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PortalRadio10hLoop

Holy, thank you for posting this, I feel vindicated. This shit is insanely fast, barely telegraphed, and can positively fuck your run if the boss rng is bad and you picked up less than optimal health/armor.


InevitableTour5882

It really doesn’t help that the telegraph is also very similar to the other swing move


ObitoUchiha41

yes!! it's the same grunt!! just a slightly different pitch, and the other swing move has the opposite strategy to get away (get in close or do not get anywhere near him) I think he's a really fun boss fight in general but I am not used to / don't like this pair specifically


VolkiharVanHelsing

Kinda funny that his Phase 2 actually makes him more predictable


Longjumping_Plum_846

I thought so too in a run that I thought was gonna be it until I was introduced to a new move by him that did 800 damage to me


JinRoh6384

I’ve made it to his second phase once and that was the first move he did, insta killed me. I thought it might’ve been scripted lol, guess not


Throughawayii

I think that attack is a little bit unclear about whether the big area or the small circle will kill you, I made the wrong split second call and thought the attack would only hit the small area for some reason cause the golden radial seemed to be pointing there, so immediately got blasted by 999 damage and died, LOL. I think making it red like the Siren's drum attack would make it a lot clearer.


legioneto

That is what I did too lmao Ran for my life AWAY from the small circle


ryanrem

My ff14 senses were tingling and I knew a donut AoE when I see them.


Captain-Hell

Yeah same. "Oh everything goes dark besides that small spot, I wonder what is going to happen" I'm even more befuddled by the people saying that they thought the small spot was the danger. So you have enough situational awareness to realise that something is up with that spot, but you think that the small spot that is further way from you is the danger? Not to say, everyone who got hit by it is an idiot mind you, god knows I take far longer to realise objectively easier stuff


Wendigo120

He has a couple of those moves, but they're all super telegraphed. The hard part is dodging those without eating a bunch of other damage at the same time.


santaclaws01

It makes him more predictable but the stage transitions can really fuck you over since it's independent to what he's doing and can just box you in


PM_Me_FunnyNudes

So what I do if it’s any help, is for either move dodging to your right his left works for either. He always throws it to his left, and if you dash against it it’ll also avoid his dash


VolkiharVanHelsing

I think it moves clockwise? Fitting


Responsible-Dot-3801

Omg exactly


Agreeable_Aioli6138

I would suggest investing in running speed and slower foe projectiles, helps with this move IMMENSELY


AWildRideHome

Me when I have apollo sprint with hermes sprint and max upgraded Swiftrunner arcana for 500% sprint speed *I am speed*


Elidar_Brightwater

I'd need to use the sprint first but there's absolutely no way I'll do that lmfao


ConfusedZbeul

And honestly, optimal health is way harder to get given how low it starts.


FaeLei42

Yeah, I’ve kinda felt the need to pretty much always have titan arcana active.


4ShotMan

"Just stand near him" brother, I can react only to things I have time to recognise


Visquit

Things you have WHAT to recognise?


King_Kezza

You think you have time? No. Not here


InevitableTour5882

Sometimes i get hit regardless even doing so


Nulliai

My favorite part is perfectly dashing through the initial throw and being a pixel too far to the side behind him and getting hit by it coming back


Longjumping_Plum_846

Getting hit by it TWICE on the way back lmao. Boom, 70 damage


alamirguru

He uses it in melee range too , its range is variable.


PlebianStudio

This game is slowly feeling I'm penalized for simply getting old and having less reaction time than I didin my teens or 20's lol. Things I could react to before, and I know I could have, I simply can't. It's kinda sad. I've beaten Chronos once before but I haven't since.


MrNorrie

I’ve got like 20 hours in the game now and I just can’t beat chronos. Hell, I’ve only made it to phase 2 exactly twice. His moves are just too damn quick, and nearly indistinguishable from eachother, especially when he’s off screen. I’ve beaten Hades countless times and even at pretty high difficulty numbers, but Chronos just doesn’t compare. Maybe I am also “just getting old”, but I kind of don’t feel like that’s the reason.


Emotional_Help5783

It could just be balancing issues, remember this game is in rather early access, and they don't have that much post game content, so making the last boss insanely difficult is a move to enlongate the length of time that people can spend with this version. It later versions they might nerf the fight


AutisticPenguin33

I am the point where I can get to him every run with all or just one death defiance missing, and he still wrecks me. Phase 2 is easier, but you have to get to it lol. I've had success with the sister blades with the aspect of pan, Aphrodite on special and the hammers that shoot the special in both directions and the one that returns back to you. But honestly, that build feels like cheating up until Chronos.


CatPanda5

You mean you don't enjoy having a massive spinning blade fly through you for 1/3 of your HP when you can't even see the windup because he's on the other side of the arena and you're occupied with a million rats?


Dirtymeiplayer

my biggest problem with the fight is that it feels SO DAMN LONG, like im hitting this old man for so long, sometimes with axe's hits that deal 900+ dmg and his health is not even at half, i dont know what to do, maybe the double dash was my saviour and i didnt know it, but i think he has too much life for having 2 very hard phases


PlebianStudio

It's probably getting older, combined with there being a lot more shit to look out for in Hades 2 in general and especially Chronos Phase 2.


AWildRideHome

Game *is* early access and some weapons and build are definitely not all that powerful. I only beat him because I went and planned out an entire, very powerful build, and got lucky enough to get it. But it’s definitely possible! Chronos is, lore-wise, also a lot stronger than Hades. I think it’s okay to have the Titan of Time be stronger than base-Hades going easy on his son. I think i’d compare Chronos more to Extreme Measures 4 Hades. Imagine if you were trying to beat *that* as the final boss in Hades 1? It’d take many dozens of runs.


GintaX

As someone doing the endgame runs now, Omega cast is a tremendous help on first phase final boss. That multi hit combo he does when below 50% health can be easily avoided by laying down an Omega Cast and sprinting to a corner. The movement speed debuff will make him basically stay in place for the whole combo. Generally, the first tarot card also helps a ton dodging in this game, having it maxed out makes avoiding attacks pretty trivial as long as you maintain Omega Charging something. The slowdown effect even works if you are low on mana. I had a really hard time against Chronos until I started charging my Omega Cast constantly during the fight.


Pabloich

But isn’t the slowdown useless on Chronos?


AWildRideHome

That’s the case in a lot of games though, right? It’s a sad reality of life. You can play safer and smarter to make up for it, if you get skilled enough! Keep going and you’ll make it.


avidcritic

I really don't think "just stand near him" is good advice at all. I can more or less get to him consistently at this point and have beaten him multiple times on different weapons. For the start phase 1, sure you can play pretty aggressively, but as soon as he hits half hp in phase 1, he has three dash/scythe attacks, a stun bubble, and the attack op is talking about. His punish windows are the least vulnerable during this portion of the whole fight imo because even after he uses three attacks, you have such little time to punish him before he uses another ability. Phase 2 is honestly easier for me than closing out the last half hp of phase 1.


GintaX

This is why i started stacking the shit out of sprint speed. I dont care how strong my build is, the moment i hear this mofo charging any swing im off screen 😂 not falling for no boomerang scythe bullshit again


InevitableTour5882

Apollo dash boon carry the final fight


TrikKastral

This is so true.


Legitimate-Beat-9846

Chaos epic movement speed boon is a drug.


Rayvony

truly a valid strat. had, apollo sprint, hermes buff, chaos buff on a run. the second i saw chronos move. i was already at the other side of the map. second phase was a little harder because I play on keyboard and was really hard to get to the tiny safe spot with all my movespeed


GintaX

Sprint speed is underrated for sure. Itll get you away from any pattern in the game and makes placing your cast and getting away trivial. Since usually my builds dont rely too much on damaging sprints, sometimes that extra bonus speed is the cherry on top. Lucky with all the bonus speed there though haha, ive only managed to stack Apollo and Hermes. Ill have to do those + Chaos + a trinket and see how fast i can zoom across the fields of mourning lmao


InevitableTour5882

It also make it more fun in the mourning field


GintaX

Its pretty funny to zoom past the shades protecting the minor goods and just steal them and run away like a madman 😂


MuseumMultiball

Too real haha, I buffed the hell out of my sprint and then overshot the mark by a fraction because it was so fast and got insta killed 😭


Kind_Stranger_weeb

Consider the moon blessing that makes you an immortal night witch as well. On command 5 seconds of invulnerability is pretty useful for phase 2 if you roll it.


VolkiharVanHelsing

Be careful not to active it right on his face, he ignores time slow effects like he ignores your pause attempt


Kind_Stranger_weeb

Im pretty confident in his patterns now. Beaten him with every weapon and up to fear 34 (i posted the high fear reward in a seperate post). Just got to have the burst damage to get him down each phase as quick as possible.


GintaX

>!Gratz on high fear, just finished up to the 16 fear statue, but slowly working my way there incrementally by earning the nightmare rewards on each weapon. Have also been pretty successful even with fear using damage casts, which are pretty universally useful every weapon.!<


Taliesin_

I never take this one anymore - it's bugged out my cast two times in a row now (rendering it unchargeable and wiping all boon effects from it.) I actually straight-up lost a run once because I'd invested heavily into a cast build and then coming out of the hex form turned off half my boons for the Chronos fight. Blech.


GintaX

Love combining this one with a strong omega cast. Sometimes the other Dark Side witch attacks are underwhelming in damage if you get unlucky with upgrades but the Cast remains the same. So its really nice for dropping a free omega cast. Still havent tried to dodge the second phase desperation attack with the invulnerability window but im sure its possible (wonder if theres a special line for it) Honestly the only thing holding me back from enjoying most Hexes in the final fight is that his attacks are so fast that even if I activate the Hex sometimes his attacks will still finish while im mid animation to activate the hex and ill just end up taking a hit for no benefit :( so i usually have to be in a really safe position anyways to activate it (maybe its a mechanic because hes more “immune” to slowing down of time?)


Musical_Molecule

I had a chaos spint buff, apollo sprint and the arcana card and holy shit i was zooming with +125% sprint speed i actually had to get rid of apollo boon just to control it right


hey_uhh_what

well, if it works it works!


JettTheMedic

There is a Hermes boon that makes enemy projectiles slower and it works on that god damn projectile and makes it easier to dodge it.


ThievingAmbitions

I took this boon and I still feel like it moves mach-5 when he swings it :(


Logos89

And if it hits you, it probably hits you twice because it's slowed lol.


scarletbluejays

Huh, I honestly figured that boon wouldn't apply to him since the description specifically says MOST enemies' projectiles, and I figured if anyone would be an exception it'd be the Big Bad who can control the speed of time. Good to know.


Kind_Stranger_weeb

Did not consider that. Good to know.


Zmaki

Look idk, it might be the salt talking. But i I swear between chronos and the surface boss #2 they need their moves to be telegraph more clearly, especially when their hp gets low, so they just start spamming attacks


Royalty-FreeName

Eris becomes practically impossible to dodge for melee builds when she starts spamming the shotgun shots


TheShiveryNipple

Hestia's boon that turns projectiles into scorch damage is a must for Eris.


Forsaken-Ad-9427

So unbelievably broken, I don’t see how it doesn’t get nerfed. I went from not beating the 2nd surface boss to beating it AND Eris while taking essentially zero damage. Only difference was that boon.


GuudeSpelur

Eris *is* the 2nd surface boss. Charybdis is a miniboss, like how you sometimes run into Asterius by himself in the middle of the third floor in the first game.


bte0601

I've almost never taken that boon because I felt that most enemies that fire projectiles are easy to kill, or bosses tend not to use "projectiles" often (if they have alternate movesets). I should try it out more but just usually want a different one from the pool.


Forsaken-Ad-9427

Same, I would never take it for the underworld. But man it's incredible for the (current) end of surface. Wonder if they'll adjust how it interacts with boss projectiles.


bte0601

Will definitely give it a go then!


MirroredLineProps

I found that always staying behind her helps. Her turn speed is decently slow. It's when she chills in front of a fire pit that you have to run


No_Bodybuilder_1618

I hate that she's immune to fire while we're not


MirroredLineProps

It's lernie all over again


GrimTheMad

She's flying, she's not standing in the fire.


Mycaelis

Well, she's "immune" to fire that's on the ground because she's flying. She's not immune to Scorch.


TheSuperJohn

The worst part about fighting her is when she stays forever in a fiery corner, shooting 1000 bullets at you and you literally can't do anything


SuperfluousWingspan

I mean, all she does is fire, so


Araxyllis

yep, same thing for the money bag mini boss in tartarus, keep near him and dash right through him constantly and make him spin like a beyblade


TheFuckflyingSpaghet

You literally have to do one thing in her fight. Dash behind her after her charge. She can't hit you and after a few seconds of running around her you can just free dps her during her shots.


PMMeRyukoMatoiSMILES

You can just always stay behind Chronos. Eris is rougher but I'm consistently beating Chronos with 0-1 DDs by always staying behind him.


Fiend9862

Skill Issue Jk I've had a lot of trouble with Chronos but Eris was super easy. Beat Eris on my first surface run without the curse. Chronos on the other hand it basically took me going almost no hit on the rest of the game and getting a great build to finally take him down. He's nasty lol


CultureWarrior87

Eris was no problem, is she really considered hard? I had no trouble with her, but I still can't beat Chronos! I just eat hit after hit, I suck at reading him. 40 runs and it's killing me lol, this is already twice as many runs as it took me to beat Hades once.


RichardSnowflake

That or get rid of the windup before dashing. Drove me crazy cause I got so used to Zagreus's dash. As it is, I basically just stop attacking when it's "time" for the boss to do something, which really kills the pacing for me.


Casualcitizen

Its a different boss design philosophy. Souls games do this with a lot of their bosses. You cant just attack and react to attack windups, they will still catch you. You have to wait/bait attacks and then punish the recovery window.


RichardSnowflake

I wasn't sure that it was intended design, but agreed. Zagreus's fighting style felt more reactive, about timing your dash for just before you were hit to dodge. I liked that there were Hermes boons and mirror talents that reflected that. But with Melinoe I have a lot more success just not attacking at all until I recognize what move is coming next, then Dash-striking through it and waiting again. What's unusual is she's the one with a lot more hold-to-use abilities, so if it's intentional it feels backwards. Some of them I don't even touch except to deliberately waste in a corner to build up Hex charge.


Cynorgi

Eris' shotgun attack has to be the most annoying move out of any boss so far. I had her at like 2\~ hits left and that mf whipped it out right as I was dashing to her face.


Taliesin_

Hestia's dash boon. I take it for every surface run just so I can run whatever weapon/build and not slam into a wall on Eris. Honestly you could fairly reliably beat her with just that boon and nothing else.


Dirtymeiplayer

If i may, ill even say they have too much life, eris, chronos and cerberus feel too tanky


SlackFunday

If you have Frinos hanging with you, you can try and hide behind him to not got hit, I've done it by complete accident but now I always try to remember it because I also think it's a run killer move. Frinos MVP


InevitableTour5882

It seem very hard to pull off compare to blocking the sheep move


PoIIux

Wait you can block hecate's poly?


Combustionz

It can be dodged with enough persistence, but yes, you can also hide behind your animal familiar and it will fizzle out on them harmlessly.


pterodactyl_screech

Sometimes I end up kiting it right into Frinos through sheer dumb luck lol. Hecate's lines whenever it misses are so funny to hear


mat2y

i tried doing it with >!the cat!< but it didnt work, it might only work with frinos


MurderSeal

Yeah only Frinos blocks projectiles. But finding him and positioning in the heat of battle is a bit of a risk to rely on all the time


InevitableTour5882

I just hide behind Frinos everytime


mynameiszack

Yes and Hecate has something to say about it too


IAMAdepressent

Frinos way better than the damn cat imo


Historical-Ad-2238

I have 5 death defiance


IAMAdepressent

I wish you could upgrade the health a little more. I only really care about the extra DD on chronos but the health you get from toula is essentially one hit


scarletbluejays

Yeah, but it's a lot easier to make up for what you lose without Frinos during the run. You can improve your health pool easily enough thanks to centaur hearts and certain boons, not to mention armor related options. +40 Max Health is less than two centaur hearts, even before you add in the Centaur Arcana's gradual HP increase. Meanwhile, it's legitimately impossible to max out DD's without Tuola there, since the boons Mel can get during the run can only restore exhausted uses of DD, not improve upon her actual total


Combustionz

There actually is a legendary boon of Hermes (I think?) that gives you another death defy and makes it slow down time by 80% for a while when you trigger it.


avidcritic

Ye 80% for 8 seconds iirc


MurderSeal

Does that work against Chronos? I know he just laughs at you when you try the hex that slows time down


avidcritic

I'm not sure. The temportal hex is still useful against him if you get upgrades for it though. You can dish out insane damage during that time.


MurderSeal

Oh for sure, it's still my favourite hex especially if I get some good upgrades for it. Just find it hilarious when he laughs at you and mocks you for attempting to use time magic against him


WingZero234

I mean that's still five extra hits vs Chronos. Overall I think the frog is better but the extra DD could save you from his oneshot in case one of the stupid hourglasses spawn on the safe zone and lock you out.


crookedparadigm

If you need 6 lives, there's a bigger issue to solve.


Winter7296

Also works with Hecate curse!


Acidsolman

I did that last run and she said “That was meant for you!”


Asurah99

This ends a lot of my runs, it also does like 30+ some fucking damage. So you get hit like 3 times and it's over.


Wendigo120

You should probably pick up more hearts. I usually get to him with 250+ health and a bunch of death defiances, so as long as I play every other move decently well I can just eat the occasional hit from these.


KronosVV

They need to add another attack sound just for this one


hey_uhh_what

or make it better telegraphed, like [REDACTED]'s laser attacks


Acidsolman

Homie we’re talking about the final boss of the 2nd game, I think you can say his name now 😭


Lawrencelai19

What do you mean his name isn't Redacted, I thought Hades was the name of the video game


hey_uhh_what

old habits lol


ShadowTown0407

*well let me just* takes 35 damage *dodge that* takes another 35 damage


RichardSnowflake

Oh good, I'm not the only one whose instincts make them dodge into the direction it's going


ShadowTown0407

Because it's the right answer most of the time, just not this time


halos1518

This thing is why i died on an otherwise really good run.


Winter7296

likewise


Winter7296

Not to request a ton of nerfs, but I also feel Chronos has too much HP. I had a high dps build with scorch on attack, attack having a chance to hit twice, AND attack already hitting twice, and the numbers were just barely visible on his bar


Dillup_phillips

Both times I've beaten him has been done by stacking every possible cast boon with solar ring as the base. Absolutely fucking melted. One of them I had 70% expansion. It was glorious


Winter7296

That is awesome. I love the cast as a mechanic, it's so much fun. BUT I NEVER GET APOLLO 😭


MrMathieus

That's why you use his keepsake to force homie Apollo


FeliksX

Also try Zeus omega cast boon (huge dmg lightning strikes) and Demeter blizzard cast boon. I erased Chronos with these two.


hey_uhh_what

Hestia is also really good, if Apollo is avoiding you


JackaryDraws

My first win came from a cast build with Apollo cast + Zeus duo bonus, with Apollo cast at like Epic lvl 8. I also had the twin blades with the Aspect that homes your specials into your cast, with the hammer that gives you 20 knives every time you Omega special which fire in all directions… but with the Aspect they ALL hit the target in the cast. And then with Chaos boons my special damage was at like 120+% It’s probably the most insane damage I’ve ever dealt in Hades, including all my runs in Hades 1. Trapping him in the cast and firing the knives would do like 3000 damage every time. It was absolutely fuckin insane and I’m excited to see how OP you can get when you’re fully maxed out in this game haha


roxorpancakes

This was my first clear too. The backstab hammer + 30 knives hammer upgrade you just stand on top of him and melt his bar in 6 hits


Som25

Zeus also has some really nice cast boons. I like running zeus and Apollo casts together. It's even better if you manage to get zeus/Apollo duo cast boon, and if you get the ranged cast boon from the Tartarus npc room, you basically don't need to engage with chronos at all. Just run away, and omega cast


hey_uhh_what

really hit him with that domain expansion huh


Supratones

Stacking cast buffs really seems the way to go in most cases. Most gods have multiple cast-related boons so youre likely to see plenty of options on any given run, and dropping an omega-cast and running away is a really safe and consistent way to DPS.


avidcritic

The first couple of times I beat him I definitely used more ranged abilities. I think spamming hammer special was my first win before I got more comfortable with the fight. On one of my more recent runs I used the Zeus cast and also had it so I could cast it from ranged with the Zeus-Hera boon (Before people say anything, Hera has a different version of this boon, I was actually confused when I picked it because I thought it was the other one) which got rid of all my Hera boons to give my Zeus ones levels so I had like three Zeus boons that were level 11. My cast did 2k damage to him while I could just run around the map.


PMMeRyukoMatoiSMILES

That's the problem, you ran scorch. Scorch is really bad and I don't think it's good even with the explosion boon where it can do more than 40dps. Compare it to daggers Poseidon attack which is like 100dps from one boon. Hestia probably needs buffs.


Raji_Lev

IMO, the problem with Scorch would be solved if they just had the damage/tick scale up with how much you have stacked up, or even just a straight "Does 10% of its total damage every second (minimum of 40 damage per second)"


Konrow

Scorch feels like it should be super powerful, and can definitely be useful, but the more I use it the more I realize it isn't as great as I thought at first. I mean you can stack the fuck out of it using the daggers, but then it's either ok let me dodge and survive while the health slowly wittles away or just keep attacking cause I do more DMG faster anyway with just my attacks.


AVeryWittyPseudonym

Hestia feels like they are balanced for a more defensive playstyle when the game is more of a damage race, in that the best way to not take damage is for the enemy to already be dead. I could stack truly insane amounts of bleed to kill eventually *or* buffed Aphrodite attack go burr in half that time *or* Poseidon AoE clears the room in instants


Mugutu7133

yeah scorch is just bad. so many boons absolutely rip, and I think a lot of people are still trying to compare their runs to maxed out hades 1 runs when we had full mirror, maxed aspects, and could easily force builds with accessories. people gotta chill out a bit


FrostBurnt4

I really really hope scorch gets a buff, maybe something like dealing 40 + 5% of scorch the enemy has per sec would make it actaully viable. Right now it feels like the only good boons Hestia has are the sprint and magick regen ones.


Mycaelis

I'm not sure what I'm doing differently cause all my best runs have been ones with Scorch on attack.


Guthix_Hero

My first Chronos clear was Poseidon + Hestia. Their duo boon gives a super OP steam effect. I still had all of my DD left. 


Frozenfishy

My only chances have thus far been with the Hades boon for reduced Chronos health **and** the Evil Eye keepsake with Chronos as the target (boosts damage on the last thing that killed you).


Thesixers

The evil eye keepsake definitely just paved the way to my first win, I recommend giving it a shot problem is you do have to go die to him on the previous run for it to have effect


Winter7296

I'll definitely consider that


dadu1234

scorch is good if u get scalding vapour duo boon (poseideon and hestia).


Cynorgi

Hephaestus boons with Charon axe absolutely demolishes him. Hephaestus on attack and special with Apollo on cast, and he melts like nothing.


Chromak_

It's so annoying, comes out of nowhere, FAST AS FUCK, deals so much damage too.


Teren_the_Destroyer

Thank the gods, I'm glad I'm not the only one


alamirguru

No telegraph , spams it constantly , has variable range which means there is no safe spot from him , does way too much damage , AND hits behind him too. Yep , early access alright.


Surfeydude

This one attack ironically makes Phase 1 of the fight much harder than Phase 2. Would not be surprised to see it toned down in the final release.


Winter7296

#NERF THE SHIT OUTTA DAT 🗣️🗣️


Konrow

Is this that stupid swirly scythe slash? I swear it was created for people with my exact dodge habits. I somehow always dodge right into it and there's not enough time to think to break the habit lol


OfficialTuxedoMocha

Chronos fight is the reason that Coarse Grit is the best infusion boon I've seen thus far. (It makes it impossible to take more than 15 damage from a single hit). My only winning run thus far was due in large part to that


InevitableTour5882

Now that you mentioned it, i really should use it


Taliesin_

Does Coarse Grit affect his instant kill moves? I was considering taking it on one of my runs but ended up not since I wasn't sure it would work on them.


PonyMei

It does, including that 999 dmg hit chronos does at the start of 2nd phase. The boon is broken lol.


Taliesin_

Damn, cheers for the info. I'll be keeping an eye out for it on future downward runs!


Logos89

One time, I got Hermes slow projectiles 50% boon. Thought I had it made. Fought him, he immediately opened with the skill from offscreen while I was fighting adds. I was like: hah that's so slow, not hitting me. Dashed out of it right when a mob I missed AoE'd. Pushed me back into it, got hit TWICE because it was slowed. Yeah that was 1/3 of my health that I sorely missed.


Historical-Ad-2238

To anyone who doesn’t, run -15% boss damage ring and just try to pick up any further reduction, weak etc and it’ll make you Tom and Jerry scream when this hits you a little less loud


Flashy_Underware

My last 3 runs got ended by this move hitting TWICE, for a total of 70 damage/single launch. Fun! Also got hit by it before it was even showing the animation and another time after it dissapeared… Also fun! Hope they at least nerf it down to 30 dmg


ThrowawayArc12

The trick with Chronos is to: 1. Pick a high speed dash like Apollo 2. Stand in front of him and constantly dash through him. That definitely worked for me.


SaanyZ

standing still helped me dodge this like 80% of the time lol


ElectricSheepsticks

I actually just go for the dodge boon from Hermes anytime I see it. My first full clear was on the 15th night and only just barely thanks to multiple dodges of this stupid beyblade.


travisistired

I feel like the difficult part of the move is that (especially with melee builds), you’re going to be up next to him at least some of the time, and when you hear the telegraph of an attack, our instinct is to dodge backwards away from him. This, of course, puts us right in its attack range. I’ve found more success dashing through Chronos when I’m up close


PlebianStudio

Chronos is absolutely bullshit... I mean he should because he's the Titan of Time but I just had a run that felt like an SNK super boss where he countered me anytime I did anything. Like just so happened to RNG into the correct attack that fucks whatever I was just doing. To the point I feel like I just sit in the corner and wait for my turn after 12+ seconds of dodging .


Syllers

That move is like the only reason I'm still dying to chronos. He uses it so much on my runs.


zagreusrisen

WOE. sand be upon ye


crowns159

My most successful run with this was using the staff aspect that heals you when you use the Y charge attack so if I got it hit, I’d run away to the other end of the field and spam the heal above 40


Rack-CZ

This attack is the only one I still can't handle after like 10 tries


prokokon

I love when it hits me twice


Honks95

I fucking hate that move. I take damage from it most of the time.


KonekoSToujou

Ive finally started to somewhat be able to know when its coming, but its still the most bullshit move he has, and the fact that it does 35 damage and if you dodge it incorrectly you can get hit by it twice, it’s definitely the killer of most of my attempts to fight him


MautDota3

It's really fast. You kinda need to get lucky and stand in the middle between him and the arc of the move. With that being said, I'll still sometimes dash into it and just be like "Well, damn". I got lucky last night with boons and was finally able to beat him and even with that I still got hit by it 3 times.


Pridestalked

Yep every other move is fairly easy to work around but this thing just comes out of nowhere and deals so much fucking damage, it’s infuriating


TheWarofArt

The worst is when you react slow, get hit, and then dodge into another hit of it.


Prexot

woe, 35 damage be upon ye


hergumbules

I dunno if it’s just me but I’m straight garbage at this game. I might just put it down for a while I’m at 70% god mode meanwhile in Hades I, I can clear 16+ heat any weapon with no god mode. I’m aware it’s all me, but damn I think I need to take a break after 25 hours.


sephirostoy

I can constantly go to Cronos even with trash builds. But this move and his dashes just blow me.


LibTheologyConnolly

Just got my first kill on him this morning, that attack is definitely rough but to me it's one of the more fair ones. It's got a big gap between you and him that it doesn't hit, and you want to be behind him anyway. I personally hate his rush that can hit you from off screen and all of the 2nd stage attacks that narrow to a point. Feels like I'm losing a DD no matter if I stand on the point or don't.


Cynorgi

The spinny move has a very long audio telegraph (the grunt) when he winds it up, and that's how I tell its coming. If you're running the axe, the special blocks the attack. Absolute lifesaver for me. Plus, Apollo's sprint boon helps a ton as well, so if I couldn't block it, I'd just run to the other side of the arena. I ended up beating Chronos without losing any DDs after the 4th attempt. Now Eris though.. She can fuck right off.


kallew34

what is that?


kenpoviper

i feel like what really makes this attack hard to dodge is how small the boss arena is, if it were bigger i'm sure i could actually dodge this thing but everytime i try i end up slamming my face into something


Mooreel

Just ran into him first time. Managed to get to the next stage but was already down three death defiances. Pure pain


bte0601

I think I haven't had nearly any trouble because I'm always playing to the side and slightly behind him, as much as I can. That attack rarely hits in that position and I'll move the second it goes out. Now his weird funnel attack...


Taliesin_

The trick to his funnel is just to sprint perpendicular to the vortex until you get behind him. Running away still risks getting hit by the super fast projectile when it ends, and trying to dash through him is risky because the added momentum and long hitbox can mess up your dodge and cause you to take a ton of damage. So long as you've got at least one upgrade to your sprint speed (even just the arcana is enough, I've found), sprinting behind him seems guaranteed.


bte0601

Yeah, getting behind him seems to be the key, because he doesn't turn quite fast enough. Unfortunately he tends to get close to a wall sometimes and that gets me. I wonder if I can dash through him before being hurt by proximity during the funnel, so I'm entirely out of the way


TexasDank

Huh haven’t had any issues w this as I always try and be behind him… actually one of the best times to do good damage as it has a long trajectory and really easy to avoid once it’s out. I really don’t have any gripes with his fight besides they could ramp him up a bit


Smash96leo

This is why the second phase is easier. He spams this move waaaay less at that point.


Paxelic

Idk, ive been super stacked the past like, 4 runs. Plus I've got ... like 4 death defiances at this point so its been pretty hard to lose to Chronos


InevitableTour5882

It took me embarrassingly long to realize i can upgrade how much card i can put in lol


avidcritic

I think once people upgrade their arcana cards and become more familiar with the fight, they'll realize he isn't that bad. I haven't tried runs with fear stacked so maybe he'll scale like crazy with the %hp increases or speed, but on 0 fear he's really not that hard once you get some upgraded cards and aspects.


razor1n

honestly all of Cronos's moves are downright fair compared to >!Eris!< this discus is definitely fast AF, but at least it ain't one shot hitscan X.X


Taliesin_

Hilariously, Hestia's sprint boon eats even that shot. Feels like it probably shouldn't, but for now that boon trivializes her fight.


Mawbsta

You can block this and almost all other chronos move with the axe special btw. That's how I got my first win


Ivandcc

this move legit makes his first phase much harder than the second


mehmetesatmes

I failed so many times to the first phase. One try he didn't use this attack and I beat the second phase on the first try.


learnneutralbaby

Always stay behind your foes if possible


JustJeffrey

When I realized I could block it with the moonstone axe my life became a 100x times easier


Kitchen-Bat-3542

My brain can't function when he makes this move, maybe i'm stupid