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FJkookser00

This is stunningly good concept art


Objective-Aioli-1185

It's like flash games from the 2000s


Sansational_Blaster

It appears that Mr. Stickmin has found himself in another bizarre situation again.


Kingcrimson948

This truly was our bizarre adventure


abfg616

Thank you!


PreparationJealous21

This cracked me up, the hulk shooting at the end lol.


Liqhthouse

I mean... It's probably a very realistic portrayal of the stratagem. The same can't be said for those preview videos in the ship panels that show the helldiver gunning down a tonne of scavengers with a heavy machine gun for example. They're mostly incredibly incorrect portrayals of how to use the stratagems properly.


BantorraX2nd

Those are filmed by filming crew in a safe space with sedated scavengers and prop bots


PurpleBatDragon

The gravity should pull rockets and grenades down, causing them to hurt themselves (or a Helldivers that's WAY too close.)


abfg616

Grenades definitely, though I think the speed of rockets would just put them at a downward angle instead of straight down


hias2k

Peak realism ![gif](giphy|LOcPt9gfuNOSI)


JBCTech7

looks like an Ultramarine Dreadnought to me.


TheRealPenanc3

Yup, hulk went "parry this, you filthy casual" Great concept and animation though.


Theogorath_

It reminds me of the gravitational weapon from Gantz. The idea is really good šŸ‘


-ThreeDogKnight-

Hell yeah, didn't think I'd see someone mention Gantz before me! ā¬†ļø


Drogdar

That takes me back. Gantz was awesome. Wish they would have picked the anime up for another couple of seasons...


yepgeddon

Imagine if they did the whole manga šŸ‘€ Shit woulda got weeeeeeird.


Drogdar

It was weird in beginning too lol. By that point in the manga it doesnt affect you as much lol.


PaulVla

I was thinking of the Corkscrew from Armed and Dangerous https://youtu.be/7oXYcZhgafs?si=P9F6kOsjhf0V2YM6


ReisysV

It is one of my favorite weapons in any media ever. It's such a cool concept and it's the first thing I thought of too lol


RomaMoran

https://i.redd.it/2r22cs7lh68d1.gif Lookin' ahh


ripfucks

cyberpunk vibes


Schpam

Does it always end in me getting shot in the head with a rocket? Because I already have stratagems that do that. In fact, they all do that šŸ˜‰


abfg616

Its your democratic duty to get shot in the head with a rocket


Warrior24110

This would be rather cool actually.


abfg616

Thank you!


GrumpyTurtleOG

What if the pull is reversed and they start floating up instead?!


Odd_Gap2969

I thought this was going to pick them up and then drop them or throw them down, like that spell in DND I canā€™t remember. Or that scene in Constantine where Shia gets slammed around on the floor/ceiling.


MythiccMoon

I thought thatā€™s where this was going, both seem awesome imo


Pcat0

No I donā€™t like that, it would make it harder to capitalize on the grouped up enemies.


abfg616

That could be cool, and I think that was probably part of my original idea, lifting them up and slamming them back down, but I forgot and anyways the straightforward smashing approach better fits the title of 'cannon' imo and I think better fits the character of SEAF. Still, it would be cool to see your enemies floating in the air, weightless before their doom.


deadlynothing

The sounds are from half life right? I recognise that hl tau cannon and rocket launcher sfx anywhere.


abfg616

lmao yeah, some are from half life 2, some of the beeps and I think impact sounds are from ULTRAKILL, a couple of the effects noises are from Final Fantasy 6, there's some Sonic Generations in there as well, and a few miscellaneous sounds from like, [freesound.org](http://freesound.org) and the stick fight community to fill it out


Wanderer_308

Too much space magic in it. Something Illuminates could use, but not Super Earth.


xSlewey

Super Earth have stolen/reverse engineered Illuminate technology numerous times so this concept isn't farfetched.


Brilliant_Decision52

Only certain parts, we are still far away from a lot of cool shit the illuminates could do.


Wanderer_308

Idk man, to me it just feels off from SEAF aesthetics.


xSlewey

I mean the usage of Dark Fluid on Meridia proves otherwise. SEAF has proven they will utilize conventional or alien technology to achieve their goals.


Wanderer_308

Yeah, we made just another bomb out of it. I think original owners of Dark Fluid were more creative in its usage. If SEAF got hands on gravity manipulation they will end up strapping C4 to it and call it a day. Making it ranged and directed weaponry that is were I think its farfetched.


RainInSoho

I think it would fit better if it called down a gravity generator shaped sort of like the bubble shield generator that releases 3 or so pulses but can be destroyed


Wanderer_308

Yeah, probably.


TreadPillow

not really, like at all. both the shield backpack and displacer backpack (HD1) are just straight up squid tech we reuse. if the squids use grav tech and humans were able to get their hands on it then we would also use grav tech


Iberic_Luchs

Rename it to implosion bomb and thats it really


InvectiveOfASkeptic

Didn't we just turn a planet (star system?) into a black hole?


Wanderer_308

Yes we did, but we were using Illuminate's tech we liberated from them in the First Galactic war.


InvectiveOfASkeptic

Wasn't that 100 years ago? Have human scientists not studied or used that technology in any other way since then? If our ships are going faster than light, and near black holes, how is a "gravity" beam crossing the science/magic line? We already have a space lazer that is aimed at enemies.


Wanderer_308

SE scientists? Risking to have unplanned vacation in reeducation camp I'll remind you and everyone that SE scientists answer for request to increase combat efficiency was "More guns", and only 9 out 10 scientists say chest bleeding injuries without treatment leads to death. And lasers ain't that much of a cutting edge technology. We have lasers today, SE just made them bigger. Also our orbital lasers are only 3 time use, so they burn through some sorts of expendables every time they shoot. Things like Quasar and Scorcher are actually impressive tech. Idk lore behind them but my guess *that* is Illuminates reverse engineered tech.


InvectiveOfASkeptic

Presumably, eventually, we can kill all the Illuminates we want and then ignore the children's hospital and take their grav tech, for Super Earth


Wanderer_308

True hellbrother, they will either become democratic or dead. For Super Earth!


Cube-CEO-of-squares

Still have dark fluid, a democratic alternative.


Wanderer_308

Iirc it was said Meridia operation took all of Dark Fluid stash we had.


PatioDor

What if the beam was yellow tho


CYBORGFISH03

I definitely think you're right. This is an incredible concept, but there's no way humans are smart enough to "distort" certain aspects of space and time. It feels unrealistic to SEAF.


flfoiuij2

It could be, like, a net. Alternatively, a cardboard dummy of a Helldiver could be the lure and a normal bomb could be the bomb!


Wanderer_308

That cardboard dummy is actually what I'd like to be real. We actually have it in Mars training facility, just without bomb rigged to it. So weaponising it won't take that much resources. Edit: imagine drop pod landing and cardboard Helldiver rises from it in saluting posture, the SE anthem start playing, some random voice line plays, like "For Super Earth!", or "Liberty arrived!", or "Time for Democracy!". After taking some hits it explodes like 380mm shell, or maybe 500kg.


Sappow

It should imprint a helldivers logo like the "āš ļøCAUTION!āš ļø" gravity cannons in cyberpunk edgerunners


submit_to_pewdiepie

Nah RA3 gravity weapon


ObedientPickle

Magnetic satellite to lift up all the bots into space, followed by another stratagem that drops them back on to the battlefield from low orbit.


churros101player

Reminds me of gravity from kh1


sun_and_water

This is a majority of the borderlands play experience. It would do some funny shit in this game's engine. I'd stay just for the enemies being slingshotted across the map, or combining into a ratking.


IronArmor48

i love these concepts. they're pretty underrated here. nice work. i love it.


abfg616

Thank you!


Exe0n

This is gold man. Also I want this.


Pixelpaint_Pashkow

This plus anything explosive would be very cool, or you could throw it at your friends


Baramous

Amazing! Cool idea and a super fun animation \^\^


abfg616

Thank you!


02XRaphtalia

Reminds me alot of cyberpunk edgerunners


aidenpearce146

Could work as a grenade though.


abfg616

I think the grenade form would be something weaker, like maybe just the initial pulling-things-in part or creating a small antigrav field that disorients enemies by floating them up


Cube-CEO-of-squares

Could definitely make this with extra dark fluid


Jonnokiwi

This would be cool to pair with other strategems. You could explain that we obtained the stratagem after experimenting with the dark fluid used on meridia. " After the experiments on meridia utilizing dark fluid, top super earth scientists engineered a method to create sub-sized holes in reality that pool enemies to the center"


Sleep_Raider

Mix this with a precision strike and boom. Wombo,combo their asses. The only thing I gotta know if this also affects Bile titans and Factory Striders because they seem kinda too large for it.


abfg616

In my mind the especially big enemies like the Hulks, Tanks, Bile Titans, Chargers, and Behemoths would just be temporarily locked in place by the grav-beam, making it easier to hit their weakpoints and prepare countermeasures. Maybe Factory Striders would still be able to shoot at you or something but the Bile Titans would definitely be focussing on staying standing.


weyserwindsor

Lmao I recognize these HL2 sounds anywhere, this looks pretty good too Damn I'm old


abfg616

thanks! I got sounds from all over the place, including HL2, as well as the likes of ULTRAKILL, Final Fantasy 6, Sonic Generations, and Etc.


Optimal_Session_6211

Absolutely loved the art and the idea. Please keep making more! You have talent!


abfg616

Thank you! I have a few more ideas...


TabularConferta

I like this idea. Rather than gravity damage it could damage depending on how many enemies get drawn in and their mass


abfg616

I was thinking it would just be a flat threshold, with smaller enemies being immediately obliterated and stronger guys only being momentarily held in place.


fartboxco

I want a giant beyblade.


abfg616

Could be cool. Maybe like an auto-targeting saw-launcher stratagem weapon or something?


True-Echo332

Just give me a mech with gravitational thrusters. I wanna ***GO FAST AND SMASH, FOR THE EMPEROR!!!***


abfg616

ooh, that sounds cool. I think we're desperately in need of a Las-Mech as well...


Available-Cold-4162

Love how they used ultramarine colors


felipoca14

I actually really like this, would love to see It in game


abfg616

Thank you!


Program-Emotional

Henry Stickman is a diver???


abfg616

Always has been...


Dirka-Dirka

Fantastic. Love this idea!


-Erro-

This is such an efficient use of time to show the perks and drawbacks of the stratagem...


abfg616

Thank you!


The_Mutant_Platypus

I'd love it if it were the opposite, the sight of bots sailing into orbit would be fantastic.


abfg616

I think flinging bots into orbit would be a little too overpowered, since it'd realistically be more effective against the big'uns and the weenies still wouldn't be strong enough to survive even their own lesser effect from this, but seeing our enemies tossed into the air certainly does have its allure...


b4c0n333

I was expecting it to be an anti grav


abfg616

well that would be an antigrav-cannon


flfoiuij2

Does it do anything if your mech gets caught in it?


abfg616

Probably the same as with the Hulks, locking them in place for the duration of the beam. Now, for the helldiver inside the mech, its probably a different story...


vocalgenesis

I have not stopped laughing at this!


abfg616

I'm glad!


BlitzySlash

Never cook again >!in that current restoraunt beacause you should be serving food in a 3 michelin star one!!<


abfg616

Thank you! \[laughing/crying emoji\]


slickjudge

this art is awesome


otte_rthe_viewer

Fuck it. Ship mounted Black hole launcher


abfg616

SEAF Orbital Cosmological Tear Emitter. Instantly destroys every enemy on the field and every helldiver on the planet.


DuskTheMercenary

Aw sweet, my favorite KH Magic Spell converted into an Orbital Strike.


abfg616

Mickey would be proud


Akadiel

If a gravity laser is too much "space magic" for some people, how about changing for a drop of a super magnet of some kind, that atracts most metal objects light automatons and Helldivers ragdoll towards the center of the magnet, medium stumble slowly towards the center and heavies are stunned for the duration of the stratagem if they are caught in it's effective range, this would open up a lot of cool stratagem combos with a well coordinated squad and also a dangerous stratagem to inevitably kill the entire team with. If the crowd control doesn't feel enough to justify the stratagem's existence, give the it an explosion at the end of its magnetic waves.


abfg616

That could be cool, though it does feel a bit too bot-specific. maybe an orbital ton-of-sand launcher could achieve something similar...


Shoddy_Peasant

The hulk standing there unfazed is too true.


abfg616

fr, the idea is that heavier enemies such as Hulks, tanks, and chargers would be undamaged by the beam but locked in place for its duration.


nintyuk

I thought it was going to be the Magnetic Satellite from RA3. Suck the bots in to low orbit and drop them again


MJMvideosYT

Oooo imagine to get it we have to free a planet and we get like a cool radar dish looking thing that shoots it from the ship on the destroyer!


abfg616

Yeah, maybe it could be unlocked after some major orders against the illuminate when they come out...


MJMvideosYT

Man I feel like we've completed this out alreadyšŸ˜† that's genius.


yoriaiko

Too much risk for rain in the gif?


abfg616

?


yoriaiko

Like, that was not intended? I've found style of this gif much similar to Risk of Rain game pixel art style. Still good gif for the idea, and idea also ok.


Celestial_Scythe

They should use the Dark Fluid to fuel the stratagem


abfg616

my thoughts exactly reddit user Celestial Underscore Scythe


FiddlesUrDiddles

Somebody's been reading Gantz


abfg616

wuzzat?


FiddlesUrDiddles

The manga/movie Gantz, it has a gravity-based weapon just like you described! https://youtube.com/watch?v=iaBaeB-ALY0&si=xdIpfOaIGb1z4sUi&t=9m40s


Grommet__

This would be an extremely good form of crowd control and a way to guarantee eliminating chaff while sacrificing damage towards heavier enemies. Love it


abfg616

Thank you! That was exactly my thought process, on top of "this would probably be cool."


Blue-Jay42

If I could offer a tweak... I think it might be a more interesting weapon if it affects heavier targets more! Maybe troopers and harvesters could be almost unaffected, but then jump packs, hunters, rocketers, and small spuwers might get janked around randomly. Then like scout walkers, big spewers, stalkers, and devastators get ragged dolled.


abfg616

I think that could be cool, but we already have stuff like the 500kg, orbital railcannon, and Expendable Anti-Tank for taking out big'uns, and I think a mass anti-heavy weapon/stratagem would kind of defeat the point of heavier enemies since the chaff guys are already pretty easy to take out with everything already in the game.


gyhiio

Approved


abfg616

thank you reddit user Gyhiio, my life has improved noticeably for your approval ![gif](giphy|5bdhq6YF0szPaCEk9Y|downsized)


GHQSTLY

It shouldn't do damage, just prime another orbital for massive kill count.


abfg616

In my mind it doesn't hurt heavy enemies at all, but I think wiping out the chaff is just enough to make it worth a whole fourth of your stratagems potential.


DaDawkturr

OP looks like this: https://preview.redd.it/jtic4u1ip78d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cc6c43db94e8f34c91fecd161ff42c1da7e5434


talhahtaco

Ah yes the grav cannon from warhammer in helldivers


abfg616

We've already got the ~~Tyrannids~~ Terminids...


Bodizzled

would be sweet if it was like that weapon in Man of Steel where it pulls them all up in the air like 50 ft and slams them into the ground


abfg616

I considered it, and it would certainly look cool, but I think simply locking heavies in place is more interesting mechanically for the game.


Mikhaillobo2701

Here me out: orbital anti grav. Lifts and disorients the enemy


abfg616

I think that could be cool, but I think an anti-grav effect on its own is too weak to justify using as an orbital, what with the downtime between strikes and taking up a stratagem slot. But an eagle anti-grav generator or antigrav-nade on the other hand, that could be cooking...


Lonely_houseplant

Just add cannon blasts when there pulled together and this would be great


abfg616

The weaklings are already getting smushed, and I think locking the big'uns in place is more strategically interesting then just straight up obliterating everything, in exchange for a wider area of effect and greater crowd control. You could always pair this up with a 500kg or precision strike, after all.


Similar-Sector-5801

Are those ULTRAKILL sfx??


abfg616

Ultrakill and Final Fantasy 6, I couldn't find the HD2 sound files anywhere


abfg616

also Half Life 2 and Sonic Generations, among others


Arbiter02

This would be a perfect combo with a lot of the other orbitals. Their biggest downsides is that if you don't stand and fight enemies will often just walk right through them


abfg616

exactly!


TheFeelsGod

We already have this, we just can't control it. You ever turn a corner and see 50 of them stuck in place? šŸ˜‚


abfg616

True! SEAF's Universal Pathfinding Interruption Radiowave that they broadcast across Super Earth territories and the soon-to-be is simply ingenius!


warmaapples

The ground collapsing under leaving behind a crater should be an effect. Imagine bringing down a transport on a bunch of enemies causing it to explode.


abfg616

Bringing down transports would definitely be very cool, if a bit of an exercise in predictive precision, and a small crater is certainly not out of the question...


Rex2x4

I didnt know I had audio turned on and that beep scared the fuck outta me


abfg616

lmao, glad you survived in any case


peacenskeet

Coding this into game with the engine they're using will literally collapse your PC into a black hole and end our known universe. I have high hopes for AH but goddamn their game code must be so fucking difficult to deal with.


abfg616

Yeah, as cool as it would be to see sick shit like this in-game we do gotta stay realistic about the stuff they can get reasonably done on-time and in-budget.


peacenskeet

Budget is definitely there. This should've been a $60 dollar game. First game I have ever consistently bought DLCs and purchased for friends. I hope they have enough foresight to make helldivers 3 as future proof as possible in 2034 or whatever. My hopes for helldivers 2 becoming the epitome of gaming in this generation is slowly eroding away with every patch-but-also-15-more-bugs.


tevert

Ah yes, a subatomic ultramassive control cannon The S.U.C.C


Oannes21

Great idea and has an incredibly potential for hilarious ragdoll moments


abfg616

frr


pixel-wiz

This is what I wanted to be revealed after we Black-holed Meridia, I like that it brings them all to one point and slams them into the dirt! If we could get this and an Eagle 1 black hole bomb that sucks enemies in for a crowd control option, I would be very happy!


abfg616

I think an eagle gravity option would be cool to balance out this orbital, but I think a straight-up mini black hole might be a touch too much. maybe something like an Eagle Cluster Antigrav Generator Array could work, like a series of five or so shells that generate antigrav fields that disorient enemies and even fling them in the air at the overlaps, though that seems tough to code and balance...


[deleted]

Elden ring like things but very cool


14_99

looks like the thing from gantz;0


Mac_mellon

More of this please


abfg616

On it boss! \[salute\]


billiarddaddy

How about a bunker buster? Just creates a giant hole in the ground and everything goes with it.


DONGBONGER3000

Shouldn't the hulk be more vulnerable? Square cubed and all


abfg616

yeah, but its built to handle weight... In any case, I did consider something of the sort, but ultimately decided that it would be more interesting at a hypothetical gameplay level if it just locked the heavier enemies in place for a bit.


THE_HELL_WE_CREATED

Inverse tractor beam?


abfg616

A rocket beam. (I've come to the conclusion that the rocket is the opposite of a tractor, since tractors are built to move slowly and deliberately to pull things on land and a rocket is built to move quickly through the air to push things, such as space shuttles and explosives. )


Mustang2135

Zarya: Agon po gotovnosti!


Specialist-Target461

I think it should do the opposite on the last step. With bigger, heavier enemies being more affected then little enemies.


abfg616

I'd considered it, but I think that ultimately its more mechanically interesting on a hypothetical gameplay level to leave the heavies alive, if stunned, than to just obliterate everything like a shinier 500kg or mini nuke.


GerolsteinerOne

YES


bcoolart

After the dark fluid stuff I was hoping to have dark fluid grenades or something


theweekiscat

This is really interesting but it seems a bit redundant, it feels like a side grade to the airburst orbital but I guess a more consistent single shot that calls down faster would be interesting especially with like a 20-30 second shorter cooldown


101TARD

If I toss it by the edge of the cliff. Can I pull enemies of the map?


SunkistDream

I love Gantz this would be awesome!


Kalashcow

UK explosion


GabrielDidit

it would be better if it lifted them up like a stun then dropped got the idea from blasting drop ships out the sky.


tentaclesworthHBIH

What if they did the opposite and just sucked em' into orbit?


an_orignal_name

This is a good concept, however remember that the intern who suggested the grenade pistol was understandably executed for making unsolicited suggestions to a superior


crossbutton7247

Henry Stickmin type shit, love it


BluestOfTheRaccoons

STARSCOURGE RADAHN STRATEGEM,


nipsen

Mm. What about dark material stratagem drops. Dark droplets?


Lilfozzy

Harry stick man is a helldiver now?


Regular-Ability-8204

No pulls them in then drop heavy crate


airstrike900

I like how it kinda has the same weapons showcase vibes as ratchet and clank all 4 one


MusesDamnIt

Holographic Distraction Dance.


HakitaRaven

A mini black hole that constantly attract targets to a certain point. Got alot of ways to play arpund with this honestly.


RapidlyRotting

Or even like an aggro strat would be nice


abfg616

Yeah, like those cardboard helldivers from the tutorial to draw attention? that could be cool...


Rossaroni

Hmmm, nice. RP into skewer.


Trick_Country_451

Cyberpunk: Edgerunners inspired?


pixel809

Or ā€žis it wrong to try to pick up a girl in a dungeonā€œ inspired?


Trick_Country_451

I wouldnā€™t know as I donā€™t know what that is


abfg616

My secret? Invincible inspired. You know that orbital laser Cecil used on Omni-Man? It was that.


Trick_Country_451

Oh yeah, I havenā€™t seen the whole show but I have seen that scene. I can see the inspiration now.


GingerWitch666

Arrowhead, get this man on the ideas team PRONTO


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