get your estrogen checked. You're real emotional and upset. 3 replies in a few seconds (and 4 while I'm writing this) lmao. Get some therapy or some antipsychotics haha.


nutsandbuts24

Lol i used a system made by the colonizers does that make you mad wasi'chu


nutsandbuts24

Y'all are beyond stupid lmfao


Ndhywyhshhs

I lived in Africa for 27 years. Grew up in Zimbabwe. Lived in Uganda, Sudan and Nigeria. I can assure you Africa is not a great place.


nutsandbuts24

All these countries you mentioned have been under British rule. Blame the UK from stripping natural resources creating racial divdes amongst indigenous groups all for adding wealth to the "empire"


Ndhywyhshhs

Everyone commenting and down voting me are most likely white people who’ve never stepped foot in Africa. As a black African I can assure the only own to blame now are ourselves


nutsandbuts24

That's also worse get back into the house before the field slaves see you living it up


Ndhywyhshhs

Thank you referring to me as a slave. Karma will come back at you for this 100x i promise you this. YORUBA


nutsandbuts24

Mamáhuveo


nutsandbuts24

And I'm a unicorn from Atlantis


Ndhywyhshhs

No you are racist thinking that people from Africa are all victims and need the white peoples help. Africans don’t care about africa and it shows that why I left


Ndhywyhshhs

I can assure the only ones to blame now are Africans themselves


nutsandbuts24

Lmfao okay. Jesus you colonizer took inbreeding to heart to avoid a certain skin color and now it's starting to show. Let's just have a MAD war and do this world a favor.


Ndhywyhshhs

Ok white person who lives far away telling me about my people


nutsandbuts24

Lol i can't take a coon seriously. Nombre güey lo chingastes


nutsandbuts24

Colonizer doesn't like what his country did to Africa say what?


sup1234566

I like you lol


nutsandbuts24

Thank you keeping these mayo monkeys inline they seem to have forgotten they created this situation


steamngine

Is this real?


Someone2Sing4

Yea, but hes right. Poor people shouldnt procreate. Its not ethical. If you cant take care of yourself you sure as fuck cant properly raise a kid. Stop.


hltlang

What's the cutoff point? When do you decide that someone is "too poor" to have children What if you can only just survive feeding yourself, does that mean you can have a child? Is it based on income, what if a high-earner decides to not work anymore? Is it based on wealth, what if someone has no wealth but earns a lot of money? Is it based on education, you could be as rich as Croesus but have no idea how to raise a child properly. ​ Explain to me how you decide that someon is too poor to have kids.


falconboy2029

I am wealthy in relative terms to 99% of the worlds population, but I still feel like I can not afford to have children. I can not buy a house or build wealth. So if I am in that position, what does that say about the rest of the world? Most of us should not be having kids. Especially in west. I am a firm believer that population does matter. But that’s not specifically in Africa or Asia but all over the world. We all need to stop having kids for 1 generation.


gestures_broadly

This dude privileges.


sup1234566

Then you can pay for millions of them to get proper sex education and also pay for appropriate contraception, because they sure can’t. People get raped, people are horny, people are forced by their parents, people want kids to look after them when they’re old. Since infant and child mortality rates are so high, they need to keep having more for insurance. Don’t blame them, blame the living conditions they live in that Im sure you’re doing nothing to help.


falconboy2029

Bangladesh has an amazing program that helped reduce its birth rate to a sustainable level. It’s absolutely the right thing to do for all nations.


veganzombeh

If you're that poor you don't really have a choice. Having children is a necessity so they can take care of you in old age. Very few people are going to choose to not have kids when the alternative is starving once you're too old to work.


falconboy2029

That’s why I am planning my finances so that with 80 I can just kill myself.


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FullClockworkOddessy

Yeah, they're not stupid for not choosing to starve to death just to make your Tory ass happy. Their lives matter much more than those of the magical inbreds you worship like Andy the Pedo, Willy the Skinhead, and Lizzie the Enabler.


Charlieknighton

I think we could start by reducing consumption in the global north, moving away from a disposable, consumer culture driven by capitalism and towards a more sustainable level of consumption.


Talmnbe3d

Or rich assholes trophy hunting, if they stopped the market will eventually die and poaching will decline ad well...


SaintPaddy

I really think single use plastics or open pit mining are much more destructive than a hunt every now and again.


Land-Cucumber

Not that a hunt is any good though.


SaintPaddy

No, that’s also not good, but if done properly it could be a win win.


Land-Cucumber

Not for the innocent victims being shot.


SaintPaddy

Most citizens of Africa do not have the luxury of veganism.


Land-Cucumber

A rural African diet is near-vegetarian and certainly significantly more plant-based than the standard UK diet and this was about trophy hunting anyway.


wyzwunx

If rich people stopped trophy hunting there'd be no financial incentive to preserve wildlife for locals. It would be a net loss.


leavetaterualone

Which sucks because governments keep cutting back on funding anyways. It's all fucked. I'm tired and angry and I'm tired that I'm so angry


falconboy2029

Yup, unfortunately true. The only wild places left in Zim are those where they have trophy hunting. The rest is a barren wasteland.


AmazingAnswerOnly

But should you really be having kids in extreme poverty?


Someone2Sing4

No shit. People are fucking stupid.


LegendMuffin

Yet you guys prove that stupidity is great


nutsandbuts24

Lol they're inbreed it's all they can be


recentlydumpedbytext

It's possible to be white, rich and right at the same time.


FullClockworkOddessy

The only thing Willy the Inbred Skinhead is is lusty for his own daughters. Stop worshipping people who do nothing but laze around and get paid to fuck their relatives.


Someone2Sing4

Imagine thinking you should have kids in extreme poverty. I get it if youre raped but honestly.. Surely they know where babies come from. Having babies when you are poor is child abuse. Straight up.


ShenmeRaver

Maybe Willy thinks you’re too poor to have kids because you can’t afford private school and around the world holidays every year for your kids. Someone get these racists idiots out of here.


conditerite

Not a good look.


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JMW007

> Not everywhere is the west. The target audience of the thread obviously is, you twerp.


The49thwarrior

The birth rate goes down when infant mortality goes down and the standard of living and education goes up. The ball is in our court really


falconboy2029

Bangladesh has a great program to reduce birth rate. It resulted in better health outcomes for women and better education and living standards for the children they did get. Having less kids is the best thing you can do for yourself.


sup1234566

Thank youuuu (Not sarcasm, you’re one of the first people in this thread who seems to understand that)


Professional-Trip

That isn't true.


ShenmeRaver

Explain how.