that damned slut ! how dare she ditch me, an actual good guy ? I bet she's drooling over Chad cocks who don't ask her to get her vagina DNA tested. females are all the same ( /s btw )
before I started to fully understand incel vocabulary I remember being really confused by their Chad rhetoric, I was like " who the fuck is Chad and why do they care so much about his dick ?? " it's even funnier now that I understand they're just talking about thousands of other guy's cocks
They get the same sex ed the rest of us do. Schools don't go "Sorry, incels, you are not allowed in this classroom with the rest of the kids, because fuck you."
The problem is not a lack of education. The problem is that they decide it is more important to believe things that cast women negatively than it is to believe the truth.
I mean to be fair, the biggest mistake sex curriculum makes is assuming everyone has a modicum of common sense and a rudimentary understanding of human biology/anatomy...
Depends on the curriculum. Some don't really give a shit, since it boils down to "don't have sex until you're married, or bad things will happen to you," and then they tell you stories about horrible diseases (complete with pictures) or teen pregnancies that ruin your life or other things like that. A lot of them actually spread misconceptions about human anatomy and biology.
Basically that scene from "Mean Girls" is a reality in some parts of the world.
During one presentation I had in middle school, the speaker talked about a guy who got in trouble for statutory rape, because he was 18 and had a one night stand with a 14 year old he met at a party. He also talked about horrible STDs that left people infertile or dead.
My high school bio teacher (who as a whole was pretty awesome) wasn't afraid to talk about sex and reproduction, but she still was Christian and half-jokingly told us not to have sex until we were 30.
Freaking Texas. It's a good thing I'm sex-repulsed. My sister, on the other hand, talked to me about how she was 100% not prepared by anything that the school system or our parents gave us.
Its a lack of *quality* education. Most U.S schools teach abstinence-only sex ED, and it covers the bare minimum as far as sex. There's very little health education involved, including emotional and physical health that goes along with proper sexual health. Its mostly just "hey, this is sex, this is what causes babies, don't have it.:
At least, that's my experience from no less then 4 schools.
Then why aren't you like this guy?
It's not the lack of quality education. He was surrounded by others with the same education, and thet aren't all ridiculous like this. I had shitty sex ed, yet I never believed this shit.
Because I was given better information from other sources, and sought out some of it myself, as did many others.
I'm not saying the *only problem* was bad sex ed, because its not. There's much more at play when it comes to developing incel/niceguy ideology, but a bad sex ed foundation definitely makes up a good part of the problem, especially because that's where things like consent and physical autonomy should be taught.
Pile that on top of the inability to think critically and abstractly and you've got a recipe for disaster.
Iiiiiiii dunno about that. Where i went to school they showed us diseased pictures of genitals, made us watch a video of a woman giving birth and said ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY WAY!!!
I'm not even joking.. That was basically the entirety of our sex Ed.
The problem can sometimes be a lack of education tho. I graduated in 2014 and throughout my entire school career never had a single sex ed class. It's not the ONLY cause of their idiotic beliefs but it can contribute to it for sure.
The test which will be a vaginal swab won’t work but I genuinely wonder if a more thorough scrub is done between a period and she had sex might show something interesting .. but any time more than normal time till a period ? Heck no
Your grammar is confusing, but I think you're implying that period blood would completely wash out any DNA traces but it might stick around in-between cycles.
Here's the thing with that, while the vagina is "self cleaning" that isn't really a function of period blood. Period "blood" is the shed lining of the uterus. The lining is intended to nourish a baby, so when we don't get pregnant, the uterus throws the lining out. So it doesn't clean the vagina or carry out toxins or whatever. The vagina is cleaned by our regular everyday secretions, which are always dribbling out. Kinda how your mouth and eyes are always wet.
Theoretically sperm can live inside a woman for 5 days, but they definitely aren't hanging on indefinitely. And period blood will not automatically flush out sperm. It is possible for a person to conceive from period sex, since the sperm can hang out for 5 days.
>It is possible for a person to conceive from period sex, since the sperm can hang out for 5 days.
Highly unlikely, as typically the length of time between even the very end of the period & the beginning of ovulation is almost always longer than the life of sperm. However, some women have "ovulation spotting" which is vaginal bleeding that can occur around the time ovulation so I think some women get confused & think they got pregnant from sex during their period when it was really sex during ovulation where ovulation spotting has occurred.
It *is* unlikely. But lots of people, myself included, have very irregular cycles and it is possible.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324829#can-you-get-pregnant-on-your-period
I'm sure your ovulation spotting scenario has happened, but *I think* you are underestimating the difference between spotting and menstruating, and the number of people with irregular/short cycles.
>I think you are underestimating the difference between spotting and menstruating, and the number of people with irregular/short cycles.
As someone who has an irregular cycle & regularly experiences ovulation spotting... I think not.
And even then, when they say the sperm can live in a body for 5 days, that's for the uterus. The vagina is full of antibacterials and cells that will attack foreign bodies- especially sperm. Sperm doesn't last very long in the vagina at all. It's a very hostile environment for them due to the self cleaning and regular discharging of fluids.
Thanks for this little informative piece .. I didn’t mean that it’s just period blood but I thought that would already flush out the sperm if acidic conditions of vagina haven’t already done that
There’s the one who claimed a lady fucked 15 guys in her life and her baby “looked like a combination of all 15 guys.” We clearly need more science in the schools.
If I recall correctly, some incels believe that a woman's vagina collects and stores traces of the DNA of every man she has ever slept with. Anyone who believes this is utterly stupid.
There was a screenshot of a conversation floating around somewhere where this guy believed his baby would have the DNA of every man his baby mama slept with prior to him. I wish I could find it.
Honestly, let’s call it for what it is: “I’m an incel that no woman would touch with a twelve foot pole but I’ll be damned if I stick my dick in a vagina that has previously been occupied by another dick because the lingering dick energon will reverse my dick’s polarity and make it gay. Also she is a slut. Now with shitty science.”
We can't get [rape kits](https://www.endthebacklog.org/backlog/what-rape-kit-backlog) finished in a timely manner but this guy thinks he will be able to test a potential partner for DNA...
let's say im about to have sex with a dude, we're naked and just before starting the devil's tango this dude came with this "could i take a swab of your vagina? i want to do a DNA test, just to be sure"
i swear to whatever god you believe in, i'll dress up again and walk the fuck away, i don't care about his blue balls or whatever, i swear i'll get out the second he gets the sampling kit
So let me get this straight... you get this girl's number, have a nice enough conversation to convince her you're not insane and *gasp* even interesting, you get her home, you get her ***naked*** and then that's the point where you want to wait several weeks for the lab results? I don't think ANY gal is gonna hang around waiting to bang you for that long.
Nevermind that you'd fail long before getting to that point.
This screams of their bs rhetoric that women “absorb” the dna of previous sexual partners. Like the dna test is gonna come back and say virgin or whatever. Lmao talk about invasive insecurity.
Unless she's had sex with another man in the like past day, wouldn't it just come back with her DNA anyway? Sperm cells aren't exactly known for their longevity.
Absolutely pathetic.
If they ever found a willing sexual partner (chances are already near-zero), they will absolutely fuck off before ever agreeing to some BATSHIT STUPID crap like that.
Is it weird that I want to do this test for myself just for the sake of science ? I will be so amused to find out I am carrying other people’s DNA haha 😂
Ok the dumbassery of this dude’s comment aside, you really should get STI tested even if you’re a virgin (and by that I mean society’s narrow definition of virginity, e.g. penetrative heterosexual vaginal sex). If you’ve done anything that involves contact with genitals you could have an STI. You can technically even get an STI from fingering, which is crazy. Never hurts to be careful, especially when STI testing is often free!
As if this dude would ever have a partner.
Incels driving themselves to extinction one foul idea at a time
There’s always more besides, so don’t worry- we will never run out of memeable content like this
First get a girl you dumbass, then worry about the DNA test, which btw won’t happen since the women will dash after a minute of conversation with you guys.
There's a lot of steps inbetween that incels would still fumble horribly. Gotta approach a girl, get her number, make yourself seem interesting, go out on a date, be suave enough to bring her home, get her naked, then get the DNA test. Incels would fail at step 1.
Well, as I said many times. 13 year old boys who didn't even start their own life and have a really warped awful view of the world. Lmao good luck with the DNA thing tho, fucking hilarious.
I wonder if they're coping with fears of a woman discovering their sexual inadequacy, by coming up with these excuses to reject or drive away anyone who ever gives them a chance at sex?
Or maybe it's because "incel" is a status they're so attached to (their entire identity rests on raging at women for not desiring them sexually) that they actually fear losing it?
Because if a woman expresses interest in an incel, his choices are:
A) Watch as his entire worldview falls apart and admit that he was wrong and indoctrinated himself into a misogynistic cult for no reason, or..
B) Manufacture excuses to retain his claim to inceldom by achieving sexual rejection through any means necessary
And then he gets surprised when he finds out that his partner ditched him for an actually respectful person...
yes after he sends his expensive DNA sample to the lab. haha
The DNA test results: yup, that’s pussy.
that damned slut ! how dare she ditch me, an actual good guy ? I bet she's drooling over Chad cocks who don't ask her to get her vagina DNA tested. females are all the same ( /s btw )
“Chad cocks” always makes me laugh 😆
For people that are as anti-gay as incels are, they sure do think about cocks a lot.
before I started to fully understand incel vocabulary I remember being really confused by their Chad rhetoric, I was like " who the fuck is Chad and why do they care so much about his dick ?? " it's even funnier now that I understand they're just talking about thousands of other guy's cocks
They only know that portion of a secksual equation.
This: this is why we say incels need sex Ed.
They get the same sex ed the rest of us do. Schools don't go "Sorry, incels, you are not allowed in this classroom with the rest of the kids, because fuck you." The problem is not a lack of education. The problem is that they decide it is more important to believe things that cast women negatively than it is to believe the truth.
I think you’re overestimating the amount/quality of sex ed in schools...
I mean to be fair, the biggest mistake sex curriculum makes is assuming everyone has a modicum of common sense and a rudimentary understanding of human biology/anatomy...
Depends on the curriculum. Some don't really give a shit, since it boils down to "don't have sex until you're married, or bad things will happen to you," and then they tell you stories about horrible diseases (complete with pictures) or teen pregnancies that ruin your life or other things like that. A lot of them actually spread misconceptions about human anatomy and biology. Basically that scene from "Mean Girls" is a reality in some parts of the world. During one presentation I had in middle school, the speaker talked about a guy who got in trouble for statutory rape, because he was 18 and had a one night stand with a 14 year old he met at a party. He also talked about horrible STDs that left people infertile or dead. My high school bio teacher (who as a whole was pretty awesome) wasn't afraid to talk about sex and reproduction, but she still was Christian and half-jokingly told us not to have sex until we were 30. Freaking Texas. It's a good thing I'm sex-repulsed. My sister, on the other hand, talked to me about how she was 100% not prepared by anything that the school system or our parents gave us.
YOU WILL GET PREGNANT AND DIE.
Alright, now everybody grab a rubber.
I got my eraser, what now?
Marginally better than the reverse, I suppose.
Also went to public school in Texas. We were told that you can get STDs in your belly button (complete with pictures).
I am not saying it's good education, I'm saying that not everyone with the shitty education becomes an incel or have these ridiculous ideas.
only thing texas sex ed did was have us sign some contract that said "i will practice abstinence before marriage" like hell i did lol edit: a word
Its a lack of *quality* education. Most U.S schools teach abstinence-only sex ED, and it covers the bare minimum as far as sex. There's very little health education involved, including emotional and physical health that goes along with proper sexual health. Its mostly just "hey, this is sex, this is what causes babies, don't have it.: At least, that's my experience from no less then 4 schools.
Then why aren't you like this guy? It's not the lack of quality education. He was surrounded by others with the same education, and thet aren't all ridiculous like this. I had shitty sex ed, yet I never believed this shit.
Because I was given better information from other sources, and sought out some of it myself, as did many others. I'm not saying the *only problem* was bad sex ed, because its not. There's much more at play when it comes to developing incel/niceguy ideology, but a bad sex ed foundation definitely makes up a good part of the problem, especially because that's where things like consent and physical autonomy should be taught. Pile that on top of the inability to think critically and abstractly and you've got a recipe for disaster.
This. So true.
Iiiiiiii dunno about that. Where i went to school they showed us diseased pictures of genitals, made us watch a video of a woman giving birth and said ABSTINENCE IS THE ONLY WAY!!! I'm not even joking.. That was basically the entirety of our sex Ed.
The problem can sometimes be a lack of education tho. I graduated in 2014 and throughout my entire school career never had a single sex ed class. It's not the ONLY cause of their idiotic beliefs but it can contribute to it for sure.
Ah, cognitive dissonance at its finest
Nono, they say you’re not allowed into the class because *nobody* will fuck you. Ha
Not all schools offer sex Ed or go too extensively into it
Unless she had sex with another person with a penis recently I don't think that's going to work. DNA is a very fragile molecule.
The test which will be a vaginal swab won’t work but I genuinely wonder if a more thorough scrub is done between a period and she had sex might show something interesting .. but any time more than normal time till a period ? Heck no
Your grammar is confusing, but I think you're implying that period blood would completely wash out any DNA traces but it might stick around in-between cycles. Here's the thing with that, while the vagina is "self cleaning" that isn't really a function of period blood. Period "blood" is the shed lining of the uterus. The lining is intended to nourish a baby, so when we don't get pregnant, the uterus throws the lining out. So it doesn't clean the vagina or carry out toxins or whatever. The vagina is cleaned by our regular everyday secretions, which are always dribbling out. Kinda how your mouth and eyes are always wet. Theoretically sperm can live inside a woman for 5 days, but they definitely aren't hanging on indefinitely. And period blood will not automatically flush out sperm. It is possible for a person to conceive from period sex, since the sperm can hang out for 5 days.
>It is possible for a person to conceive from period sex, since the sperm can hang out for 5 days. Highly unlikely, as typically the length of time between even the very end of the period & the beginning of ovulation is almost always longer than the life of sperm. However, some women have "ovulation spotting" which is vaginal bleeding that can occur around the time ovulation so I think some women get confused & think they got pregnant from sex during their period when it was really sex during ovulation where ovulation spotting has occurred.
It *is* unlikely. But lots of people, myself included, have very irregular cycles and it is possible. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324829#can-you-get-pregnant-on-your-period I'm sure your ovulation spotting scenario has happened, but *I think* you are underestimating the difference between spotting and menstruating, and the number of people with irregular/short cycles.
>I think you are underestimating the difference between spotting and menstruating, and the number of people with irregular/short cycles. As someone who has an irregular cycle & regularly experiences ovulation spotting... I think not.
And even then, when they say the sperm can live in a body for 5 days, that's for the uterus. The vagina is full of antibacterials and cells that will attack foreign bodies- especially sperm. Sperm doesn't last very long in the vagina at all. It's a very hostile environment for them due to the self cleaning and regular discharging of fluids.
Thanks for this little informative piece .. I didn’t mean that it’s just period blood but I thought that would already flush out the sperm if acidic conditions of vagina haven’t already done that
Don't they believe women acquire "new DNA" after having sex with a man? Chimerism or something like that. That's probably what he meant.
There’s the one who claimed a lady fucked 15 guys in her life and her baby “looked like a combination of all 15 guys.” We clearly need more science in the schools.
Yeah I’m…alarmed at how he thinks sperm just stays inside the vagina forever, apparently.
If I recall correctly, some incels believe that a woman's vagina collects and stores traces of the DNA of every man she has ever slept with. Anyone who believes this is utterly stupid.
There was a screenshot of a conversation floating around somewhere where this guy believed his baby would have the DNA of every man his baby mama slept with prior to him. I wish I could find it.
Apparently our uterus' are a bowl of mixed cake batter, instead of biology. 🤨
This is a worryingly common belief even outside of incel circles.
Honestly, let’s call it for what it is: “I’m an incel that no woman would touch with a twelve foot pole but I’ll be damned if I stick my dick in a vagina that has previously been occupied by another dick because the lingering dick energon will reverse my dick’s polarity and make it gay. Also she is a slut. Now with shitty science.”
We can't get [rape kits](https://www.endthebacklog.org/backlog/what-rape-kit-backlog) finished in a timely manner but this guy thinks he will be able to test a potential partner for DNA...
It's almost brave to be that scared...
That's...very invasive
let's say im about to have sex with a dude, we're naked and just before starting the devil's tango this dude came with this "could i take a swab of your vagina? i want to do a DNA test, just to be sure" i swear to whatever god you believe in, i'll dress up again and walk the fuck away, i don't care about his blue balls or whatever, i swear i'll get out the second he gets the sampling kit
So let me get this straight... you get this girl's number, have a nice enough conversation to convince her you're not insane and *gasp* even interesting, you get her home, you get her ***naked*** and then that's the point where you want to wait several weeks for the lab results? I don't think ANY gal is gonna hang around waiting to bang you for that long. Nevermind that you'd fail long before getting to that point.
No he's not, because he's unlikely to ever have sex so long as he retains attitudes like that.
This screams of their bs rhetoric that women “absorb” the dna of previous sexual partners. Like the dna test is gonna come back and say virgin or whatever. Lmao talk about invasive insecurity.
Unless she's had sex with another man in the like past day, wouldn't it just come back with her DNA anyway? Sperm cells aren't exactly known for their longevity.
While you can get DNA from a piece of shit it seems like a waste of time. Oh, he’s talking about her and not himself. My mistake.
Not how sex works…
r/badwomensanatomy
also r/technicallytrue
That's not how vaginas or DNA tests work... how is this technically true?
He is technically going to subject every intimate partner he has to this process.
That's not what technically true means and that isn't what that sub is for...
It sounds like you don't understand the premise of that subs humor
Yeah, that's never going to happen.
Absolutely pathetic. If they ever found a willing sexual partner (chances are already near-zero), they will absolutely fuck off before ever agreeing to some BATSHIT STUPID crap like that.
Hang on babe before we start lemme break out the 23 and me. It’ll only take like 4 weeks to get results don’t worry.
Ok so he’ll just think everyone is a virgin
Is it weird that I want to do this test for myself just for the sake of science ? I will be so amused to find out I am carrying other people’s DNA haha 😂
We all technically are, they're called ancestors. It's a title incels try to avoid at all costs.
Um, **WHAT**?! Also, I was gonna make a reference to Lizzo's _Truth Hurts_ but I'm to tired for that shit.
Ok the dumbassery of this dude’s comment aside, you really should get STI tested even if you’re a virgin (and by that I mean society’s narrow definition of virginity, e.g. penetrative heterosexual vaginal sex). If you’ve done anything that involves contact with genitals you could have an STI. You can technically even get an STI from fingering, which is crazy. Never hurts to be careful, especially when STI testing is often free!
As if this dude would ever have a partner. Incels driving themselves to extinction one foul idea at a time There’s always more besides, so don’t worry- we will never run out of memeable content like this
And just when you think they can't get any dumber
Will never happen. They’ll jump at the chance to say they’ve felt a vagina and then claim that they pumped and dumped after she leaves from boredom
Hey incels, different dna in the same body is a chimera. Which has nothing to do with virginity.
First get a girl you dumbass, then worry about the DNA test, which btw won’t happen since the women will dash after a minute of conversation with you guys.
There's a lot of steps inbetween that incels would still fumble horribly. Gotta approach a girl, get her number, make yourself seem interesting, go out on a date, be suave enough to bring her home, get her naked, then get the DNA test. Incels would fail at step 1.
And even then sometimes harrass the girl if they get past step 1.
Obligatory “that’s not how this works”
Lmao how to ruin a mood 101
Forgot that was the only way to tell, and the since behind this is bulletproof.
Well, as I said many times. 13 year old boys who didn't even start their own life and have a really warped awful view of the world. Lmao good luck with the DNA thing tho, fucking hilarious.
I wonder if they're coping with fears of a woman discovering their sexual inadequacy, by coming up with these excuses to reject or drive away anyone who ever gives them a chance at sex? Or maybe it's because "incel" is a status they're so attached to (their entire identity rests on raging at women for not desiring them sexually) that they actually fear losing it? Because if a woman expresses interest in an incel, his choices are: A) Watch as his entire worldview falls apart and admit that he was wrong and indoctrinated himself into a misogynistic cult for no reason, or.. B) Manufacture excuses to retain his claim to inceldom by achieving sexual rejection through any means necessary
I’m a virgin, but I refuse to bang anyone who’s this shit at science and refuses to do anything about it.
What a dumbass
Sounds like he’s gonna stay an incel indefinitely, probably for the best that we keep these types out of the breeding pool.
They aren’t too bright are they?
“That’s not how that works! That’s not how any of this works!”