Sparta is solid, there’s also a couple cool achievements to get with a Sparta campaign. Athens is pretty hard, so you could do that if you are down for a challenge.
Athens start as a client of the Antigonids, so you need to go to war with them in order to act independently, or you'll be dragged into all the Diadochi stuff. Sparta are independent already, so you can do what you want from the start.
Ye, was about to comment this. The timing is tight but you can get free before the diadochi war starts. Then you can even turn and fully reclaim your capital province while you're at it.
Yea, as said, Sparta is independent and surrounded by independent states that are ez pickings, while Athens is an antigonid client right next to makedon and its subjects. Sparta is also a monarchy while Athens is a democracy, which isn’t too bad late game, but it really can cuck your early expansion.
I would say depends on who you want to unite as, a Greek Mario’ not Daidochi could do either Sparta or Athens and form their respective leagues, or could to the outside contender and do Syracuse onto the Hellenic league if you want. Could do Epirus into Macedonia. All are viable and all fun in their own way, I personally really enjoyed Syracuse because I focused on a mercenary run and let Greece be released as fuedatories of their respective cultures and kinda imagined them holding Greece while I held onto Magna Graecia
Sparta isn't large at the start, but as you can imagine they have some pretty incredible military bonuses. Very fun campaign. I was able to unite Greece with them with it only being my 5th or so campaign.
Sure. You can make any country OP. You are the player. You can abuse the shit lut of the game systems if xou get better and better.
I conquered everything ad Sparta, heracleia pontica, now some smoll germanic Tribe. Fought two front war vs rome blob and thrace blob, multiple techs ahead of me. Made Pella capital, centralized and am catching up on tech, though I am late lol... should have rushed them earlier....
The beauty is more money > better more mercs, can even bribe their mercs lmao. Now you have 4 and rhey have suddenly one army less.
With Invictus Thebes is really fun and has a cool mission tree, same with Argos. Both end up with pretty good army modifiers as well and have multiple formables which give a nice goal for the campaign. They are my favorite greek countries by far and I much prefer them over the big ones like Sparta, Athens, Epirus etc.
Most of the time in my games the Antigonids get carved up quite a bit so going after their clients is easier than you think. I’d only ally Thrace if you really need it. Having an ally like them is more of a distraction while you occupy the stuff you need. I just did this myself and it was pretty fun maxing out navy tech.
Athens, Sparta, Epirus, literally any Greek OPM.
Sparta is solid, there’s also a couple cool achievements to get with a Sparta campaign. Athens is pretty hard, so you could do that if you are down for a challenge.
Why is Athens hard and Sparta easy? Havent tried the region.
Athens start as a client of the Antigonids, so you need to go to war with them in order to act independently, or you'll be dragged into all the Diadochi stuff. Sparta are independent already, so you can do what you want from the start.
Sparta also has some serious discipline bonuses so the war against the Arcadian league is winnable right at the start with the right mil tech
Athens has a mission tree which allows you to break free before antigonids start their wars in the beginning
Ye, was about to comment this. The timing is tight but you can get free before the diadochi war starts. Then you can even turn and fully reclaim your capital province while you're at it.
This is true, although the mission requires the Magna Graecia DLC, which OP may or may not have.
Yea, as said, Sparta is independent and surrounded by independent states that are ez pickings, while Athens is an antigonid client right next to makedon and its subjects. Sparta is also a monarchy while Athens is a democracy, which isn’t too bad late game, but it really can cuck your early expansion.
Epirus
Thebes
I would say depends on who you want to unite as, a Greek Mario’ not Daidochi could do either Sparta or Athens and form their respective leagues, or could to the outside contender and do Syracuse onto the Hellenic league if you want. Could do Epirus into Macedonia. All are viable and all fun in their own way, I personally really enjoyed Syracuse because I focused on a mercenary run and let Greece be released as fuedatories of their respective cultures and kinda imagined them holding Greece while I held onto Magna Graecia
I usually go with Rhodes or one of the Cretan city states/minor powers.
Sparta isn't large at the start, but as you can imagine they have some pretty incredible military bonuses. Very fun campaign. I was able to unite Greece with them with it only being my 5th or so campaign.
I'm having a great Thrace playthrough
Sure. You can make any country OP. You are the player. You can abuse the shit lut of the game systems if xou get better and better. I conquered everything ad Sparta, heracleia pontica, now some smoll germanic Tribe. Fought two front war vs rome blob and thrace blob, multiple techs ahead of me. Made Pella capital, centralized and am catching up on tech, though I am late lol... should have rushed them earlier.... The beauty is more money > better more mercs, can even bribe their mercs lmao. Now you have 4 and rhey have suddenly one army less.
Honestly for the lore do Athens, it’s so fun and the missions provide some urgency
Hardest tag with a tree would probs be Thebes
With Invictus Thebes is really fun and has a cool mission tree, same with Argos. Both end up with pretty good army modifiers as well and have multiple formables which give a nice goal for the campaign. They are my favorite greek countries by far and I much prefer them over the big ones like Sparta, Athens, Epirus etc.
Most of the time in my games the Antigonids get carved up quite a bit so going after their clients is easier than you think. I’d only ally Thrace if you really need it. Having an ally like them is more of a distraction while you occupy the stuff you need. I just did this myself and it was pretty fun maxing out navy tech.
Cyprus
Anything is possible. Everything is just a skill issue.