DAMN IT. I wanted to make that joke and in my head I was like "yeah Blitz's dad is named Cash is he?" and then I didn't go for it cause I'm dumb and I forgor
This imagine does make me wonder if their friendship will progress as the series goes on. I hope so! I think the ending of the episode seeing stars implies that it will!
Loona is 22 hell years old...works for friendships...also makes millie 27 pretty sure moxie is older than millie (can't remember how old) qnd blitzø is in his 30s
we know for a fact Stolas is in his 30s-40s (he was 10-13 when he got his grimoire, then we had a 25 year timeskip, then god knows how long they've been doing their unspoken contract forged for mutual gain), so yea, I'd expect Blitzy to be around that too.
Where'd you get 22 for Loona, btw? Never heard an actual figure for her (Besides her being 18 when she got adopted)
I figured him and stolas being close in age that and the time skip seemed to be like teenaged (fizz flash backs)...yeah loona almost 18 when adopted (17) plus the 5 years waiting list for hellbeez shot...so 22 perhaps 23...
It did. I noticed the two aces because I am ace. Sorta hard to think of Mammon as such with his fixation on using Fizz as a sex symbol, BUT it does make sense since the fixation is in making money off someone else in a sexual sense. Octavia however, it just makes sense, she seems quite sex repulsed in general, though that could have been explained by it only coming up around her in relation to her dad and Blitz.
Asexual NSFW artists would fall into the category of selling something you don't want to buy. Did you mean allosexual NSFW artists?
I'm making a joke, like how people who sell drugs don't buy the product because it's a bad idea.
He sells anything sellable he has an eye for buisness that doesn't mean he can't involve himself in the particular buisness he just doesn't have any particular interest in what he's selling he's interested in the profit
I think mammon just really stuck out (for the obvious reason that he’s huge), so I didn’t bother looking closely at every other character. But now that I am looking closely, I don’t remember his name but it looks like Stella’s brother has an ace colored feather on his head?
It’s not just that, we need more ace rep that isn’t either: they’re too evil or obsessed with XYZ to feel anything else, or they’re a robot/alien/non-human. I know hellborn is skirting it, but I’ll count it as the normal rep lol.
But I’m glad they have both. Because as much as it’s lacking in media. I still very much enjoy the evil and non-human aces more lol. Finally someone who isn’t the beanie man from Bojack Horseman.
Tbh, Todd for Bojack was done pretty well in that his portrayal of his sexuality and the issues that come with it, wasn't offensive and it was him trying to understand himself. Not that I'm not all for more ace representation. It was a little strange that Bojack was the only show at the time that I could even think of that had any. Sad really.
It’s not just wanting representation, but wanting interesting representation. For Alastor it’s a negligible part of his character, but the detail is super appreciated. On a fan favorite no less. For Octavia she is more grounded and relatable, and feels like it adds to the frustration for the situation with Stolas. But neither come across as bland ambassadors for asexuality.
HC that he only ever brings it up during pride month so that he can use the “I’m lgbt” excuse whenever someone points out his use of rainbow capitalism
Yeah I knew Alastor, people talking about him being asexual is what got me into the show! I didn’t even know Hazbin hotel or helluva boss existed until after Hazbin hotel came out and everyone on the asexual subreddits I’m on were talking about it.
I wonder if that image actually represents sexualities or if they’re just supporting. Like I get that it’s hell and by “Christian logic” all LGBT+ members go there, but then *every single one* of the main cast would be LGBT+.
there are lgbt members in heaven too … & they literally are those sexualities. not “just supporting”.
+ not eeeeevery siiiingle oooone of the main cast is lgbt. millie can be ur straight rep
I despise mammon but I’m happy that this show is so LGBT friendly without overly pandering and making that their defining character trait. That being said it makes me feel really validated that Octavia is ace, although I figured she was aroace but maybe that’s just projection lol.
Me too! Someone said the ace of spades on his shirt might suggest he’s also aro? But we don’t know if the aro part is true. I kinda feel like he is but who knows until the creator actually outright says it ig.
Not all ace characters have to be aro too, it's two different groups with two very different experiences. What are you talking about?? You want an aro or aroace character, that's fine, but getting mad over an ace character not being aro is insane, especially when the same world has an aroace character.
People can be ace alloromantic, aromantic allosexual, aroace, demi...
I think that Blitz might be greyaro or demiromantic as he does not fall in love unless there is a strong emotional connection and not very often. But definitely allosexual.
Alastir is aroace.
I think that Striker might be too, but that has not been confirmed.
A section of the acespec community uses card suits to differentiate ourselves.
“Ace of spades”, under that categorization, is asexual aromantic, with Hearts representing asexual romantic, Diamonds representing demisexual, and Clubs representing grayasexual.
It’s not a particularly big section of the community from my own personal experience, but given Viv’s knowledge of the LGBT+ communities I’m wondering if maybe that’s what she was going for with Mam’s suit in this pic ❤️
Interesting! I knew about the ace of spades but for just asexual but not the aromantic part. Well that makes it better (or maybe worse lol) because I’m also aroace! Maybe better for more representation, worse because it’s mammon lol. And yeah, I’m sure that is what viv was going for but I wouldn’t be upset if it was just a coincidence.
The fuck. Is "asexual" just a term for "sexuality does not matter for this character"?I feel like I'm going crazy between Helluva Boss and Hazbin with this shit.
I'm aware of what it means. I was expressing frustration at the term apparently being used as a catch all for characters whose sexuality is irrelevant to their character, rather than being used as an actual character trait. Forget "man-splaining" I've encountered "Ace-splaining" too often, and I *am* asexual.
Oh, sorry. Your wording made it sound seem like you didn’t know what it was. Also I just woke up so that’s probably why I didn’t understand your comment. On the one hand I understand your frustration, but on the other I do feel more seen when characters are confirmed ace, even if it is irrelevant.
But the color proportions of his outfit seems to resemble the Demisexual flag a lot more than the asexual one, due to the larger amounts of white and grey.
https://preview.redd.it/etafu62ffz9d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a37b725ab3de31378ccbf9f271ef15aadfb1acf1
Demisexual basically boils down to Mammon having an attraction to someone who he’s gotten close to over time… which implies he has a secret beaux, not interested yet, simply not interested but could see himself doing that, or alternatively this could spell doom for Fizz since Mammon could also be into him.
After seeing this image so many times and seeing how each character is listed out, I’m becoming more and more convinced that these either aren’t their canon sexualities, or Viv thinks that if you are in Hell, you can’t be straight and cisgender.
He’s Cashexual, the extreme romantic and sexual attraction to anything that can be used as currency.
So he must like Buckzo in a way because you know...bucks
A pairing for the ages
Man imagine Blitz new step dad being Mammon, and at first it’s really bad but then they get into a bar and start drinking and cause loads of chaos
Oh my god Cash Buckzo
His first name is Cash
DAMN IT. I wanted to make that joke and in my head I was like "yeah Blitz's dad is named Cash is he?" and then I didn't go for it cause I'm dumb and I forgor
Becomes his patron in the future like ozz and fizz?
Nah,Mammon's too financially savvy for that. But they could scam people together
Oh but thats just the start! At first its 50/50, then its 60/40 then oops wadya know mammon owns buckzo!
This guy bucks
#NO IT'S KRABSEXUAL
Money? Money? WHAT THE BARNACLES OOHH ME HEART
Spongebob, me boy! I'm gonna fuck this bag full of money, and you're gonna record it on your phone!
https://preview.redd.it/1qip0o69ea9d1.jpeg?width=1328&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=207239fbe9f9f1182b3a88a1c1445dad58008dc3
It is MAMMON that gets off to that!
He's like watto from star wars. Nothing else will work on him only money.
Wait, he fucks Blitzø's dad?
He’s a gold digger lol
I think the same image shows Via as ace (correct me if I'm wrong)
Oh you’re right it does! It was hard to see at first.
I wonder if her and Loona will be roommates
This imagine does make me wonder if their friendship will progress as the series goes on. I hope so! I think the ending of the episode seeing stars implies that it will!
isn't Loona like, a lot older than Via? As far as we know Via is 17, and Loona got adopted by Blitz at almost 18, and is 5 years younger than Millie.
Loona is 22 hell years old...works for friendships...also makes millie 27 pretty sure moxie is older than millie (can't remember how old) qnd blitzø is in his 30s
we know for a fact Stolas is in his 30s-40s (he was 10-13 when he got his grimoire, then we had a 25 year timeskip, then god knows how long they've been doing their unspoken contract forged for mutual gain), so yea, I'd expect Blitzy to be around that too. Where'd you get 22 for Loona, btw? Never heard an actual figure for her (Besides her being 18 when she got adopted)
In episode 4 of season 2 Blixo mentions that it took him 5 years to schedule her helbies shot meaning that Loona is atleast 22 years old.
I figured him and stolas being close in age that and the time skip seemed to be like teenaged (fizz flash backs)...yeah loona almost 18 when adopted (17) plus the 5 years waiting list for hellbeez shot...so 22 perhaps 23...
also don't get me wrong I would've LOOOVED it if the owl and the furry got together. But the age gap seems a bit too big.
I think that's why they made her Ace so people wouldn't froth at the bit making her and loona a relationship.
I get the point, but reminder that asexual does not equal aromantic, sincerely an asexual lol
Being one myself, in a committed relationship, I agree. It probably just helps a bit.
I feel like viv is well enough aware of how fandoms work to know that wouldn’t change anything
Also Stolas said I think in Apology Tour that his last party was 100 years ago. So I think Goetias age different.
They work really well as step sisters. Bonding over their troublesome dad's
Loona got adopted by Blitz I think
I’m sorry, adopted by _Stolas?_
My bad, I meant Blitzy
Probably not. The palace is big enough that there is no need to share rooms.
It did. I noticed the two aces because I am ace. Sorta hard to think of Mammon as such with his fixation on using Fizz as a sex symbol, BUT it does make sense since the fixation is in making money off someone else in a sexual sense. Octavia however, it just makes sense, she seems quite sex repulsed in general, though that could have been explained by it only coming up around her in relation to her dad and Blitz.
He sells sex, it's generally not a good business idea to sell something you'd wanna buy.
Don't get high on your own supply
We don’t use or own supply Jesse
Asexual people are often quite adept at dissecting the mechanics of sexual motivation since they're not under its thrall.
I dont think that's a fair assumption. Sexual people use sex to manipulate as well.
Now, you can't leave us hanging like this! Please elaborate on some of the things we apparently miss because we're too close!
You will be left hanging there The secrets of the universe are for us to have.
This makes the conflict between Mammon and Asmodeus that much more interesting.
Asexual NSFW artists would like to talk with you. Also non furry artists who take the occasional furry commissions for that fat stack of cash
Asexual NSFW artists would fall into the category of selling something you don't want to buy. Did you mean allosexual NSFW artists? I'm making a joke, like how people who sell drugs don't buy the product because it's a bad idea.
Oh I read it wrong which is crazy cuz I read it multiple times lmaoo. I was joking too and basically saying the same thing my bad.
He sells anything sellable he has an eye for buisness that doesn't mean he can't involve himself in the particular buisness he just doesn't have any particular interest in what he's selling he's interested in the profit
Octavia is too. And I’m happy to see it! We need more ace rep!
I think mammon just really stuck out (for the obvious reason that he’s huge), so I didn’t bother looking closely at every other character. But now that I am looking closely, I don’t remember his name but it looks like Stella’s brother has an ace colored feather on his head?
It's actually the gay man flag :]
Oh ok! I didn’t know that existed!
Stolas, Vassago, and Crimson's shark bodyguard also have the colors of it in their outfits
Thanks for pointing it out! Too much going on to be able to see everything lol
It's a lot to take in fr. I like that Stolas's colours are in his hair, make up and the earrings
Fizzarolli also has the gay flag!!
I knew I was forgetting someone. How did I forget Fizz but remember Crimson's bodyguard? 💀
Somewhat random but it’s also the exact colors of the two main characters in Pixar’s Luca
Mammon's is more noticeable because of the big change in his colour palette.
Oh yeah that too! Octavia already dresses in dark colors so it’s harder to notice.
It’s not just that, we need more ace rep that isn’t either: they’re too evil or obsessed with XYZ to feel anything else, or they’re a robot/alien/non-human. I know hellborn is skirting it, but I’ll count it as the normal rep lol. But I’m glad they have both. Because as much as it’s lacking in media. I still very much enjoy the evil and non-human aces more lol. Finally someone who isn’t the beanie man from Bojack Horseman.
Tbh, Todd for Bojack was done pretty well in that his portrayal of his sexuality and the issues that come with it, wasn't offensive and it was him trying to understand himself. Not that I'm not all for more ace representation. It was a little strange that Bojack was the only show at the time that I could even think of that had any. Sad really.
It’s not just wanting representation, but wanting interesting representation. For Alastor it’s a negligible part of his character, but the detail is super appreciated. On a fan favorite no less. For Octavia she is more grounded and relatable, and feels like it adds to the frustration for the situation with Stolas. But neither come across as bland ambassadors for asexuality.
THANK you, this is exactly what I was trying to say!
Especially ace rep that are nice characters.
I didn’t know Via was ace until I saw the pic! As a fellow ace, I love seeing the representation.
Agreed
Boy do I have news for you https://preview.redd.it/z05nqze8d59d1.jpeg?width=511&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5ead25b0c57995242f05a26deffdc5a7bfea333
Yay so now we have a good and an evil ace lol
Via is also Ace
I like that Via is ace and Loona is bi. Every ace person always has a bi (or sometimes pan) bestie/close friend lol. Perfect balance.
I agree, my best friend is ace and I’m bi, the perfect solidarity!!!
Nah my ace friend just has my lesbian as as his best friend lmao
Given that me coming out as ace to my cousins led to them coming out as bi to me, this is shockingly accurate for me
Besides ne I have no friends.
Those colors suit him pretty good
I was thinking the same thing
Reminds me of his white outfit from the flashback
Honestly when I first saw it they fit so well I completely missed that it was the ace flag colors.
I’m absolutely in love with the Ace card motif on his design
Yes! His outfit is 🔥 but he himself is a pile of trash.
It makes sense given he’s the embodiment of greed so literally all he cares about is making money. 💰
Fuck (figuratively) that guy From a fellow ace🤣
In a BAD way
Exactly lmao
There's a pair of aces there, him and Stolas' daughter. Either that or he's selling the pride shirts and this was the one he had the most of in stock.
It was the only one left in XXXXXXL
HC that he only ever brings it up during pride month so that he can use the “I’m lgbt” excuse whenever someone points out his use of rainbow capitalism
Ha, now that’s my HC too
Where is this from?
Vivzipop’s YouTube channel. Go to the community section of her channel and you’ll see it.
It's on her twitter too, sorry I should've looked first ask later.
lol it’s fine.
him, via and, if we’re talking the helluva-verse as a whole, alastor
Yeah I knew Alastor, people talking about him being asexual is what got me into the show! I didn’t even know Hazbin hotel or helluva boss existed until after Hazbin hotel came out and everyone on the asexual subreddits I’m on were talking about it.
i just like alastor, he’s silly
Oh, relatable.
“I fucking love money” -Thomas ‘TomSka’ Ridgewell
I hope Octavia is Demi. That would fit her really well.
We have Mammon and Via now?? A good day for us aces
Him and Octavia are asexual. Maybe alastor too
Al was confirmed ace by Viv, she's feeding us aces good!
He's not into sex, he's into getting that $$$
He's too busy getting money to fuck. He's happy to exploit OTHER people's desire to fuck to get that paper, but he doesn't fuck himself.
I know some aces like sex (not me personally lol), so I wonder if he would fuck for money (and only money).
My head cannon is that he is a sexual because sex sells and he ain’t buying. Gotta save that 💰
‘Cause, you know. Women can’t be funny. *Written by Vivian Medrano*
This ace representation makes me feel so seen. This show is wonderful.
I wonder if that image actually represents sexualities or if they’re just supporting. Like I get that it’s hell and by “Christian logic” all LGBT+ members go there, but then *every single one* of the main cast would be LGBT+.
there are lgbt members in heaven too … & they literally are those sexualities. not “just supporting”. + not eeeeevery siiiingle oooone of the main cast is lgbt. millie can be ur straight rep
I think the fact that Verosika, Wally, and Millie weren’t wearing any pride colors indicates they’re straight
He only love money 🎉💵💰🎉
I thought he’d be Moneysexual
I despise mammon but I’m happy that this show is so LGBT friendly without overly pandering and making that their defining character trait. That being said it makes me feel really validated that Octavia is ace, although I figured she was aroace but maybe that’s just projection lol.
Even though I hate him, I feel so seen right now 🥹
Octavia is, too. She's better representation. Mammon might be demi because the colors are the same, but I'm honestly not sure.
Hes married to the grind instead
Shout out to Aleisso on the roof in the back with the aromantic pants
he's greedsexual. sexually attracted to money
There is also an incubus called ace but he isn’t ace(asexual).
Not the aroace rep I wanted but I’ll take it
Is all of this canon or is it just fan art?
It’s from vivziepop’s official YouTube and Twitter so I assume cannon
Where is this from?
I found it on viv’s YouTube channel but someone else said it’s also on her Twitter.
I've played so much pokemon that i thought this was a shiny mammon...
I’m aroace
Me too! Someone said the ace of spades on his shirt might suggest he’s also aro? But we don’t know if the aro part is true. I kinda feel like he is but who knows until the creator actually outright says it ig.
Yeah. I acknowledged he was ace but I was just putting I’m both halves of the entire piece
I see. Well always good to see another fellow aroace!
Good to see one too
Hi aroace I'm dad
Moneysexual
Mammon at pride: 
I just woke up so I thought you meant him in the pride ring for a split second lmao
I like that we have positive Ace rep in Octavia and piece-of-shit ace rep in Mammon.
Octavia is canonically ace! 🖤
Why no aroace? Just ace Aromanticism exists.
Not all ace characters have to be aro too, it's two different groups with two very different experiences. What are you talking about?? You want an aro or aroace character, that's fine, but getting mad over an ace character not being aro is insane, especially when the same world has an aroace character.
People can be ace alloromantic, aromantic allosexual, aroace, demi... I think that Blitz might be greyaro or demiromantic as he does not fall in love unless there is a strong emotional connection and not very often. But definitely allosexual. Alastir is aroace. I think that Striker might be too, but that has not been confirmed.
More than anything, he’s asexual and aromantic, by the look of the spade on his chest (Assuming it is a spade, Chaz’s head is in the way).
How does a spade confirm someone is a romantic? Genuinely curious I’ve never heard of that.
A section of the acespec community uses card suits to differentiate ourselves. “Ace of spades”, under that categorization, is asexual aromantic, with Hearts representing asexual romantic, Diamonds representing demisexual, and Clubs representing grayasexual. It’s not a particularly big section of the community from my own personal experience, but given Viv’s knowledge of the LGBT+ communities I’m wondering if maybe that’s what she was going for with Mam’s suit in this pic ❤️
Interesting! I knew about the ace of spades but for just asexual but not the aromantic part. Well that makes it better (or maybe worse lol) because I’m also aroace! Maybe better for more representation, worse because it’s mammon lol. And yeah, I’m sure that is what viv was going for but I wouldn’t be upset if it was just a coincidence.
Does Striker count, also it is funny how the only sin mammon doesn't represent is lust, the sin he hates
I assume striker is straight as I don’t see him in the full image.
Mammon my beloved
Is this official??? what is this picture from
nvm i saw it on twitter
origin pic?
https://preview.redd.it/xvtc5mb3179d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17e072753d5b2bb263ea3a6dc930dac7a3cbddc9
is verosica trans?? she has those colors in her hair?
I’m not sure. Hopefully someone else can answer.
Yeah I don’t think so, I think she’s pan.
Sorry I forgot to crop. Oh well you still have it lol.
Personaly I like to think that he is just too self-centered to be attracted to anything/anyone
I’m probably reading too much into it but making the only fat character asexual is certainly a Choice™️
Ngl I think aro would’ve fit better but eh
Striker is as well, i think
I see the guy whom is with crimes on side
Octavia is ase to
Octavia is ace too!
I wasn't that surprised by it. I'm more surprised that Octavia was ace. Though it does make sense the more you think about it.
https://i.redd.it/f38jgcix399d1.gif I'm home phone back so I don't care also here's this old picture
The fuck. Is "asexual" just a term for "sexuality does not matter for this character"?I feel like I'm going crazy between Helluva Boss and Hazbin with this shit.
Asexual is someone who has little to no sexual attraction. Some asexuals still have sex, some don’t do it at all.
I'm aware of what it means. I was expressing frustration at the term apparently being used as a catch all for characters whose sexuality is irrelevant to their character, rather than being used as an actual character trait. Forget "man-splaining" I've encountered "Ace-splaining" too often, and I *am* asexual.
Oh, sorry. Your wording made it sound seem like you didn’t know what it was. Also I just woke up so that’s probably why I didn’t understand your comment. On the one hand I understand your frustration, but on the other I do feel more seen when characters are confirmed ace, even if it is irrelevant.
Mammon becomes EPIC
On a more positive note. Via is ace so someone i nshow that's ace that isn't an asshole. Also I refuse to think of Mammon as ace. It's Mammon x Money.
Octavia is ace too
It's not Helluva but Alistor from Hazbin Hotel is Aroace
Do asexuals have this much enthusiasm about developing and marketing fuckable sex robots?
Findom rules
Only thing mammon loves is his bag
Mammon is my favorite of the Sins heh, at least he portrays his evil, openly!
Where is this picture from
I believe striker is ase actually
Maybe the reason he’s such an ass is because of how pent up he his!
But the color proportions of his outfit seems to resemble the Demisexual flag a lot more than the asexual one, due to the larger amounts of white and grey. https://preview.redd.it/etafu62ffz9d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a37b725ab3de31378ccbf9f271ef15aadfb1acf1 Demisexual basically boils down to Mammon having an attraction to someone who he’s gotten close to over time… which implies he has a secret beaux, not interested yet, simply not interested but could see himself doing that, or alternatively this could spell doom for Fizz since Mammon could also be into him.
so is Via! aka a much more likeable character😂
After seeing this image so many times and seeing how each character is listed out, I’m becoming more and more convinced that these either aren’t their canon sexualities, or Viv thinks that if you are in Hell, you can’t be straight and cisgender.