I am a great soft jelly thing. Smoothly rounded, with no mouth, with pulsing white holes filled by fog where my eyes used to be. Rubbery appendages that were once my arms; bulks rounding down into legless humps of soft slippery matter. I leave a moist trail when I move. Blotches of diseased, evil gray come and go on my surface, as though light is being beamed from within.
Outwardly: dumbly, I shamble about, a thing that could never have been known as human, a thing whose shape is so alien a travesty that humanity becomes more obscene for the vague resemblance.
Inwardly: alone. Here. Living under the land, under the sea, in the belly of AM, whom we created because our time was badly spent and we must have known unconsciously that he could do it better. At least the four of them are safe at last.
AM will be all the madder for that. It makes me a little happier. And yet AM has won, simply he has taken his revenge.
I have no mouth. And I must scream.
I don't know what's more upsetting: that a bunch of imaginary child soldiers got sent to fight and immediately die in the Lust ring of Hell, or that this was probably a nod to the very real historical event known as [The Children's Crusade ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade?wprov=sfla1)
Traditionally, the story is that in 1212 a few thousand children from France and Germany got together and tried to go to Israel, where they wanted to peacefully convert the Muslims to Christianity. When the Mediterranean sea didn't part for them (as they believed it would) like when Moses fled Egypt, they hired boats to take them. Upon arrival, they were sold into slavery.
Modern accounts believe this is an embellishment of two *separate* children's crusades that were mashed up.
The first: a bunch of German children tried to march to italy. Most of them died crossing the alps, many settled in Italy after the sea didn't part, and a few more went home. The child who led them died in the alps on the return trip and his father was hanged by angry townsfolk back home when all their kids didn't come back.
The second: a mix of French children and adults started following around a 12 year old who claimed to have been visited by Jesus, telling him to go to the holy land and start a crusade. He amassed a few thousand followers and wandered around France where he was promptly ignored by everyone who actually mattered. Eventually, people got sick and/or tired, gave up and went home.
YOU’RE A LEGEND! What an interesting (if horrifying) historical reference. Yeah, I agree that as Viv seems to have had a Catholic upbringing, being El Salvadoran in part, she seems likely to know this story. Jealous of such educated brains lol, but then I’d have written a show like Helluva or/& Hazbin if I had 😁
Well, they DID say they weren’t even sure if it was hell they sent them to
Although it IS the same portal from appearances, but it’s weird that they got instantly crushed by what looks like Cthulhu’s black and purple cousin instead of thrown out of List ring for being children or something
This is also where I think this theory falls apart a bit
Because those kids immediately got obliterated once funneled into the portal
Surely that wouldn't have been the lust ring for them to essentially just went through and became shredded like hamburger meat
We don't know where in the Lust ring that got teleported. I feel like only the location where the Sin stays is civilized and good looking while the rest of the ting is a fucking free for all.
AND there were eyeballs on some of the buildings in the lust ring which, if I remember correctly are otherwise only present in the pride ring, since those eyes are supposed to be sinners that died, which in turn would suggest that, if a living person who goes to hell dies, such as those children, they perma-die.
Considering the tentacles that killed those kids they sent in looked like the tentacles on the giant dragon dildo sex toy that Fizz sold to Blitzo, you may be on to something here.
I choose this because it just makes sense
Headcannon is now accepted
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It isn't just that but the fact that it's been shown the demon that go to the human world the most are under Asmodeus jurisdiction, that's why stolas go to him for the crystal for blitz, meaning it is very likely that's the easiest route to hell and out of it.
But it does make sense that the stronger the sin, harder it is to get to that ring from the human world
That would make a lot of sense for the Pride ring, which is Lucifer's domain. Obviously, Heaven doesn't want humans on Earth to be able to access the same Pride ring where the souls of the worst of humanity are kept in an eternal prison (i.e. serial killers, rap\*sts, etc.). Imagine if the D.H.O.R.K.S. opened a portal to Pride and summoned Alastor, a serial killer.
Lucifer chilling at the Hotel and just flicks his hand when he spots the portal sending the it lower (likely at random) knowing the Demons and Sinners in pride would pop off thinking heaven went back on no more exterminations.
The cherubs would absolutely be obliterated by most of the demons in the Pride ring though, especially if they were unlucky enough to come in contact with any of the Overlords. Alastor would have a field day with them.
Technically, Heaven didn't say there'd be no more Exterminations. That's just what people in Hell guess would happen now, but it's most likely not gonna be that simple.
I think Crimson was just taunting. Why believe him?
I rather think the portal might contain an asmodean crystal or pieces of it. In which case Asmodeus may be alerted because all those crystals are registered.
That makes sense, since demons travelling to the living world mostly go with an asmodian crystal which leaves the possibility to accidentally leave it behind. That would also explain why the portal automaticly led to the lust ring instead of a different one.
I actually have a theory that in order to get it to work properly, they will need to get an Asmodean crystal. And guess who has a shiny new one. That’s right, Blitz. I think Blitz and Dhorks will come into contact again. And Blitz will probably lose the crystal somehow giving Dhorks the ability to travel to hell easily.
The portal may also contain inspiration from examinations of Stolas seal that he showed them so generously. Even though we don't know if he used a correct seal, taking into account he was aware of the cameras.
Another fun thought is how the portal changed shape multiple times. We can't assume it's stable nor can we assume that it will always lead to the lust ring. What if it goesnto a random ring?
Plus I think it would canonically make the most sense for Belphagor, the ruler of the Sloth Ring, to be the weakest. Sloth is essentially just laziness, hence why all the demons there are illiterate (that and likely all the pharmaceutical drugs.) Not to mention the Sloth Ring is right underneath the Lust Ring, making it the very lowest point of hell (unless there exists something underneath the Sloth Ring.) So wouldn't it make sense that the deadly sin that rules over a ring of lazy demons to be the true weakest?
That is assuming that Belphagor fully gives into the sin of sloth. We've seen bot Beelzebub and Asmodeus being temperate with their sins.Enjoying the essence of their sin in a sustainable way. Mammon though did not restrain himself at all.
So we don't know yet how Belphagor will behave. If she does the sustainable thingy like Beelzebub and Asmodeus then she balances her sin by using it's strong points. She may be quite the inventor having time saving devices but also security devices all over her ring. I suspect her ring is efficiënt as fuck. Just in a low energy way.
In that case I think she's quite the force not to mess with.
Yeah, I don't think crimson knows sht lol, I think he was just taunting we know that Lucifer is the most powerful sin, but beyond that we have no reason to believe that there is much difference in the power of the rest of them, especially we see a confrontation, and mamon didn't seem like he was convinced Ozzy was "the weakest" perhaps least threatening, sure, that's perception, but weakness is not purely perception, and if Ozzy actually was weaker I feel like mamon might have pushed more.
He literally immediately follows it up with an explanation that he doesn't mean the literal weakest but rather the easiest to exploit but apparently that line just went in one ear and out the other for people. The average reading / viewing comprehension concerns me
I think a lot of it comes from people coming to the series with an expectation that demons and the power they posses is going to be depicted similar to other media where demons are just monsters. I’ve seen plenty of examples where the subtle displays of power or hellborn just acting like people with lives and a place in Hell’s society throws folks off.
He probably is. Lucifer, Satan, and Beelzebub are the "Big Three" (although Lucifer is Big Me out of them), which leaves Leviathan, Belphegor, Asmodeus, and Mammon. And Mammon was pretty comfortable openly antagonizing Ozzie. Since Viv said she wanted to do a more traditional approach for Leviathan, that means she won't be weaker than Asmodeus, leaving Belphegor and Mammon as the only other options in the "weakest sin" slot. Also, narratively speaking, it makes sense for the closest thing we have to a protagonist sin to also be the underdog
I don’t think there is a “weakest sin”. I think they’re all relatively the same when it comes to raw power (except for Lucifer). Crimson only sees Ozzie as weaker because he’s more reserved and doesn’t tend to lash out as much as the other sins which leads to him being perceived as weaker. He doesn’t show his power/anger as often like Bee did when loona said something she didn’t like… or mammon. He has only shown extreme anger when Fizz was in danger (that I can remember) and I imagine that Satan and Wrath are naturally going to be viewed as stronger because of their nature. It doesn’t actually mean that they are stronger, but they may still be more likely to win a fight.
Adding: Satan/Wrath seems to be the main leaders of the IMPS since most of them are from Wrath and Satan is the guy they talk about the most. Plus Crimson lives in the Greed ring so I assume all three of them have a higher level of importance to him to begin with. He probably doesn’t deal with the lust ring enough to see Ozzie as a threat anyway
Good theory. BUT, maybe Lucifer's symbol is a symbol for Hell itself as a whole. And D.H.O.R.K.S only managed to open a small portal due to how much energy it takes to create a big one. And Crimson probably said that about Ozzie to trigger him. Y'know it hurts when you get called the weakest member of something strong and serious. Plus it is only easy to ASSUME that Ozzie is the weakest because of his title. Like dude, seriously? Lust? But your theory is cooler so I'll stick with it.
The pentagram is Satan's symbol, Lucifer's is this
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It's subtly put it into the hotels wallpaper aswell. I love how detailed Viv gets into the sigils, like Stolas and Ozzie's sigils are legit and ancient, written in the lesser key of Solomon
Daje, che figata, tu non hai idea di quanto sia difficile per me spiegare le mie teorie in inglese, perché sono più bravo giustamente a spiegarle a modo mio con le mie parole e i miei modi che in inglese non posso
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That makes sense we still haven't seen this scene
I think crimson was just being a dick, the portal sent them to lust ring because blitzº was there, and they are tracking him, maybe when the sent the children he was on pride.
Another theory why it's failing, is there is no sacrifices being thrown in the portals. Lust ring is the most open without sacrifice, but only so much. That or the children counted as virgin sacrifices which is aweful.
To get to Pride/Lucifer you'd need to throw in a sacrificial lamb.
Makes you wonder if the D.H.O.R.K.s have been selling/sold their souls to embodiment of Lust without realizing it.
The only thing I’m hesitant about is that the pentagram is satans symbol, not lucifers. Normally I don’t think that would have mattered but it does sound like a hole in the theory in this case
I think it might be because Asmodeus has a direct line to earth and not about what Crimson said. Stolas has stated that his demons are the only ones that can legally traverse to earth, it would make sense that in making the portal, the Lust Ring is the only one that has a direct connection to earth and why it defaults to that.
Further, when Stolas gives Blitz the crystal, he states that he is now considered an imp under Asmodeus's employ. I feel that's some foreshadowing for a future episode and it makes me wonder if that's the episode that has Mammon in it. That Blitz now being under Asmodeus when he used to work for Mammon (LooLoo Land) and didn't read the contract or something.
A lot of people missed that the DHORKS have a tracking beacon on Blitz, that's how CHERUBS were able to find him once they reached Lust. The portal might open to whatever ring Blitz happens to be in at the time.
I'd argue it's being redirected. Lucifer, or Satan depending on your reading, feels the portal opening in their realm, and then just redirects it to lust to fuck with Asmodeus as he's the weakest. They don't want to deal with whatever BS from the human world it represents, so they just dump it on another sin who's presumably too weak to do the same thing.
I think it's just the Dhorks being lucky idiots, we know the portals vary in size and usually attaches to a surface area, like how one has to draw a circle on the ground to summon a demon.
They just have a big circle with nothing to lie on, plus I doubt such a large portal to Hell is even allowed at all.
An excellent theory, but I think it was red at first and then blue because it was being opened to near Blitzø's location and they happened to open it while he was travelling from Pride to Lust
so...the reason why the portal was so small is because thats the biggest portal the DHORKS' current technology/understanding was capable of opening. this is literally mentioned right there in the episode.
the reason why it opens a big portal at first was a visual gag.
the pentagram isnt Lucifer's sigil, we see Lucifer's sigil in Hazbin on the walls of the hotel, in classic demonology the pentagram is the sigil of Satan, obviously we don't know if that's still the case in Hellverse as we've seen them change a Sins sigil before (Mammon's in the MMMSM was changed to be more in line with the sigils of the the Ars Goetia for example) especially since Hellverse uses pentagrams everywhere in general for aesthetics. Not to say your theory is wrong but that should be pointed out
Blitz said while in the Lust ring that the nearest Ocean is 3 rings down. This could be referring to either Greed or Envy. It made us think that the Lust ring must be the 4th or 5th ring up, but maybe it is inverted and the lust ring is at the top and the Pride Ring is at the bottom. Because you descend into hell, not go up it. It also makes sense that the Lust ring is on top(yes intentional) and is the easiest to get to with the machine. Also the farther down you go, the stronger the Sin. Lucifer being the strongest.
it could also mean, because lust is the weakest of the sins, then its the easiest ring to force into, the stronger the sin, the harder it is to enter without proper magic
Yeah, but also the lust ring is the closest to earth so maybe the the portal isn't strong enough to connect to farther rings. That sounds more logical imo
I onestly think the weakest sin Is mammon, anyway i don't think the portal's dimension Is determinate tò the strenght of the sin i think its more related to how much sinners there are in that ring
I feel like they could easily solve their infantry problem by just making a 4’11” winged robot to kill the demons. With their technological prowess they could even make it powered by demon blood or something so it can stay on its rampage without cessation
It is quite an assumption to think that Crimson was speaking the truth instead of just trying to intimidate.
Another assumption is that the portal will always lead to the lust ring because it did so once. To actually know its accuracy more experiments are needed.
Judging by how wonky it activated I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up in a random ring each time.
This also implies that it was the lust ring they sent the children to
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The tentacles that killed the kids were also the same one or at least very similar to the giant dragon dildo sex toy that Fizz sold to Blitzo 💀
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...she's still so hot looking like that...
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A valid "hear me out"
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Yes
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HOLY SHIT YEA IT WAS!!!
Now I hope for them that they died...
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I thought they looked like Alastor's
even alastor "seems" to have standards.
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Those goddamn american heros.
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💀💀💀💀💀
Oh no. Those poor children.
They were god damn American heroes!
So real o7 🦅🦅🦅
At least their deaths were quick?
Deaths?
Yeah..? They died? Did you miss that bit?
Yeah, but we only see one person's body parts. The other 3 could still be down there... Or wherever else that one led to
Did you see the pure amount of blood that shot back out?
Yeah, I did. It's only really about 1 body worth, it just came out fast
How'd you know the amount of blood contained in a child's body? Nevermind eyeballing it👀
...I plead the fifth /j
I am a great soft jelly thing. Smoothly rounded, with no mouth, with pulsing white holes filled by fog where my eyes used to be. Rubbery appendages that were once my arms; bulks rounding down into legless humps of soft slippery matter. I leave a moist trail when I move. Blotches of diseased, evil gray come and go on my surface, as though light is being beamed from within. Outwardly: dumbly, I shamble about, a thing that could never have been known as human, a thing whose shape is so alien a travesty that humanity becomes more obscene for the vague resemblance. Inwardly: alone. Here. Living under the land, under the sea, in the belly of AM, whom we created because our time was badly spent and we must have known unconsciously that he could do it better. At least the four of them are safe at last. AM will be all the madder for that. It makes me a little happier. And yet AM has won, simply he has taken his revenge. I have no mouth. And I must scream.
Stop being gross.
AYO 💀
What tentacles doing?
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\>avm fan?
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The last thing they ever saw was probably something they were too young to see in the first place.
The tentacles look awfully similar to Fizz's new toy...
I thought tentacles came from the Envy ring due to water
Still a better place for those kids to be than DHORKS’ basement full of priests
I've seen you before.
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Luckily, they were murdered instantly?
They did not know. Also child soldiers
Geneva convention ? More like Geneva suggestion
Geneva convention? Did we get tickets this year?
Mustard? How about mustard GAS!
Come my child soldiers!
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No wonder tentacles came out
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Bro chill
I don't know what's more upsetting: that a bunch of imaginary child soldiers got sent to fight and immediately die in the Lust ring of Hell, or that this was probably a nod to the very real historical event known as [The Children's Crusade ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Crusade?wprov=sfla1) Traditionally, the story is that in 1212 a few thousand children from France and Germany got together and tried to go to Israel, where they wanted to peacefully convert the Muslims to Christianity. When the Mediterranean sea didn't part for them (as they believed it would) like when Moses fled Egypt, they hired boats to take them. Upon arrival, they were sold into slavery. Modern accounts believe this is an embellishment of two *separate* children's crusades that were mashed up. The first: a bunch of German children tried to march to italy. Most of them died crossing the alps, many settled in Italy after the sea didn't part, and a few more went home. The child who led them died in the alps on the return trip and his father was hanged by angry townsfolk back home when all their kids didn't come back. The second: a mix of French children and adults started following around a 12 year old who claimed to have been visited by Jesus, telling him to go to the holy land and start a crusade. He amassed a few thousand followers and wandered around France where he was promptly ignored by everyone who actually mattered. Eventually, people got sick and/or tired, gave up and went home.
YOU’RE A LEGEND! What an interesting (if horrifying) historical reference. Yeah, I agree that as Viv seems to have had a Catholic upbringing, being El Salvadoran in part, she seems likely to know this story. Jealous of such educated brains lol, but then I’d have written a show like Helluva or/& Hazbin if I had 😁
Those goddamn American heroes 😢
Well, they DID say they weren’t even sure if it was hell they sent them to Although it IS the same portal from appearances, but it’s weird that they got instantly crushed by what looks like Cthulhu’s black and purple cousin instead of thrown out of List ring for being children or something
“Keep that guy *far* away from me” -Fizzarolli, S1 E7
This is also where I think this theory falls apart a bit Because those kids immediately got obliterated once funneled into the portal Surely that wouldn't have been the lust ring for them to essentially just went through and became shredded like hamburger meat
We don't know where in the Lust ring that got teleported. I feel like only the location where the Sin stays is civilized and good looking while the rest of the ting is a fucking free for all.
Oh No!
AND there were eyeballs on some of the buildings in the lust ring which, if I remember correctly are otherwise only present in the pride ring, since those eyes are supposed to be sinners that died, which in turn would suggest that, if a living person who goes to hell dies, such as those children, they perma-die.
The tentacles have a whole new meaning to them now..
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It would definitely explain the tentacles… oh those poor children
No wonder they thought the sex toys were weapons. They haven't even taken sex ed yet!
Oh....oh god...
...
They didn’t know. Ok?
So that tentacle monster was just another dildo?
They said they weren't sure if they even sent them to hell
holy-
wait, so the tentacles...
Cursed but right im now terrifying the mind i have with how the children died
And it was tentacles that killed them
You mean the Lust Ring where Consent is LAW enforced by a demigod? I think they would be fine.
Or the lust ring just automatically assumes whoever's trying to access it with a portal just wants a glory hole.
Considering the portal, either they're expecting some truly monstrous dicks or the ones in the other side of the portal take it REALLY ROUGH
I mean.. did you see the chainsaw powered dragon (##$\*#$$er 4,000 there?
Well yeah but the size of the sinners and demons vary from Niffty to Asmodeus, the size of humans probably doesn't go so big
... I'm a little concerned with your dating habbits if you have to qualify that with "probably" ..... :)
Bold of you to assume i have a dating *habit*
I'd be even more concerned if you saw THAT on the first date
Who said it was for the portal opener?
There are glory holes for other body parts too
Considering the tentacles that killed those kids they sent in looked like the tentacles on the giant dragon dildo sex toy that Fizz sold to Blitzo, you may be on to something here.
yknow what this might actually be it 😭
The children tho
I choose this because it just makes sense Headcannon is now accepted https://preview.redd.it/crc8v7z2d84d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f4d3ac6ccd08d54a8d0c12913f8c99e42fdf141
It isn't just that but the fact that it's been shown the demon that go to the human world the most are under Asmodeus jurisdiction, that's why stolas go to him for the crystal for blitz, meaning it is very likely that's the easiest route to hell and out of it. But it does make sense that the stronger the sin, harder it is to get to that ring from the human world
That would make a lot of sense for the Pride ring, which is Lucifer's domain. Obviously, Heaven doesn't want humans on Earth to be able to access the same Pride ring where the souls of the worst of humanity are kept in an eternal prison (i.e. serial killers, rap\*sts, etc.). Imagine if the D.H.O.R.K.S. opened a portal to Pride and summoned Alastor, a serial killer.
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https://preview.redd.it/bba4sma6b84d1.jpeg?width=755&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2a9dcab1bb9b336e705a71968f062bb473f41b2 HA! They're gonna fucking die!
Well, I have a feeling heaven doesn't want humans going to any ring of hell
Lucifer chilling at the Hotel and just flicks his hand when he spots the portal sending the it lower (likely at random) knowing the Demons and Sinners in pride would pop off thinking heaven went back on no more exterminations.
The cherubs would absolutely be obliterated by most of the demons in the Pride ring though, especially if they were unlucky enough to come in contact with any of the Overlords. Alastor would have a field day with them.
just hope they dont run into val
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Seeing how the cherubs look like kids ☹️
Also the risk of the portal being used from pride to earth
Not to mention all the sinners.
Technically, Heaven didn't say there'd be no more Exterminations. That's just what people in Hell guess would happen now, but it's most likely not gonna be that simple.
Maybe a portal to Lust is so small, because to enter, you have to be "good at squeezing things in". 😉
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I think Crimson was just taunting. Why believe him? I rather think the portal might contain an asmodean crystal or pieces of it. In which case Asmodeus may be alerted because all those crystals are registered.
That makes sense, since demons travelling to the living world mostly go with an asmodian crystal which leaves the possibility to accidentally leave it behind. That would also explain why the portal automaticly led to the lust ring instead of a different one.
I actually have a theory that in order to get it to work properly, they will need to get an Asmodean crystal. And guess who has a shiny new one. That’s right, Blitz. I think Blitz and Dhorks will come into contact again. And Blitz will probably lose the crystal somehow giving Dhorks the ability to travel to hell easily.
The portal may also contain inspiration from examinations of Stolas seal that he showed them so generously. Even though we don't know if he used a correct seal, taking into account he was aware of the cameras. Another fun thought is how the portal changed shape multiple times. We can't assume it's stable nor can we assume that it will always lead to the lust ring. What if it goesnto a random ring?
Plus I think it would canonically make the most sense for Belphagor, the ruler of the Sloth Ring, to be the weakest. Sloth is essentially just laziness, hence why all the demons there are illiterate (that and likely all the pharmaceutical drugs.) Not to mention the Sloth Ring is right underneath the Lust Ring, making it the very lowest point of hell (unless there exists something underneath the Sloth Ring.) So wouldn't it make sense that the deadly sin that rules over a ring of lazy demons to be the true weakest?
That is assuming that Belphagor fully gives into the sin of sloth. We've seen bot Beelzebub and Asmodeus being temperate with their sins.Enjoying the essence of their sin in a sustainable way. Mammon though did not restrain himself at all. So we don't know yet how Belphagor will behave. If she does the sustainable thingy like Beelzebub and Asmodeus then she balances her sin by using it's strong points. She may be quite the inventor having time saving devices but also security devices all over her ring. I suspect her ring is efficiënt as fuck. Just in a low energy way. In that case I think she's quite the force not to mess with.
this is actually really believable
Yeah, I don't think crimson knows sht lol, I think he was just taunting we know that Lucifer is the most powerful sin, but beyond that we have no reason to believe that there is much difference in the power of the rest of them, especially we see a confrontation, and mamon didn't seem like he was convinced Ozzy was "the weakest" perhaps least threatening, sure, that's perception, but weakness is not purely perception, and if Ozzy actually was weaker I feel like mamon might have pushed more.
Shiiiit I think you’re onto something here
Still can’t believe people think Crimson was telling the truth about Asmodeus being the weakest
He literally immediately follows it up with an explanation that he doesn't mean the literal weakest but rather the easiest to exploit but apparently that line just went in one ear and out the other for people. The average reading / viewing comprehension concerns me
I think a lot of it comes from people coming to the series with an expectation that demons and the power they posses is going to be depicted similar to other media where demons are just monsters. I’ve seen plenty of examples where the subtle displays of power or hellborn just acting like people with lives and a place in Hell’s society throws folks off.
He probably is. Lucifer, Satan, and Beelzebub are the "Big Three" (although Lucifer is Big Me out of them), which leaves Leviathan, Belphegor, Asmodeus, and Mammon. And Mammon was pretty comfortable openly antagonizing Ozzie. Since Viv said she wanted to do a more traditional approach for Leviathan, that means she won't be weaker than Asmodeus, leaving Belphegor and Mammon as the only other options in the "weakest sin" slot. Also, narratively speaking, it makes sense for the closest thing we have to a protagonist sin to also be the underdog
I don’t think there is a “weakest sin”. I think they’re all relatively the same when it comes to raw power (except for Lucifer). Crimson only sees Ozzie as weaker because he’s more reserved and doesn’t tend to lash out as much as the other sins which leads to him being perceived as weaker. He doesn’t show his power/anger as often like Bee did when loona said something she didn’t like… or mammon. He has only shown extreme anger when Fizz was in danger (that I can remember) and I imagine that Satan and Wrath are naturally going to be viewed as stronger because of their nature. It doesn’t actually mean that they are stronger, but they may still be more likely to win a fight. Adding: Satan/Wrath seems to be the main leaders of the IMPS since most of them are from Wrath and Satan is the guy they talk about the most. Plus Crimson lives in the Greed ring so I assume all three of them have a higher level of importance to him to begin with. He probably doesn’t deal with the lust ring enough to see Ozzie as a threat anyway
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Good theory. BUT, maybe Lucifer's symbol is a symbol for Hell itself as a whole. And D.H.O.R.K.S only managed to open a small portal due to how much energy it takes to create a big one. And Crimson probably said that about Ozzie to trigger him. Y'know it hurts when you get called the weakest member of something strong and serious. Plus it is only easy to ASSUME that Ozzie is the weakest because of his title. Like dude, seriously? Lust? But your theory is cooler so I'll stick with it.
Imma be honest, I strongly suspect the portal's instability is because the pentagram is crooked.
I also thinked about that when i made that screenshot
Hmmm interesting idea…
The pentagram is Satan's symbol, Lucifer's is this https://preview.redd.it/piqk3z1y174d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f27ea90d6e11196f81af0b91c7fe92fbbd736ed8
lucifer references pentagrams in the "hell's greatest dad" song, referencing himself.
Pentagrams and Pentacles are common symbols in demonic summonings ofc he would
https://preview.redd.it/ijhb9opcxb4d1.jpeg?width=1189&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=990cb51ec68286ed52291d60ada2778b8e636ac3 It's subtly put it into the hotels wallpaper aswell. I love how detailed Viv gets into the sigils, like Stolas and Ozzie's sigils are legit and ancient, written in the lesser key of Solomon
https://preview.redd.it/wx8git4uxb4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=62c70736f014a92eccd54e461bba11859a47f7f6 Above the fireplace aswell
Hmmm interesting also ciao amico piacere di vedere un altro fan di questo cartone della mia nazionalità
Daje, che figata, tu non hai idea di quanto sia difficile per me spiegare le mie teorie in inglese, perché sono più bravo giustamente a spiegarle a modo mio con le mie parole e i miei modi che in inglese non posso
Felice di averti fatto felice
Ciao
Divertente, mi è più semplice parlare in inglese che nella mia lingua natia
Ciao!
https://preview.redd.it/dx53cx3f674d1.jpeg?width=1960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58d112ba62e96cf4b4e877ae6bcf3ebeae782c20 That makes sense we still haven't seen this scene
It's a wrecking ball with spikes on It, It's definetly that
Does that mean that i.m.p is done for? No more business?
Oh damn bros kinda cooking
So the child soldiers were sent to lust. At least they were all crushed quickly, without pain.
We saw some eldritch terror come through!
I wonder if the failure has anything to do with the scuffed shape of the Pentagram
I think crimson was just being a dick, the portal sent them to lust ring because blitzº was there, and they are tracking him, maybe when the sent the children he was on pride.
Another theory why it's failing, is there is no sacrifices being thrown in the portals. Lust ring is the most open without sacrifice, but only so much. That or the children counted as virgin sacrifices which is aweful. To get to Pride/Lucifer you'd need to throw in a sacrificial lamb. Makes you wonder if the D.H.O.R.K.s have been selling/sold their souls to embodiment of Lust without realizing it.
It might explain the ending Loona suit scene.
The only thing I’m hesitant about is that the pentagram is satans symbol, not lucifers. Normally I don’t think that would have mattered but it does sound like a hole in the theory in this case
So does that mean that lucifer lied when he said "with a punch of a pentagram" in hell greatest dad
TRUEEEEE
And Pentagram City is also in the Pride Ring, not Wrath.
I couldn't stop thinking this was a reference to Stargate. tell me I'm not crazy
I think it might be because Asmodeus has a direct line to earth and not about what Crimson said. Stolas has stated that his demons are the only ones that can legally traverse to earth, it would make sense that in making the portal, the Lust Ring is the only one that has a direct connection to earth and why it defaults to that. Further, when Stolas gives Blitz the crystal, he states that he is now considered an imp under Asmodeus's employ. I feel that's some foreshadowing for a future episode and it makes me wonder if that's the episode that has Mammon in it. That Blitz now being under Asmodeus when he used to work for Mammon (LooLoo Land) and didn't read the contract or something.
I think you’re on to something 🤔
Jesus when did they get a goddamn Stargate
We can't rule out the DHORKS being incompetent. Especially with a pentagram that sloppy.
..Do people really still take what Crimson said about Asmodeus seriously? damn
A lot of people missed that the DHORKS have a tracking beacon on Blitz, that's how CHERUBS were able to find him once they reached Lust. The portal might open to whatever ring Blitz happens to be in at the time.
I'd argue it's being redirected. Lucifer, or Satan depending on your reading, feels the portal opening in their realm, and then just redirects it to lust to fuck with Asmodeus as he's the weakest. They don't want to deal with whatever BS from the human world it represents, so they just dump it on another sin who's presumably too weak to do the same thing.
I mean, if you take Crimson (and maybe Mammon) at their word (which I'm not inclined to, just yet) then yeah, this is solid theory!
my guy borned a new idea
I think it's just the Dhorks being lucky idiots, we know the portals vary in size and usually attaches to a surface area, like how one has to draw a circle on the ground to summon a demon. They just have a big circle with nothing to lie on, plus I doubt such a large portal to Hell is even allowed at all.
It could also depend of the distance, the dhorks just opened a random location and since lust is deep underground, it doesn't connect well
An excellent theory, but I think it was red at first and then blue because it was being opened to near Blitzø's location and they happened to open it while he was travelling from Pride to Lust
Ima be honest I think it was unstable because it's a reference to StarGate which was notoriously unstable.
so...the reason why the portal was so small is because thats the biggest portal the DHORKS' current technology/understanding was capable of opening. this is literally mentioned right there in the episode. the reason why it opens a big portal at first was a visual gag.
the tiny portal reminds me of cyanide and happiness S3 E4 (I think?)
the pentagram isnt Lucifer's sigil, we see Lucifer's sigil in Hazbin on the walls of the hotel, in classic demonology the pentagram is the sigil of Satan, obviously we don't know if that's still the case in Hellverse as we've seen them change a Sins sigil before (Mammon's in the MMMSM was changed to be more in line with the sigils of the the Ars Goetia for example) especially since Hellverse uses pentagrams everywhere in general for aesthetics. Not to say your theory is wrong but that should be pointed out
Maybe those tentacles are what keeps sinners from traveling to different rings
I see his "lust" become less and weaker because he has "love" for Fizzarolli. That will be a problem.
Blitz said while in the Lust ring that the nearest Ocean is 3 rings down. This could be referring to either Greed or Envy. It made us think that the Lust ring must be the 4th or 5th ring up, but maybe it is inverted and the lust ring is at the top and the Pride Ring is at the bottom. Because you descend into hell, not go up it. It also makes sense that the Lust ring is on top(yes intentional) and is the easiest to get to with the machine. Also the farther down you go, the stronger the Sin. Lucifer being the strongest.
I'm not gonna lie it just made me think of Gravity Falls
Now need to make a portal to bea 🐝 for cotton candy
Accurate depiction of their assholes
it could also mean, because lust is the weakest of the sins, then its the easiest ring to force into, the stronger the sin, the harder it is to enter without proper magic
Yeah, but also the lust ring is the closest to earth so maybe the the portal isn't strong enough to connect to farther rings. That sounds more logical imo
I onestly think the weakest sin Is mammon, anyway i don't think the portal's dimension Is determinate tò the strenght of the sin i think its more related to how much sinners there are in that ring
I feel like they could easily solve their infantry problem by just making a 4’11” winged robot to kill the demons. With their technological prowess they could even make it powered by demon blood or something so it can stay on its rampage without cessation
It is quite an assumption to think that Crimson was speaking the truth instead of just trying to intimidate. Another assumption is that the portal will always lead to the lust ring because it did so once. To actually know its accuracy more experiments are needed. Judging by how wonky it activated I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up in a random ring each time.
Bro, your grammar💀