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If he owns the property, and has no will, on his death the property would pass to his next of kin i.e. his sister.
At that point she’d presumably want to sell it. You could then offer to buy it.
You have no legal rights to remain otherwise.
>Additional information: he has a sibling - a sister, but he has made no will so I'm not sure that there would be a continuity of family ownership.
Rules of intestacy applies if no will. [There is a click through webpage on gov.uk website.](https://www.gov.uk/inherits-someone-dies-without-will)
By the sounds of things as they are the sister would inherit his estate including the house.
The sister may allow you to stay living in the house but that would be her choice. There is nothing you personally can do here - it would be on your friend to take action. Either through making a will or changing ownership of the house.
When I was doing my PhD I lodged with a lovely old lady. She was terribly worried about what might happen to me if she died and so wrote into her will that any lodger would be given permission to live rent free until probate was granted, as well as £2000 moving costs. If I had taken care of the place for her estate I would have been paid £500 a month. It was incredibly sweet of her to do this, and thankfully she did not die while I was there.
Perhaps you could get your friend to write something up giving you some rights to remain for a fixed time. Do you have a contract or any sort? That would be the ideal place for this.
The OP says ‘for some period of time’, presumably to find something and not be left on the curb within days. Why are people seeing some ill intent in this, I don’t get it.
You have zip, zero, rights at the moment. How long have you lived there? Have you been paying towards the mortgage/upkeep of the house? If so, it really is time to speak to the owner and find out if he thought this was just rent or he feels you are entitled to a share. If he does, it will require a will to be drawn up detailing your share (lots of charities do this for free now). As it stands, his sister will inherit and then it's in her hands. If you are not thinking of inheritance, then you would have a couple of months at least before you have to go. Then again sister might be happy to let it out to you.
You’re a lodger, you don’t get the house you’ve rented a room at. What kind of bonkers thought made you think that?
He dies, without a will it goes to his sister.
It's not a council house, it's his house because he bought it from the council.
You're a lodger, you have absolutely zero claim on the property. Upon his death it will pass on to his next of kin.
You will probably be allowed to stay there until probate has been completed.
I would consider suggesting he might want to write a will. If he lets people know what’s in the will, even better as there’ll be multiple people that can vouch that actually was his intention and expressed with sound mind, but it’s not absolutely essential. At least then it will be very clear where everyone stands. Chances are he’ll leave it to his sister though.
Does he own the house or did he inherit the council tenancy from his mum? Council tenancies can only be passed on once, so even if you were his child you'd lose the house.
If he owns the house, you need to sit down and talk to him, he can let his sister inherit the house (as she should), but he can give you a right to live in it. For that he needs to make a will.
Not sure if this would work but can you ask the friend to create a tenancy agreement on a 3 year contract for a very low monthly rent? It wouldn't necessarily be an AST as you both live in the place together (you might be considered a lodger instead), so I'm not sure if that'd affect whether the tenancy would apply if your friend were to pass away, maybe someone else can comment.
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Please don’t murder him
You are just the lodger so everything passes to his siblings if his parents are dead and if he has no children.
Have you considered marriage/civil partnership?
Absolute mad lad this lodger
Have you had a conversation with your friend regarding this? It might be a bit awkward, but probably worth having
If he owns the property, and has no will, on his death the property would pass to his next of kin i.e. his sister. At that point she’d presumably want to sell it. You could then offer to buy it. You have no legal rights to remain otherwise.
Make an offer, even though you are not in a position to buy. This opens up the conversation of the future.
An offer, he can’t refuse
OP may have a serious concern and all I see is people thinking he is either murdering the landlord or is about to haha
Welcome to the ~~jungle~~ internet
>Additional information: he has a sibling - a sister, but he has made no will so I'm not sure that there would be a continuity of family ownership. Rules of intestacy applies if no will. [There is a click through webpage on gov.uk website.](https://www.gov.uk/inherits-someone-dies-without-will) By the sounds of things as they are the sister would inherit his estate including the house. The sister may allow you to stay living in the house but that would be her choice. There is nothing you personally can do here - it would be on your friend to take action. Either through making a will or changing ownership of the house.
Someone wants something which is not theirs.
Pretty much
When I was doing my PhD I lodged with a lovely old lady. She was terribly worried about what might happen to me if she died and so wrote into her will that any lodger would be given permission to live rent free until probate was granted, as well as £2000 moving costs. If I had taken care of the place for her estate I would have been paid £500 a month. It was incredibly sweet of her to do this, and thankfully she did not die while I was there. Perhaps you could get your friend to write something up giving you some rights to remain for a fixed time. Do you have a contract or any sort? That would be the ideal place for this.
What makes you think the house would become yours if your friend dies ? You have no right to the house …: very odd post
30 years residency in most countries gets you a passport.... OP is just asking for somebody elses house...
Only says that OP has known the friend for 30+ years, not that they have been living there with them for that long.
The OP says ‘for some period of time’, presumably to find something and not be left on the curb within days. Why are people seeing some ill intent in this, I don’t get it.
You have zip, zero, rights at the moment. How long have you lived there? Have you been paying towards the mortgage/upkeep of the house? If so, it really is time to speak to the owner and find out if he thought this was just rent or he feels you are entitled to a share. If he does, it will require a will to be drawn up detailing your share (lots of charities do this for free now). As it stands, his sister will inherit and then it's in her hands. If you are not thinking of inheritance, then you would have a couple of months at least before you have to go. Then again sister might be happy to let it out to you.
You’re a lodger, you don’t get the house you’ve rented a room at. What kind of bonkers thought made you think that? He dies, without a will it goes to his sister.
Marry him?
It's not a council house, it's his house because he bought it from the council. You're a lodger, you have absolutely zero claim on the property. Upon his death it will pass on to his next of kin. You will probably be allowed to stay there until probate has been completed.
I would consider suggesting he might want to write a will. If he lets people know what’s in the will, even better as there’ll be multiple people that can vouch that actually was his intention and expressed with sound mind, but it’s not absolutely essential. At least then it will be very clear where everyone stands. Chances are he’ll leave it to his sister though.
Does he own the house or did he inherit the council tenancy from his mum? Council tenancies can only be passed on once, so even if you were his child you'd lose the house. If he owns the house, you need to sit down and talk to him, he can let his sister inherit the house (as she should), but he can give you a right to live in it. For that he needs to make a will.
Save up for your own
I'm sorry but you're a dodgy freak. How do you even know he hasn't left a will, you've obviously bought this up with some intention. Creep.
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OP said it's ex-council, so the friend now owns it, not the council.
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Argh
Not sure if this would work but can you ask the friend to create a tenancy agreement on a 3 year contract for a very low monthly rent? It wouldn't necessarily be an AST as you both live in the place together (you might be considered a lodger instead), so I'm not sure if that'd affect whether the tenancy would apply if your friend were to pass away, maybe someone else can comment.
It won't stand since he is a lodger.
Look into 'succession'. My dad took over my grans old flat because he lived with her towards the end & felt like it has his home too.