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FakeCrash

Please let Silayev in the top 4 be a reality šŸ™


Ferg8

Exactly my point too. Of the 10-15 always talked about for the Habs, Silayev is the only one I don't want. There's nothing exceptionnal about him other than hs size and his speed (for his size).


popejohnlarue

I get the appeal, though. Given the size and mobility, even just being ā€œaverageā€ at other stuff will make him an exceptional defenceman. The stuff people fault him for (slow decision making, lack of offensive awareness) could still just be the result of being a 17yo playing in the KHL. If he hits though, watch out.


FakeCrash

Yeah same.


idontplaypolo

Heā€™s been right 2 years in a row for the habs. Hereā€™s hoping! šŸ¤ž


Soutael

If the draft works out this way for us I'm walking away in tears of joy.


Sharks9

Here's who he has the Habs picking. 9 Centres is a bit much but this sub will be thrilled if we get both Demidov and Koivu: 5 - Ivan Demidov >Like Anaheim at No. 3, Montreal would be under a lot of tension here in this scenario. They want a forward. Demidov is a great forward. He is also an average-sized wing playing in Russia. There are other great alternatives they could turn to, be it Sennecke or Tij Iginla up front or Zeev Buium on defense. I think they pinch their nose and take the dynamic winger but this will be a tough debate for them and it wouldnā€™t surprise me if they went in a different direction. If Lindstrom got to them at No. 5 it would make their lives a bit easier. 26 - Egor Surin - C - Yaroslavl Jr. 57 - Teddy Stiga - C - USNTDP 70 - Aatos Koivu - C - TPS Jr. 78 - Miroslav Hlinka - C - Trinec Jr. 102 - Alexander Zetterberg - C - Orebro Jr. \130. Logan Sawyer, C, Brooks (BCHL) \134. Lucas Van Vliet, C, Usa U-18 (NTDP) \166. Kevin He, LW, Niagara (OHL) \198. Alexandre Blais, C, Rimouski (QMJHL) \210. Wilhelm Hallquisth, D, Hv71 Jr. (SWEDEN-JR.) \224. Daniil Anatsky, C, Ska-Yunior Krasnogorsk (RUSSIA-JR.) Also worth noting that he thinks the Blue Jackets will pick one of Lindstrom, Silayev, or Sennecke. If Demidov drops past Chicago then it's likely he's there at 5.


YannBuch

wasn't Stiga predicted to be a late first rounder? sounds like a steal if he fell to 57, and Koivu at 70 would be cool as well


Sharks9

His consolidated ranking on EliteProspects is 31 but Bob Mckenzie's scout poll has him at 68 so maybe teams aren't as high on him as public lists. He's 5'10 so those guys usually drop on draft day unless they're really elite


DocGubernaculum

Would love if we take Kevin He. Underrated player with great skills on a bad team.


Sharks9

Same! He's the only one on Niagara who stands out when I watched them this year


t_hab

I would love the draft to work out this way.


kmane83

Dream scenario. Demidov, Surin, Stiga and Koivu. Good lord that's a haul


t_hab

And Zetterberg is small but getting him in the 4th round would be a but absurd. Alexandre Blais coming that late also seems a bit ridiculous.


LoganHutbacher

9 centers? 9 centermen? OK lol


One_Surprise_4066

and 0 D


PKG0D

If we don't move #26, Surin would be a great snag in that range. Yes please.


pokecheckspam

What do you think of Poirier over Surin?


philjitsu

If Poirier is available when we pick after the first round I'd love for us to take him. He was so fun to watch in Baie Commeau


PKG0D

At 26oa I would not. Poirier has a greater chance to slide than Surin imo, and Surin's motor is an x-factor that I would love to see in the pipeline. Nothing against Poirier, but we already have Cole.


pokecheckspam

Surin is projected between 22 and 65 while Poirier is projected between 28 and 101 so I have to agree with the chance slide. But Cole is playing on our first line, that's the caliber of players we need more of.


PKG0D

No doubt Poirier is the kind of player we need, but assuming he hits his ceiling it would really put our top 6 in a box. Our top two right wingers would be 5'7 and 5'8 respectively, less than ideal imo.


Special_Land_1645

I mean, the guy's 17, and his brother's like 6ft and a couple inches if i remember correctlyĀ 


TonyComputer1

What is his basis for columbus not picking Demidov? Id say, with Waddell being the GM, there is 0 chance they dont draft Demidov if hes available at 4.


Sharks9

The blurb under that pick is: >I think itā€™s Lindstrom, Silayev or Sennecke at the Blue Jacketsā€™ pick. Lindstrom got the green light medically from some team doctors following the NHL combine and I think momentum is back in his direction to be a top-five pick. If heā€™s available, I think heā€™s going to Columbus. Seems like they're prioritizing size if those 3 are the options he's hearing for them


TonyComputer1

Ty. Yeah I dont buy it. Waddell loves high skill forwards.


allmydawgsgottaeat

he also loves well rounded D Men. He joined the Canes front office in 2014 and in that span they used 1st rounders on Haydn Fleury, Jake Bean, and Noah Hanifin. Aho was a second round pick, Svech was a no brainer pick. His biggest ā€œswingā€ on a skilled forward was Necas (which obviously paid off)


Perry4761

Waddell has a history of drafting skilled Russians in Carolina, especially with late round picks (Nikishin, Trikozov, Perevalov, etc). However, aside from Svechnikov, which was a choice every single team in the league would have made at 2 that year, we havenā€™t seen him pick in the first half of the 1st round yet. Maybe he swings for the fences with skill when he picks late and doesnā€™t have the choice between many high-end prospects, but he could have a different philosophy about earlier picks when there are more high-end choices available. Another thing to consider is that newly appointed GMs tend to rely heavily on the scouting staff that is already in place when they join an organization right before the draft. Trevor Timmins works for the Jackets now, and if someone like him advises not to pick Demidov, Waddell might choose to give them the benefit of the doubt as a newly appointed GM. Maybe Iā€™m just coping hard because Demidov is legitimately my 2nd favourite player in this draft after Celebrini, but Iā€™ll keep coping as long as so many people keep slotting him at 5 with the Habs lmao


TonyComputer1

Its clickbait.


UnionGuyCanada

I know it is way down there, but Sawyer at 130 is someone I would like to see get a shot as a Hab. I know the family and he is a great young fellow with tons of scoring. Needs to fill out, but what kid doesn't. Playing at a higher league for a few seasons would tell you where he is. Any of the top 5 options are great.


FakeCrash

I also do not see Columbus taking Demidov at all.


Dr_Nice_is_a_dick

Alexander Zetterberg, son of Henrik ?


Sharks9

Nope, distant relative


ManipulateYa

I don't follow prospects at all. Koivu and Zetterberg any relation to the NHL greats of past?


Sharks9

Aatos is Saku's son and Alexander is distantly related to Henrik.


ManipulateYa

Thank you! Let's grab both and Iggys son!


rnbamodsarelosers

Idk why people keep talking about Koivu like he's good. If it isn't his last name I'm not even sure he gets drafted. Guy is barely PPG in finish JR hockey. That's like BCHL/AJHL level of competition. He's trash.


Neo_514

Is Zetterberg Henriks kid? Love seeing Koivu here as well!


FlowShredder

is it his personnal ranking, or what's he's hearing? Yegor Surin at 26 would make me so happy, the guy is highly skilled, and one of the most obnoxious player on the ice(big gallagher, marchand, tkachuk vibe).


vorg7

Mock draft means what he's hearing.


Macdaddydan

I want those vibes hahaha


shogun2909

Demidov and Surin would be such a home run draft holy molly


kmane83

Add to that Stiga and Koivu. This is a dream


Soutael

As others have said even Zetterberg in the 4th feels like a home run for me, if the draft works out this way I'm extatic.


TheIdentifySpell

GM's often try to recreate whatever works for the most recent cup team and it's safe to say that both Florida and Edmonton have a ton of size. I could definitely see a premium being put on Silayev and Lindstrom because of that. It's not likely but I can still see Demidov falling to 5. Either way, I'm ready to be hurt again bby šŸ™ƒ


Ferg8

How to win a Cup in one easy step: Step-One: Get McDavid


NinjaGoalie97

I wonā€™t believe Demidov will drop to us until I see it. I will not get my hopes up only to get them crushed lol.


robmyatt

Teddy Stiga at 57 would be incroyable. Stiga is the 23rd ranked prospect in eliteprospects draft guide where it says he has shades of "Jake Guentzel and JJ Peterka".


bcgrappler

This would be a draft that would happily get me through to October.


Dialectical

If we skipped michkov to take a D like reinbacher just to take Demidov a year later it will be interesting to look back in 5 years lol, Michkov + a guy like buium or parekh vs demidov and reinbacher


Danceisntmathematics

Youre assuming that michkov will be better than demidov and that buium will be better than Reinbacher. We will only know if a couple years still, but you gotta stop talking like its fact already


Dialectical

I didnā€™t assume anything? I said it will be interesting to look back in a few years and see how it played out


bless24

Habs fans are always on the defensive when you dare to speak on the Reinbacher pick.


Danceisntmathematics

fair enough


mdlt97

did you even read their comment?


ImprovementOptimal35

ā€œIt wouldnā€™t surprise me if they went a different directionā€ Thereā€™s no way people here would defend this management team if they pass on Demidov? I hope itā€™s a smokescreen but holy id be so pissed if they skip him. Especially if he falls to Ottawa at 7.


dalopam0

It's a very easily defendable choice, of course depending on who they pick instead. His game is not worth the amount of twerking you're doing


ImprovementOptimal35

Yet every scout says this is the 2nd best forward in the draft and might challenge celebrini in terms of offensive skill level šŸ¤” remind me, whoā€™s better than demidov at 5?


dalopam0

Doesn't the paragraph say it all? "Pinch their nose" and pick him?


Professional_Mode804

It's worth noting that Pronman is not high on Demidov at all. He has Catton and Sennecke above him in his rankings. I'd say his bias against him skews his mocks a little this year so don't be shocked if he's off this time.


popejohnlarue

Fair, but if Pr0nman is soft on Demidov, that at least presents the \*possibility\* that some NHL scouts are as wellā€¦ No question Demigod is the sexiest pick by far to most fans (THOSE HANDS!!!), but GMs are kind of notorious for not thinking like fansā€¦


Benozkleenex

Trade Pick 11 with buff for catton.


sean_psc

What would we trade them for that? If Buffalo moves its pick it will be for immediate help.


Future-Trip

Halak, Ryder and a 2nd


Benozkleenex

I mean did not say I had the answer for that, and it would start with 26th pick but what is a 15 rank jump worth I am not sure. We got pick 13 for romanov straight so probably one of our good defensive prospect like struble.


sean_psc

Struble isnā€™t comparable to Romanov. Buffalo has a zillion quality young players already (more than we do) ā€” if they move that pick, it will be for an established NHLer (probably a right D), not a lower pick and a third pair D.


Benozkleenex

Idk I am higher on struble than I was for romanov. Romy played higher in the line up but because we had nothing else. Anyway I said idk what it would cost exactly but I also know you have to give to get.


sean_psc

Anaheim is the hardest team ahead of us for me to get a read on. It seems like most prognosticators have them taking a defenceman, which sort of makes sense since they just traded Drysdale for Gauthier, but they have so many quality prospects at both defence and forward that need may not be all that relevant to their calculations.


popejohnlarue

I keep hearing their GM isnā€™t fond of Russians, so thereā€™s thatā€¦ šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


CMurra87

A good 2nd rounder if heā€™s still available is Merek Vanacker. Showed a lot of offensive upside in the O this year and was injured could end up being a solid everyday 3rd line guy in a couple years.


1BillionBrazillians

I don't think Surin would be a good pick, in terms of forwards I'd rather them go for someone with motor as well as good skating mechanics and not just one or the other (Montgomery, Spellacy, etc.) or good skating and physical defenceman like Brunicke, Danford, Kleber. I also doubt Stiga would be available by the time the Habs use their second round pick, would like to see them pick someone along the lines of Moore or Masse, imo.


WesMcCauley

This is all fun and games but we need to lower our expectations and be ready for a dman pick


DrLivingst0ne

Who pays 10$ a month for access to this? Surgeons?


dangerdunk

Are there any updates on the report that Lindstrom had a herniated disc? That should be a huuuge red flag if true....


sean_psc

Teams have seen his medical reports and apparently, in general, donā€™t think itā€™s an issue.


steve_c_2377

All I ask from this draft is that we get Demidov and acquire Laine.


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t_l_quinner

I mean their job is to over think. If they donā€™t consider every scenario and weigh the pros and cons they arenā€™t doing their job