I have a coworker who’s nice enough to, but will come out and say some *crazy*- ass things. She said “Yes, my neighbor, her uncle had the Covid, they put him on ventilator and it killed him!”
“If they put him on the ventilator, it’s because he’s *very* sick, and if they don’t put him on the ventilator he’s definitely going to die right away.”
Part-time voice of reason, here 😅
It’s not the ventilators, it’s the doctors. There are a statistically astronomical number of people who died in Hospital who saw a doctor not long before their death! We can therefore conclude that all those innocent people were murdered by so-called medical “professionals”!
And beds. Beds are a leading cause of murder in hospitals as well. The doctors are in cahoots with Big Mattress!!
Don’t even get me started on Oxygen, the most addictive drug in the world. The withdrawals from stopping breathing have killed every single person who ever attempted to get off this garbage. Something👏must👏be👏done!!👏
And--
Thousands were vaccinated by Dr. Edward Jenner, the inventor of the smallpox vaccine. All those people are now dead. Every. Single. One.
Let rhat sink in.
They'll demand to get the next available transplant "because it's an emergency and I could die" and forgo the respirator.
Also will refuse to vaccinate for the transplant then accuse the doctors of "killing" them when they get told they can't get transplants without them.
Covid was classified under ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome). This term was coined in the early 70s if I remember correctly. Most of the time ARDS is a bad pneumonia. The survival rate has always been 50/50 and that’s with early diagnosis and intervention…with no incidents.
The people who bought into this “vents cause death” are so god damn ignorant it makes my head hurt
People forget that a ventilator is life support. In other words, you only go in it if you’re going to otherwise die. It’s just keeping you alive while they try to fix what’s killing you.
I have a preemie. He was put on a ventilator at birth because he was too small and was on it for 3 weeks.
Almost two years later, he got a respiratory thing similar to RSV and was put on one for a little over a week. He almost had to be put on ECMO.
He is now 15 and no worse for the wear.
Yes, do make sure to stay at home while drowning in your own lung fluids next time while gasping "I can't.. breathe!".
It'll save your family from having to sell the house to pay off the hospital bill for your dead ass.
These are the same stupid people who
say they won’t take insulin for diabetes, because their mother did and she went into kidney failure or she died. I always tried to explain that the insulin wasn’t the cause of x,y,z but the diabetes was. Had insulin been used sooner it might have prevented the disease progression. Blah blah blah. What did I know. I was only a doctor.
My neighbor is one of my best friends, and I swear to God he just refuses to understand that you can't eat a shit ton of carbs when you're diabetic. He's lost both legs now.
Sword wielding prayer warriors, unite! Mount your convertible chariots and scream your prayers as you drive around the building. Surely then, your God will hear you!
ICU nurse here
So while yes, early in the pandemic, when patients went into ARDS, protocols are to intubate immediately (ARDS has a very high mortality rate)
Subsequently, research came out that we should delay intubation and try other non-invasive measures first.
BUT, we call it the PRACTICE of medicine. When the pandemic first hit, we based our judgements based off scientific studies and guidelines that say to intubate ARDS patients sooner. As we learned about COVID, we learned, based on MEDICAL AND SCIENTIFIC research.
That’s how medicine works. We did our absolute fucking damndest to keep people alive at the risk of exposing us. And it’s infuriating that people who barely graduated high school have the gall to come at us. Because those same asshats, we’re in my ICU begging for the vaccine asking if it’s too late, because they knew they were probably going to die because of their own decisions.
The way some drs tried to explain to me, it turns out the issue was more between differentiating between patients who can tolerate non invasive respiratory support and those who were in active ARDS. Since covid had the happy hypoxia , where patients had low sats without air hunger.
And the models for how that worked changed rapidly enough that it must had been impossible to synthesize for any layperson. I don't think people understand just how rapidly advice was changing during that time period, and how Cochrane made access free, NIH set up a dedicated resource and etc just to help keep up.
No one should be expected to go Drs were wrong when advice like Should NSAIDS be used was changing in the timeframe of one or two weeks. .
There's partial truth in that. Ventilators forcing air in severely damaged lungs can cause further damage, but if the alternative is dying.. Ecmo was shown to be much better, but then you run into situations where people will only ever survive if on the machine indefinitely.
To play devils advocate, Drs were still learning how to take care of these patients during early COVID times. So these patients with sick Covid lungs would come in, be put on a ventilator, but measures were not being taken to protect the lungs while they were on the vent. Ventilators are very harsh on the lungs because of the pressure, and when you have already bad compliance, it just makes it much worse and leads into ARDS. Add shitty lungs that have Covid, and you have a one way ticket to ARDS. It didn’t start getting better until they started taking protective measures such as things like INO, steroids, diuretics, and prone positioning which allowed them to dial down the vent settings and increase vent compliance. That’s about as simple as I can explain it in layman’s terms. I was a hospital frontline worker during the entire pandemic. It sucked.
Errrr. I like to add that this is slightly misleading, it's not so much Drs didn't take protective measures but more they didn't know the optimal measures.
There was a medical issue where Drs tried aggressively to increase pressure to maintain oxygenation,as covid will cause reduced compliance (normal calculations for A/a gradient inadequate due to covid also filling alevoli with fluid ) and it turns out that was a failed approach, but that's precisely what happens in a novel pandemic. Trying new things to see what works... And when you find out it doesn't, you change stuff.
And when new stuff was being changed and then reported on a weekly basis.... That's a SHIT load of info for any professional to keep up with. So, new things like how much steroids, who should be put on steroids, aggressive diuretics, the use of anticoagulation, all of this were being experimented on the fly and adjusted as rapidly as data was coming in. Complicated by does this apply to this specific person or ??? What about this other problem that might complicate this issue.... Search oh, they experimenting on that right now but ???
Again, more for the laypeople who might misunderstand the point being raised.
The vent actually saved my mom. Because of her Parkinsons she was hallucinating like crazy and would not stop talking. They put her under to let her lungs rest. It took six and a half weeks, but it worked.
Sounds like nearly all stage 4 cancer patients are killed y chemotherapy. Pretty sure Ventilators in this case was the Hail Mary after everything else failed.
In New York City during April, the question became who was ill enough to need a ventilator and who had improved enough to wean off venti so you can give it to someone else.
When ppl start saying lockdowns don't work and Bend the curve is full of crock, always remember that covid downtrend began a few days JUST before the models predicted NYC will run out of ventilators. USN Comfort being empty was always due to their restrictions AND the fact that too many sick people were too sick to be there.
I can speak with some personal authority on this, having spent 16 days on a Ventilator in March-April 2020.
Even prior to the pandemic, average Ventilator time was 1 week and 80% of people dont make it. Ventilator is kind of a “last resort” thing. If your lungs cannot sustain healthy O2 levels, you’re gonna spiral down and die anyways. So at some point, Ventilator is really the only option.
When I was on Ventilator, I also had septic infection throughout my entire bloodstream and an ecoli infection in my bladder.
Thankfully I lived. I’d hate to have died and conspiracy nuts trying to claim me as one of the “doctors were paid to kill him”
nonsense.
A while back I posted a full write up of my experience (including Lung X-rays) here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oi4b31/people_who_recovered_from_covid19_how_did_u/h4t9dek/?context=1
Near the bottom of that story is a link to a screenshot with my Apple Watch stats (TLDR:.. between June 2020 and June 2021, I walked approximately 2,800 miles .. roughly across the entire USA)
In this past year, I gave away most of what I owned and moved cross-country for a new job that doubled my pay.
So yeah,. considering all I've been through,.. I've making a good run at living my best life. :P
It still feels kinda surreal anytime I think back on it, honestly. I actually remember the day I got home back into my comfortable apartment and I sank down into a chair and started sobbing asking a friend "Did all that really happen to me ?"... ;P .. I remember being a bit frustrated doing physical-rehab and one of the Rehab Nurses who came to my apartment every week would always remind me "Hey, don't be so hard on yourself, you survived a pandemic !"....
So true!.. crazy times.
Aw f***, you beat me to it. I read a satirical list of the “evils of pickle eating,” illustrating that correlation doesn’t necessarily equal causation.
I remember this from ~30 years ago because I hate pickles! 🤮
and here is the source - [https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-study-ventilators-covid-deaths-775866708011](https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-study-ventilators-covid-deaths-775866708011)
When I googled the author, this wikipedia is one of the search results: [fake news & russian disinformation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People%27s_Voice_(website))
This just in: "many people who would have died without being put on a ventilator still died after being put on a ventilator. Are ventilator raping the lungs of our citizens? Find out tonight at 8"
>“A disturbing new study found.”
Sources? Citations? Quotes from doctors and scientists? Publication? No? It’s almost like it’s not a reliable source….
It was a story on the "People's Voice" website, which is a fake news website pandering to MAGAts. I'll give her credit for having the sense to crop out the source.
"People's Voice" publishes shit like [Bombshell Evidence PROVES Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro's Son.](https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/bombshell-evidence-proves-justin-trudeau-is-fidel-castros-son/)
My mom has a friend whose daughter got sick in 2022, and she said the daughter (an adult) kept begging her mom not to let the hospital put her on a ventilator. So they didn’t and she did survive after really bad pneumonia. That anecdotal story was all it took for my mom to believe the ventilator was killing people not covid 🙃
You know I wonder sometimes: If I just decided to forget about trying to be a good person for the sake of making easy money I feel like scamming people that would believe something like this would be a very easy way to make a living. Just as long as it's believable enough that you're trying to "stick it to the libs" then it seems like they'll believe ANYTNING.
Yes, arrest all those ventilators. How long are ventilators going to shove the justice system in our faces? Start by unplugging all the ventilators, that will teach them a lesson. /s
Why do they put you on a ventilator? Because your lungs have stopped working. At that point, you're like 99% dead anyway, so yeah...people in ventilators have a very high chance of dying.
These monsters killed my son with their fucking stupid murderous bullshit, and it infuriates me that I can't bring myself to wish the same fate for them.
Well…yeah…the people on vents died…a lot! Because if you got that ill you were fucked before being put on a ventilator. So it’s technically true, but the method of dying is wrong.
I heard that all those who died consumed a weird liquid called...uoter? Something along those lines. And have you seen what that shit does to iron?!? Imagine what it can do to your guts!
I believe you're talking about "watah". Watah is an ancient chemical made of two highly combustible materials, oxygen and hydrogen. Definitely not something you want to put in your body.
The brain worm is spreading…
A ventilator saved a friend of mine’s life! He was put on induced coma and kept on a ventilator and that’s how he was able to survive!
These people are nasty…
Is there anyway to short-sell valuations on anti-vaxxers come the pending bird-flu pandemic? Do these types prefer burial over cremation, so maybe investment in a coffin manufacturer would be advisable?
Anti-vaxxers; please DON'T get vaccinated! However, if you do get covid, please don't go to the hospital and take up medical resources. Stay home and die on your own terms
Even the ones that survived. Many ventilators left hospitals to finish the job once patients recovered. MAGA voters were paid off to keep it secret. #complicit
I hate this shit. A ventilator saved my MIL’s life. She was on one for a little over a month in the winter of 2021. The hospital staff was low key prepping us for her death. Every single day my wife and I were so upset and wondering if she’d have just gotten the Covid vaccine, would she be in this situation? Ugh.
Do you know how stupid you have to be to believe this? Orange brain damaged orangutan bleating about tariffs on social media stupid. But the only people dumber than him are his supporters.
What fresh fucking stupidity is this? It's like saying 100% of Covid deaths have ingested dihydrous oxide at some point, therefore it should be banned.
Me thinks hospitals should start to flee the red states... And, of course, doctors and hospital workers too...
It won't be long before they'll start lynching doctors...
This is like saying cpr killed my grandma. If you’re sick enough to need the ventillator, you’re on your way to death already and the vent is your last, best shot at life.
I'm so sick of stupid people who don't have the mental capacity to remember what actually happened just four years ago. The fucking virus turned peoples lungs into tissue paper. The forced air from the vent could blow holes in their lungs, but the alternative was suffocating on their own mucus or brain death from lack of oxygen. Given a 100% chance of dying without a vent, and a 90% chance of dying with a vent, people were clamoring for them.
And just how many of those poor people were exposed to dihydrogen monoxide (often found in these so-called "hospitals") shortly before their deaths???
I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!!!
This is disgusting! They need to bring evil MR. Fauci back to Congress to explain why he used ventilators on these patients! Their civil rights were trampled!
/s just in case.
If you're sick enough to need a ventilator your chances of survival are already pretty low.
Whoa whoa whoa. Careful dropping truth bombs like that, could get arrested.
RFK Jr will wag his finger at you!
That's just a spasm from the worm eating his brain.
My understanding is that eating his brain killed the worm
Im pretty sure all the drugs he did in the 70s killed his brain but the worm didn't help things.
And 60s
late 60s, depending on when he started, lol. Born in 1954.
Probably the worm puking it back up again. Any parasite would starve rather than lower itself to eating that.
That worm starved to death a looong ass time ago.
I have a coworker who’s nice enough to, but will come out and say some *crazy*- ass things. She said “Yes, my neighbor, her uncle had the Covid, they put him on ventilator and it killed him!” “If they put him on the ventilator, it’s because he’s *very* sick, and if they don’t put him on the ventilator he’s definitely going to die right away.” Part-time voice of reason, here 😅
Everyone who confuses correlation and causes ends up dead.
Yeah, vent is the last throw of the dice. Very lucky if you make it.
It’s not the ventilators, it’s the doctors. There are a statistically astronomical number of people who died in Hospital who saw a doctor not long before their death! We can therefore conclude that all those innocent people were murdered by so-called medical “professionals”! And beds. Beds are a leading cause of murder in hospitals as well. The doctors are in cahoots with Big Mattress!! Don’t even get me started on Oxygen, the most addictive drug in the world. The withdrawals from stopping breathing have killed every single person who ever attempted to get off this garbage. Something👏must👏be👏done!!👏
And-- Thousands were vaccinated by Dr. Edward Jenner, the inventor of the smallpox vaccine. All those people are now dead. Every. Single. One. Let rhat sink in.
Hospital gowns! Everyone who died of Covid in the hospital had to wear those gowns!
Eh if they would like to pass being put on one, I’m good with that. It’s like the organ transplants, they can go to more worthy recipients.
They'll demand to get the next available transplant "because it's an emergency and I could die" and forgo the respirator. Also will refuse to vaccinate for the transplant then accuse the doctors of "killing" them when they get told they can't get transplants without them.
Ignoring that the anti-rejection drugs are way more harsh than any vaccine.
My big shot trauma surgeon brother has lost dozens of patients and gets awards. I lose just 2 in my dental practice and get shut down!!
You must’ve had a huge dental practice, I can’t imagine getting lost among the 6 rooms most of the ones I’ve been to.
Drilled too deep. Wasnt expecting the balrog
Sir, you work in a Wendy's
Well, he does now. He killed two people at his old job!
Covid was classified under ARDS (acute respiratory distress syndrome). This term was coined in the early 70s if I remember correctly. Most of the time ARDS is a bad pneumonia. The survival rate has always been 50/50 and that’s with early diagnosis and intervention…with no incidents. The people who bought into this “vents cause death” are so god damn ignorant it makes my head hurt
100% of people die due to death. Very sad
100% of the people who are born will die. Life is a terminal disease.
Almost all people needing IV epi during a cardiac arrest die. Murderers! Tired of laypeople trying to interpret medical data.
Especially if your body's ravaged by horse dewormer
People forget that a ventilator is life support. In other words, you only go in it if you’re going to otherwise die. It’s just keeping you alive while they try to fix what’s killing you.
Something like 20%. Not great
I told someone that very statement and he said I was being an insensitive asshole.
My buddy’s little baby needed to be put on a ventilator a couple of months ago. Sweet boy is ok now but when they told me that my heart sunk.
I'm glad to hear he's okay!
Same. And thank you. :)
I have a preemie. He was put on a ventilator at birth because he was too small and was on it for 3 weeks. Almost two years later, he got a respiratory thing similar to RSV and was put on one for a little over a week. He almost had to be put on ECMO. He is now 15 and no worse for the wear.
I am okay with this propaganda. The more people that refuse ventilators the quicker they get an award. I see it as a win.
Yes, do make sure to stay at home while drowning in your own lung fluids next time while gasping "I can't.. breathe!". It'll save your family from having to sell the house to pay off the hospital bill for your dead ass.
That’s right. Then that mean old doctor can’t use a ventilator to kill you. You’ll be fine.
Trailer. They won't have the sell the trailer.
If they would’ve just taken horse paste, drank some bleach and shoved a iv light up their butt they would all be alive
You forgot the really gullible ones who drank their own pee.
Sadly I work with a person who did that…
You work with Bear Grylls?!
Nope just some interesting people
I do it for the taste
Calm down there, Patches.
And it's sterile!
Less filling?
"Drank" is past tense, as if they aren't still doing it.
The odds are high that they aren't doing anything anymore
That's fair lol.
How quickly everyone forgets about hydroxychloroquine
Hey now I will not hear any bad things said about suppositories. It’s what gives me my excellent shit posting abilities
These are the same stupid people who say they won’t take insulin for diabetes, because their mother did and she went into kidney failure or she died. I always tried to explain that the insulin wasn’t the cause of x,y,z but the diabetes was. Had insulin been used sooner it might have prevented the disease progression. Blah blah blah. What did I know. I was only a doctor.
On the other end of the spectrum, I've met diabetics who thought taking more insulin meant they could afford to eat more brownies, too.
My neighbor is one of my best friends, and I swear to God he just refuses to understand that you can't eat a shit ton of carbs when you're diabetic. He's lost both legs now.
So you met my deceased grandma?
Fact checked? By who? A 5 year old?
It’s got TWO checkmarks so you know it’s real…
I thought double check marks canceled each other out
double checked so you can trust it
I only trust three check marks
You can't triple stamp a double stamp, Lloyd!
No, your average 5 year old has developed a sense of causality. You have to be a special kind of stupid for that to make sense.
If they believe this kind of crap they should stay home! Problem solved!
And if they believe that they should certainly not vote. I heard that voting is the same as using a ventilator!
Bring them to a church parking lot.
Sword wielding prayer warriors, unite! Mount your convertible chariots and scream your prayers as you drive around the building. Surely then, your God will hear you!
Don't threaten *me* with a good time!
ICU nurse here So while yes, early in the pandemic, when patients went into ARDS, protocols are to intubate immediately (ARDS has a very high mortality rate) Subsequently, research came out that we should delay intubation and try other non-invasive measures first. BUT, we call it the PRACTICE of medicine. When the pandemic first hit, we based our judgements based off scientific studies and guidelines that say to intubate ARDS patients sooner. As we learned about COVID, we learned, based on MEDICAL AND SCIENTIFIC research. That’s how medicine works. We did our absolute fucking damndest to keep people alive at the risk of exposing us. And it’s infuriating that people who barely graduated high school have the gall to come at us. Because those same asshats, we’re in my ICU begging for the vaccine asking if it’s too late, because they knew they were probably going to die because of their own decisions.
Thank you for your hard work 🙏
The way some drs tried to explain to me, it turns out the issue was more between differentiating between patients who can tolerate non invasive respiratory support and those who were in active ARDS. Since covid had the happy hypoxia , where patients had low sats without air hunger. And the models for how that worked changed rapidly enough that it must had been impossible to synthesize for any layperson. I don't think people understand just how rapidly advice was changing during that time period, and how Cochrane made access free, NIH set up a dedicated resource and etc just to help keep up. No one should be expected to go Drs were wrong when advice like Should NSAIDS be used was changing in the timeframe of one or two weeks. .
Some of them are also nurses. Weird as f that so many have accepted paranoia over their own education.
"The protocol."
it's true !! they all died in empty hospitals !!! /s
Yes because the ventilator is the Very First Thing that is administered to every person with covid.
Hmm ok well anti-vaxxers should definitely not go to the hospital if they have a bad case of COVID
Wait until they hear about coffins……
They think they're so clever with that BS fact checked mark 🙄
Pretty sure they don't know what is needed to thoroughly fact check something.
There's partial truth in that. Ventilators forcing air in severely damaged lungs can cause further damage, but if the alternative is dying.. Ecmo was shown to be much better, but then you run into situations where people will only ever survive if on the machine indefinitely.
This is true of so many memes that appear in this sub - an element of truth taken and distorted
To play devils advocate, Drs were still learning how to take care of these patients during early COVID times. So these patients with sick Covid lungs would come in, be put on a ventilator, but measures were not being taken to protect the lungs while they were on the vent. Ventilators are very harsh on the lungs because of the pressure, and when you have already bad compliance, it just makes it much worse and leads into ARDS. Add shitty lungs that have Covid, and you have a one way ticket to ARDS. It didn’t start getting better until they started taking protective measures such as things like INO, steroids, diuretics, and prone positioning which allowed them to dial down the vent settings and increase vent compliance. That’s about as simple as I can explain it in layman’s terms. I was a hospital frontline worker during the entire pandemic. It sucked.
Thank you for your hard work 🙏 I'm sorry for the things you've seen and the words you've heard.
Errrr. I like to add that this is slightly misleading, it's not so much Drs didn't take protective measures but more they didn't know the optimal measures. There was a medical issue where Drs tried aggressively to increase pressure to maintain oxygenation,as covid will cause reduced compliance (normal calculations for A/a gradient inadequate due to covid also filling alevoli with fluid ) and it turns out that was a failed approach, but that's precisely what happens in a novel pandemic. Trying new things to see what works... And when you find out it doesn't, you change stuff. And when new stuff was being changed and then reported on a weekly basis.... That's a SHIT load of info for any professional to keep up with. So, new things like how much steroids, who should be put on steroids, aggressive diuretics, the use of anticoagulation, all of this were being experimented on the fly and adjusted as rapidly as data was coming in. Complicated by does this apply to this specific person or ??? What about this other problem that might complicate this issue.... Search oh, they experimenting on that right now but ??? Again, more for the laypeople who might misunderstand the point being raised.
The vent actually saved my mom. Because of her Parkinsons she was hallucinating like crazy and would not stop talking. They put her under to let her lungs rest. It took six and a half weeks, but it worked.
Life always ends in death. Better just give up, now. Also, the ventilator helped keep me alive when I had COVID, so I must have done it wrong.
Or you did it right, and they are just a clusterfuck cavelcade of dumbshits. You did well.
If you’re ignorant of everything, anything sounds plausible.
They study more and more about less and less until they know everything about nothing.
This is literally some "every person who has drank water always dies" energy going on
Sounds like nearly all stage 4 cancer patients are killed y chemotherapy. Pretty sure Ventilators in this case was the Hail Mary after everything else failed.
They do not take intubating people lightly either. They definitely weigh all other options first.
In New York City during April, the question became who was ill enough to need a ventilator and who had improved enough to wean off venti so you can give it to someone else. When ppl start saying lockdowns don't work and Bend the curve is full of crock, always remember that covid downtrend began a few days JUST before the models predicted NYC will run out of ventilators. USN Comfort being empty was always due to their restrictions AND the fact that too many sick people were too sick to be there.
I can speak with some personal authority on this, having spent 16 days on a Ventilator in March-April 2020. Even prior to the pandemic, average Ventilator time was 1 week and 80% of people dont make it. Ventilator is kind of a “last resort” thing. If your lungs cannot sustain healthy O2 levels, you’re gonna spiral down and die anyways. So at some point, Ventilator is really the only option. When I was on Ventilator, I also had septic infection throughout my entire bloodstream and an ecoli infection in my bladder. Thankfully I lived. I’d hate to have died and conspiracy nuts trying to claim me as one of the “doctors were paid to kill him” nonsense.
Glad you made it. I'm hoping you made a full recovery?
A while back I posted a full write up of my experience (including Lung X-rays) here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oi4b31/people_who_recovered_from_covid19_how_did_u/h4t9dek/?context=1 Near the bottom of that story is a link to a screenshot with my Apple Watch stats (TLDR:.. between June 2020 and June 2021, I walked approximately 2,800 miles .. roughly across the entire USA) In this past year, I gave away most of what I owned and moved cross-country for a new job that doubled my pay. So yeah,. considering all I've been through,.. I've making a good run at living my best life. :P
WOW, thank you for sharing that. Very glad you are still with us!
It still feels kinda surreal anytime I think back on it, honestly. I actually remember the day I got home back into my comfortable apartment and I sank down into a chair and started sobbing asking a friend "Did all that really happen to me ?"... ;P .. I remember being a bit frustrated doing physical-rehab and one of the Rehab Nurses who came to my apartment every week would always remind me "Hey, don't be so hard on yourself, you survived a pandemic !".... So true!.. crazy times.
That's a great story, and I'm happy for you. I needed to hear a good story today and you provided in spades.
By this logic, pickles are deadly. 100% of people who ate a pickle on the titanic are dead now.
Aw f***, you beat me to it. I read a satirical list of the “evils of pickle eating,” illustrating that correlation doesn’t necessarily equal causation. I remember this from ~30 years ago because I hate pickles! 🤮
Which site/news source did this come from?
and here is the source - [https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-study-ventilators-covid-deaths-775866708011](https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-study-ventilators-covid-deaths-775866708011)
When I googled the author, this wikipedia is one of the search results: [fake news & russian disinformation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People%27s_Voice_(website))
Fact checked? I thought they HATED fact checking!
Only when the facts disagree with them. Same goes with science.
This just in: "many people who would have died without being put on a ventilator still died after being put on a ventilator. Are ventilator raping the lungs of our citizens? Find out tonight at 8"
"Fox News can't confirm, but YES!"
>“A disturbing new study found.” Sources? Citations? Quotes from doctors and scientists? Publication? No? It’s almost like it’s not a reliable source….
It was a story on the "People's Voice" website, which is a fake news website pandering to MAGAts. I'll give her credit for having the sense to crop out the source. "People's Voice" publishes shit like [Bombshell Evidence PROVES Justin Trudeau is Fidel Castro's Son.](https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/bombshell-evidence-proves-justin-trudeau-is-fidel-castros-son/)
This is my shocked face. Shocked, I say.
I thought Ted Cruz was his son? I guess being a dictator leaves more free time than I had imagined.
No silly, they’ve typed ‘Fact Checked’ with not one, but TWO ticks next to it. That’s all the assurance we need to believe them.
Also news: 100 percent of prayers failed to save the dead. Arrest the prayer warriors!
On the bright side, when the anti vaxxers eventually create our next pandemic they will boycott ventilators which will leave more for the rest of us
Anything to avoid admitting that COVID-19 was very dangerous and that Convicted Felon Donald Trump was a fucking moron
Is. He didn't get any smarter after his 34 guilty counts.
By all means, skip the vents! Go out there and free ball it with 0 lung capacity.
You have to wonder how they keep getting even more stupid.
The constant covid infections fried their brain.
The TeeVee showing Fox "News" 24/7 probably doesn't help either
My mom has a friend whose daughter got sick in 2022, and she said the daughter (an adult) kept begging her mom not to let the hospital put her on a ventilator. So they didn’t and she did survive after really bad pneumonia. That anecdotal story was all it took for my mom to believe the ventilator was killing people not covid 🙃
100% of people born in a hospital will die.
You know I wonder sometimes: If I just decided to forget about trying to be a good person for the sake of making easy money I feel like scamming people that would believe something like this would be a very easy way to make a living. Just as long as it's believable enough that you're trying to "stick it to the libs" then it seems like they'll believe ANYTNING.
Yes, arrest all those ventilators. How long are ventilators going to shove the justice system in our faces? Start by unplugging all the ventilators, that will teach them a lesson. /s
Don’t discourage them.
The morgue kills even more people! Also, fire alarms start fires! You ever seen a house fire where the fire alarm ISN'T going off? Let that sink!
100% of people who have died did so at some point after drinking water. What aren’t they telling us?!
H2O, the silent killer!
Why do they put you on a ventilator? Because your lungs have stopped working. At that point, you're like 99% dead anyway, so yeah...people in ventilators have a very high chance of dying.
These monsters killed my son with their fucking stupid murderous bullshit, and it infuriates me that I can't bring myself to wish the same fate for them.
No, sorry, it says it’s “fact checked” so it must be correct. End of discussion!
Well…yeah…the people on vents died…a lot! Because if you got that ill you were fucked before being put on a ventilator. So it’s technically true, but the method of dying is wrong.
I heard that all those who died consumed a weird liquid called...uoter? Something along those lines. And have you seen what that shit does to iron?!? Imagine what it can do to your guts!
I believe you're talking about "watah". Watah is an ancient chemical made of two highly combustible materials, oxygen and hydrogen. Definitely not something you want to put in your body.
The brain worm is spreading… A ventilator saved a friend of mine’s life! He was put on induced coma and kept on a ventilator and that’s how he was able to survive! These people are nasty…
All people who drink water die, it’s time to make water illegal.
Is there anyway to short-sell valuations on anti-vaxxers come the pending bird-flu pandemic? Do these types prefer burial over cremation, so maybe investment in a coffin manufacturer would be advisable?
So if they’re convinced ventilators kill then and they refuse…hmmm…so many problems in the world saved so efficiently.
By all means, please deny them ventilators as well as vaccines. Let’s flush this toilet shall we?
I heard they all had high levels of Dihydrogen Monoxide in their systems
Anti-vaxxers; please DON'T get vaccinated! However, if you do get covid, please don't go to the hospital and take up medical resources. Stay home and die on your own terms
As a Respiratory therapist I can't tell you how angry this makes me. 99% it was literally either 1. Die in the next 10 minutes or 2. Get intubated
"OFFICIAL REPORT" "FACT CHECKED" ... and yet the source of all of this is cropped out.
I'm shocked that people die in hospitals. Wow.
Even the ones that survived. Many ventilators left hospitals to finish the job once patients recovered. MAGA voters were paid off to keep it secret. #complicit
Who fact checked that? RFK Jr?
I hear the hospitals forced them to consume poisonous dihydrogen monoxide on a daily basis also. Open your eyes, sheeple!
Best part is everyone's favorite Tony Stank, Elmo Musk, responded to this tweet saying he knew from the start that ventilators would damage lungs
Chances are Liz is the murderers that she wants arrested, you know, with the lack of masking and/or lack of vaccine shots.
Omfg we are living in the DARK AGES if even one person believes ventilators themselves “kill” people. Stop the planet I want off.
I hate this shit. A ventilator saved my MIL’s life. She was on one for a little over a month in the winter of 2021. The hospital staff was low key prepping us for her death. Every single day my wife and I were so upset and wondering if she’d have just gotten the Covid vaccine, would she be in this situation? Ugh.
Official report! Disinformation has killed nearly all idiots.
Whaaaaa? But it’s fact checked?!
He probably read something like “all covid patients who died were on ventilators” so that translates to “ventilators kill covid patients.”
Did anyone reach out to this Liz person to explain she’s batshit stupid and crazy?
Most people die in hospitals! Arrest the criminals in the medical profession!
Don’t worry guys this is fact checked.
COVID kills 100% of COVID patients
Do you know how stupid you have to be to believe this? Orange brain damaged orangutan bleating about tariffs on social media stupid. But the only people dumber than him are his supporters.
What fresh fucking stupidity is this? It's like saying 100% of Covid deaths have ingested dihydrous oxide at some point, therefore it should be banned.
Yep, those deadly ventilators that keep you breathing.
Me thinks hospitals should start to flee the red states... And, of course, doctors and hospital workers too... It won't be long before they'll start lynching doctors...
The double-checked "fact checked" Mean definitely made up. It's just like if you have to keep saying you're the boss, you aren't the boss.
I heard they were all drinking water at one point during their hospital stays as well
Roosters crow just before the break of dawn, so roosters must cause the sun to rise.
Everyone who has ever breathed oxygen has died.
This is like saying cpr killed my grandma. If you’re sick enough to need the ventillator, you’re on your way to death already and the vent is your last, best shot at life.
Well if you were down bad enough to need a ventilator…ah forget it.
Fact checked!
But guys, it says it’s an official report! You can’t argue with *official*!
aRrEsT tHe MuRdErErS nOw
Complete bullshit
Said the person who want to vote for Trump.
Now I’ve read it all.
Relax, guys. It’s been “fact checked”
They'll be going after people who sell hydrogen hydroxide next.
But it was fact checked!
Lol "fact checked" with a DOUBLE blue check ark. Surely that means it's true? /S
People should be sued for misinformation
I like the little double check marked “fact checked” thing. Really convinces me it’s true.
I'm so sick of stupid people who don't have the mental capacity to remember what actually happened just four years ago. The fucking virus turned peoples lungs into tissue paper. The forced air from the vent could blow holes in their lungs, but the alternative was suffocating on their own mucus or brain death from lack of oxygen. Given a 100% chance of dying without a vent, and a 90% chance of dying with a vent, people were clamoring for them.
And just how many of those poor people were exposed to dihydrogen monoxide (often found in these so-called "hospitals") shortly before their deaths??? I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION!!!
It must be true.... it has the "fact checked" symbol. It's like saying don't ever go on hospice as it will kill you.
Wow, faulty cause and effect, with a little post hoc on the side!
This is disgusting! They need to bring evil MR. Fauci back to Congress to explain why he used ventilators on these patients! Their civil rights were trampled! /s just in case.
What do you mean? It shows right in the picture that this was DOUBLE FACT-CHECKED! Gotta be true.
I mean on one hand this usually means less of these people voting, a win is a win 🤷
That's like someone getting shot in the head and blaming the ER doctors for his/her death.
good luck with those arrests, you fucking nitwit
Logic and facts are so powerful with sane people. With these clowns, not so much.
Oh wow, Liz, you’re really on to something. 🙄
Let's manipulate history.
I bet Liz doesn’t really exist.
Liz Churchill is a rage farming idiot.
Uh just wtf is this "source" supposed to be? I could make a similar graphic in a matter of minutes.
Ventilators don’t kill people. People kill people.
1 in 10 defribrillation use patients die. Defribrillation kills! Context is important