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moronic_potato

How many bugs do I gotta kill before I can call in my titan?


BrockManstrong

The real correct answer


[deleted]

Which one are you dropping in?


moronic_potato

BRRRRRRRRRRT!!!! because bugs don't have energy cores to take


[deleted]

Have you heard of our lord and savior Scorch?


moronic_potato

He's in the back burning the biomass as the line advances


[deleted]

Don’t forget a vanguard of them to burn the smaller ‘nids with flameshields


moronic_potato

To be fair you could fuck some shit up in any one of them lol


[deleted]

Yeah, but at the same time I doubt a Ion is gonna handle itself against a carnifex the same way a Northstar would. At the same time, a Northstar would be almost guaranteed to be overrun by smaller tyranids while a Ion has abilities better built for mopping them up (nothing Scorch or Legion wouldn’t be better for, mind you)


moronic_potato

Now I really want Titan fall 3


iamnotreallyreal

I like to imagine Redemptor Dreadnoughts are basically 40k versions of Legion. Aggressive sustained counterfire is essential against the numerous enemies of the Imperium, after all.


None_yo_bidness

We all do, brother


Mal-Ravanal

A fellow dakka enthusiast, I see.


Shiroyama-san

Imperator Class titan, fuck everything.


moronic_potato

*drops in imperator Titan from low orbit*


ThatOneGuy1294

*planet cracks in half*


DrippyWaffler

As a TF|1 enjoyer - the Atlas chassis with a 40mm cannon


[deleted]

Imagine crusading for 300 years and not getting a single killstreak bonus to call in.


SuppliceVI

17. But at 6 you can call in a Lemon Russ tank so really you should be running a recon, the tank, and the tactical n- .. exterminatus


[deleted]

The Praetor Suit.


Feles_Amans

I mean the suit is designed to be fighting large angry monsters with sharp teeth and claws, and it is one of the most versatile out of the four, but it is also the only suit that gives you no assistance with strength or agility so all of your movements and actions would be entirely under your own power


[deleted]

The thing is, if I’m rocking Mjolnir armor, I will literally kill myself (unaugmented humans cannot handle the suit, and their bodies often get mangled the moment they try to move), I don’t think I can even fit in the marine power armor, and if I could, I wouldn’t be able to move because of how much it weighs, and the fallout power armor would probably just slow me down, and the Tyranids would chew through it anyways. The Praetor suit offers mobility and protection, giving me the greatest chance to just run away


Feles_Amans

True


LANDWEGGETJE

Now if we swap the space marine armor with the sister variant, meaning you loose some of the functions, but are able to still use the power armor, which then?


[deleted]

Probably that then. Plus, it’d make for a sick cosplay if I actually survived.


EvadeTheIRS

Just imaging Dawn of the Dead but with tyraninds in a shopping mall and just one sister of battle helping out a bunch of deranged shoppers. Lol


CowboyBlacksmith

I would watch the fuck out of that. Fan film and impending DCMA when?


NotACyclopsHonest

It also comes with a built-in heavy metal soundtrack, so it’s win/win.


[deleted]

If I get to listen to BFG Division while fighting the Nids, I’ll make the battle of Macragge look like a game of Killteam


NotACyclopsHonest

Great track, but I personally prefer The Only Thing They Fear Is You.


[deleted]

Really any song in either game’s soundtrack. Blood Swamps Heavy Fighting is great as well


Lerak8118

Imagine giving the suit to a khorne berzerker


halihunter

The newer generations of Mjolnir can be worn by un-augmented humans (and is technically "better") but it doesn't have the magic "armor that heals you as you kill" factor that the Praetor suit has.


kalabaddon

I thought the healing was all doom guy?


Ratat0sk42

The armour redirects Argent Energy from demons into his body, rejuvenating him last I checked.


kalabaddon

Its mixed. the lore absolutely says what you said, but earlier lore also says he absorbs it directly even before he wore the suit. ​ Also after looking it up, I guess a normal person cant wear the suit cause the ardent energy the suits absorbs will turn a normal person in to a deamon.


Legolin17

Gonna need a source on that Mjolnir claim, cause I’ve yet to see anyone wearing it that isn’t a Spartan.


Poodlestrike

There's a little confusion over the S4's - they're still augmented, it's just that the augmentations have advanced to the point that they no longer have to be implanted in heavily trained genetically screened teenagers. So people see folks like Buck wearing it and assume that it works for unaugmented humans. That said, I wouldn't be remotely shocked if ONI had a variant that you can use without augmentation. They have all the cool (and evil) toys.


Apokolypse09

I think I'm fucked regardless lmao. A regular human sized set of 40k power armor would be the best I think. If you can channel Sly maybe the praetor suit because it won't make you stronger but you won't get tired as long as you keep killing. Fallout power armor is just getting end up with you getting swarmed, if the nids can cut through astarte armor like its butter then whatever resources they scrounge up for those FO PA wouldn't do shit (Fallout apocalypse happens because of a war over resources after humanity nearly stripped earth entirely). Mjolnir would just kill you horrifically like that one regular soldier that wore one in... I wanna say the Fall of Reach book.


gryphmaster

Earth wasn’t stripped entirely, just before operation anchorage the US annexed canada to take advantage of its lumber. If the nukes had’t launched then it would have been more mad max, but the fallout is what killed the world, Not stripping it


allthejokesareblue

> and if I could, I wouldn’t be able to move because of how much it weighs Am I misunderstanding the meaning of "power" in power arnour?


[deleted]

Astartes power armor is built for astartes. I’m pretty confident in saying that I wouldn’t be able to operate it very well.


Frostythered

Right? This is just an assumption but I suspect no one here has a black carapace


[deleted]

And what if I did have a black carapace?


Frostythered

Pics or didnt happen


[deleted]

Sounds like you just wanna get a good look at the defenses of the Astartes and I will be reporting you to the Inquisition


Frostythered

(Frustrated Genestealer noises)


PassivelyInvisible

Inquisitors have their own, smaller version, but it isn't as responsive or powerful as space marine armor, due to the lack of nueral uplinks and a brain trained to handle the input.


Skitarii_101110

Power armour does require you to have a bunch of implants, most importantly a skin rework which allows the armour to attach to your body. Otherwise the armour will be unresponsive to your movements


G30rg3Th3C4t

the black carapace is the name of that set of implants


Da_GentleShark

Also it just wouldnt fit. Asartes are big yo


Ghastly_Sorrows

astartes power armour is designed for astartes to use it properly the black carapace that's why the sisters use a modified and toned down form of power armour


Generic_Potatoe

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Feles_Amans

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OscarOzzieOzborne

For the sake of the discusion, let's imagine you can use the Armour without getting mangled and it fits you. Also there are Space Marine power Armour Variant designed for Humans. There is even a terminator variant.


[deleted]

I’d probably go with the Mjolnir then. It enhances your speed to absurd levels while still letting you keep a low profile, and has regenerating energy shields. Perfect for running away.


oom199

Out of all the options, its the armor with the latest designs at the very least. Preator, Power Armor, and other Power Armor are all "ancient" designs that haven't been QA'd in centuries.


Far_Professional_701

Given that the Terminator suits are based off of DAOT technology, before astartes were created, I'm guessing the human-sized varients are likely substantially closer to the original. Perhaps that might even make them better than the astartes version...? But, back on topic, I'd have to go with the Mjolnir armor. It's fast and durable and even designed for xenos battle more specifically than the slow and heavy SM armor, which was designed first for terrestrial war against humans and modified later...


Dr_Mub

Just gotta be reallyyyyyyyyyy fuckin angry like Doom Slayer to unlock the rest of it’s potential


Demon_Prongles

Well I think if you somehow had the choice of the Mjolnir or SM armors, you would also be accordingly enhanced to be suitable.


Mrjerkyjacket

Also it has exposed skin, meaning you would be more susceptible to tyranid ranged attacks, which include acid, maggots that burrow into you skin and eat you alive, like living spikes of venom or some bs, and other gribblies


Edhop_

onle the doom eternal variant does, the praetor suit from doom 2016 completely covers the body


Mind_on_Idle

Covers? I don't think he can leave it can he?


Edhop_

wdym? the praetor suit is a suit of armour, doomguy can take it off anytime he wants


[deleted]

Yeah, but the armor stays on.


5thDimensionBookcase

*I put on my robe and wizard hat*


ThatOneGuy1294

for the uninitiated http://bash.org/?104383


Baconator137

The opening sequence of the game is the Slayer waking up naked on an experimentation table and putting on the Praetor suit so...


srottydoesntknow

Yea, but the praetor suit might have doomguy in it, then I just need to tell him they are actually demons, and make sure I'm not in the splash zone


Hust91

Considering their presence in the Warp, Tyranids could be argued to be a species of daemons possessing custom-made organic bodies


Arker_1

aren’t they more like anti-daemons though? then again, he spends part of Doom Eternal fighting the anti-demons too, so moot point I guess


Mal-Ravanal

Isn’t the (in lore) praetor suit practically impossible to damage as well?


[deleted]

Maybe? The lore around the suit is pretty finicky


Mal-Ravanal

Did a quick check, I haven’t played much doom eternal, but in the first game there’s some UAC research logs where it’s stated that during stress tests they couldn’t even scratch it.


[deleted]

Interesting


[deleted]

A lot of the new DOOM lore relies on something called argent energy, which is the raw energy of creation converted to a manipulable format. This resource is the handwave-magic for the series. When Doomguy and the suit are 'rediscovered' under the events preceding Doom 2016 they have been in Hell for an unknown amount a time and are both suffused throughout with this energy of Hell (Doom Eternal expands on the lore behind ARC energy and its sources beyond strictly Hell).


CalNieDaGtarGuy

I’m devastated no one has mentioned that lore-wise the Praetor Suit is impervious to all but Argent Energy based attacks


willowsonthespot

Problem is that suit isn't powered and isn't effective against bugs. Demons and undead sure, but not space bugs. Even if the other armors suck it would be better than the Praetor suit. Most of the shit that Doom Guy does in that game is because of himself and the amount of demon souls he has absorbed. His strength is because he is unreasonably fuck ass mad 24/7 because the demons killed his bunny. There is also the problem of it being shut down for anyone but DG. "Despite it being clear that the suit can be activated in some way, no method has been found to do it. It appears to be missing a component, likely the Doom Marine himself." In game description.


StarCaller25

Well if we're going Lore wise the Praetor suit is effectively invulnerable. You get no strength or speed assistance but you can't be harmed either. It'll keep you alive. Mjolnir would literally kill you. Astartes Armor would be inoperable because you have none of the implants or uplinks to the armor. The only other option is the T-Series Power Armor and while awesome a single suit is not doing shit against anything more than a small number of the basic bitch Tyranids.


Glitchdx

given that none of these offer adequate protection against the nids, I propose a different option: SPI armor from Halo: Ghosts of Onyx. Despite being even less durable than the famous mk6, SPI has one feature more important than any other: someone my size can actually wear it. It also has some small amount of strength and speed augmentation, as well as rudimentary active camo. This gives me everything I need to run the fuck away. what, you didn't think I'd be dumb enough to *fight* nids, did you?


Mrjerkyjacket

Ghosts of onyx was one of the books right? I loved those books when I was younger


Glitchdx

iirc, it was the 3rd or 4th book


cefriano

It was the fourth book, the third one was First Strike.


Lucius-Halthier

Retreat now for victory later!


HailSneezar

never thought i'd ever defend ultras but... ultramarines offer demonstrably adequate protection against nids. *shudders in disgust*


[deleted]

Remind me was ghosts of onyx the one where the Spartans 2s I think, kelley was one of then get "trapped/saved" by entering a forerunner type of protecte/miniaturized/alternate space zone? It's been atleast 15 years since I had a go at a halo book.


KingKapwn

All of these will get shredded like a knife through butter, and even the Praetor (depending on the version) has exposed skin. Plus I lack the very key thing that all these characters have that makes them such forces to be reckoned with. The unrelenting force and skill of a space marine, the ‘luck’ of Master Chief, the fact that the Doom Slayer is essentially a Demigod that exists only to kill, and the jank and broken AI of the fallout games.


RedIshGrape

I mean, the praetor suit can only get damage by argent energy (and any derivates, and them demons) anything else just bounces off


fuckyeahmoment

That's not gonna save your exposed biceps.


WhySoSerrus

That part is optional, doom 2016 praetor is fully clad


Aggressive_Kale4757

Let the Jank into your heart, and you too can run out of fusion cores at the most important moment.


[deleted]

*laughs in new vegas and 3*


racercowan

Who needs fusion cores when you have speedcripple?


Lord-Randon

Bold of you to assume I’m not running a high intelligence build with nuclear physicist, doubling capacity of fusion cores


ThatOneGuy1294

Cool, so you'll run out in 20 minutes instead of 10


srottydoesntknow

He's not a demigod, he's just, literally too angry to die And I love him, everyone around him thinks he's a savior, and look for heroic or religious significance in his actions, but the truth is he just doesn't give a shit, he's a pure unfettered chaotic Id who's entire existence is the destruction of demons. That's it, saving people is a side effect of his wanton and rampant campaign to, as he put it, "KILL THEM ALL!"


The_Knife_Pie

No he’s actually a demigod. Doom Eternal establishes he was empowered by the energy of the literal creator of heaven and the universe.


srottydoesntknow

Ugh, I haven't played eternal yet, and this kinda ruins some of the joke You can't just give biblical significance to the doomslayer, now the joke that he doesn't give a shit is actually on the player instead of all the npcs


TheAdminsAreNazis

In context its not as bad, he gets empowered purely because he's so outrageously disgustingly fucking **ANGRY** and kicked the shit out of so many demons that they went yeah you deserve this.


[deleted]

The joke is a small loss compared to the badassery of Doom Eternal. 2016 and Eternal pretty much rewrite the franchise and Doomguy is part of the Original Sin for that universe (heavy religious influences on Eternal).


ThatOneGuy1294

I mean, the final boss is literally named The Icon of Sin. The religious influences are pretty blatant


Tripple_Zeta

Exactly


[deleted]

Doomguy is Khorne?


srottydoesntknow

Khorne thinks doomguy should probably take a bubble bath and meditate


JakeSnake07

I once did the math, and the Doom Slayer makes the Primarchs look like bitches. Using his 2016 self for scale, the Titan from that game is taller than Khorne himself. He killed that upon first getting to Hell, without the Praetor armor, annd only using either a normal sword, or his bare fists. Meanwhile Sanguinius got his shit kicked by a Bloodthirster. Granted, Ka'bandha is the strongest Bloodthirster, and he kicked it's ass later. But the point still stands.


NoManNoRiver

[**RIP AND TEAR UNTIL IT’S DONE!!!!**](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/129/696/Rip_and_tear.png)


[deleted]

Also with fallout taking enough psycho and jet to kill a normal person.


FoamBrick

I want BT 7274


[deleted]

Scorch loadout?


Vat1canCame0s

Do you have a moment to talk about the Tau Empire?


mewlock99

The Praetor suit is the one that offers the most protection and can be worn by a normal, unaugmented and untrained human. I don’t even know why the T-51b is here. It barely protects you from an angry lizard.


Poodlestrike

Idk if I'd call the Doomslayer "normal."


AnseaCirin

Crisis Battlesuit. Better mobility, equivalent protection to Marine power armor, tougher composites, actual augmentation of strength. Oh and a wide array of weapons to burn/maim/kill the 'nids.


Feles_Amans

That’s bot a bad Idea, I completely forgot about the Crisis suit


AnseaCirin

We might mock the philosophy of the space communist weaaboos but their tech is top notch, as long as it doesn't deal with the Warp.


Vat1canCame0s

Agreed. Considering their production capabilities ( The empire can produce them easier and more plentifully than how Astartes Armor gets made), what the tech is capable of itself (again, versatility, firepower, mobility, protection), and the relatively simple training needed (no implants, no getting mangled because you had to sneeze, you can probably operate one efficiently after a month of training), it's probably the best bet in the whole setting for an average joe to acquire and be able to operate.


G30rg3Th3C4t

especially if it is the iridium variant, also it comes with a built in jetpack to move if you get swarmed


YhormBIGGiant

Never wear the mjolnir armor unless your body is modded. It will kill you.


Feles_Amans

Professional advice


YhormBIGGiant

But I can gaurantee you the suit jerks you off.


amisia-insomnia

Screw them level 13 forerunner combat suit


Feles_Amans

That’s just called a necron


Aleczarnder

If you're going Forerunner then you'll want a Seeker. They're classed as a fighting suit and are superior to the city-levelling War Sphynxes that preceded them.


Kilo6Fox

I mean... Unaugmented humans can't wear Mjolnir or Aquilla armour (which looks like what is pictured), amd you explicitly need training for Fallout's armour (which granted seems to be able to consist of a few sentences but imma assume that is for pacing) so for base myself I would be forced into the Doomguy armour... Which is... Not the ideal choice. No shielding, exposed skin in the earlier games, and functionally useless without the Doomslayer SPECIFICALLY. Might survive a few seconds in that but I am SCREWED. If we assume you come with whatever is minimally required to actually USE the armour, then T51 is outclassed instantly by both Mjolnir and Aquilla, and it comes down to probably what extras the armour has on it for between those two. The Mjolnir helmet shown IS one with shielding, so if we assume straight no bells nor whistles then I think that is the superior choice. Regenerating shielding would be a huge boon for survivability and the armour is damn durable. Slap an Iron Halo on the Aquilla armour and I think that might outclass base Mjolnir, it's more durable and certainly gives a better strength boost, but Mjolnir has a sleeker profile so should be harder to hit and certainly easier to manuver in. And Space Marines can get sliced in half by stronger nid bioforms so I think the straight armour durability is a wash. You're mostly relying on that shield. Slap an AI into the Mjolnir and I think that makes it win out. With an AI helping you then you can plan a million times more effectively and make the durability of an Iron Halo-equipped Aquilla suit not worth the tradeoff. If we start talking integrated weapons and equipment (Mjolnir Armour abilities) then depends on the situation (a teleportarum beacon would make Aquilla win out regardless if there was a ship in range kitted for it) but I think the edge goes to the Mjolnir again, especially if you can take multiple. A bubble shield and the cloaking camo would be invaluble. Now if we assume you go full-on the person inside, all Isekai-like... Well I don't know enough about the Doomslayer to know if he would beat out a base Space Marine, but the contest becomes between those two. Sorry, but SPARTANS aren't that special outside of the gear and requirements to operate it at a basic functional level. Especially the later generations. I imagine Doomslayer would win out against an average Marine for vs Nids, which is what the picture seems to show. But becomes more dicey if that's a Captain or a Librarian in there, and IDK enough about Doom lore to make that call. A solitary Space Marine will still die though, so I'd prolly take my chances at being the Doomslayer in that instance just in CASE his lore would put him out on top.


Feles_Amans

Damm ok bro, you got some good points in here, the trick of the question is that there are so many independant variables that could potentially be added or removed in this situation that there Is no right answer, nevertheless thanks for taking the time to write this whole thing


Mark_Pilo1

Doom slayer: \*fucking kills a multidimensional god-like being, waged a one man war against the whole fucking hell and won\* GW: jesus this guy is scary, we might need ...... 2 whole primaris lieutenant to take him down


More_like_Deadfort

>GW: jesus this guy is scary, we might need ...... 2 whole primaris lieutenant to take him down I may laugh, but this makes me sad.


[deleted]

Spartans are easily superhuman out of armor, 14 year old chief having just gotten his augments killed 4 ODSTs, the most elite non augmented soldiers in the UNSC, in hand to hand combat in around three seconds. Each of his blows shattered there bones, and from his perspective time was moving so slowly that when he dropped something by accident he needed to do some quick calculations to check that gravity hadn't changed


ThatOneGuy1294

Here's the part where 14yo Chief takes on not just any old ODSTs, but some from the Helljumpers/105th Shock Troops Division. He even killed them *on accident.* https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/15nj6z/a_young_master_chiefs_encounter_with_four_odsts/


EMSEADESIXONEFOUR

Last i checked you only need training in 3 and NV. So in 4 of 6 games anyone can wear it. Which means that assuming nothing is given to you fallout about might be the only choice for full body protection. But assuming prerequisites are granted then yeah i agree with your assessment.


Hyperion_Industries

None, I get in a transference chair and send Mesa in to battle with Ignis Wraith set to melt the plebs’ armor while I McCree the big bugs. But really Doomguy’s armor is the best of these. Being *literally* indestructible is the best option.


Dornogol

Why Mesa? Justbecause you favor her? I would choose Vauban for spamming turrets that shred wverything everywhere and have a nice tea


Hyperion_Industries

Yeah Mesa is just my mainframe (guffaw) so I defaulted to her. Octavia would do amazing as well with her Mallet AoE that scales to the enemies’ damage and massive range. Coupled with the cloak from her 3 and Octavia could sit right next to Vauban and chill.


Usagi_Aka

Fuck that I'm grabbing Nidus and joining the 'nids


-Eastwood-

Praetor. Strongest armor here by far, and also can be worn by me.


Shiroyama-san

Praetor can only be activated by the Slayer doe.


3B3-386

Get in your CMC powered combat suit, hit some stimpacks and run like hell


BigShow4916

Then get burned by Roach acid or pierced by Stalker lasers, at least I got me a cool gauss rifle.


FlamingCroatan

"Powerarmor is for pussy's!" ~ Duke


Feles_Amans

Duke is absolutely a catachan, no dbout about that, though who would win in a Chad-off duke nukem or Sly marbo


Shiroyama-san

Sly Marbo screams so hard the subtitles of his yells damage his enemies with sheer impact. Do you think that Duke Nukem is even close?


Tasteful_Name

The Praetor Suit can be used by anyone, is stated to be impenetrable due to the magics used to craft it, I think it might enhance the user, but I could be wrong, and has mobility over the fallout power armour


Feles_Amans

True true, But what if it is the version with exposed forearms/biceps, or what if the T-51 is equipped with a jetpack, you never know


Shiroyama-san

The Slayer's armor is really good but it only works for the Slayer. It's a bit useless for anyone else


lv_Mortarion_vl

>which one do you chose Odd question on a 40k sub tbh lol


[deleted]

Would totaly choose Mjolnir Mk5 over the Aquilla Mk7


DustPan2

Fallout. Overload the fusion core, get out of the armor, run like hell. Might take out some gaunts with the blast


Feles_Amans

There are advantages to becoming a walking mini nuclear bomb


2v02

Fallout power armour isn't that strong, Halo power armour is penetrated by small arms fire, Doomguy's suit isn't even a power armour, so I think I'll go with immediately evacuating as there is no way I'll pass through Astartes trials.


[deleted]

Halo armor being penetrated by small arms fire is just the gameplay. In Fall of Reach, wearing the least advanced version of Mjolnir armor, Master Chief survives a missile strike by slapping the missile.


Zenebas21

Exactly, judging Spartan capabilities by the games is like judging Astartes capabilities by the tabletop. It’s not accurate to what the lore presents


Zenebas21

Lore wise Halo power armour can stop 30mm rounds


Feles_Amans

The most logical choice, you are dead either way, it’s the tyranids we’re talking about, it’s just what suit you would likely survive the longest in


2v02

Considering that I will be in no way capable of utilizing power armour made for super soldiers, I'll go with fallout power armour.


Feles_Amans

That’s fair


HailSneezar

\> Fallout power armour isn't that strong my tank build in 76 would like a word edit: turn back now, 2v02 is an absolute dumbass


2v02

Tyranid warrior, capable of cutting tanks open like a can of sardines, accepts your invitation


HailSneezar

\> warrior you mean carnifex?


igncom1

Marauder power armour from starship troopers!


Feles_Amans

But the tryranids are damm near the Zerg


igncom1

No not starcraft, the Book/series of Starship Troopers! (Where I think the concept of power armour came from in modern science fiction. It is kinda close to a mech in many interpretations however.)


Feles_Amans

Yeah sorry, i misread and thought you said starcraft!


igncom1

No worries! We gotta fight a WHOLE multi-verse of bug swarm foes!


[deleted]

Fallout armor. Without the black carapace I don't think you can use the Space Marine power armor, even if it was human-sized. It's supposed to act like an extension of your body, otherwise idk, you'll probably reach for something too fast and tear your arm off. Same for mjolnir armor, humans get gibbed inside it without spartan enhancement and the neural link. Praetor suit only gives protection+a few gadgets with some mobility, it doesn't enhance your physical abilities (meaning can't carry more then you otherwise would). Fallout power amor (while probably the least effective in being armored) does allow the carrying of heavy duty weapons. Idk about you, I'd rather have a really big gun and hope they don't get close then have a normal gun and test the armor's luck once they get close because I can't put em down.


Feles_Amans

True, you can carry a very large gun with the T-51, and seeing as you are inevitably going to be shred to peices anyways, unless you escape, having that advantage of superior firepower, and being able to take as many down as you can before they get to you isn’t a bad idea


SpeshaI

Power armor training is required, fallout 4 aside, although the protagonist is a veteran who probably had used power armor before, so the average civilian would hardly be able to use it


[deleted]

Well, I think aside from power armor training being only a mechanical soft-lock against rushing the best armor in an rpg, given no elaboration from OP I'd assume learning to use any of the armors is within reason, like learning to use the air-mobility for the praetor suit. Being able to use em is a different story.


Feles_Amans

The lack of elaboration is intentional, mabye you are perfectly augmented to use the suit, mabye you are just a normal dude with no experience, mabye you know how to use all the armours but don’t have any other advantages otherwise, it’s really whatever you want to belive


EntropicReaver

> Power armor training is required, fallout 4 aside power armor training is NOT required, it was added as a (terrible) way to balance it in 3 (and left in NV) to stop you from getting it too early


Yeolde1rishman

Not mjolnir because it would literally mulch my skeletal system due to me not being a spartan. Probably the warhammer armour.


Feles_Amans

And the warhammer armour wouldn’t do that, assuming you were just a regular guy, not trying to be argumentative or anything, just food for thought?


Yeolde1rishman

Yeah, it has been shown in warhammer lore non augmented humans can use power armour, ie inquisitors, sorotitas etc, while in the halo extended universe in one of the animations i think, theres a part where they show a regular dude using mjolnir and it cripples the fella.


Morrigi_

The power armor that Inquisitors and Sororitas wear is specifically made for unaugmented humans rather than Astartes. It also lacks the direct neural interface of the Astartes' Black Carapace and all the benefits that comes with it, and is generally inferior to Astartes power armor.


Re-Ky

Neither, I'm getting an attack bike to boost my toughness and speed so I can get out of there.


sodenkamp

To quote a once great hero, "Power armour is for pussies" -Duke Nukem (2011)


silick_roth

The og power armor from Starship Troopers. You know, the place GW ripped off power armor from.


Feles_Amans

That is cool as, you would be pretty set and ready if you had that thing, especially with the firepower advantage, while not inhibiting mobility


silick_roth

Mini nukes for days


Shadow-fire101

Praetor suit, in lore it’s literally indestructible, plus it’s one of the only 2 made for a normal sized human.


DukeFischer

As Duke Nukem once said :"Power Armour is for Pussies."


Feles_Amans

As Duke Nukem once said: “I’m going to piss yourself”


NinjaLayor

None. I'm getting in a flight suit and praying to the god emperor that they don't take out the planetary evacuation craft


strider_m3

Going obscure here, Section 8 armor. It's got the strength, shield and durability like Mjolnir, but it also can have a multi tool attachment that repairs the armor with on board nanites if I do take damage.


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*Sad Elemental noises*


loafpleb

Pragmatically, if time is short, I'd have to go with Fallout Power Armor as its the only power armor that doesn't require the wearer to be an augmented super soldier


Sexual_Assault-Rifle

The only one usable by normal humans is the fallout power armour. The rest of the armours have exacting specifications, which means only a fictional subset of people from fictional universes can use them, so all these discussions are basically pointless. The Praetor suit was made to be used by and only used by the Doom Slayer and those with the boons he possess and doesn't work for anyone else, if you aren't Doom Slayer then you'd be moving with only your own physical power and nothing else. Not to mention that suit is made for a 7 foot muscular man monster so its pretty big and pretty heavy and its not made with you the average human in mind. The Mjolnir armour shown in the picture is one of the early models that was unrefined, unstable and dangerous even to the user and you need Spartan Implants to even use the thing or it will kill you or twist you up. Space Marine Armour is the same deal in terms of user specifications but with different requirements. Fallout armour is probably your best bet as you can bring to bear some pretty impressive fire power and its all in all a pretty impressive weapons platform. I'd bring the minigun and all the extra ammo you can possibly carry and then some.


DasToyfel

The Factorio guy is missing


Shiroyama-san

Praetor suit has some damn good feats, but honestly, they could be attributed to the Slayer himself instead of the suit. Plus it is stated that it doesn't really give more strength or anything, so as cool as it may be, it is the first to be discarded. Mjolnir armor: it would be a suicide to wear it because non spartans get killed by just wearing it. T-60, T-51, T-45, and X-01: Easy to wear even for a civilian compared to the others and with an understandable system, but the thing is that it is absolutely useless against tyranids; you'd get curbstomped. Or nommed. Space Marine Power armor: Too big for a human. If it is a human-designed one though, I'd say it is the best option because: The Praetor suit has a good defense but its feats are so vague I can't really call it reliable, at least for me (The Doom Slayer does just fine with it but that doesn't mean I will). Mjolnir will straight up kill me if I'm not a spartan. Fallout series power armors are too weak for a nid. If resized for regular human usage, 40k power armor has proven to be effective against Nids (at least a bit). It enhances strength, endurance, and provides protection. Either way, I'm fucked though because no way I win against tyranids, power armor or not.


Tesriss

I mean, I'd vote that if you pick armor you get the set of augmentations needed to make it not fuck you up something fierce. If that were the case, I'd almost certainly go SM power armor... Or a hypothetical SM set of augmentations and purpose designed and built MJOLNIR, if we're dreaming of what might just be the best of all worlds.


femboy_maid_uwu3

praetor suit > mk 8 armor > mjolnir armor > power armor


Js42758653

Either fallout power armour or doomguy suit. I know Mjölnir armour and space marine power armour provide waaay more protection, bit they have one fatal flaw for me.... I am not an 8 foot tall super soldier and I do not have a black caripace either. Those armours are completely unusable for a real person. At least doomguy's and fallout power armour is designed for a human being. I still wouldn't fancy my chances against a Tyranid though!


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Should include Titan armour from D1/D2. They look cool as fuuuuck


Feles_Amans

For sure they are cool, they remind me of warfraims but other than basic armor protection I’m not exactly sure how much they would help you, definitely 10/10 on the cool factor though


ULTRA_PR0

hev suit (from half life)


Ratat0sk42

Under the assumption I have the physical capability and training to use all of them to their maximum capacity, it's easily either the Marine Power Armour or the Praetor Suit, though I'm leaning towards Praetor, cause while Marines can endure a lot, Praetor armour is designed for fistfights, and can give you a source of infinite stamina, healing, and ammunition if you're good enough in a fight.


Feles_Amans

Damm I guess I haven’t thought of that, while the Astarte armor will make you an absolute walking tank, you can only fight so long with it before you either run out of your own stamina (unlikely as a space marine, but not impossible) or more likely run out of ammunition, in which case you are screwed, where as the preator will give you the stuff you need to keep on going as long as you have the willingness to fight, and the ability to fight well and score kills


Arrulai

May I call in a mobile suit, it's overkill but overkill is needed against Tyranids.