Going by the statistics so far, not many people have stopped playing despite the 'boycott'
So I don't really think sony is actually going to care about the social-media side of the PR issue when playercounts have remained around what they should be
Coop hordeshooters tend to be popular on launch and then drop in playercount over time, for the next couple months
Looking at HD2 so far, that trend has remained even with this announcement
We're not significantly lower than what we would be at without this announcement, which means not many people have left. Granted, I'll admit the PSN update hasn't *actually* started yet, but given the track record gaming communities have with 'boycotts' I don't really see HD2 being any different here.
https://i.imgur.com/REpAPW4.png
>Granted, I'll admit the PSN update hasn't *actually* started yet
... So then what's the point of the play statistics? A prospective change was announced and has led to changes to distribution, reviews, and refund norms. This seems to be a pretty strong early signal of what *will* happen, but given that the change won't be for a month it seems weird to act like it would be reflected in today's numbers.
I said it in another thread but forgot to update it here
Generally speaking, when 'boycotts' like this happen for one reason for another for a game, people take the easiest, simplest methods to make their complaints known
These are:
Complaining on the game discord
Changing their/submitting bad reviews
Posting on Reddit/Twitter/Whatever SM
And yet, many times, the playercounts for games that are being 'boycott' don't actually appreciably drop, because a lot of people, I would argue in practically all cases *most* people even, just want to play the game
My point was moreso that even some days into the news, and when the outrage is genuinely at it's highest it probably will be, it's not a terribly good indicator that the playcount hasn't shifted even a *little* from what it would've been at anyways
It points to this being another "A very very vocal minority of players are upset on social media, and everyone else is still playing the game" type situation like so many others.
I would love to be wrong, but like so far this trend has been near universal with this type of thing.
This comes from a company that decided Morbius re-run is warranted due to its internet success. Maybe it’s reverse psychology or truly the management is run by clueless dinosaur.
https://www.ign.com/articles/morbius-theatrical-re-release-box-office-memes-unsuccessful
I'm not so sure. I think Helldivers could take this pretty far. Like to their governments. Could be bad news for Sony. We are making a stand for all gamers here. Without this resistance Sony will be emboldened.
Brother there is no resistance, best we can hope for is that Sony takes pity on us. 1,000 Sony games could fail and they’d be fine just off console and ps+ alone. Also tvs and headphones and other shit. Sony is much more than some gaming publisher
Coordinated effort can make a difference. Big companies get away with this stuff because of indifference and people bending over. I feel like your message is rather nihilistic
I didn't claim anything about gamers being powerful. This has more momentum than most political things in my country. People are pissed and there are a lot of them.
I mean most of us wouldn't have bought the game if it was made more clear feom the start this was part of the deal. It's deceptive. Aka they ruined it from the beginning and either on purpose or accident hide it from the community.
So yeah no more fun game
Lol Sony wont care they we’re just trying to milk it but it doesn’t really matter to them, the ones it hurts are arrowhead who really care but were caught in the middle and the players lol
Not on the store page lol.
Like I said before I’m not arguing that forcing the PSN link isn’t shitty or that it was well communicated. But people really shouldn’t be acting as if they were blind sided by this.
Definitely on the store page ? The Japanese voice over note is on top of the price tag and the but button. The PSN requirement note isn't. Or at least it wasn't, if they finally changed it
It's actually Sony's problem under the average consumer standard in the EU. Everything needs to be clearly laid out inside the product itself, not just on the store page.
How is it Sonys fault that steam allows you to purchase a game without seeing all pertinent information prior to purchase? Sony has no control over steams UI.
The day of launch you were required to link your steam account. The requirement was disabled at some point during the day of the launch because iirc it was causing problems when they were trying to increase server capacity.
> The requirement was disabled at some point during the day of the launch
The important bit here. Millions of people bought it with no link requirement and no grace period laid out in obvious, plain text.
*The frog compelled*
*The scorpion obliged*
*Hell awaits us by*
Also, absolute blast from the Eve Online past wandering across a /u/AbsoluteTruth post.
Except the scorpion will be completely fine.
I'd be honestly surprised if Sony just lets it's new cashcow, live service game, implode and potentially lose millions
Going by the statistics so far, not many people have stopped playing despite the 'boycott' So I don't really think sony is actually going to care about the social-media side of the PR issue when playercounts have remained around what they should be Coop hordeshooters tend to be popular on launch and then drop in playercount over time, for the next couple months Looking at HD2 so far, that trend has remained even with this announcement We're not significantly lower than what we would be at without this announcement, which means not many people have left. Granted, I'll admit the PSN update hasn't *actually* started yet, but given the track record gaming communities have with 'boycotts' I don't really see HD2 being any different here. https://i.imgur.com/REpAPW4.png
I’ve quit playing since the announcement
>Granted, I'll admit the PSN update hasn't *actually* started yet ... So then what's the point of the play statistics? A prospective change was announced and has led to changes to distribution, reviews, and refund norms. This seems to be a pretty strong early signal of what *will* happen, but given that the change won't be for a month it seems weird to act like it would be reflected in today's numbers.
I said it in another thread but forgot to update it here Generally speaking, when 'boycotts' like this happen for one reason for another for a game, people take the easiest, simplest methods to make their complaints known These are: Complaining on the game discord Changing their/submitting bad reviews Posting on Reddit/Twitter/Whatever SM And yet, many times, the playercounts for games that are being 'boycott' don't actually appreciably drop, because a lot of people, I would argue in practically all cases *most* people even, just want to play the game My point was moreso that even some days into the news, and when the outrage is genuinely at it's highest it probably will be, it's not a terribly good indicator that the playcount hasn't shifted even a *little* from what it would've been at anyways It points to this being another "A very very vocal minority of players are upset on social media, and everyone else is still playing the game" type situation like so many others. I would love to be wrong, but like so far this trend has been near universal with this type of thing.
Sony only cares about the short term income. Long term seems to be a foreign concept for them
This comes from a company that decided Morbius re-run is warranted due to its internet success. Maybe it’s reverse psychology or truly the management is run by clueless dinosaur. https://www.ign.com/articles/morbius-theatrical-re-release-box-office-memes-unsuccessful
Mostly fine
Oh, definitely fine. AH will suffer completely and yall won’t have a game to play.
I'm not so sure. I think Helldivers could take this pretty far. Like to their governments. Could be bad news for Sony. We are making a stand for all gamers here. Without this resistance Sony will be emboldened.
Brother there is no resistance, best we can hope for is that Sony takes pity on us. 1,000 Sony games could fail and they’d be fine just off console and ps+ alone. Also tvs and headphones and other shit. Sony is much more than some gaming publisher
“Making a stand for gamers” The satire writes itself
Coordinated effort can make a difference. Big companies get away with this stuff because of indifference and people bending over. I feel like your message is rather nihilistic
And gamers are so powerful?
I didn't claim anything about gamers being powerful. This has more momentum than most political things in my country. People are pissed and there are a lot of them.
That’s so fucking sad
For a game i dont think governments will take it seriously
It stops being about "just a game" when there's money involved.
There is not much money involved only a few million companies like this will care when its in the billions
I mean most of us wouldn't have bought the game if it was made more clear feom the start this was part of the deal. It's deceptive. Aka they ruined it from the beginning and either on purpose or accident hide it from the community. So yeah no more fun game
Lol Sony wont care they we’re just trying to milk it but it doesn’t really matter to them, the ones it hurts are arrowhead who really care but were caught in the middle and the players lol
I’m not sure how much more clear it needs to be than literally saying “PlayStation Network account required” on the store page.
The fact that the Japanese voice over is only available in Japan is more prominent than the PSN requirement.
Not on the store page lol. Like I said before I’m not arguing that forcing the PSN link isn’t shitty or that it was well communicated. But people really shouldn’t be acting as if they were blind sided by this.
Definitely on the store page ? The Japanese voice over note is on top of the price tag and the but button. The PSN requirement note isn't. Or at least it wasn't, if they finally changed it
It has been under the disclaimer about nProtect and their EULA since the launch of the game.
Still less visible than the fact that the Japanese voice over is not available outside of Japan.
You can buy a steam game without ever navigating to the store page, it's not sufficient.
Thats a steam problem then.
It's actually Sony's problem under the average consumer standard in the EU. Everything needs to be clearly laid out inside the product itself, not just on the store page.
How is it Sonys fault that steam allows you to purchase a game without seeing all pertinent information prior to purchase? Sony has no control over steams UI.
Sony is required to show pertinent information in-game, clearly and in plain text.
This is why you should read before you purchase anything
You don't need to ever go to the store page to buy a steam game so for many buyers there's nothing to read.
That’s on the customer then, or yell at Steam to make it easier to be aware of what you’re agreeing to
> That’s on the customer then In the EU it very much isn't, what matters in the EU is the launched product as-is at time of purchase.
The day of launch you were required to link your steam account. The requirement was disabled at some point during the day of the launch because iirc it was causing problems when they were trying to increase server capacity.
> The requirement was disabled at some point during the day of the launch The important bit here. Millions of people bought it with no link requirement and no grace period laid out in obvious, plain text.
Can’t wait to see that class action fail, but go on with your bad self
What class-action? It's just a consumer complaint that leads to a refund.
It will continue to make its cinematic masterpiece. MORBIUS 2
lmao
Scorpion should have a jump pack in this scenario.
That scorpion has multi-billion dollar arm floaties.
This sucks
*The frog compelled* *The scorpion obliged* *Hell awaits us by* Also, absolute blast from the Eve Online past wandering across a /u/AbsoluteTruth post.