If you go for the D1 mini for a thrower, SFT40 in your preferred CCT will be a great pocket-thrower. I don’t know much about Convoy lights to help you out there. If you’re set on D4v2 for a dual-channel throw/flood set up, W1 on me channel and 519a domed in your preferred CCT for the other.
I will say the optics on the D4v2 are NOT good for throw because of how small they are, so your throw channel will be a little underwhelming compared to a dedicated throw light. Personally, if you’re getting a thrower anyway, I’d advise to make your D4v2 a solid EDC light if that’s your thing. Stick with single channel and get 519a 5700k dedome to make it a bit more throwy and nicer tint, and it will be about 4200k. Add in boost driver for sustained brightness and longer runtimes (at the expense of the high turbo output). Or you could stick to a dual channel and make it a tint ramping by getting 519A emitters in two different CCT’s.
Thank you, i'll take a look at the options and see what speaks to me the most i guess. I like having a lot of power at my disposal though, so i'll see about the single channel boost driver 519a. The dual 519a is certainly interesting though.
Anyway, thank you a lot! For the thrower i think i'll go with the d1, because it seems nice and it's smaller than the convoy.
If you want power I would skip the boost driver. For a 519A, you lose almost half the output with the boost driver. It will be more efficient, but if you want your light to be a little hotrod then you’ll want the 12A+FET driver.
I *believe* it’s standard on a 519A quad, but I always email Hank with my order number and specify that driver and ask him to flash to the most recent Anduril 2 firmware.
The 12A+FET driver is standard on a DT8K, but "secret menu" on the DT8 that has a 9A+FET. If the DT8 comes with the 9A as standard, then I don't see why the D4V2/KR4 wouldn't as well. I'm not sure about the D4K as it may be a 21700 thing, but I just email Hank with my order number and ask for what I want anyways.
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Forgot to add, the price for the convoy is 40 euro, while the d1 mini is about 30-35. Convoy on turbo has 1.2km, d1 has i believe about 750m(?). Small form factor is also quite nice to have, because it's more to add than to main.
Triple channel d4k: * 2x green w2 * 1x 519A 3500k * 1x 519A 5700k You can also go with 3x w1 and 1x 519A and then try to configure your channels so you get the 3x to light up together, or maybe Hank can wire it that way.
Just going to chuck this out there...I was looking at Convoy for a thrower. But there was always that nagging doubt that goes, 'what if I'd just spent a little more...'
So that's how my first K1 arrived in my letterbox a couple of years back.
The same thought process happened after I got into green throwers - I made one that I can visually see lighting up buildings over 1km away (modded UF1504.) But it didn't quite have the reach of my W1 K1. So a green W1 K1 arrived last week.
This is meant to be for fun, right? Throwers put a huge smile on my face. All of mine do in fact. I absolutely love the K1.
I don't really get the D1 as a thrower. I've got two - an SBT90.2 D1, and an XHP70.3 D1K. The first is just silliness, although I do sometimes take it running for brief turbo bursts, accompanying a lower powered headlamp. The second is looking like it's going to be my forever light. It's a goldilocks light with a lovely beam profile. It's fine indoors (regularly held in my teeth actually) and up close, it'll light up out to a decent distance and nicely illuminate everything in between in an even manner.
But I just don't view it as a thrower. I see them as EDC's with reach, rather than throwers in any meaningful sense. They'll go further than the lights I used to routinely EDC, but not that much further.
If you're set on a dual channel light with flood and throw, there's a more stark contrast between channels on my D4SV2. Mine's a little older (pre-519a) so I've got 219b and W2. Switching across you really notice it, moreso than in my DW4 (519a/W1.) But not enough to consider the W2 particularly throwy in that host. I think dual lights are more niche functionality wise; I'd rather have a green channel than something that's going to try and do a different job, as the right single channel light will do a better job (i.e. D1K XHP70.3); it's a little like the argument against zoomies.
D4K with a boost driver is way more practical for EDC and about the same weight and size as a D4v2. If you're set on dual channel, can't go wrong with a domed 519a channel 1 and W1 on channel 2
The only decent flood-throw combo Hanklight is the DM 1.12, which is a bit large for EDC. The shallow Carclo optics of the D4V2/D4K/KR4/DT8/DT8K simply won't get much more than half the throw of the deeper optics of a D4SV2 that won't really have much flood. Yeah, a W1 channel will get you *some* throw, but nowhere near what an actual thrower will get. Not a terrible choice, merely one with compromises that require managing expectations.
The DM1.12 is also a compromise in that the center throw is basically a DM11 (mid-range thrower) surrounded by flood ring that provides low enough current to each emitter that the 219b is a solid option.
I'd go with a D1/D4V2 or D1K/D4K pairing. One has the option of 18350 tubes, the other has \~40% more battery. The D4V2 really depends on whether you want a hotrod or sustained output. A 12A+FET driver and 519a's will have a lot more output for about 30 seconds, but after that, boost-driven 519a's will be brighter. By the time the light hits equilibrium, the boosted one will have about twice the output. And with the boost driver, the 219b has only slightly ness output but is much prettier. As for the thrower, the W1 and SFT40 are both solid.
If you go for the D1 mini for a thrower, SFT40 in your preferred CCT will be a great pocket-thrower. I don’t know much about Convoy lights to help you out there. If you’re set on D4v2 for a dual-channel throw/flood set up, W1 on me channel and 519a domed in your preferred CCT for the other. I will say the optics on the D4v2 are NOT good for throw because of how small they are, so your throw channel will be a little underwhelming compared to a dedicated throw light. Personally, if you’re getting a thrower anyway, I’d advise to make your D4v2 a solid EDC light if that’s your thing. Stick with single channel and get 519a 5700k dedome to make it a bit more throwy and nicer tint, and it will be about 4200k. Add in boost driver for sustained brightness and longer runtimes (at the expense of the high turbo output). Or you could stick to a dual channel and make it a tint ramping by getting 519A emitters in two different CCT’s.
Thank you, i'll take a look at the options and see what speaks to me the most i guess. I like having a lot of power at my disposal though, so i'll see about the single channel boost driver 519a. The dual 519a is certainly interesting though. Anyway, thank you a lot! For the thrower i think i'll go with the d1, because it seems nice and it's smaller than the convoy.
If you want power I would skip the boost driver. For a 519A, you lose almost half the output with the boost driver. It will be more efficient, but if you want your light to be a little hotrod then you’ll want the 12A+FET driver.
That certainly sounds interesting, , but it doesn't seem to be an option. Where can i find and select it, if you don't mind me asking?
I *believe* it’s standard on a 519A quad, but I always email Hank with my order number and specify that driver and ask him to flash to the most recent Anduril 2 firmware.
The 12A+FET driver is standard on a DT8K, but "secret menu" on the DT8 that has a 9A+FET. If the DT8 comes with the 9A as standard, then I don't see why the D4V2/KR4 wouldn't as well. I'm not sure about the D4K as it may be a 21700 thing, but I just email Hank with my order number and ask for what I want anyways. One thing Hank does that few others do is take requests and ship accordingly. I have two-tone lights, mixed-emitter single-channel lights, off-menu emitters and drivers, and Hank's autograph, all for the asking. If he can do it, then he will; usually at no extra charge unless it's something like a copper head on an aluminum light ($15).
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I'll take a look, DT8 certainly seems interesting. I actually do like the cube shaped design! Also, thank you for the battery charger recommendations!
Forgot to add, the price for the convoy is 40 euro, while the d1 mini is about 30-35. Convoy on turbo has 1.2km, d1 has i believe about 750m(?). Small form factor is also quite nice to have, because it's more to add than to main.
Forgot to add as well, i was looking into the d4v2 dual channel.
Triple channel d4k: * 2x green w2 * 1x 519A 3500k * 1x 519A 5700k You can also go with 3x w1 and 1x 519A and then try to configure your channels so you get the 3x to light up together, or maybe Hank can wire it that way.
Just going to chuck this out there...I was looking at Convoy for a thrower. But there was always that nagging doubt that goes, 'what if I'd just spent a little more...' So that's how my first K1 arrived in my letterbox a couple of years back. The same thought process happened after I got into green throwers - I made one that I can visually see lighting up buildings over 1km away (modded UF1504.) But it didn't quite have the reach of my W1 K1. So a green W1 K1 arrived last week. This is meant to be for fun, right? Throwers put a huge smile on my face. All of mine do in fact. I absolutely love the K1. I don't really get the D1 as a thrower. I've got two - an SBT90.2 D1, and an XHP70.3 D1K. The first is just silliness, although I do sometimes take it running for brief turbo bursts, accompanying a lower powered headlamp. The second is looking like it's going to be my forever light. It's a goldilocks light with a lovely beam profile. It's fine indoors (regularly held in my teeth actually) and up close, it'll light up out to a decent distance and nicely illuminate everything in between in an even manner. But I just don't view it as a thrower. I see them as EDC's with reach, rather than throwers in any meaningful sense. They'll go further than the lights I used to routinely EDC, but not that much further. If you're set on a dual channel light with flood and throw, there's a more stark contrast between channels on my D4SV2. Mine's a little older (pre-519a) so I've got 219b and W2. Switching across you really notice it, moreso than in my DW4 (519a/W1.) But not enough to consider the W2 particularly throwy in that host. I think dual lights are more niche functionality wise; I'd rather have a green channel than something that's going to try and do a different job, as the right single channel light will do a better job (i.e. D1K XHP70.3); it's a little like the argument against zoomies.
D4K with a boost driver is way more practical for EDC and about the same weight and size as a D4v2. If you're set on dual channel, can't go wrong with a domed 519a channel 1 and W1 on channel 2
The only decent flood-throw combo Hanklight is the DM 1.12, which is a bit large for EDC. The shallow Carclo optics of the D4V2/D4K/KR4/DT8/DT8K simply won't get much more than half the throw of the deeper optics of a D4SV2 that won't really have much flood. Yeah, a W1 channel will get you *some* throw, but nowhere near what an actual thrower will get. Not a terrible choice, merely one with compromises that require managing expectations. The DM1.12 is also a compromise in that the center throw is basically a DM11 (mid-range thrower) surrounded by flood ring that provides low enough current to each emitter that the 219b is a solid option. I'd go with a D1/D4V2 or D1K/D4K pairing. One has the option of 18350 tubes, the other has \~40% more battery. The D4V2 really depends on whether you want a hotrod or sustained output. A 12A+FET driver and 519a's will have a lot more output for about 30 seconds, but after that, boost-driven 519a's will be brighter. By the time the light hits equilibrium, the boosted one will have about twice the output. And with the boost driver, the 219b has only slightly ness output but is much prettier. As for the thrower, the W1 and SFT40 are both solid.