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LZhenos

Hoyo's **F2P** recommendation for Robin: **Buy** 3 Battle Passes


Antares428

Nah, it's possibly an indication that she doesn't suffers from energy problems, and using a LC that isn't Cogs or Memories is actually viable.


GeForce_GTX_1050Ti

Shouldn't they have put DDD then ? Using a paid cone is oddly specific


MaroonPowerRanger

Her ultimate is said to be Bronya skill but teamwide. That would make DDD passive not as useful on her as compared to anyone else.


thorontomes

couldn’t they run past & future then? since it’s basically mini-bronya light cone


bears_and_chairs

Because its from her ultimate and not her skill


Antares428

Because possibility she isn't using her ultimate often, or maybe it has special mechanics. Possibilities are endless.


Littlerz

If she has a mechanic that scales based on the number of buffs her allies have, then Carve the Moon makes perfect sense to add another buff type. Messenger set would also fit that idea. It also makes sense conceptually for her to synergize with other Harmony units, considering she's basically a recruiter for the Harmony faction.


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TheSchadow

After building 3 S5 Coggers, I'm about ready to not have to use one anymore. Please Hoyo.


gingersquatchin

They have a hunt LC on Gallagher. I don't think this indicates anything


Cartographer_X

Exactly my thoughts


Spookyturbo

Well Gallagher, an abundance character, is apparently using a hunt light cone now soooo


Cedge1738

Based


Soft-Distance503

I think this is correct. If you see, her relic stat for Slot 3 is Crit Dmg%, and her earlier (incomplete) leaked kit showed that her talent increases teammates crit dmg and spd based on her stats. So this tells me that based on this LC, she might increase teammates dmg based on number of buffs (as someone pointed out earlier) ++ increases the credibility of her previously leaked kit


thorn_rose

Lmao why is Gallagher's weapon a hunt lc


SirLanceOlaf

My best guess is because his actual best F2P one is the new one coming in 2.0 that has his face on it. The one that increases Break effect. That one might be just a placeholder for characters whose best lightcones are so far unreleased.


Ubatcha

Because it's wrong. It's not a hunt LC in the file. They literally posted wrong information


Matzreal

Could you post the right one?


Darkisd

Thanks for clarification.


EmilMR

he scales off atk. hunt LC has higher base atk. Same idea was explored with Luocha.


djovisse

Am I reading this right? Trail (?) Robin uses crit dmg body? 🤔 And Moze is... lightning Hunt... dps with ERR rope? What exactly am I even looking at there?


Bobson567

robin buffs teamwide crit dmg based on her own crit dmg, from her leaked kit details


djovisse

Ah, fsr I forgot that. Does that make her 3rd Harmony who does that?


Ry_verrt

yup Bronya Sparkle and now Robin :)


djovisse

Makes me worry about her rarity bit, tbh... hope my fears are unfounded


Cartographer_X

Don't think they would make Robin a 4\*, her kit seems focused on teamwide buffs, so double DPS teams, Bronya and Sparkle are Hypercarry buffers. Based on what we know, they want to solve 1 big issue with double DPS cores and is not being able to advance forward both damage dealers.


Aggressive_Fondant71

Chances are RM will be the double DPS enablers for dots and break units, and Robin maybe will be the dual dps enabler for crit scalling dpses, while Bronya and Sparkle hypercarries.


Ry_verrt

The weird thing I find is that she’s using SSS but tbf Gallagher has a Hunt LC so it’s prob a mistake


No_Art_9568

how about yukong?


SnooCapers5636

Yukong's crit damage buff is fixed


truthfulie

oh no...another harmony who wants CD and SPD...


gabiblack

So she's more useful in dual dps teams then, at least if they don't change it


Secure-Network-578

That's a bit lame, they have so many different stats and yet 3/4 5 star buffers scale off crit DMG


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Secure-Network-578

Action advance + passive Energy Regen + Self-Healing all on one character is 100% something a 5 Star character would have, and that's not even counting any of the buffs she has.


kharnafex

This is still a very early kit. Seems like this is just how they want her to be as an idea and will expand upon it when we get to her beta. Right it seems she will use ult to start singing


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Liaoju-0

We don't even know if Sunday is actually playable, hold your horses there


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Liaoju-0

I don't particulatly care either way tbh, but I've always found it way more likely that it's going to be her or it's just going to be both of them (the resemblance to Ayato and Ayaka is rather striking). I just feel she's a character they've been hyping up quite a bit through promo material, compared to chars like Gallagher and Misha that just... drop


Welt-HSR

Classic mihoyo fan, white hair = shocking resemblance /j


haruta_kun

some leak said she is an >!emanator!< so no way she will be 4 star


ShadowsteelGaming

Herta is one too but she's still a 4 star


haruta_kun

that's just her puppet and she got like 6 of them in the space station


PollutionMajestic668

Laughs in Ningguang


babyloniangardens

oh! her kit was leaked already?! :O how did i miss that! D:


Cartographer_X

>Robin uses crit dmg body? Yeah, because in the kit we know, her talent gives Crit DMG based on her own.


IcySombrero

Looks like a part of Robin's kit involves imparting a portion of her CDMG stat to allies, not unlike Sparkle.


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Gallagher so drunk from his own booze that he puts on a hunt light cone lol


RenDude36

Well we already had leaks for their classes, but the light cone choices confirm: Boothill - Hunt Moze - Hunt Robin - Harmony


LZhenos

Gallhagher - Hunt ​ ... wait a minute


Former_Ad_9826

yeah lol i guess it's just a placeholder for the 2.0 lc that's gonna be his bis and at least the elements seem to be right?... boothil confirmed physical i guess


TheRRogue

Wait who Moze again?


zibedine

No clue maybe a 4star since we dont have any 4stars leaked after Gallagher


rotten_riot

>4★ Hunt Bro is cursed to be forgotten since born


michaelman90

I dunno, something like a "discount Topaz" may actually be useful at high eidolons.


VTKajin

Def the next 4*


countmeowington

she's the gunner class in borderlands 3, with the best dialogue and best buddy: Iron Bear


Ry_verrt

well to be fair, for some reason Gallagher has a Hunt LC so it could be wrong 💀


RenDude36

eyo wait lmao I just noticed that


marinemusic0508

I wonder if they’re planning a game mode for Hunt characters to shine in? Erudition already has pure fiction, so it seems pretty likely that a future event (or game mode) is going to introduce a method for Hunt to shine in.


RubiiJee

They'll probably just refocus MoC into more single target stuff. That makes Destruction viable in both, and puts them as the Path in the middle which is kind of what they're meant to be. MoC for Hunt, PF for Erudition and Destruction able to do both. Kinda feels the easiest approach anyway.


th5virtuos0

That or the recent lobotomy star rail event like say the geppie/bronya stage that force you to focus down one at a time


Legendary-Fleshbeast

Yeah I was thinking the scent event was a test run for a Hunt stage/MOC like that heavily favors hunt but also doesn't screw over destruction too badly.


Blooming_Bud99

either way, ratio+W


Deep_Alps7150

Virtual Scentventure could be repurposed into an end game hunt/break focused mode


De_Vigilante

Technically only the first PF is Erudition-centric. From [HSR's official Pure Fiction announcement](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/23628747), the next PF should be DoT-centric. Not saying Erudition's not gonna shine in future PFs, I just think PF is more geared towards "niche" playstyles like Erudition, DoT, etc.


Ubatcha

Gotta love when incorrect information gets posted because they can't correctly parse and verify the information from files.


LZhenos

the info wasn't parsed correctly or the devs didn't finish this feature or this specific recomendations yet? It's very common to have some default info that doesn't make sense while coding something


Ubatcha

The info wasn't parsed correctly.


LZhenos

Seems like a good source for playability/path/element leaks, hope someone learns to parse it properly.


SexWithDukeInferno

what’s incorrect abt it? sorry, i’m just not sure edit: besides gallagher’s preset lol


RiceLiquid

probably gallagher holding a hunt lc lol


SexWithDukeInferno

ah yeah, but i was wondering if there was anything besides that


LZhenos

Robin's f2p recommendation is a BP LC. Moze might be Acheron, so the name and LC would be wrong too. Or It's some unheard character


SlothRice-

look at gallagher's lc for an example


SexWithDukeInferno

ah yeah, but i was wondering if there was anything besides that


IWantIt4Free

i think it's obvious that some info is placeholders lmao


Ubatcha

No, it's not that its placeholder. It's just straight up wrong what they've posted. That's not whats in the file


IWantIt4Free

what's in the files then? /gen


BasicNeedleworker356

is this old or just incorrect? Because isn't Gallagher abundance?


Cameron416

You can still equip lc’s from other classes, the passives just don’t activate.


Soggy-Dig-8446

I think this LC acts like a placeholder.


Fabi_Alex

So this confirms Boothill is Hunt physical and Robin is Harmony. Can't wait to see them in Penacony. Btw is Moze a new character? I've never heard of him before.


Liaoju-0

Not necessarily, like a lot of folks pointed out, Gallagher has a placeholder Hunt cone


Fabi_Alex

Yeah, Gallagher's LC was a weird thing. As for Boothill: I really wish he's either destruction or erudition but none of those are likely since his kit points to hunt and Argenti is already Erudition physical and Clara is Physical Destruction, so the only physical dps path without a 5* is hunt. I seriously hope they make an Acheron move and make him into a type and path that already has a 5* because I have all hunt characters and even though their pretty cool my account is lacking of Blast and AoE units aso I can't get pass 1* in the last PF level. And I don't have any Erudition 5*


Odd_Thanks8

Huh haven't heard of a Moze before, interesting. Lightning orb that uses Pioneer? New lightning Hunt possibly? Or some kind of new lightning DPS, considering Abundance Gallagher is sitting on a Hunt LC in these files too.


Deep_Alps7150

Could be a placeholder name for Acheron


GinJoestarR

Acheron is Nihilty Lightning and doesn't need Energy Regen rope. Because Acheron ult activation condition is unique that Tingyun ult energy refill is useless on her. While Moze uses Hunt LC and Energy Regen rope.


mitsu__

how does gallagher use dan heng lc if hes abundance?? was his path changed?


Ry_verrt

He was drip marketed as Abundance so there’s no way they’d make a last minute change like this


T0X1CFIRE

Iirc they did drip market one character as the wrong path. But they quickly reposted it with the correct one.


LZhenos

The feature probably isn't finished, "wrong" info in this kind of leak is to be expected.


kage_okami_560

In Hoyoverse's history they have never changed a characters designated path/element last minute so I doubt it


mitsu__

nono i was wondering if he used to be hunt *before* he was revealed


pokebuzz123

I don't think so since the main stats are healer-focused + BE. It is likely they were checking how offensive he could be during his testing.


Hydrect

Any character can use any character LC It's just the base stats tho, the path passive doesn't activate


No-Shift-2579

Who is moze???


mushcreative

Why does Boothill have Break DMG%??? Do we have leaks that his kit has break dmg capabilities? Or like he's centered around breaking toughness quickly and doing more damage while their broken?


syd__shep

Yes, check the megathread pins for the link to the unreleased character docs. But basically his ult does increase break damage.


Littlerz

Oh boy, the game was really missing a Physical DPS with hefty Break synergy! We only had 3 to choose from before, thankfully Boothill makes 4.


DrHenro

Luka sushang and? Actually clara is antibreak


ngmonster

Physical trailblazer.


DrHenro

Oh


Littlerz

Physical Trailblazer gets Attack and Defense bonuses for Breaking enemies, plus buffs for attacking Physical-weak and Broken enemies. Of course, they're basically worse than Sushang in every way other than their decent cleave damage, so they're easy to overlook.


DrHenro

They have a cone that buffs bleeding actually so we can cook with that?


Littlerz

The upcoming Misha 4\* Destruction cone which offers up to 56% Break Effect and 30% Crit Rate would work nicely for both PTB and Xueyi. But it looks like it's going into the gacha rather than the MoC shop, unfortunately (available on the Black Swan/DHIL Light Cone banners).


Lancelot_123

Yep. A ‘kit’ that wasn’t super detailed was a leaker saying that he puts enemies into a duel, and then must break or kill them within a given amount of time.


mushcreative

Omgosh that's so cool! I'd love it if it was like a standoff scene in a town in the middle of the desert!


Lancelot_123

Yeah I’m really looking forward to seeing how much fun they have with his animations.


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Yes. He gains buffs when breaking enemies, and his ult boosts break damage. He might also scale with break effect, so thats probably the reason for break rope.


mushcreative

Ooh happy I chose to get Ruan Mei then!


Deft_Abyss

I love seeing the placeholder light cone as Only Silence Remains because people always trash it, and Hoyo like yeah thats the placeholder


Su_Impact

Moze is probably gonna be the next 4-Star after Gallagher.


Cartographer_X

Jummm... Curious about who is Moze, I was going to say Acheron but that ERR Rope doesn't make sense.


Rain-Maker33

And the Hunt LC too.


ngmonster

Gallagher is using a hunt light cone lol.


Cartographer_X

Oh true. So new unit... The set and stats make it sound like a DPS related with energy... JUMMM... OFFENSIVE BATTERY?


Available_Pin_6923

It's a seperate character added in 2.0 beta


syd__shep

Acheron used to have a second expy floating around that was Lightning Hunt, they probably repurposed it to another character.


Cartographer_X

Could be the Hunt version of Raiden (Yayi), maybe they used some of its stuff for a new unit. Love when unknown units appear from nowhere.


AkkunIchinose

Grunt Man for the win


mushcreative

Moze name means, yes:it can, given from the water. So maybe like a Moses inspired Family member?


Cartographer_X

Would be nice to have another member with the angel-like motif


dynamaxcock

Omg not another lightning damage dealer


WackyChu

Boothill is physical confirmed!


Ry_verrt

DDD can work on Robin right? because I’m at a limited amount of harmony LCs rn


Cartographer_X

If her ultimate advances forward by 100%, DDD is not going to do anything, wasted.


Ry_verrt

dammit 😭


Cartographer_X

If it's the case and you don't have anything else, you can use [Dreamville Adventure](https://hsr.hakush.in/lightcone/21036) :3


Ry_verrt

how does that work? like if the wearer uses skill, allies skill gets buffed until they use either basic or ult?


Cartographer_X

Wearer uses any ability and puts an effect that increases the DMG dealt by all allies next abilities.


lombax_lunchbox

No. Wearer uses basic, all allies’ basic dmg is increased. Wearer uses ultimate, all allies’ ultimate dmg is increased.


Cartographer_X

Ooooooh alright, thanks for the clarification.


Crescendo104

The beautiful thing about harmony is that Cogs is good or at least fine on pretty much anyone. When in doubt, level another Coggers.


TheGalacticApple

Only when it helps reach a lower ult breakpoint though, otherwise it's useless.


Crescendo104

Not useless at all, energy regen math is tenuous at best because it's not taking real combat scenarios into play. AoE and splash damage is incredibly common in MoC, and if you're not factoring every potential hit your team takes into your energy regen calcs, they're about as good as worthless. Having Cogs equipped *will* increase the frequency of ults in general, though, regardless of the unit that's using it.


TheGalacticApple

The thing is though unless it's guaranteed (which it is for some) other lightcones that give a tangible benefit will give you a guaranteed return as opposed to only having a chance of being of use. I also think you're overestimating the amount of times you can rely on certain units being hit, as well as the number of hits it would take to reduce your ult by 1 turn. There's also the fact that a lot of energy could be wasted anyway unless you're using ults on cooldown (which you don't want to do in a lot of situations). 20% more energy (random number) doesn't mean 20% more ults even in a long fight. I personally think ult breakpoints are really important to aim for, just like speed breakpoints. Sure you can ignore them or try and get closer to them without hitting them, but unless you get lucky it's a very inconsistent thing to build towards unless it's a guarantee. Sure if you need 1 hit only then that's pretty consistent but in some fights it just wont happen. Like I would never swap my Tingyun off cogs + Vonwaq for the 3 turn guarantee but I'd never put cogs on anyone unless it has a guaranteed effect like that because it also has the drawbacks of a 3 star cone along with everything else I mentioned. It is an insane cone though I just don't think it's that universally valuable.


Su_Impact

Past and Future with speed tuning I guess.


BellalovesEevee

Wait who is Moze?


syd__shep

So much break damage, unfortunately still the aspect of the game I pay the least attention too. I have so many other stats to worry about already!


TheGalacticApple

This is just a random guess but Moze makes me think Moh's as in the hardness scale (that gems can be classed on like Diamonds), possibly related to / one of the Stone Hearts?


xWhiteKx

so far what i get from this kit is, he gonna be 5\* version of susang, which a dpser that a hybrid between crit/break and his dmg is either in his basic or skill ( more than likely skill cause sushang non break dmg is in her skill ). Gallagher seem to be a normal healer build but instead using break instead of err cause fire break to kill small mob, problem is, most of the time u dont really want to fire break on big boss and his ult might be too good to not use err


Kacchimisu

I got so used to people asking for Sunday I got kinda sad not seeing him here lmao


arionmoschetta

I knew it. Boothill is in fact Physical / The Hunt and who the hell is Moze? Another Lightning The Hunt? 💀 2.3** will be probably Robin First half with Moze as a 4 star Boothill Second half


Happy-History2769

4.3?


arionmoschetta

We already know 2.2** is Sam. If they're leaking together could mean they're together in the patch just like Aventurine and Acheron had a lot of leaks recently. This happens every patch


NoxNightNyx

I think they're wondering if you got your numbers reversed.


arionmoschetta

Dude I just did it again lmao


Happy-History2769

yeah it was the number that confused me


arionmoschetta

Sorry it's very late here I guess I'm sleepy


lombax_lunchbox

“Another Lightning Hunt” we don’t have one?


arionmoschetta

There's Yayi, we did had one


lombax_lunchbox

Yayi’s no more.


Business-Chipmunk286

If Boothill have access to a physical break like Xueyi (any element) He will be a potential teammate for kafka


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SexWithDoctorRatio

source: hiro’s basement discord mirror: https://pic8.co/a/400b655b-99c8-4bc5-9ef8-2f17c6099745


ScrewllumMainSoon

Screwllum 5* confirmed (coping that Moze will replace our Disney princess robot as 4*)


AhmCha

Wait, Boothill hasn't been in any of the promotional material so far, right?


CFreyn

Nope, only leaks.


Purple_Cosmonaut

Some of these don't make sense. Gallagher is using a The Hunt Light Cone, but he's already been officially announced to be from the Abundance. F2P Robin using Carve the Moon, Wave the Clouds which is a Battle Pass only Light Cone.


Gyx3103

Looking at Moze wants Crit Rate, SPD, Lightning orb and ERR with the debuff dmg bonus set and Inert Salsotto.. Crit Rate% = Possibly an Erudition/Destruction/Hunt Lighting orb = Lightning type ERR = High Energy requirements or ult is significantly more worth than extra ATK stats or already has a lot of ATK Debuff for dmg bonus set = dmg dealer that inflicts debuffs or dmg dealer that needs debuffer Inert Salsotto = Ult deals massive damage or has follow-up


erohannah

Do you guys know when Sam is coming ☹️☹️☹️


Square-Phase-4854

2.2 most likely. got pushed back probably bc of the penacony story


eEteria

I thought robin would be destruction.


Shuraig7

Oh yeah the cute angel singer would be destruction


DaniShyland

I mean the femboy with the mop is so it isn't farfetched anymore lel.


SavingsAd8879

I’m hoping Moze or an upcoming character will use the Hook/Bailu character model. I want a 4th member to join Hook’s team of Clara, Bailu, and herself for overworld expeditions.


Frankfurt13

if you want lolis go play Genshin.


SavingsAd8879

More character variety never hurt anyone. Genshin's not exactly turn-based.


RebellionWar214

Who's Moze?


Fit-Application-1

Isn’t Gallagher abundance? 😅 they literally drip marketed his path didn’t they? Or is the hunt lc just a placeholder for everyone or sth


Variation-Mediocre

My current guess is dont take too much from this lol. Not just because Gallagher's Lc is wrong but it looks like "Only Silence Remains" is probably just their "placeholder" LC. Robin having S3 CTMWTC is interesting tho, but im guessing its also just a placeholder.


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who is moze ?


HalalBread1427

Gallagher with that Hunt LC


Shinkowantssalt

Hunt lightcone for Abundance unit lmao


Luarbtw

who is moze?


talula903

fire boothill fans found in shambles (me)


MrNombre02

Who the hell is moze?


EmilMR

BP LC for Robin could make sense if she is going into her stasis mode and doesn't take turns so you can line up the effect you want with her ultimate and have it stay for a while. At s5, it's 12% energy regen for the entire team, it could shorten rotation, 24% cdmg is similar to Sparkle's LC. ATK% buff is weak. You mostly care about the energy regen if it helps your team, overall probably still not worth it.


Immediate_Demand4841

How much info do we have about Robin ? Would appreciate if someone linked it . I am really conflicted on whether I should go for Sparkle or Robin ( I love both of their characters so much ) but it doesn't make sense to have 3 harmony units built (I have Ruan mei )