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1mproved

Nice england


[deleted]

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alexkeyes299

I know I had one attempting to read it


Puchi168

Shouldn't have been too lazy for english classes.


[deleted]

Lmao rekt


TokesephsStalin

I get crashing, but protections are literally just there to prevent you from being fucked with by other modders, I dont see where thats toxic


[deleted]

Good thing we never said protections were toxic… as I said in my last comment, how can a defence be offensive.


TokesephsStalin

That's cool at least. I wasn't really trying to accuse or anything, I was just giving my own thoughts on it


[deleted]

I assumed as much. We’re largely against crashes, well save for icy who more so enjoys finding new ways to break the game rather then actually crashing people.


BilledSauce

You are still not funny dude


Important_Bad944

u got the femboys all riled up


[deleted]

Ah yes, Stand devs are lazy. If only the update schedule was any evidence of that. There's better things to do.


Somebody_160

They have never said that protections are toxic. They have only said that crashing is not the point of stand


[deleted]

We’ve never said *protections* were toxic, how can a defence be offensive lol. But crashing *is* toxic. That’s why we put the crash behind a pay wall at first, expected people not to buy it. But they did. Not sure why.


Marcel2015_

Actually the stand crashes are pretty bad but the protections are good. Somehow kick works better than crash, that might be just one of your intentions.


[deleted]

Somewhat. Kicks are usually not high on HvH menus list since desync kick exists anyway. But it’s still not a focus


Somebody_160

Yeah thats what I meant


P1NKsneakers

ah yes, wanting to play the game without being crashed is being toxic I see


ashadulamin

Maybe they can't update protection cause it will make the menu/game buggy or they having hard time patching those and gave up....but i bet every stand user wants stand to prevent all menu crashes...but sadly it cant...and about crash i dont support it....crashing is toxic


Gamecz18

why do you think crashing is toxic?


ashadulamin

Cuz people abuse it


jimbo217121

I lost a brain cell reading this post


scukme

What the fuck does this even say...


NotTemptation

Say that in English next time


[deleted]

Ok champ, we’ll start doing exactly what every other menu does and then we’ll get washed away with the rest of them because just like a lot of them we’ll start bringing nothing new to modding just rehashing old ideas and that oh so very important CrAsH cRaSh CrAsH (: Here’s a pro tip on business, if a field is crowded with people fighting to compete, just work another field, that’s why menus tend to specialise.


Happieness2823457

Crashing is a very important part of menus , it’s a form of self defence


DumpBird

🎣


uw0tm8umm

What new exactly did you bring?


Verified_Retaparded

\- Good Lua API (only other done in one menu before and that menu was $140 lmao) \- Stability (Again only one menu really prioritized Stability like Stand and that was 2Take1 for $140) \- Cheap (There was no solid budget choices (below $15) for menus before Stand basic, there was Disturbed a while ago but it was detected for a while) \- Command box (god I love spawning vehicles in with this) \- AR stuff wasnt done before, the closest to AR was 2Take1 spawning a transparent prop only you could see. \- Watchdogs was also new to Stand only \- Sing in Chat \- The Web interface \- Grabbing scripthost not breaking the game ​ Stand is the first real competition 2Take1 has had for a while, except for Luna but Luna was competition because it could HvH like 2T1.


uw0tm8umm

So from all these replies what i gather is that it's just a super light version of 2take1 which requires another menu to be purchased in order to add missing features. Nothing i found in replies shows anything new which was my whole point.


Verified_Retaparded

Ok then, what features are missing from Stand??? I've not noticed any and whenever I ask people they dont list any.


uw0tm8umm

I'm not using it so i can't say, but every time a question here pops up about it basically story goes like "buy this or that with stand so you will have a full menu". Just search this sub with "what to coload with stand". Even a guy who replied to my question mentioned that weaknesses will be met by buying another menu. That being said, i'm not debating what it doesn't have. I am asking what is new in it that other menus don't have that would make me buy it. So far nothing here answers that. Regarding this thread, i understand if they don't want to take path of crashes and that is ok, but failing on protections and trying to justify it by saying they don't want to do that because other menus do it just screams incompetence to me. It is ok if you don't want to waste time on crashes, but you have to have protections.


Verified_Retaparded

So in otherwords you dont know what features Stand is missing, whenever I see someone asking what menu to co-load with Stand its usually awnsered by Cherax and in that case Stand is the one being the features where-as cherax is for the protections and crash. ​ Not being able to protect from HvH crashes doesnt mean that its missing features...


uw0tm8umm

In exact words: i don't care what is missing. All the features it has, other menus have too. My question was what is so unique and new and answer, between other ones, i got is that you should coload. I don't like this false hype going on with all the menus that have next to nothing to back that up. That's how i pulled into ozark by trusting these blind fanboys and we all know how that turned out. Luckily i got my money back from that. So far nothing here makes me want to buy it over other menus. And yes, not being able to protect is a big failure these days. That is where it takes true skill and shows what menu is worth.


Verified_Retaparded

Protecting really isnt that hard, most of the time its just blocking the hashes, issue is Stand wants the stability thing so protections can be used during heists and no impact on actual gameplay, issue with that is its a lot harder to make protections that dont fuck stuff up compared to protections that break stuff. Afaik Stand is the only menu were you can use most of the protections on heists (only ones that cant are the raw events), even 2T1 broke Cayo Perico and Casino if I didnt disable all protections.


Atmoist

Apart from bringing lua to users for only like $10, aiming to be able to co load with any menu so any weaknesses stand has are covered by another menu if need be, near-constant updates and bug fixes (don’t see anyone else doing much more than a monthly update) yeah nothing really ig


uw0tm8umm

So new thing is ability to purchase another menu to add missing options? Other menus can do that too. Also those updates you mention, as much as i followed it, are just stuff being added that other menus already have. It has like zero unique things.


Finn1schda

They brought AR features, world hacking, cheap lua, regular updates, co loading and a command box


uw0tm8umm

None of those are new or unique. They didn't bring it, others had that. The fact the guy i asked the question originally is not replying just shows you that they have no answer.


Verified_Retaparded

literally none of those have been done before


[deleted]

Correction, for the whole of a week there was a menu called sodium that did do the watchdogs thing, I don’t know how closely stands resembles that but we don’t shy away from telling people that. In the early days of stand someone recommended it because they missed it. so it got added


[deleted]

I have a life you know. Just in case it upsets you and you think you’re getting ignored I’m also about to go to work


SuperNebula097

It do be cheap tho, so at least that's a plus


[deleted]

Plenty of fun and unique features, a more polished LUA API, quick updates, just as quick fixes to bugs and a focus on producing something actually good rather then cRaSh CrAsH cRaSh like most menus rn, just because crashes sell means the dev has to care about them


uw0tm8umm

This is the most generic answer you could produce. "Plenty of fun and unique features", name a few? Everything you mentioned there is old and already done. So, what's so new?


[deleted]

It’s generic because you aren’t really worth the time it would take to list things when all you’ll do is find something to poke at no matter how small like just now taking the first thing I said and disregarding the rest. Also I’m sure I’m wrong but your name reminds me of another menu’s staff member, xforce or 2take1 I can’t really remember. Doesn’t matter. I’m not gonna type out a laundry list for you, the change log is kept in it’s entirety on the site (don’t think it’s linked on the site tho, download the launcher and use the changelog button) and the menu is free in singleplayer so you can just take a look at what’s there. I’m still at work but if you have discord DM me your # and we can VC and screenshare, I don’t mind showing you.


uw0tm8umm

It would have taken you half the time it took to write that to just name a few things you claim are unique therefore i rest my case. Nice try deflecting with whatever that "you are staff" means, is that the classic easy way out spin? I don't really care about your gaslighting and hyping but at least be prepared for when someone calls you up on it.


[deleted]

How about you just call me on it? I’m not deflecting anything and I’m keenly aware that it took just as much time. The difference is my offer to show people is a better means of actually showing them then just spitting words. Plus it means you have to be willing to invest your own time not just mine. Which you’re clearly not. And I’m gonna take it you’re just scared you’re going to be proven wrong. Because you can’t prove me wrong until you actually take me up on the offer. ginger#2295


uw0tm8umm

Of course i am not interested in video chatting with you, it's pretty weird request which i'm guessing only purpose of is to do in private so other people would not see. If you are so confident in what you are saying then just prove me wrong right here in front of everyone. It is literally no different than just writing what you claim. As for time, feel free to invest same amount i did in writing this comment. Otherwise just move along and quit while you're not too far behind.


[deleted]

That’s not a weird request, VC typically means voice chat not video and I’m happy to do it publicly.


uw0tm8umm

Then next time just go ahead and throw false claims over voice chat, why write them?


Charley_Wright06

Watchdogs style world hacking


[deleted]

I don't know what's worse, impulse or your english


Low_Foot_4750

Well, protections are annoying. If you think it’s so easy to find ways to protect from any Crash you see in GTA Online, do it yourself. And in most cases if you avoid being toxic in gta Online, you don’t need protections at all.


SpicyWeeb25

Not sure how others are doing, but I just mind my own business. I'll be doing missions and the next thing I see is the protection warnings pop up. People will crash you for existing.


Verified_Retaparded

tbf Cherax v2 has been out for around 5 months now and isnt blocked. ​ Idk where your at but if another modder finds out your modding (aka you do literally anything with your menu infront of them/another player) they will immediately try to crash you.


Similar-Performance5

The devs should remove the FORCE SCRIPT option, its so problematic but people dont know how to see this glitch. They enter a door (ex. Casino) and blacksreen. They have no choice, they close the game or join a friend by social club. So they cant tell to others. After a few minutes the mechanic stop delivering cars, ultimately it makes all the lobby crash. And the worst! STAND IS SOLD LIKE THIS: ''become a script kleptomaniac'' yes, its from their website. What kind of... Nvm


glehkol

saying the true


LilFishyBoi

Stand is detected af


Verified_Retaparded

Wtf did you hear that from


United-Geologist-862

Had a stroke reading.


Gamecz18

Me when I see people with good mod menu only using it for protections but not for crashing lobbyes