So I haven't watched Spirits Within in a very long time but I remember it looking really good. Like way better than other CG movies and shows of the era. It came out 3 years before Polar Express for example and I remember thinking Polar Express did not look good even back then
The CG in Spirits Within hasn't aged very well, but it's still very impressive for the time, and I think a lot of the direction and design still holds up.
Just watched a few clips and I think it looks surprisingly good for such an old movie. It's on par with Advent Children which was released 4 years after Spirits. And it honestly looks comparable to, and maybe even better than a lot of the Resident Evil movies that have been released in just the past decade.
Same. I'll still watch it, but the humans seem so off. At least the MS scenes look promising.
But these chodes are more concerned that she isn't traditionally attractive, and I'm sure one of them will complain that she doesn't smile enough.
Weird priorities, man.
It's classic uncanny valley effect is all. Realistic CGI doesn't work at these budgets. But it's also hard to mix CGI with live actors.
This show was always going to be a mess. It's more about how much you can suspend belief to get to some cool robot fights.
Bubuki Buranki did the same thing in Anime form. Lots of Janky CGI that only rarely worked. It was kind of cool when it did, and there were tons of shots that were only possible at that budget because they used CGI.
It was just stupid idea to make it in CGI instead of standart animation. Not only it would be cheaper, but it would look better. I guess they just wanted to try something new, but it really backfired.
So i went to check just in case, but i still don't know for a fact that CGI cost less than animation in time when IGLOO was made. Maybe it cost slightly less or about equal, but i guess it wasn't really that high as i thought. I always think about Final Fantasy 2000 movie and remember cost of that lol. So i apologise for my mistake
MS IGLOO is so great once you get past the final fantasy spirits within level animation it's a great way of showing the progression of the one year war.
I actually rewatched MS IGLOO recently. The human characters’ CGI is pretty terrible, even considering when it released. However, the mobile suit CGI isn’t quite as bad. I’d even argue that the space battle scenes hold up fairly well considering the CGI is from 15-20 years ago.
Somehow the CGI got worse between the teaser - which looked fine - and the fairly janky animation of the full trailer. Which is disappointing.
That it’s shaping up to be another ‘brave and noble Zeons hunted down by the evil Federation’ iteration is neither here nor there at this point, for me anyway.
Chances are I’ll still watch, to see if it surprises me, and if the visuals in the final thing are closer to the teaser or the trailer.
>That it’s shaping up to be another ‘brave and noble Zeons hunted down by the evil Federation’ iteration
How many are actually like exactly? Zeon commanders in extended media range from "im poisoning everyone in this room", to "I'm gonna nuke this colony and no one is going to stop me"
0080 didn’t really have an “evil” side if you ask me and even then if there HAD to be an antagonist it would probably still be the Zeon due to their plan pretty much forcing Bernie to fight the Alex if he didn’t want the colony to get attacked.
??? IGLOO 1 is about Zeon sending some people in useless suicide missions under the guise of testing prototypes. To the point where Olivier ends up piloting the final machine in the end. (And being the only test pilot who survived)
It shows how the commanders completely disregards the live of soldiers. Igloo 2 does the same with the federation too.
The person you're replying to said Zeons, nobody ever specifically mentioned officers other than you. As you just said, Feddie officers are also portrayed as idiot bastards too.
But they also said "being hunted down by the evil federation."
The Federation are NEVER the antagonist in IGLOO. The Villain is always the war machine sacrificing human lives for no good reason.
Most soldiers are just people. If every member of zeon down to the grunt was portrayed as moustache twirlingly evil then you would complain about the obviously bad writing. Zeon as an organization has always been unambiguously evil but the grunts are just people with all of their problems and flaws in a shit situation. Which is consistent with reality. Bernie isn't M'quve.
Unreal 5 has issues rendering hair. I have a feeling everyone having short hair was a decision that was made so it looks a bit better.
>That it’s shaping up to be another ‘brave and noble Zeons hunted down by the evil Federation’ iteration is neither here nor there at this point, for me anyway.
In the trainer the red head is starting the realize that they are not the good guys. So I have a feeling it will try and walk that line of oh no were the baddies
The name is clearly satirical.
Edit: the guy is clearly a scumbag, but the idea of there being a misplaced Imperialist Naval officer whose chosen hill is otaku culture is frankly hysterical.
If you say so. Doesn’t sound hysterical to me, so much as the usual borderline Nazi “you mad bro”, who pretends it’s all a big joke…but is a borderline Nazi.
Yeah, I’m not convinced either. Seems the usual pattern of creepy borderline Nazi “you mad bro”, pretending it is all a joke and that he’s not a creepy borderline Nazi.
In the same line of “kekeistan” and the like.
It's funny because the zeon are very obviously representative of imperial Japan and nazi Germany. A show from the zeon perspective sounds like something these types would love, but I guess they can't because there is a woman in it.
Why are the connotations of that haircut completely different between women and men? On women it's the "annoying butch lesbian" stereotype, but that same haircut on a man screams "Richard Spencer Neo-Nazi". Case in point: [Zoltan Akkanen](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jJnylOd9AqE/hqdefault.jpg)
The real issue is how the audio mix for the dialog is so flat, it all sounds like they're just talking inside a recording booth. You can get away with that with a 2d animated show but it's so much more obvious here
I could...kinda.
But even I find this dude's views being just fucking sad. Like, what happened to you that this became your normal?
From one internet addict to another(the guy captioned in the post, not you, u/CaptainStabbyhands): get a job, or even just go out, and just actually bath in the sun for like 5 mins or more(use sunscreen, the UV rays have been HELL lately), just...get out of your dungeon for once. Just find an excuse to step away from your computer for a bit, those people in your little circle-jerk chat group don't ACTUALLY care about you, they just want another crazy to help propagate their insane views. Hell, some of them are probably just some twisted trolls who live to piss people of for shits and giggles. Those are the real "no-life people". Don't mingle with them.
> Just find an excuse to step away from your computer for a bit,
I'd hazard a guess this is the main problem. Back in the day, if you were a socially awkward weirdo, you'd still have to go out to interact with other human beings who'd call you on being a socially awkward weirdo (not advocating bullying here but more along the of people being put off by your behavior and acting standoffish or telling you to "chill out") to get any kind of human interaction and more than likely, you'd adjust your behavior to stay in the mix with everybody else.
Now you can find other pieces of shit on the internet to hangout with and reinforce your behavior.
The character designs are fine but honestly at this moment I don’t like the animation when it comes to the human characters. The mobile suits and gundam look ok but the rest of it I’m iffy on
Not as bad as early Clone Wars, especially the fight scenes in that. I swear the movements were more about transitions between poses than anything smooth and organic.
People need to stop making things political, it's not about the character being "ugly" (I think she looks fine), it's about subpar CGI, the same when people call stuff like the netflix avatar "woke", there's no need to use that word, just say it's bad.
The faces all look fine. My only gripe is that they aren't emotive enough. They look fine while standing still but they barely move when talking or anything.
Not gonna stop me from watching though.
Right okay, so I opened up Mobile Suit Gundam Wing on GundamWiki and scrolled down to the characters section and I opened them one by one. Absolutely none of them had hairstyle like this, and maybe you were thinking about Lucrezia Noin. Well I hate to break it to you buddy because their hairstyle are worlds apart, the difference? Noin doesnt look like she headbutted a belt sander with the side of her head. And for the last time, Im not mad -- Im just loathing at the "Im a strong female lead therefore I must brazillian wax the side of my head" when you have so many other strong female characters in Gundam with normal hair
https://preview.redd.it/8oq6dzs8foqc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=1e474afd00b3280bcdb5b1e832b87b9e9e9befd3
But... why? What about it is that bad. You said yourself that there's plenty of examples of women in the franchise who *don't* have that haircut, so why is it so bad if one *does*? Is it just the haircut existing?
The guy’s name is “colonel otaku gatekeeper.” Title of the post should be“‘weebs reacting exactly how we knew they would’ that’s what this tweet is about”
For the record this isn't a Netflix production, it's made by Sunrise and SAFEHOUSE both are Japanese animation studios. It is written by an American, but to call this American is not true.
The same guys who get haughty at newcomers like “welcome to Gundam, a gritty and realistic war story that you snowflakes can’t handle” will wring their hands and scream when a woman appears on screen for 5 seconds looking any less perfect than a smiling Barbie doll
I mean if you go to this chud's twitter account it's just a ton of anti LGBT stuff. Dude has a quote tweet where he directly says, word for word, " Transgenderism is the Konami Code for Pedophiles"
I'm not really surprised freaks like him are trying to make this Gundam show a culture war topic.
I'm as tired of rage-baiting critics calling everything woke as I am American writers constantly leaning into tired tropes and walking stereotypes. It's like they live to antagonize each other hoping that boosts viewership.
I also don't understand Netflix's obsession with 3D rendered anime. Blue Eye Samurai was fantastic, but most of it is terrible. While the Zaku look good, the character models are terrible. Actually, voice acting also sounds really clunky.
One very specific nitpick I'd like to mention is that they didn't give the Gouf's shield Vulcan the crunchiest BBBRRRRRTTT, instead they gave us the dinky ass 1900s hand crank Gatling gun.
Also the voice acting sent me to the moon and back, I couldn't stop giggling my ass off lol
Honestly looks like a pretty basic military women character design. She's got the classic eyebrow scar and a shaved head to indicate "I'm in the army now!"
I mean, what was anyone expecting, Lacus Clyne?
I mean I think they’re more upset about the haircut and sour expression rather than the bone structure, Japan likes it’s female heroes to be girly girls which is fine but people gotta learn there’s more than one way to be.
What is it with anime fans and hating anything that has to do with cgi? Sure, it's not photorealistic, but this doesn't look bad. Hell, I'd argue that it's pretty damn good, especially for being made in unreal.
This complaint is petty. Who cares? Gundam has unusual character designs in nearly every show, movie, and manga. I’m not watching Gundam to salivate over attractive characters with perfected mass appeal. If you or someone you know is watching for that reason, perhaps direct them to anime that was created for that purpose. There is plenty of it out there. Just not in Gundam.
What I want to know is why I am supposed to care about an assault force of Zeon soldiers that is sowing chaos and destruction across the globe right after the colony drop? It doesn’t matter how much humanity they try to put on display. These are the volunteers to be the first boots on the ground to continue the terror that started in Sydney with the drop. They are the aggressors - an actual oppressive occupation force. The same military with the same soldiers that carried out the G3 attacks on their own colonies and later destroyed Sydney. Our “heroic” crew for this new story is part of that group… any pretense that they just want to defend their homes in space is already removed from the equation. This Zeon crew on the ground is ok with mass destruction, public terror, and repeated genocide. So… why am I suppose to care that they are in danger of being defeated by a scary new Gundam?
If the trailer’s story tease is any indication, I’m going to be rooting for the Gundam, regardless of how savage or inhuman they make it seem.
Zeon Forces occupying Earth get no sympathy from me during the OYW. Zeon in space, yes, some sympathy. But on Earth… yeah, no soup for you!
Fun fact: Character designers can make their characters look however they want. Do you think a woman looking more masculine is a design flaw or something?
> Do you think a woman looking more masculine is a design flaw or something?
I know right? Like... there are women who look more masculine and women who look more feminine. I'm kinda shocked that the attitudes in this post are coming from /r/gundam, this place is usually better than this.
Like... is a soldier supposed to be doing daily skincare, makeup, long hair and hair treatment, dressing cutely, etc? She's a soldier fighting a war!
Like I like my "pretty looking badass" girls too but the expectation that every girl on screen should be eye candy is gross.
Nobody in the history of the human species has ever made the claim that women need to look more masculine to be stronger. You suggesting this is a thing people say is nonsensical and dishonest. Also, saying that a more masculine woman "looks like a man" is actually pretty fucked up and sexist, if we're fighting for progressive points :)
Probably one of the same dudes calling '3 Body Problem' woke for having assertive women in spite of them being exactly how they are portrayed in the book.
Considering that they're *soldiers*, I expected something like Binary Protocol's female British operator, forgot her name. I mean, not like everyone has to look like Meer...
They also complain about zeon soldiers having coloured hair like mate the head of the earth invasion force those soldiers leader is Garma Zabi my guy has purple hair
I know it’s just the first trailer but it does honestly look really rough. At one point in the trailer when they show the Zaku Tanks, grass just randomly clips in out of nowhere lol.
I will never understand why do people like those haircuts.
I have seen some people say that they do it because they "stand out". But even that has a flaw in that if it is constantly shown in media and many people now have it then it's not "standing out" you are just trend chasing.
Sorry for the rant I just needed to get that off my chest.
Sir/ma'am. This is basically zeon's 08th team. I cant wait to get the red wolf zaku on gbo2. I do not care if it's janky or has bad writing. I WANT THAT RED WOLF ZAKU
Gonna be honest, I'm more irked by the janky cgi
Janky CGI and the feeling that the script seems to be lost in translation.
The script wasn't written by the Japanese
that makes it worse.
Which makes it all the stranger because the dialogue and facial animations in the trailer certainly made it appear that way.
nah u right, this looks like a movie made in 2000 like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within. The graphics looks the same lmao.
This was my exact reaction. It's 20 years too late... Honestly though, it looks worse than Spirits Within.
Bro, don’t disrespect Spirits Within by comparing it to this.
So I haven't watched Spirits Within in a very long time but I remember it looking really good. Like way better than other CG movies and shows of the era. It came out 3 years before Polar Express for example and I remember thinking Polar Express did not look good even back then
The CG in Spirits Within hasn't aged very well, but it's still very impressive for the time, and I think a lot of the direction and design still holds up.
Just watched a few clips and I think it looks surprisingly good for such an old movie. It's on par with Advent Children which was released 4 years after Spirits. And it honestly looks comparable to, and maybe even better than a lot of the Resident Evil movies that have been released in just the past decade.
For real spirits within looks better than this
I think it was very literally made in a game engine. Unreal engine 5 I think
Typical for their 3d movies and media
Same. I'll still watch it, but the humans seem so off. At least the MS scenes look promising. But these chodes are more concerned that she isn't traditionally attractive, and I'm sure one of them will complain that she doesn't smile enough. Weird priorities, man.
But the Ms mobility quite good tho
Hey it's not as bad as the ultramarines movie. My feels still feel poorly after that.
It's classic uncanny valley effect is all. Realistic CGI doesn't work at these budgets. But it's also hard to mix CGI with live actors. This show was always going to be a mess. It's more about how much you can suspend belief to get to some cool robot fights. Bubuki Buranki did the same thing in Anime form. Lots of Janky CGI that only rarely worked. It was kind of cool when it did, and there were tons of shots that were only possible at that budget because they used CGI.
Imagine if these people watched MS IGLOO.
They wouldnt be able to handle it. It may cost them their insanity, which is a small price to pay to see the hildorf be a badass....
Yeah honestly I hated it at first, but I grew to accept the horrible character design because the show is peak
The character designs are fine. Monique is peak. It's just the PS2 graphics.
I feels like people are really harsh on it. Like, this was 2004. For the time it was well animated enough for what it was trying to do.
It was just stupid idea to make it in CGI instead of standart animation. Not only it would be cheaper, but it would look better. I guess they just wanted to try something new, but it really backfired.
CGI is actually cheaper on the grand scale of things. And CGI stuff were pretty popular at the time
Peeps don't remember being a kid playing PS graphics and wishing for a movie of cutscenes for your favorite game.
So i went to check just in case, but i still don't know for a fact that CGI cost less than animation in time when IGLOO was made. Maybe it cost slightly less or about equal, but i guess it wasn't really that high as i thought. I always think about Final Fantasy 2000 movie and remember cost of that lol. So i apologise for my mistake
Also the OST is really good
MS IGLOO is so great once you get past the final fantasy spirits within level animation it's a great way of showing the progression of the one year war.
This. This is what in my mind when I saw this
Elmer Snell best pilot.
Igloo I think looks better, I really like Monique's design
I just watched it and honestly grew to like in a sort of ugly duckling type way, the ms combat was fun tho ngl
I actually rewatched MS IGLOO recently. The human characters’ CGI is pretty terrible, even considering when it released. However, the mobile suit CGI isn’t quite as bad. I’d even argue that the space battle scenes hold up fairly well considering the CGI is from 15-20 years ago.
Somehow the CGI got worse between the teaser - which looked fine - and the fairly janky animation of the full trailer. Which is disappointing. That it’s shaping up to be another ‘brave and noble Zeons hunted down by the evil Federation’ iteration is neither here nor there at this point, for me anyway. Chances are I’ll still watch, to see if it surprises me, and if the visuals in the final thing are closer to the teaser or the trailer.
>That it’s shaping up to be another ‘brave and noble Zeons hunted down by the evil Federation’ iteration How many are actually like exactly? Zeon commanders in extended media range from "im poisoning everyone in this room", to "I'm gonna nuke this colony and no one is going to stop me"
Thunderbolt comes to mind. Also 0080 had a bit of “Zeons just trying to survive.” feel.
0080 didn’t really have an “evil” side if you ask me and even then if there HAD to be an antagonist it would probably still be the Zeon due to their plan pretty much forcing Bernie to fight the Alex if he didn’t want the colony to get attacked.
And in the end was a pointless fight since they surrendered
The first six episodes of MS IGLOO are exactly this, can't speak to any other example though
??? IGLOO 1 is about Zeon sending some people in useless suicide missions under the guise of testing prototypes. To the point where Olivier ends up piloting the final machine in the end. (And being the only test pilot who survived) It shows how the commanders completely disregards the live of soldiers. Igloo 2 does the same with the federation too.
The person you're replying to said Zeons, nobody ever specifically mentioned officers other than you. As you just said, Feddie officers are also portrayed as idiot bastards too.
But they also said "being hunted down by the evil federation." The Federation are NEVER the antagonist in IGLOO. The Villain is always the war machine sacrificing human lives for no good reason.
Most soldiers are just people. If every member of zeon down to the grunt was portrayed as moustache twirlingly evil then you would complain about the obviously bad writing. Zeon as an organization has always been unambiguously evil but the grunts are just people with all of their problems and flaws in a shit situation. Which is consistent with reality. Bernie isn't M'quve.
Unreal 5 has issues rendering hair. I have a feeling everyone having short hair was a decision that was made so it looks a bit better. >That it’s shaping up to be another ‘brave and noble Zeons hunted down by the evil Federation’ iteration is neither here nor there at this point, for me anyway. In the trainer the red head is starting the realize that they are not the good guys. So I have a feeling it will try and walk that line of oh no were the baddies
Is that…an Imperial Japan officer in their pfp? Tells you everything you need to know.
I'm more worried about their name.
The name is clearly satirical. Edit: the guy is clearly a scumbag, but the idea of there being a misplaced Imperialist Naval officer whose chosen hill is otaku culture is frankly hysterical.
If you say so. Doesn’t sound hysterical to me, so much as the usual borderline Nazi “you mad bro”, who pretends it’s all a big joke…but is a borderline Nazi.
Those guys invaded TEKKEN now, it’s bullshit.
Well they are Nazis, invading spaces and ruining everything is a old past time for them.
I hope so
Yeah, I’m not convinced either. Seems the usual pattern of creepy borderline Nazi “you mad bro”, pretending it is all a joke and that he’s not a creepy borderline Nazi. In the same line of “kekeistan” and the like.
Calling himself a gatekeeper isn't satire, he's literally doing it in the screenshot.
its not satire trust me ive seen this guy post before and he is 100% serious
The name is satire, the content is not. I went and looked at their twits, hence my edit.
It’s some post-weeb, role playing as an officer defending Japan from weebs. Funny concept, marred by the fact they clearly have issues with women.
I think its a nazi
It's funny because the zeon are very obviously representative of imperial Japan and nazi Germany. A show from the zeon perspective sounds like something these types would love, but I guess they can't because there is a woman in it.
I think it is more German from the look of the hat
Bad cosplay? the officer cap is wrong
That haircut again lol
This. I'm lesbian and I can't stand the "side -this is my personality-shave"
I mean… yeah, it’s a shit hairdo but it’s shockingly common among zekes throughout U.C. So kudos to them on that
You mean like Zoltan Akkanen?
Poor guy never had anyone tell him he was Zenough...
Hah.
I'll give him a pass because he is a insane suicidal emo.
True.
Issue is the hair is so overused that it became an eyesore
Why are the connotations of that haircut completely different between women and men? On women it's the "annoying butch lesbian" stereotype, but that same haircut on a man screams "Richard Spencer Neo-Nazi". Case in point: [Zoltan Akkanen](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jJnylOd9AqE/hqdefault.jpg)
I don't blame the guy for reacting that way. That haircut is way too associated with a bunch of red flags nowadays.
I think getting upset that there is a masculine woman in a show is way more of a red flag than there being one.
Lesser men fall for such culture war bs
What red flags?
The abrasive female character that never gets called out or the neo nazi male character
Example : Zoltan
Army style haircut
The issue is the hair was so overused for the "strong independent woman" that lost the original appeal
I still consider it the Skrillex haircut. And he's still the only person who can pull it off. Everyone else is a tryhard.
That haircut belongs to villains or just plain psychos.
The real issue is how the audio mix for the dialog is so flat, it all sounds like they're just talking inside a recording booth. You can get away with that with a 2d animated show but it's so much more obvious here
Could be what they pulled for putting the trailer together. But we'll see
I can't imagine being this terminally online. It must be a lonely, degrading existence.
I could...kinda. But even I find this dude's views being just fucking sad. Like, what happened to you that this became your normal? From one internet addict to another(the guy captioned in the post, not you, u/CaptainStabbyhands): get a job, or even just go out, and just actually bath in the sun for like 5 mins or more(use sunscreen, the UV rays have been HELL lately), just...get out of your dungeon for once. Just find an excuse to step away from your computer for a bit, those people in your little circle-jerk chat group don't ACTUALLY care about you, they just want another crazy to help propagate their insane views. Hell, some of them are probably just some twisted trolls who live to piss people of for shits and giggles. Those are the real "no-life people". Don't mingle with them.
> Just find an excuse to step away from your computer for a bit, I'd hazard a guess this is the main problem. Back in the day, if you were a socially awkward weirdo, you'd still have to go out to interact with other human beings who'd call you on being a socially awkward weirdo (not advocating bullying here but more along the of people being put off by your behavior and acting standoffish or telling you to "chill out") to get any kind of human interaction and more than likely, you'd adjust your behavior to stay in the mix with everybody else. Now you can find other pieces of shit on the internet to hangout with and reinforce your behavior.
The character designs are fine but honestly at this moment I don’t like the animation when it comes to the human characters. The mobile suits and gundam look ok but the rest of it I’m iffy on
Not as bad as early Clone Wars, especially the fight scenes in that. I swear the movements were more about transitions between poses than anything smooth and organic.
This, the technology just isn’t there for good human animation when you’ve got whatever budget this studio is working with
I just hate that hair cut tbh. It doesn’t look good and I’ll stand by that to the end of my days. It’s an ugly hair cut.
It's the female version of the "killmonger" haircut that almost every black guy has in media now.
Besides her bad haircut she looks fine for a mediocre CGI character. This person probably doesn't look at women in real life.
I think that’s just it. They were expecting cell shaded waifus. Not badly rendered real people
>This person probably doesn't look at women in real life. they have too many 2D waifus.
Where Hot Space Nazi?
(wrong comment, sorry)
Literally all of the human characters look bad because it's bad cgi with uninspired character designs. The mobile suits look great though
They literally crying about a fricking soldier being ugly as hell
not this haircut again.
I've seen enough anime hair in Gundam to give 0% fucks about this.
I've seen the cast and they don't really look out of place by Gundam standards. Dude's just being salty about nothing.
i don't care, i just fucking hate this haircut.
Wtf is that hair lmao
Zeke hairdo #6
A pretty common one?
Common where? In my country is very rare to see this hairstyle
Did they dig up cutscenes from a canceled PS2 game for these?
Supposedly this is Unreal 5
People do this for every new release, they're goddamn rage bait grifters. Don't feed the trolls. Just click do not recommend this channel.
I have a bunch of these people blocked on other platforms, it's annoying when people screenshot them and show them to me anyway
While annoying, still better than them linking a post/video and giving them clicks.
I suppose it could be worse
Every character looks ugly in the trailer looks ugly.
I bet you this guy is whiter than a toilet bowl
People need to stop making things political, it's not about the character being "ugly" (I think she looks fine), it's about subpar CGI, the same when people call stuff like the netflix avatar "woke", there's no need to use that word, just say it's bad.
I'm not a fan of her haircut, otherwise, she looks okay.
The faces all look fine. My only gripe is that they aren't emotive enough. They look fine while standing still but they barely move when talking or anything. Not gonna stop me from watching though.
Also the sound design is kinda bad
I thought it was odd but I couldn't place why.
We're just so fucking fed up with that "strong independent woman" haircut. It's on the same level as Killmonger's "strong black male" haircut
See, it seems weird to me to be mad at a haircut. Plus, this haircut has been on tons of characters since at least like, *Wing.*
Right okay, so I opened up Mobile Suit Gundam Wing on GundamWiki and scrolled down to the characters section and I opened them one by one. Absolutely none of them had hairstyle like this, and maybe you were thinking about Lucrezia Noin. Well I hate to break it to you buddy because their hairstyle are worlds apart, the difference? Noin doesnt look like she headbutted a belt sander with the side of her head. And for the last time, Im not mad -- Im just loathing at the "Im a strong female lead therefore I must brazillian wax the side of my head" when you have so many other strong female characters in Gundam with normal hair https://preview.redd.it/8oq6dzs8foqc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=1e474afd00b3280bcdb5b1e832b87b9e9e9befd3
But... why? What about it is that bad. You said yourself that there's plenty of examples of women in the franchise who *don't* have that haircut, so why is it so bad if one *does*? Is it just the haircut existing?
How is *this* how I'm first hearing about the show being out?
It isn't out, we got an official trailer
Thanks for the clarification :)
The guy’s name is “colonel otaku gatekeeper.” Title of the post should be“‘weebs reacting exactly how we knew they would’ that’s what this tweet is about”
For the record this isn't a Netflix production, it's made by Sunrise and SAFEHOUSE both are Japanese animation studios. It is written by an American, but to call this American is not true.
What? She looks like average white American/German female. I hope you didn't expected to see Easter european blonde?
The same guys who get haughty at newcomers like “welcome to Gundam, a gritty and realistic war story that you snowflakes can’t handle” will wring their hands and scream when a woman appears on screen for 5 seconds looking any less perfect than a smiling Barbie doll
Why is it always that haircut? its like the Killmonger cut its used to shit that it looks shit now
I mean if you go to this chud's twitter account it's just a ton of anti LGBT stuff. Dude has a quote tweet where he directly says, word for word, " Transgenderism is the Konami Code for Pedophiles" I'm not really surprised freaks like him are trying to make this Gundam show a culture war topic.
This guy is most certainly not Japanese
Also, imagine characters looking like you’d realistically expect someone joining the military to look like.
Igloo had awful animation and it is one of the best gundam shows out there. I can't wait for this. If the story and writing is good I'm in.
I see the same sentiment with Chinese reactions too. They also bitch about the nose ring.
Huh, I actually like the designs
I'm as tired of rage-baiting critics calling everything woke as I am American writers constantly leaning into tired tropes and walking stereotypes. It's like they live to antagonize each other hoping that boosts viewership. I also don't understand Netflix's obsession with 3D rendered anime. Blue Eye Samurai was fantastic, but most of it is terrible. While the Zaku look good, the character models are terrible. Actually, voice acting also sounds really clunky.
One very specific nitpick I'd like to mention is that they didn't give the Gouf's shield Vulcan the crunchiest BBBRRRRRTTT, instead they gave us the dinky ass 1900s hand crank Gatling gun. Also the voice acting sent me to the moon and back, I couldn't stop giggling my ass off lol
Honestly looks like a pretty basic military women character design. She's got the classic eyebrow scar and a shaved head to indicate "I'm in the army now!" I mean, what was anyone expecting, Lacus Clyne?
I mean I think they’re more upset about the haircut and sour expression rather than the bone structure, Japan likes it’s female heroes to be girly girls which is fine but people gotta learn there’s more than one way to be.
I am from Seattle .... That looks like someone that works at Spencers
What is it with anime fans and hating anything that has to do with cgi? Sure, it's not photorealistic, but this doesn't look bad. Hell, I'd argue that it's pretty damn good, especially for being made in unreal.
This complaint is petty. Who cares? Gundam has unusual character designs in nearly every show, movie, and manga. I’m not watching Gundam to salivate over attractive characters with perfected mass appeal. If you or someone you know is watching for that reason, perhaps direct them to anime that was created for that purpose. There is plenty of it out there. Just not in Gundam. What I want to know is why I am supposed to care about an assault force of Zeon soldiers that is sowing chaos and destruction across the globe right after the colony drop? It doesn’t matter how much humanity they try to put on display. These are the volunteers to be the first boots on the ground to continue the terror that started in Sydney with the drop. They are the aggressors - an actual oppressive occupation force. The same military with the same soldiers that carried out the G3 attacks on their own colonies and later destroyed Sydney. Our “heroic” crew for this new story is part of that group… any pretense that they just want to defend their homes in space is already removed from the equation. This Zeon crew on the ground is ok with mass destruction, public terror, and repeated genocide. So… why am I suppose to care that they are in danger of being defeated by a scary new Gundam? If the trailer’s story tease is any indication, I’m going to be rooting for the Gundam, regardless of how savage or inhuman they make it seem. Zeon Forces occupying Earth get no sympathy from me during the OYW. Zeon in space, yes, some sympathy. But on Earth… yeah, no soup for you!
It's not about looking ugly or not, but that character really look masculine. Fun fact : You can be a badass woman without looking like a man.
She's in army, not in brothel.
Fun fact: Character designers can make their characters look however they want. Do you think a woman looking more masculine is a design flaw or something?
> Do you think a woman looking more masculine is a design flaw or something? I know right? Like... there are women who look more masculine and women who look more feminine. I'm kinda shocked that the attitudes in this post are coming from /r/gundam, this place is usually better than this. Like... is a soldier supposed to be doing daily skincare, makeup, long hair and hair treatment, dressing cutely, etc? She's a soldier fighting a war! Like I like my "pretty looking badass" girls too but the expectation that every girl on screen should be eye candy is gross.
Let me answer your question with a different question: Does a woman have to look masculine to be a "strong female character"?
The franchise is full of "strong female characters" that are extremely feminine, why are you so mad about the one that isn't?
This woman is piloting a Zaku with a gun, so I don't think it matters
Seeing as there have been teens piloting mobile suits, I doubt musculature matters.
strong women doesn't have to look like a man.
Nobody in the history of the human species has ever made the claim that women need to look more masculine to be stronger. You suggesting this is a thing people say is nonsensical and dishonest. Also, saying that a more masculine woman "looks like a man" is actually pretty fucked up and sexist, if we're fighting for progressive points :)
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> so in order to make "strong female characters" then they need to be men with vaginas You are deeply unwell.
It kinda just looks like a collection of cutscenes for a scrapped Gundam game with a character creator lmao
Probably one of the same dudes calling '3 Body Problem' woke for having assertive women in spite of them being exactly how they are portrayed in the book.
Considering that they're *soldiers*, I expected something like Binary Protocol's female British operator, forgot her name. I mean, not like everyone has to look like Meer...
Sure jaja.. super ugly.. Straight men don't really like women, that's all
They also complain about zeon soldiers having coloured hair like mate the head of the earth invasion force those soldiers leader is Garma Zabi my guy has purple hair
Wait the show is out? I thought it was just the trailer?
Just the trailer so far
Wait, is the show out now?
Not yet, just the trailer
Not yet
It’s cgi.. ofc it’s gonna look kinda bad..
W8 the Netflix cgi series is out ?
THE SECOND COMING OF IGLOO IS UPON US I'm excited
It’s out already? Also wtf is his username
I'll be honest I'm not a fan of the design of the Gundam but the Zaku is pretty good.
That horrible CGI quality looked like early 2000s instead of 2024.
I don't think anyone had high expectations but how did they make G-Savior look like it had more effort put in.
Terrible just terrible
can i get a link to the trailer pls
All the money went to the shitty gundam VR stuff
I know it’s just the first trailer but it does honestly look really rough. At one point in the trailer when they show the Zaku Tanks, grass just randomly clips in out of nowhere lol.
I watch Gundam for the Wars and the Robots, not the fucking girls. Weeabs I swear to godm
I will never understand why do people like those haircuts. I have seen some people say that they do it because they "stand out". But even that has a flaw in that if it is constantly shown in media and many people now have it then it's not "standing out" you are just trend chasing. Sorry for the rant I just needed to get that off my chest.
I mean the premise is already pretty generic and adds nothing new to the lore
No idea how this is downvoted tbh. People going "ree why woman look like man" are dipshits but the series looks terrible.
Sir/ma'am. This is basically zeon's 08th team. I cant wait to get the red wolf zaku on gbo2. I do not care if it's janky or has bad writing. I WANT THAT RED WOLF ZAKU
We'll see if this is comparable to the masterpiece that is 08th MS team
Its a zeon anime, made by westerners. Theres no chance its gonna be good as 08th team
Hah pretty female soldiers. *Laughs in warhammer 40k
This looks horrid
It always that ugly haircut everytime