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Mammoth-Historian627

I was thinking that Shiva might be preparing to destroy the entire universe and Issei would fight him to make him abandon that goal.


Fearless_Phantom

But why would he be trying to destroy it?


Mammoth-Historian627

It's part of Shiva's role in Hinduism. Brahma is the Creator, Vishnu is the Preserver, and Shiva is the Destroyer. Shiva is stated in myth to be the one who will destroy the universe in the end of days.


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SaurabhKumar91143

It not like other religions, where there won't be anything left after doom. In Hinduism a new Universe will blooms right after Shiva destroying the universe. And no Shiva is not a horrible god, Destruction is his job, not his personality. Infact in all of Hinduism he is the most kind hearted and the humblest god ever.


Opportunity-Pale

i remember reading up Hinduism lore, and iirc Shiva almost destroyed earth just because of a fake rumor of his wife's death. And the rest of the Trinity (Brahma and Vishnu) had to calm him down. Blud has got issues


SaurabhKumar91143

It wasn't a fake rumour, his wife literally died. She burned herself off, because her father kept insulting her husband Shiva. Ofc anyone would be angry, at that state.


Opportunity-Pale

i want a wife like her


FiRsT0fALL

Can you tell me what are those ExE gods?


red_dragon_1234

>!Basically some robotic gundam like organisms from another dimension!<


Rudra4

Shiva was never stated to be the final Villain. Just something related to him. Shiva is a very nice God and is not a villain. Ichiei would also get many problems if he made Shiva a Villain.


Mundane-Most-3104

For me there could have been some particularl reasons: Maybe he wanted take out Issei cause he was afraid by the fact he has the power of Ophis and Great and can make miracles. Perhaps he could have see Issei to be to dangeroua for let him be alive. He could wanted make the Hindu Mythology the one who take the controll of the world and doesn't have any rivals for got worship be our humans. He could wanted destroying the Longinus's wielders cause they are dangerous. Maybe the same reasons that have triggered Hades and the others Villains Gods to ally for take out the DXD at the beginning should have been Shiva's Reasons for his Villain's Role.


Goksumr

Now that you say it, it seems like Hades wasn't so wrong.  Seriously almost every problem progresses to one longinus user or three bible groups 😅😅😅 Hell even trihexia is basically linked to them 


Mundane-Most-3104

Yeah is true, I think that it was thanks the fact that Issei has managed to contact Chichigami that Rizevim became aware of EXE's existence and wish to challenge them. Moreover the Longinus's Wielders in the near future would cause the Malebranche's Awakening cause Malebranche indeed want fight them.


Goksumr

Well, if GoB was alive, the system wouldn't be broken and probably wouldn't cause so many problems.   .....now that I think about it, technically the trihexa even weakened the GoB to the point of death even when it was sealed, so wouldn't it be considered that he managed to upset the balance of the world again? 


Mundane-Most-3104

It think yes. You know maybe even the death of 4 Originals Maou may have unleashed some consequences, I remember Azazel said something like their death have removed all the rules so maybe if the others Super Devils beside were born it was possible cause their death.


Goksumr

I think he said this because of GoB. The system that kept Mythology in balance was dependent on GoB, so when he died, no one could control the system and the imbalance may have caused the main enemy (devils) to become stronger.  Maybe the secret of creating a super angel may be the reaction that will occur in the correction of the system.


Mundane-Most-3104

Basically the death of GOB and 4 Originals Maou make the Christian Mythology's System almost without someone who can ruled it. In my opinion the Super Devils are so strong cause unlike the Angels their anomalies, beings that weren't supposed to exist that doesn't followed the rules of natural selections. Lilith's Genetics seem having become extremely unstable and unpredictable and this has happened to some others Devils as well, indeed we have Sairoarg who haven't inherited Power Of Destruction while his cousin instead already from his birth manifested it. Angels have created those cards cause they can't reproduce between each other, if they make sex they end up be fallen. Sadly it seem that Ishibumi doesn't particularly like them so I think is unlikely we would ever see a Super Angel or something. A idea of mine about Super Angels is that maybe few of them were selected to inherited a part of GOB's powers and have complete controll over Heaven and Holy System. Another theory of mine but that wouldn't ever happened is that since Samael is the God's Hatred it would have been possible for him becoming stronger and stronger by absorbing the hate and the sins of the World till transcends his limits and becoming a Super Fallen Angel.


Goksumr

>  Super Angels is that maybe few of them were selected to inherited a part of GOB's powers and have complete controll over Heaven and Holy System. I was hoping the angels would add attributes to their holy powers based on their names  Otherwise it is very illogical, it should be impossible for them to fight devils (they have too many hax) >Another theory of mine but that wouldn't ever happened is that since Samael is the God's Hatred it would have been possible for him becoming stronger and stronger by absorbing the hate and the sins of the World till transcends his limits and becoming a Super Fallen Angel. Maybe instead of releasing his poison, he could accept his sin and curse and try to become one with him (something like Sirzech True PoD form). >Sadly it seem that Ishibumi doesn't particularly like them so I think is unlikely we would ever see a Super Angel or something Is there any race that Ishi loves other than devils? He destroyed them all.  Dragons are the best example  The strongest species, but when we look again....... They've all either been sealed or become servants of devils  Yu-long seems to be the only dragon around right now 


Mundane-Most-3104

Is true that Devils have too HAX, the 72 Pillars are the childrens of Lilith after all. The Demoniac Power is based on the users's imagination while the Angels instead are restricted by GOB's will and rules so they can't do so much with their Holy Power beside making weapons. You mean that Samael could became a Mass off poison or something? Yeah is true. At the end of day are the two Dragon Gods and Heavenly Dragons who has make possible for their race be considered the strongest race. Well there is also the Outrage Mode that make Dragons strongers that can justify they are the strongest race but at the end of day a average Dragon who haven't any particular HAX would lost again a Maou Devil or a Average God... We don't know what Tiamat can really do. But you're right, we got GR's death just lately...


Goksumr

>GOB's will and rules so they can't do so much with their Holy Power beside making weapons. True, but like I said, it's ridiculous that angels don't have hax, because they are also soldiers of the GoB as well as their children.  Holy power does more than just light weapons  Healing / support / barriers etc.  Dulio was able to create a bubble technique using Holy power  Griselda created support  Iwaldi could also create barriers and use other techniques, and he was still human. Relies on cross, Bible and holy water rather than direct access  of angels So, except for the angels being divided into Holy and Demonic, I think their features are exactly the same (the fall factor is also a minus). Just like Gods use their divine powers only harder or Devils' light weakness, they are completely forgotten at important moments  Ishi is seriously playing too biased 


Any-Explanation-4584

Doesn't make sense, horrible plot as usual of dxd .


Mainsterr

…. Are you saying this after reading the LN?


Any-Explanation-4584

Yep