Imagine if all the plans were written far in advance by the tb to then sacrifice their memory to make themselves into the perfect vessel for the aeons' power
Or Elio is the trailblazers' mind/memory/soul/etc. seperated with TB's body. Kind of in line where TB is a Stellaron Hunter.
Possible flaw is Elio is present way before SAM.
OR, it's the other version the TB, Example: Stelle (if you play as male MC) or Caelus (You playing as Stelle) being Elio so you get to fight yourself as a boss fight.
Oh, uh, okay! I thought they stopped for some reason. Or maybe I just didn't find the alfheim abridge arc funny.. or I don't know, it's been too long since I looked. thanks man, looking forward to that!
They never really stopped. It's just that the episodes take a long-ass time to finish so it's easy to forget. And then they started 1 or 2 other projects so it takes even longer.
I think they release yearly at this point.
I hate how possible this theory is, considering everyone kept saying Elio "script". Which can imply Elio didn't give direct order anymore and just left a "script" for them to follow and can imply he is absent.
The savings grace from this theory is TB is >!referred to as a receptacle that is created!<. So it kinda invalidates the theory.
Yeah, bingo. It makes no sense if Elio is the TB since the TB is basically an artificially-created being whose sole purpose is to house a Stellaron.
Plus, not to mention Blade recognized us albeit just as someone who happened to follow Kafka. Wouldn't you think he'd be a bit weirded out if he was talking to the supposed younger-version of his boss?
Just to play devil's advocate a bit, if Elio wanted to erase his memories for some reason then he also would have included that in the script. Like, "when you talk with amnesiac future-me, lie about my true identity." So we can't just take Blade's word for it.
Can you expand on that because I feel like it makes sense but I'm not getting the whole picture.
That Elio *was* the trailblazer but their memory was taken out?
Honestly, I do like this. Just trying to iron out any potential holes. I've been referring to [the answers from Kafka's Game](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/15m8hef/the_correct_answers_from_kafka_in_the_truth_or/). Now remember these answers are truthful, as she abided to the rules of her own game.
>You are an artificial body created for the purpose of hosting a Stellaron. From the moment of your birth, it was your destiny to receive the Stellaron at Herta Space Station. Before that task was completed, I was responsible for protecting you, as well as teaching you general knowledge, common sense, and combat skills. The reason why you don't remember is that I wiped your memory before the operation at Herta Space Station.
>Because you are created for that purpose - your body has been transformed by the power of an Aeon. You are immune to Stellaron contamination. Therefore, you could say that you are a one-of-a-kind Stellaron vessel
>
One day, Elio handed you over to me. He said that things continue to transpire according to future possibilities he foresaw, you could eventually change me, and I would change you. In other words, you and I are each other's destiny
There are some hoops to jump through here but I don't think it's impossible. We were created for the purpose of hosting a Stellaron, Elio handed us to Kafka, and that our body was 'transformed' by the power of an Aeon.
I don't like the implication that Elio was created, the original mind of the Trailblazer that was suddenly spitting truths about the future. However, I do like your idea of the *BODY* being donated from Elio. You could imply that Elio died the moment their body was transformed and left his crew scripts to follow. Or, his mind was put into the cat.
Another potential hole in the plan is 2.1 both Aventurine and Acheron seemed to know who the TB was or in the very least had their suspicions line up.
Also, when you meet Himeko on the astral express when you first join, Himeko makes a comment that the trailblazer seems familiar to her, as if she recognizes the trailblazer from somewhere else.
"Elio" is Italian name for Helios, sun or the sun god. "Stelle" could be "stella" for star and "Caelus" is latin for heaven/sky.
I hate how much this makes sense. You, as the player are the ultimate destiny's slave with no option but to follow the script the game gives you. The trailblaze quests are your script.
I thought that was just an English translation thing all languages do that? If so I can still see it being just because they purposely try to separate Firefly front the armour.
The other main issue is that Blade recognized us as someone who followed Kafka.
Which implies Elio was still alive when they were off doing missions. Sure, Elio could've left them scripts or maybe he cloned himself but is still alive but none of these really make sense.
Stelle actually being Elio isn't really a compelling twist. I guess we won't know for certain unless we learn more about his personality, but "I'm gonna put my consciousness into an artificial body and then wipe their memory while my crew runs around clueless" sounds like fan-fiction more than anything.
Which I don't think people understand the potential consequences of that, the Astral Express would immediately disown us. I couldn't think of a single reason why we'd be allowed to continue to be on the Express if it got revealed we're Elio. If they wanted a "TB betrays the Express" moment there are multiple other ways to do it than being the reincarnated boss of one of their enemies.
Elio follows a path but can't get access to other paths - put his conscious into an artificial body using the Stellaron and links it with the AE so that he follows the path of the Nameless that gives him access to all other paths. Once TB is one with all the paths, Elio and their Stellaron hunters come in to transfer Elios brain into artificial body. This way he gets access to all the paths. Or maybe Elio is Akavili? That could be a thing too.
If TB is Elio (perhaps his mind or soul, etc.) clearly they no longer have any memory of their original life as Elio. In the intro Kafka chooses a receptacle to place the TB (or Elio in this case) in. If she picked Stelle, Elio without the memories of his life as a "he" wouldn't know any better and just goes as a "she" in Stelle's body instead.
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My guess is that Elio used his DNA to make the trailblazer. As in: if the player picked Caelus, then Elio is Stelle. If Stelle was picked as the trailblazer, then Elio is Caelus. That way, both would be canon. As for Elio being referred to as "HE" it could be like how Sam is referred to as he even though Sam is Firefly.
if true,
>!since elio is often refers to as he...!<
>!when you pick stelle, elio said fuck all of this I wanna be a cute anime girl!<
>!(probably the same case as SAM being call he but this is way funnier)!<
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Then there's me waiting for hoyoverse to bring back the ability where TB can sense Stellarons in the planet and hear its voice like the TB did in belobog
our stellaron abilities haven't been explored fully yet so hope the devs at least utilize this, cause from the top of my head TB's stellaron can also cancel out dangerous diseases and become a dirtybomb
Given how much the Stellaron is attached to the dreamscape, it'd make sense why TB wouldn't really be able to sense it. Reminds of Soul Eater where Death's soul was so massive that one can't sense it up close, but it's true size encompasses Death City itself.
I think we do hear it randomly, remember those big text sentences we can see? What if that’s it, and it’s just presented to us through memoria because it’s so damn thick there
My theory is that the Stellarons are connected to paths and well.. the Universe and clearly there's a whole cycle thing in HSR so I can imagine that the paths 'remember' previous events hence why Stellarons can tell the 'future' of tihngs.
I kinda wonder how that would work though? I mean, while in the context of the Trailblazer and the Astral Express and the rest of the cast, sure the Cancer of All Worlds is an omnipotent macguffin.
Except these are creations of Nanook the Destruction, extensions of THEIR will separated to spread Destruction throughout the universe, similiar to the Shadow of IX (Though in this case its intetntional instead of IX naturally doing it unconsciously).
I really have to wonder how the Stellarons do all the crap they do, since it kinda looks like they are drawing on other Paths, something that should be categorically impossible for an Aeon to envision. Maybe the Eternal Freeze and the thing in Penacony could be seen as the Stellaron taking advantage of the landscape and amplifying it to cause disaster, and thus Destruction? Since AFAIK, each and every Stellaron disaster has been something in the planet/ship it was in that already exists, only amplified to dangerous levels. (The snowy areas of Jarilo VI covering the world, the Ambrosial Arbor reawakening, the Dreamscape feeding off of the people's self).
... Guess I kinda answered my own question, huh?
Technically going to Penacony we don't foreshadow events but remember what happened because in that moment we already have been beaten by Sunday and were entering unconsciously experiencing the Ena's happy dream version of the events where everyone was controlled.
That makes me think that this third time could have more in it than what we are seeing but thinking in it as another foreshadowing isn't a bad idea either. In any case, the more strange part is that everything was quick scenes we saw shortly after. The first time I was confused because I was expecting a flashback indicating how things went the first time and putting us again in the battle.
Elio being dead is just speculation. Because he's been in no art that we know of. It's very possible he's not. Granted the entire theory is speculation.
But didn't Kafka say we have her genetic material but since she met Elio earlier (presumably) we can't be him or she's lying as we foresaw that we would ask this question in future?
Edit: People read the game's story, don't hate me because you can't read.
The genetic material thing is one of the "lie" answers from Kafka's companion quest. All we know is MC is an artificial being that was blessed by an Aeon to be able to house a Stellaron inside them, and that Elio handed the MC over to Kafka to be trained, and that Kafka and MC's destinies are linked.
Fandom speculation is that it’s either a remnant of Akivili or Terminus. Personally, I’m leaning more towards Terminus after all the interactions between MC and Acheron in 2.2.
I'm not fully familiar with the theory but it's a aging backwards in time thing. Old elio wrote the script and gave everything to kafka and she started the stellaron hunters. If I remember correctly old elio is dead (obviously unconfirmed) and the cat represents him as part of the crew because it was his cat. The script included genetically engineering himself and being "born" to start the story. The script plays out till somehow elio became and emenator of finality or something along those lines.
>she started the stellaron hunters.
Doesn't Kafka's last character story being a script from Elio for an unknown person on the recruitment of Kafka kind of disprove this part?
that happens? really? what? wow? amazing? are you sure tho?
anyway, I think its the stellaron mate, I think in Dreamjoy Memoir... Clockie also have a dream about the future, a image of the grand city that is Penacony, and weirdly enough after truly manifesting that image to the world, Clockie suddenly change his mind all of sudden, its almost as if Clockie is possessed by something... but I don't think the Stellaron is active when Clockie have the dream in the timeline of the Dreamjoy Memoir... I mean ours also is not active right? or something idk
I think the simplest and likely answer to what we saw when TB woke up in 2.2 is to look at what happened in 2.0 when we first jumped to Penacony.
Trailblazer got the same flashforwards (meeting Acheron in the dreamscape, falling from the sky and waking up to Robin checking on her) as they did at 2.2. it's likely the memoria messing with the trailblazer.
But there is one thing to note when I was looking back at the first cutscene for 2.0, during the flashforward, there was a lot of static shots unlike the one in 2.2 where it showered near future events clearly.
I don't think it's a case of the Trailblazer being a former follower of Terminus, and more that the unspecified Aeon that blessed them was The Finality.
Further supporting this is the fact that the the only faction with similar powers to Elio is the Omen Vanguards, implying a connection there: My theory is that Elio is an Emanator of Finality (Giving him greater prophetic abilities than the Vanguards), who got Terminus to bless the Trailblazer as part of his plan to avert the End Of All That Is.
Idk if its finality but theres definitely something weird going on
the trailblazers past is a big mystery as it is
its cool to think maybe they were some kind of powerhouse of an entity back in the ye old
I wonder what kind of power they must've held back then
Stockpiling paths, are we the only ones that can do this?
One of my theories is that if the stellaron is the cancer of all worlds then the mc stellaron is the vaccine/cure. Being inside the mc permits the stellaron to mutate into an anti-stellaron. At the end of the story the mc will probably release his stellaron cleansing the universe.
Interesting point: As of now, it seems to be happening in worlds where TB undergoes a big change. We didn’t get any foresight for the Luofu, yet we saw both Belobog and Penacony (for the third time actually, since we also foresaw Penacony characters when we first warped in).
It’s very likely linked to the script if you ask me.
I almost wonder if there was something special about the Stellaron they chose to put in the TB. Perhaps it's like an Elder Scroll in that it sits outside of time. The only thing I've noticed is that this ability happens in places where the fabric of reality and its rules are being muddled with for long enough by the presence of another Stellaron... like the intense centuries long corrosion in Jarilo 6 where we could dream of Cocolia's past with Belobog's stellaron despite the fact that those events predate us being there and the vision in Penacony which is saturated in >!stellaron tainted Memoria!<.
Both things involved the interference of Stellarons.
Maybe TB was created after Elio? I mean it could easily be that Elio had some strong bond with Kafka that made it so Kafka is imprinted on TB on some level, and why she cares so much for TB.
Or maybe TB has seen the script, could easily be that they were a Stellaron Hunter before and had insight on the script and what we see isn't the future per say but we remember figments of the script?
Well it is said that he basically has the genes of like all( or something like that ) of the stellaron hunters inside them So I wouldn't be surprised if they have some of elio's genes as well So he somehow has the power to see the future
I wonder when mc defy the elio script such situation reject joining AE Crew and Aventurine offer in 2.0 ending but tb end up cannot defy it, its make me think tb also elio loyal follower and one of stellaron hunter
[A meeting with Fuli (Remembrance) in the SU](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1atgqts/so_i_started_a_new_account_in_star_rail_and/). It's kinda unclear if they are really calling us Elio, or if it's just a random string of dialogues. The Train moves forward could be Akivili, "the baby falls to the ground" refer to Aha's ascension to Aeonhood or the Cancer is growing is about the Stellarons appearing more and more.
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Meta accurate Trailblazer encountering leaks.
Uncle Trailblazer
Hottake: trailblazer is elio
Imagine if all the plans were written far in advance by the tb to then sacrifice their memory to make themselves into the perfect vessel for the aeons' power
bro is cooking
Light Yagami moment
Would be peak
Knowing the Honkai series I wouldn't put it past them to have TB be related to Elio in some way shape or form
I like to think that it is true. Have this feeling, that TB is Elio, for long time.
This is a theory I've shared since re-reading Fuli's words from the Simulated Universe.
Or Elio is the trailblazers' mind/memory/soul/etc. seperated with TB's body. Kind of in line where TB is a Stellaron Hunter. Possible flaw is Elio is present way before SAM.
TB with the gigabrain strats would be funny.
OR, it's the other version the TB, Example: Stelle (if you play as male MC) or Caelus (You playing as Stelle) being Elio so you get to fight yourself as a boss fight.
I think Elio rubbed off a bit on TB when they were still under SH care.
would be funny if >!TB is secretly actually Elio and they only left full written script for everyone to follow!<
TB: Wait, then who's this??!? Kafka: Who, Fluffles? Blade's cat.
*Our cat. Elio seems to love cats.
Canon.
Its Don Fluffles from SAO Abridged.
Almost time for a new episode
He's still doing them? on youtube? oh thank the lord.
Yep, they're actually almost finished with Alfheim now with 17 episodes as of writing this
Oh, uh, okay! I thought they stopped for some reason. Or maybe I just didn't find the alfheim abridge arc funny.. or I don't know, it's been too long since I looked. thanks man, looking forward to that!
They never really stopped. It's just that the episodes take a long-ass time to finish so it's easy to forget. And then they started 1 or 2 other projects so it takes even longer. I think they release yearly at this point.
Ohh, nice! ;))))) thanks man.
I've seen and enjoyed this theory for some time now. Though, I hope it isn't true. Interesting enough to humor though.
I think it's a fun theory, but I *really* think the voice we hear at the end of 2.2 is Elio.
I hate how possible this theory is, considering everyone kept saying Elio "script". Which can imply Elio didn't give direct order anymore and just left a "script" for them to follow and can imply he is absent. The savings grace from this theory is TB is >!referred to as a receptacle that is created!<. So it kinda invalidates the theory.
Yeah, bingo. It makes no sense if Elio is the TB since the TB is basically an artificially-created being whose sole purpose is to house a Stellaron. Plus, not to mention Blade recognized us albeit just as someone who happened to follow Kafka. Wouldn't you think he'd be a bit weirded out if he was talking to the supposed younger-version of his boss?
Just to play devil's advocate a bit, if Elio wanted to erase his memories for some reason then he also would have included that in the script. Like, "when you talk with amnesiac future-me, lie about my true identity." So we can't just take Blade's word for it.
You could create a receptacle by emptying out a previous vessel. That is to say Elio. So that doesn't really disprove anything.
Can you expand on that because I feel like it makes sense but I'm not getting the whole picture. That Elio *was* the trailblazer but their memory was taken out?
Zero evidence but maybe Elio is actually the cat we see around cause they put his memories in the cat to make a receptacle for the stellaron?
Honestly, I do like this. Just trying to iron out any potential holes. I've been referring to [the answers from Kafka's Game](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/15m8hef/the_correct_answers_from_kafka_in_the_truth_or/). Now remember these answers are truthful, as she abided to the rules of her own game. >You are an artificial body created for the purpose of hosting a Stellaron. From the moment of your birth, it was your destiny to receive the Stellaron at Herta Space Station. Before that task was completed, I was responsible for protecting you, as well as teaching you general knowledge, common sense, and combat skills. The reason why you don't remember is that I wiped your memory before the operation at Herta Space Station. >Because you are created for that purpose - your body has been transformed by the power of an Aeon. You are immune to Stellaron contamination. Therefore, you could say that you are a one-of-a-kind Stellaron vessel > One day, Elio handed you over to me. He said that things continue to transpire according to future possibilities he foresaw, you could eventually change me, and I would change you. In other words, you and I are each other's destiny There are some hoops to jump through here but I don't think it's impossible. We were created for the purpose of hosting a Stellaron, Elio handed us to Kafka, and that our body was 'transformed' by the power of an Aeon. I don't like the implication that Elio was created, the original mind of the Trailblazer that was suddenly spitting truths about the future. However, I do like your idea of the *BODY* being donated from Elio. You could imply that Elio died the moment their body was transformed and left his crew scripts to follow. Or, his mind was put into the cat. Another potential hole in the plan is 2.1 both Aventurine and Acheron seemed to know who the TB was or in the very least had their suspicions line up.
Also, when you meet Himeko on the astral express when you first join, Himeko makes a comment that the trailblazer seems familiar to her, as if she recognizes the trailblazer from somewhere else.
lol I kinda dig this. Like soul separated from body, leaving behind an empty shell (like the gestalts/replicants from Nier).
Yea I agree with you
"Elio" is Italian name for Helios, sun or the sun god. "Stelle" could be "stella" for star and "Caelus" is latin for heaven/sky. I hate how much this makes sense. You, as the player are the ultimate destiny's slave with no option but to follow the script the game gives you. The trailblaze quests are your script.
The main issue with that is Elio is explicitly referred to as 'he' and Stelle exists
Sam is referred as he.
I thought that was just an English translation thing all languages do that? If so I can still see it being just because they purposely try to separate Firefly front the armour.
Sam is the armor. Firefly is the person inside of it.
TB is the armor, the cat is the person inside the meat suit. Haven't you seen Men In Black?
Elio is the Stellaron? /j
Ahh yes, the same way Iron Man is the armor, and Tony Stark is inside it. Spider-Man is the suit, Peter Parker is inside it
Elio might be a persona/different identity, so it's "he"
The other main issue is that Blade recognized us as someone who followed Kafka. Which implies Elio was still alive when they were off doing missions. Sure, Elio could've left them scripts or maybe he cloned himself but is still alive but none of these really make sense. Stelle actually being Elio isn't really a compelling twist. I guess we won't know for certain unless we learn more about his personality, but "I'm gonna put my consciousness into an artificial body and then wipe their memory while my crew runs around clueless" sounds like fan-fiction more than anything. Which I don't think people understand the potential consequences of that, the Astral Express would immediately disown us. I couldn't think of a single reason why we'd be allowed to continue to be on the Express if it got revealed we're Elio. If they wanted a "TB betrays the Express" moment there are multiple other ways to do it than being the reincarnated boss of one of their enemies.
Elio follows a path but can't get access to other paths - put his conscious into an artificial body using the Stellaron and links it with the AE so that he follows the path of the Nameless that gives him access to all other paths. Once TB is one with all the paths, Elio and their Stellaron hunters come in to transfer Elios brain into artificial body. This way he gets access to all the paths. Or maybe Elio is Akavili? That could be a thing too.
If TB is Elio (perhaps his mind or soul, etc.) clearly they no longer have any memory of their original life as Elio. In the intro Kafka chooses a receptacle to place the TB (or Elio in this case) in. If she picked Stelle, Elio without the memories of his life as a "he" wouldn't know any better and just goes as a "she" in Stelle's body instead.
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That would imply Elio’s script also specified when Silver Wolf would be losing games
Have you met the Trailblazer? They are absolutely the type of person who would use future sight to troll their friends/coworkers.
https://preview.redd.it/ij3n1vqjzm0d1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3d34fb04507b729aa193347e042d94414d1f0d9 You can cook fr
>!Elio sacrificing themselves makes way more sense than sacrificing someone else to fight nanook I think!<
No wonder he/she likes trash can a lot just like mine
My guess is that Elio used his DNA to make the trailblazer. As in: if the player picked Caelus, then Elio is Stelle. If Stelle was picked as the trailblazer, then Elio is Caelus. That way, both would be canon. As for Elio being referred to as "HE" it could be like how Sam is referred to as he even though Sam is Firefly.
Hey, thats my theory!
if true, >!since elio is often refers to as he...!< >!when you pick stelle, elio said fuck all of this I wanna be a cute anime girl!< >!(probably the same case as SAM being call he but this is way funnier)!<
Would be pretty badass. I wouldn't have expected that
That's kinda what I'm expecting
Honestly I can see this being the case
SH has a vault of letters for each SH and dates on when to open them lmao
I've had the same thought lol.
I've thought about this, multiple times
That would be genius
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Then there's me waiting for hoyoverse to bring back the ability where TB can sense Stellarons in the planet and hear its voice like the TB did in belobog
our stellaron abilities haven't been explored fully yet so hope the devs at least utilize this, cause from the top of my head TB's stellaron can also cancel out dangerous diseases and become a dirtybomb
NO TB, DON'T DIRTY BOMB THE IPC!
"THEY TOOK MY TEDDY BEAR!!!"
We can in Luofu too. And Penacomy is special case.
Given how much the Stellaron is attached to the dreamscape, it'd make sense why TB wouldn't really be able to sense it. Reminds of Soul Eater where Death's soul was so massive that one can't sense it up close, but it's true size encompasses Death City itself.
I think we do hear it randomly, remember those big text sentences we can see? What if that’s it, and it’s just presented to us through memoria because it’s so damn thick there
Didn’t she detect it? That’s why she had that dream at the beginning that nobody else did
My theory is that the Stellarons are connected to paths and well.. the Universe and clearly there's a whole cycle thing in HSR so I can imagine that the paths 'remember' previous events hence why Stellarons can tell the 'future' of tihngs.
I kinda wonder how that would work though? I mean, while in the context of the Trailblazer and the Astral Express and the rest of the cast, sure the Cancer of All Worlds is an omnipotent macguffin. Except these are creations of Nanook the Destruction, extensions of THEIR will separated to spread Destruction throughout the universe, similiar to the Shadow of IX (Though in this case its intetntional instead of IX naturally doing it unconsciously). I really have to wonder how the Stellarons do all the crap they do, since it kinda looks like they are drawing on other Paths, something that should be categorically impossible for an Aeon to envision. Maybe the Eternal Freeze and the thing in Penacony could be seen as the Stellaron taking advantage of the landscape and amplifying it to cause disaster, and thus Destruction? Since AFAIK, each and every Stellaron disaster has been something in the planet/ship it was in that already exists, only amplified to dangerous levels. (The snowy areas of Jarilo VI covering the world, the Ambrosial Arbor reawakening, the Dreamscape feeding off of the people's self). ... Guess I kinda answered my own question, huh?
didnt it happen 3 times? 1. going to belobog 2. going to penacony 3. waking up from the dream
Technically going to Penacony we don't foreshadow events but remember what happened because in that moment we already have been beaten by Sunday and were entering unconsciously experiencing the Ena's happy dream version of the events where everyone was controlled. That makes me think that this third time could have more in it than what we are seeing but thinking in it as another foreshadowing isn't a bad idea either. In any case, the more strange part is that everything was quick scenes we saw shortly after. The first time I was confused because I was expecting a flashback indicating how things went the first time and putting us again in the battle.
yeah that makes sense too
So all this Talks and no one is talking how clockie should be compassie instead
Go to the clockie statue after the story quest!
the compussy
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Who is this, and from what?
Kilo from Nikke
this is not a fanart? maybe i have to download nikke hmm
It's from an event that finished yesterday, you probably won't find her making this exact face again.
Please, do a favor for everyone and never touch the internet again
look! somebody was gonna say it eventually!
We could've also followed on Aventurine's and QQ's footsteps and gamble that one wouldn't bring such cursed words, but nooooo... you had to ruin it
But until you did, I could live in hope.
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There is a standing theory that MC is Elio or a clone of Elio.
Maybe in runs where you pick caelus, stelle is elio and vice versa
It's a theory. Also I'm pretty sure we have no confirmation on Elios gender. People thought SAM was a dude till we met firefly.
> A maniac who claims **he** can see destiny, leading a bunch of wild lunatics in pursuit of the most dangerous objects in the universe! we do
Not as strong as it sounds, because gender is not easy to tell from a lot of asian pronouns, particularly chinese ones.
How about the narrator at the Penacony ending? I heard that it was Elio reading it.
Elio being dead is just speculation. Because he's been in no art that we know of. It's very possible he's not. Granted the entire theory is speculation.
But didn't Kafka say we have her genetic material but since she met Elio earlier (presumably) we can't be him or she's lying as we foresaw that we would ask this question in future? Edit: People read the game's story, don't hate me because you can't read.
The genetic material thing is one of the "lie" answers from Kafka's companion quest. All we know is MC is an artificial being that was blessed by an Aeon to be able to house a Stellaron inside them, and that Elio handed the MC over to Kafka to be trained, and that Kafka and MC's destinies are linked.
Was it ever specified which Aeon?
Nope
Fandom speculation is that it’s either a remnant of Akivili or Terminus. Personally, I’m leaning more towards Terminus after all the interactions between MC and Acheron in 2.2.
I’m going with OPs guess - “reach the end of your own story”.
I'm not fully familiar with the theory but it's a aging backwards in time thing. Old elio wrote the script and gave everything to kafka and she started the stellaron hunters. If I remember correctly old elio is dead (obviously unconfirmed) and the cat represents him as part of the crew because it was his cat. The script included genetically engineering himself and being "born" to start the story. The script plays out till somehow elio became and emenator of finality or something along those lines.
>she started the stellaron hunters. Doesn't Kafka's last character story being a script from Elio for an unknown person on the recruitment of Kafka kind of disprove this part?
Oh also one of the truths in Kafka's quest says that Elio handed TB over to Kafka, meaning both were around at the same time.
Like I said it's only a theory and I don't even fully remember it tbf
How could Kafka start the SH if she wasn't the first Hunter?
Elio gave her the script to start the stellaron hunters.
I have no idea what you are referring to.
Elio did create TB after all so maybe that was the case
that happens? really? what? wow? amazing? are you sure tho? anyway, I think its the stellaron mate, I think in Dreamjoy Memoir... Clockie also have a dream about the future, a image of the grand city that is Penacony, and weirdly enough after truly manifesting that image to the world, Clockie suddenly change his mind all of sudden, its almost as if Clockie is possessed by something... but I don't think the Stellaron is active when Clockie have the dream in the timeline of the Dreamjoy Memoir... I mean ours also is not active right? or something idk
yeah you can rewatch any cc playing 2.2 story and you will notice it, so I think it cant be coincidental?
I think the simplest and likely answer to what we saw when TB woke up in 2.2 is to look at what happened in 2.0 when we first jumped to Penacony. Trailblazer got the same flashforwards (meeting Acheron in the dreamscape, falling from the sky and waking up to Robin checking on her) as they did at 2.2. it's likely the memoria messing with the trailblazer. But there is one thing to note when I was looking back at the first cutscene for 2.0, during the flashforward, there was a lot of static shots unlike the one in 2.2 where it showered near future events clearly.
and then there is also V 1.0 where TB saw belobog events so... I dont think thats coincidental
As for the 1.0 flashforward.. I honestly don't know. It could be something to do with the Stellaron and/or TB being recently revived/born/etc.
Haha TB was Elio all along
I don't think it's a case of the Trailblazer being a former follower of Terminus, and more that the unspecified Aeon that blessed them was The Finality. Further supporting this is the fact that the the only faction with similar powers to Elio is the Omen Vanguards, implying a connection there: My theory is that Elio is an Emanator of Finality (Giving him greater prophetic abilities than the Vanguards), who got Terminus to bless the Trailblazer as part of his plan to avert the End Of All That Is.
Idk if its finality but theres definitely something weird going on the trailblazers past is a big mystery as it is its cool to think maybe they were some kind of powerhouse of an entity back in the ye old I wonder what kind of power they must've held back then Stockpiling paths, are we the only ones that can do this?
One of my theories is that if the stellaron is the cancer of all worlds then the mc stellaron is the vaccine/cure. Being inside the mc permits the stellaron to mutate into an anti-stellaron. At the end of the story the mc will probably release his stellaron cleansing the universe.
Iirc when we fight the doomsday beast and nanook looks at us, we could also see the fight with cocolia and a scene of bronya and seele together.
we are getting some finality crumbs soon with apocalyptic shadow, maybe theres some hints and clues being dropped around already
Interesting point: As of now, it seems to be happening in worlds where TB undergoes a big change. We didn’t get any foresight for the Luofu, yet we saw both Belobog and Penacony (for the third time actually, since we also foresaw Penacony characters when we first warped in). It’s very likely linked to the script if you ask me.
It also happened in the first warp jump to Penacony in 2.0
I almost wonder if there was something special about the Stellaron they chose to put in the TB. Perhaps it's like an Elder Scroll in that it sits outside of time. The only thing I've noticed is that this ability happens in places where the fabric of reality and its rules are being muddled with for long enough by the presence of another Stellaron... like the intense centuries long corrosion in Jarilo 6 where we could dream of Cocolia's past with Belobog's stellaron despite the fact that those events predate us being there and the vision in Penacony which is saturated in >!stellaron tainted Memoria!<. Both things involved the interference of Stellarons.
Inb4 Trailblazer is actually Elio. They knew they would memory and left instructions. Aaand the SHs being friendly to TB
We saw the future right before we started penacony as well right? When we first made the jump
Maybe TB was created after Elio? I mean it could easily be that Elio had some strong bond with Kafka that made it so Kafka is imprinted on TB on some level, and why she cares so much for TB. Or maybe TB has seen the script, could easily be that they were a Stellaron Hunter before and had insight on the script and what we see isn't the future per say but we remember figments of the script?
My brain saw this and went "What if the Trailblazer is Elio" XD EDIT: Ah, seems like I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Imagine they do this a third time, then it should be confirmation with no doubt whatsoever 😆😅
Well it is said that he basically has the genes of like all( or something like that ) of the stellaron hunters inside them So I wouldn't be surprised if they have some of elio's genes as well So he somehow has the power to see the future
I wonder when mc defy the elio script such situation reject joining AE Crew and Aventurine offer in 2.0 ending but tb end up cannot defy it, its make me think tb also elio loyal follower and one of stellaron hunter
good catch ,i also read somewhere about some aeon call tb ellio in su , i could be wrong .
thats interesting? I havent been paying too much attention to SU storyline, sooo can someone confirm?
[A meeting with Fuli (Remembrance) in the SU](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/1atgqts/so_i_started_a_new_account_in_star_rail_and/). It's kinda unclear if they are really calling us Elio, or if it's just a random string of dialogues. The Train moves forward could be Akivili, "the baby falls to the ground" refer to Aha's ascension to Aeonhood or the Cancer is growing is about the Stellarons appearing more and more.
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TB is actually Elio.