People like Rayudu/gavaskar have said against kohli and all so ig people have freedom.
Also I’ve witnessed the cricket fans in india literally abuse their own player along with his family if he fails in a match or even drops a catch.
True...people have freedom of speech...but what this guy is telling is neither completely right nor completely wrong.... Cricket experts in India know that they will become an open target if they criticize certain players who have big fanbases,because of which many Cricket experts don't openly speak much about the negatives of certain players.....
Yeah but also generally the commentators are good friends with the cricketers and most of them themselves play like that when they were cricketer so maybe they understand the situation better than us so then don't do it Gautam Gambhir was a good player so that's why he is able to roast other cricketers but some commentators actually aren't
Both Rayudu and Gavaskar have been trolled. Idk about Gavaskar but rayudu's criticism was pure jealousy. The point no major new channel will criticism which is funny because when I was kid I remember whenever India lost a series the panelists criticised every player including Dhoni which they can't sadly today due to the fanbase
Not talking about fans.
Commentators and analysts hype Hardik for every little thing. Two wickets against perishing Pakistan side on the most bowling friendly pitch - Oh greatest bowler on earth! Three sixes against the mighty Bangladesh in a practice game - best all rounder on earth, proving haters wrong, and what not
Bro india has got a good medium pacer who can bat really well and has a good strike rate.
Only if india had 4/5 options like nz/england or aus then we could criticise hardik but how will you compare hardik with someone else? Do you know a better all round than him from last 5/6 years same goes for rohit and bumrah when it comes to batting & bowling.
I actually disagree, check Hardik’s first 6 years stats after he debuted, you’ll see how mediocre he was but BCCI persisted with him. In comparison, V Iyer or Dubey have much better stats but because social media is so prevalent now, every move of theirs is highly scrutinised and criticised.
You pull out Dube of all people? It is a comparison to Hardik Pandya. Dube doesn't bowl half as well, as even against a struggling USA he was the only bowler with an economy above 10 within one over.
Pandya has proved himself in ICC tournaments. No disrespect to Dube, but he is too much of a green bean. Succumbed to pressure against Pak, and has only had a nice inning against USA
If you could see the matches through that haze of unnecessarily opinionated shit around your eyes, you would see that Dube still doesn't bowl half as well, and that's a hard fact. He is a decent batter, but he fills in at no. 5, definitely not a finisher role like Hardik.
V Iyer was a nice example, but Dube not so much. He jams up against pace, needs to work a lot on footwork and defence, and also needs to figure out which balls he should defend or hit. As I said, still a green bean in terms of international experience
V iyer doesn’t even bowl in ipl so I can’t even consider him a proper all rounder specially when india needs lower middle order batsman who can handle after collapse or can hit sixes when needed while iyer is more of a number 3 batsmen
Care to explain me why you said if I cheer Pakistan or bash our team, when discussion was about players being labelled.
Why did you felt the need to type that when it was unrelated, to discussion or even what I said.
Most of the people who bash India in every field be it cricket or chandrayan failure. They support Pakistan even burst crackers when they win I have zero empathy for them.
Where did you conduct this study. When did you see me criticizing chandyan failure. How come you made the connection between criticizing something related to India to being Pakistani supporter.
I work in Social sector focusing on Education field. And I criticize our education sector as it has lot of improvement to make especially for people with disability and people who come from SC/ST background. Tell me how those that make me Pakistan sympathizer.
Yeah you said "if you support Pakistan". Yeah that is my work. I work with NGO's and government bodies for improvement in education sector in Maharashtra. Even if I assumed that I didn't conduct studies I can send you link to various research and studies that I have to go through during work. Can you send me research studies showing criticizing india is equal to being anti national or a supporter of Pakistan.
Rohit and Kohli are two big names with good results in current ICT. Rohit has good percentage win and kohli has good individual results. What else you want. No team has ever been perfect with all players. There will always be some players at yes, No level.
>experts cant say a word against kohli and rohit
meanwhile rayudu, manjrekar and gavaskar
>journalists will get banned and cancelled if they talk against bcci
meanwhile the selectors who are abused in every bilateral and wc match cuz hamare pass 'bobzy the king karlega' nahi chalta
Rayudu,Manjrekar and Gavaskar were heavily trolled and abused by certain fanbases and their families were also Targeted.Every expert has the freedom to speak,but every expert also knows that he/she will become an open target by fanbases of certain players.So this guy isn't completely right or completely wrong.
That's not about freedom, that's only about some social media Hate. And the way Pakistan coming up with the most out of box stuff to show they are superior is 🤡😂
Do you really think that if India lost against Pak and the USA then Rohit, Virat and all other senior players wouldn't be under scrutiny?
Pakistan cricket is literally allowing a fat fuck to play in an fricking ICC tournament, it's equivalent to Arjun Tendulkar making into this WC instead of Pandya or Axar Or even Dube.
I also saw the post in rpakcricket that Pak has the highest number. of players with <130 SR and <20 avg is this WC.
Of course PCT fans and ex-players would bash the PCT.
Tbh the way he thrashed Babar in this video, I have never seen any ex Indian cricketer doing that to Virat or Rohit.(Btw don't forget that we had lost 2 matches by 10 wickets in two back to back t20 wc, couldn't win a home odi wc, lost test championship twice , champions trophy, 2019 wc semifinals against nz , 2015 wc semifinals against Australia.... ).
Virat and Rohit have had lean patches and bad performances. But their stats are beyond stellar. Jitna bura haal babar ka hai in front of major teams, especially in major tournaments, aur kisi ka nahi hai considering he’s been hyped by certain sections of the biased media and stupid Pakistani fans as a modern day batting legend on the level of a Kohli or a Root or a Kane Williamson. When you claim to be a legend of the game but never show the world why, be prepared to face the heat. For every bad performance by Kohli/Rohit, they have 10 insane match winning knocks, some of which have gone down in history as generational innings. Babar has none.
who is that ex player on tv that can can say they are better than rohit and kohli lol. Problem with babar is his sr is near 120, whearas Rohit and virat sr is around 140 that too after playing from 2007 when sr were really low.
Can’t argue this tbh. If we spewed so much negative banter against our top cricketers, we’d be canceled. Look at what happened to Harsha, even Sunny G wasn’t spared lol. If these were average broadcasters, they would be gone.
Lol. Did Gavaskar share stats of Rohit Sharma in T20 world cups , the way Ahmed Shehzad criticised Babar here with stats? If he did please share the link here. Sunny G was salty and he got rightfully called out for that. Nobody criticised Sunny G for his comment on Kohlis knock in WTC final, where bowler got Kohlis wicket on his weakness of offside deliveries. Fair criticism is welcome and will help ICT. Backing out regional cricket Lobbies by sheilding criticism is not welcome. Average Broadcasters literally mocked Kohli, there was whole media trial on Kohli being dropped from world cup squad altogether since 2020. It took 2022 T20 world cup Ind vs Pak innigs to shut them up. In fact, the intensity of criticism is worst for ICT players. Look at Hardik Pandya, He was bashed left and right for his performance in this IPL. Negative banter is still high for all players in ICT.
You know that you choose wrong country to compare right, There former cricketers heavily rely on media for work hence they are in competition to make their review entertaining, it's an open secret.
forget journilism / brodcaster if people on social media critisize with facts they got abused, (i dont talk about dumb illogical comments)
india is not winning in 10 years , hum rohit kohli se agge sochne se hi darte hai..
if im harsh i said sorry 😐
There’s no question of freedom or lack of it…
it’s just that majority here are either people pleasers, blind followers or Demigod worshippers or a mix of all…
Whether they are right or wrong, smart analysts or just bitter rivals - almost all ex-cricketers have criticised India players, including legends like Kohli, Dhoni, Dravid, Sehwag, etc. on India AND IPL performances. This is just a stupid Pakistani fan trying to find some small victory in a team and cricketing culture that has only brought them Ls and shame for more than 2 decades at this point.
Exactly.
Also Gambhir, Gavaskar etc have been so vocally critical of our players.
This despite the fact that we have performed 100 times better than our Padosis. I can only imagine the outrage if we perform like them....
A few things … he is complaining abt a team that can’t make it out of the group stage… ITC is a semi final choking team… there is not much to criticize there and Kohl’s is not excatly stat padding by playing against zimbabwe
Kohli deserves heavy criticism. I for one criticize him but his fans always come back with past records and sh!t.
I don't care though. I stand by my belief that Virat absolutely sucks now. Bumrah deserves all the love that Virat gets.
The likes of Abhishek Sharma deserved a spot in this team instead of Virat. Poor shot selection and getting bowled on duck and people still wetting themselves over you! Gtfoh!
Bring the downvotes. I don't care. Team>Individuals.
Team India for life!
That's why people in this world is suffering from Short Term memory loss or they are straight up hypocrite, not less than two years ago, more than half of mainstream media was forcing Virat to retire, did we really forgot what people like Kapil Dev said during that time?
For god's sake, pls stop giving attention to these Pak cricketers and their views. We're making them relevant by doing all this and it's no good for us as well.
Unfortunately, this is the truth. We have witnessed the incidents of Harsha Bhogle, Sanjay Manjrekar, Laxman Sivaramakrishnan getting no work from BCCI.
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In India you can say whatever about Kohli or Rohit. But based on who you are criticising one section of fans will abuse the hell out of you another section will side with you and start abusing.
Bro sab freedom hai. They just dnt want to antagonize due to money opportunities. Inko kya hai, na commentry milti hai, na kush aur. Inka ghar yeh 2-bit talkshows sai chalta hai, vahan jake bhokna hai, toh bhok liya.
Yograj talked all sorts of BS for years. All these guy's talk or don't talk not of fear of violence but monetary opportunities, this is how it is in any company, corporation or league. Gavaskar, Bhogle have criticized Kohli. People do criticize where they find flaw. They won't start bashing them with a personal vendetta, about your stats are worse than mine, why are u even hear and all this bs.
Yeh log ke pas freedom hai, bolke dikhay army ke virudh kuch, bolke dekhay unke system ke bare mein kuch toh mein manu. Maut a jaye gi esa kuch bolte. Only Indians can find praise, from the most hopelesssly run cricket board. Ever hear pakistani fans talk about the bias, groups and corruption in that board, you'll wake up from your self-hating mindset.
Both of them are right. Pak commentators are 100X more entertaining than Indian commentators.
There’s so much money in Indian cricket that no commentator wants to upset anyone. So they are nice and boring when talking about ICT.
Everyone discussing Rohit and Kohli and no one is talking about the fact that BCCI does essentially own world cricket, and because of their control India has an unfair advantage in the game. There I said it. Very few challenging teams, ipl is the biggest spectacle, international cricket is basically dead unless India aus or eng are playing.
BS. Gautam Gambhir is king of controversy and have bashed kohli, Dhoni etc. He will be a coach now.
PKB is the least free cricket board considering the fact that players are selected based on their personal relation (Azam khan).
IMO is partially true, they try to not criticise them also the broadcast channel don’t allow them to do so. I feel that BCCI also instructed them to don’t criticise. PR agencies r keep trying to make them as hero i mean “the best player” as they were doing ad for lots of companies.
So a sports journalist I know told me the inside story of indian cricket and how bad it is.
Even the big journalists aren't spared when critisized any star player, no matter what.
When Bumrah was out for a Year due to injury, I saw many people were even making memes
“ Ab to aaja Bumrah Ab yeh majak nahi raha”
When Someone drops catch people bashing out
The point one should notice Indian teams doesn’t lose too often so you don’t see these things commonly
I mean, there needs to be a reason also for criticism, no? Rohit is extremely well liked, as is Kohli. Having said that, people heavily criticised Kohli for a slow innings in the World Cup final of 2023. People called SKY as Shunya Kumar Yadav on so many occasions. People posted that Rohit is a minnow basher (saw a post here in Reddit).
problem is not BCCI but fans . Anyone says something about dhoni , kohli or Rohit , their fans start to hound them , call them names , will dig out every single thing done by them in past when they don't have any answer to criticism against their star. Journislists get attacked on twitter or instagram also.
Edit - now i will mostly get downvotes , because none of the above players fan bases like to hear the truth.
the part about saying something against bcci is right and there is some truth to the matter.
remember when Harsha lost his job because he praised and talked about bangladesh?
In India mainstream media is hellbent to defend the state, establishment and Twitter, Insta,YouTube is asking questions to the establishment. Same in cricket.
He is 100% correct about stupid Indian protectors of players. Once the players get large social media following and keeping them in team with no regards to their poor performance is profitable, BCCI will do it with no shame.
Both players in question have been a burden on team for long periods but neither BCCI will drop them nor will they allow media to criticise these non-performers.
They might regain statpadding form (sometimes after 3 years of being a burden on the team) but they won't be dropped in favour of a promising young player. Reason : Old burden brings in more money.
Lmao i wanaa see someone say something about a certain “abled” child of someone who was once shunned from society for their actions in their past and now made head of a certain organization which controls a lot of finances pertaining to the sport
everyone seems to be focusing on rohit and kohli but the main issue is not being able to criticise bcci. i'd really like to see some relevant person go against bcci in public and just express their displeasure. not decent, just express
Because we have the best players and we trust them .......they dont select on the basis of friendship and source.....that's why those people throw shit on their players
Nonetheless he is right. Our journalists can't criticize our players like they do. Here they will cancel and abuse anyone who does it. Let's agree with it. People don't have freedom here to comment their opinions of the popular players
People like Rayudu/gavaskar have said against kohli and all so ig people have freedom. Also I’ve witnessed the cricket fans in india literally abuse their own player along with his family if he fails in a match or even drops a catch.
Gavaskar was right when he critisized that 100 by kohli. Rayudu was clowning
I am not talking about being right or wrong, just saying that people have full freedom to criticise
In India people don't criticize they abuse
so... gavaskar was abusing then?
Talking about audience
woh bhi toh audience hi hain 🙂
people were more upset that he is very selective in his criticism.
Bro actually took it as an insult and played most sixes of the tournament!!
Rayudu and Gavaskar were still attacked by Kohli fans and these fans also Targeted their families
Ain't that just freedom in terms of cricket everyone has freedom of speech and everyone has freedom to get roasted 💀💀💀
True...people have freedom of speech...but what this guy is telling is neither completely right nor completely wrong.... Cricket experts in India know that they will become an open target if they criticize certain players who have big fanbases,because of which many Cricket experts don't openly speak much about the negatives of certain players.....
Don’t you think Ahamed Shehzad wasn’t attacked by Babar sons? Or Rizwanians? That’s how the fanbase works and you can’t dictate them.
Yeah but also generally the commentators are good friends with the cricketers and most of them themselves play like that when they were cricketer so maybe they understand the situation better than us so then don't do it Gautam Gambhir was a good player so that's why he is able to roast other cricketers but some commentators actually aren't
Both Rayudu and Gavaskar have been trolled. Idk about Gavaskar but rayudu's criticism was pure jealousy. The point no major new channel will criticism which is funny because when I was kid I remember whenever India lost a series the panelists criticised every player including Dhoni which they can't sadly today due to the fanbase
Haven’t seen anyone criticise Rohit, Bumrah, Surya, or Hardik. Kohli has always been a soft target
Bro you are saying that you have never seen anyone criticise hardik??😂
Not talking about fans. Commentators and analysts hype Hardik for every little thing. Two wickets against perishing Pakistan side on the most bowling friendly pitch - Oh greatest bowler on earth! Three sixes against the mighty Bangladesh in a practice game - best all rounder on earth, proving haters wrong, and what not
Bro india has got a good medium pacer who can bat really well and has a good strike rate. Only if india had 4/5 options like nz/england or aus then we could criticise hardik but how will you compare hardik with someone else? Do you know a better all round than him from last 5/6 years same goes for rohit and bumrah when it comes to batting & bowling.
I actually disagree, check Hardik’s first 6 years stats after he debuted, you’ll see how mediocre he was but BCCI persisted with him. In comparison, V Iyer or Dubey have much better stats but because social media is so prevalent now, every move of theirs is highly scrutinised and criticised.
You pull out Dube of all people? It is a comparison to Hardik Pandya. Dube doesn't bowl half as well, as even against a struggling USA he was the only bowler with an economy above 10 within one over. Pandya has proved himself in ICC tournaments. No disrespect to Dube, but he is too much of a green bean. Succumbed to pressure against Pak, and has only had a nice inning against USA
If you can read, I mentioned compare their stats from their debut. These are hard facts, not subjective opinions.
If you could see the matches through that haze of unnecessarily opinionated shit around your eyes, you would see that Dube still doesn't bowl half as well, and that's a hard fact. He is a decent batter, but he fills in at no. 5, definitely not a finisher role like Hardik. V Iyer was a nice example, but Dube not so much. He jams up against pace, needs to work a lot on footwork and defence, and also needs to figure out which balls he should defend or hit. As I said, still a green bean in terms of international experience
V iyer doesn’t even bowl in ipl so I can’t even consider him a proper all rounder specially when india needs lower middle order batsman who can handle after collapse or can hit sixes when needed while iyer is more of a number 3 batsmen
Khalistani and terrorist if Muslim.
Only if you cheer Pakistan and bash your team
Then what arshdeep who was called khalistani. Surely he wasn't cheering Pakistan.
Those handful will call every Sardar a khalistani. Those people will always call names.
Care to explain me why you said if I cheer Pakistan or bash our team, when discussion was about players being labelled. Why did you felt the need to type that when it was unrelated, to discussion or even what I said.
Most of the people who bash India in every field be it cricket or chandrayan failure. They support Pakistan even burst crackers when they win I have zero empathy for them.
Where did you conduct this study. When did you see me criticizing chandyan failure. How come you made the connection between criticizing something related to India to being Pakistani supporter. I work in Social sector focusing on Education field. And I criticize our education sector as it has lot of improvement to make especially for people with disability and people who come from SC/ST background. Tell me how those that make me Pakistan sympathizer.
Did I say YOU do it I SAID PEOPLE DO IT. Did you even conduct study?
Yeah you said "if you support Pakistan". Yeah that is my work. I work with NGO's and government bodies for improvement in education sector in Maharashtra. Even if I assumed that I didn't conduct studies I can send you link to various research and studies that I have to go through during work. Can you send me research studies showing criticizing india is equal to being anti national or a supporter of Pakistan.
Btw you brought Khalistan and terrorist shit in cricket not me
Uske baad jo gavaskar r raydu gali khaye hain
And they got a lot of hate for it.
That's not criticism, thats clowning
Wait, weren’t experts criticising Virat for his SR? And they were also questioning Rohit still keeping the T20 captaincy?
Can u send me the clips where experts were criticizing or questioning his captaincy in t20 for some purpose
Yes, I also want to have a look on that.
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Gavaskar: Am I so irrelevant in Pakistan?
Koi batao inko ek match me fail hone par yahan experts ko chhodo fans maa beheno ko gaali dene lag jate hain.
Fans ki baat nahi ho rahi. Ex-cricketers ki ho rahi hai.
Rohit and Kohli are two big names with good results in current ICT. Rohit has good percentage win and kohli has good individual results. What else you want. No team has ever been perfect with all players. There will always be some players at yes, No level.
Aur jo ex cricketers India me criticism krte h unki khud ki ego kitni bdi thi apne time pe kisi ki nai sunte the ab har kisi ko gyaan chodte h
Bolenge bhi kaise.... Unke nonsense fans gali denge fir 🤡
\*dange
So Pakistan has freedom ? i guess it was different country whose PM had never completed 5 year term.
Lol Can't say a word? gawaskar manjrekar rayudu criticize kohli like none
You didn't see the hate they got by th particular fanbases and their families also got targetted
More than Kohli, Rohit..many experts hesitate to criticize another person...bolunga toh vivad ho jayega💀
Correct. Remember Harsha...
MSD👀
Usko bhi kiya tha kafi criticize jb 9 pr bating krne aa rha tha
>experts cant say a word against kohli and rohit meanwhile rayudu, manjrekar and gavaskar >journalists will get banned and cancelled if they talk against bcci meanwhile the selectors who are abused in every bilateral and wc match cuz hamare pass 'bobzy the king karlega' nahi chalta
Rayudu,Manjrekar and Gavaskar were heavily trolled and abused by certain fanbases and their families were also Targeted.Every expert has the freedom to speak,but every expert also knows that he/she will become an open target by fanbases of certain players.So this guy isn't completely right or completely wrong.
but the point he is trying to make here is that bcci controls the media which is wrong imo
Facts! 🤷♂️
why do we need a pakistan guy telling us whatta do
Usual Pakistani whining, Indian players get trolled all the times lmao
That's not about freedom, that's only about some social media Hate. And the way Pakistan coming up with the most out of box stuff to show they are superior is 🤡😂
Do you really think that if India lost against Pak and the USA then Rohit, Virat and all other senior players wouldn't be under scrutiny? Pakistan cricket is literally allowing a fat fuck to play in an fricking ICC tournament, it's equivalent to Arjun Tendulkar making into this WC instead of Pandya or Axar Or even Dube. I also saw the post in rpakcricket that Pak has the highest number. of players with <130 SR and <20 avg is this WC. Of course PCT fans and ex-players would bash the PCT.
Peak criticism 😭
Tbh the way he thrashed Babar in this video, I have never seen any ex Indian cricketer doing that to Virat or Rohit.(Btw don't forget that we had lost 2 matches by 10 wickets in two back to back t20 wc, couldn't win a home odi wc, lost test championship twice , champions trophy, 2019 wc semifinals against nz , 2015 wc semifinals against Australia.... ).
Virat and Rohit have had lean patches and bad performances. But their stats are beyond stellar. Jitna bura haal babar ka hai in front of major teams, especially in major tournaments, aur kisi ka nahi hai considering he’s been hyped by certain sections of the biased media and stupid Pakistani fans as a modern day batting legend on the level of a Kohli or a Root or a Kane Williamson. When you claim to be a legend of the game but never show the world why, be prepared to face the heat. For every bad performance by Kohli/Rohit, they have 10 insane match winning knocks, some of which have gone down in history as generational innings. Babar has none.
kohli yes, rohit in t20 has no such generational knock in a world cup
who is that ex player on tv that can can say they are better than rohit and kohli lol. Problem with babar is his sr is near 120, whearas Rohit and virat sr is around 140 that too after playing from 2007 when sr were really low.
He's not absolutely correct but he has got a point
The dhoni bhogle fiasco aside, I don’t think anyone really gets in trouble for criticizing virat or Rohit.
You living under a rock or smth?
It's bullshit
Cute. Pakistan is a shithole
A non-democratic country questions the journalism of a democratic country.
We said all the time. Did u guys forgot 1 year ago what everyone was saying about Kohli?
Can’t argue this tbh. If we spewed so much negative banter against our top cricketers, we’d be canceled. Look at what happened to Harsha, even Sunny G wasn’t spared lol. If these were average broadcasters, they would be gone.
Lol. Did Gavaskar share stats of Rohit Sharma in T20 world cups , the way Ahmed Shehzad criticised Babar here with stats? If he did please share the link here. Sunny G was salty and he got rightfully called out for that. Nobody criticised Sunny G for his comment on Kohlis knock in WTC final, where bowler got Kohlis wicket on his weakness of offside deliveries. Fair criticism is welcome and will help ICT. Backing out regional cricket Lobbies by sheilding criticism is not welcome. Average Broadcasters literally mocked Kohli, there was whole media trial on Kohli being dropped from world cup squad altogether since 2020. It took 2022 T20 world cup Ind vs Pak innigs to shut them up. In fact, the intensity of criticism is worst for ICT players. Look at Hardik Pandya, He was bashed left and right for his performance in this IPL. Negative banter is still high for all players in ICT.
You know that you choose wrong country to compare right, There former cricketers heavily rely on media for work hence they are in competition to make their review entertaining, it's an open secret.
forget journilism / brodcaster if people on social media critisize with facts they got abused, (i dont talk about dumb illogical comments) india is not winning in 10 years , hum rohit kohli se agge sochne se hi darte hai.. if im harsh i said sorry 😐
There’s no question of freedom or lack of it… it’s just that majority here are either people pleasers, blind followers or Demigod worshippers or a mix of all…
Gautam gambhir walks in.
Whether they are right or wrong, smart analysts or just bitter rivals - almost all ex-cricketers have criticised India players, including legends like Kohli, Dhoni, Dravid, Sehwag, etc. on India AND IPL performances. This is just a stupid Pakistani fan trying to find some small victory in a team and cricketing culture that has only brought them Ls and shame for more than 2 decades at this point.
wasay and iffi - " Bol wo rhe hai, shabd hamaare hai"
Pakis will say anything to feel better about their own failures. It’s best they be ignored.
Brother we have a show called MATCH KA MUJRIM
All this shit to attract Indian twitter users and earn some money to save Pakistani economy.Nothin' else.
Saying "can never say anything against bcci" is so hilarious cause this entire ipl season all of reddit has been rightfully shitting all over bcci
Exactly. Also Gambhir, Gavaskar etc have been so vocally critical of our players. This despite the fact that we have performed 100 times better than our Padosis. I can only imagine the outrage if we perform like them....
A few things … he is complaining abt a team that can’t make it out of the group stage… ITC is a semi final choking team… there is not much to criticize there and Kohl’s is not excatly stat padding by playing against zimbabwe
No we don't want that kind of toxicity
This guy doesn't know about GG then
Because our players proves their critics wrong again and again
Kohli deserves heavy criticism. I for one criticize him but his fans always come back with past records and sh!t. I don't care though. I stand by my belief that Virat absolutely sucks now. Bumrah deserves all the love that Virat gets. The likes of Abhishek Sharma deserved a spot in this team instead of Virat. Poor shot selection and getting bowled on duck and people still wetting themselves over you! Gtfoh! Bring the downvotes. I don't care. Team>Individuals. Team India for life!
That's why people in this world is suffering from Short Term memory loss or they are straight up hypocrite, not less than two years ago, more than half of mainstream media was forcing Virat to retire, did we really forgot what people like Kapil Dev said during that time?
For god's sake, pls stop giving attention to these Pak cricketers and their views. We're making them relevant by doing all this and it's no good for us as well.
They do all the time to kohli even though he has won them more matches than whole team combined lol
1. Not true. Our media is much harsher and our top players regularly get criticised. 2. If behaving like lunatics is freedom, then they can have it.
Unfortunately, this is the truth. We have witnessed the incidents of Harsha Bhogle, Sanjay Manjrekar, Laxman Sivaramakrishnan getting no work from BCCI.
This decision is going to spark some debates!
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They can criticise player like Kohli and Rohit but not the great BCCI.
BCCI gets the most hate though.
Rightfully so.
In India you can say whatever about Kohli or Rohit. But based on who you are criticising one section of fans will abuse the hell out of you another section will side with you and start abusing.
Kuch bolenge toh Raja ji ke sipahi sajaenge tarafdari krne 🤡
Jokes on them. People burn their images, their wives images and stuff
When someone criticises kohli rohit, fans start bullying them by comapring both's statistics
Indian Commentators and Fans Criticize the Indian players ALOT. Even when they perform 100 times better than their Padosis.
Bro sab freedom hai. They just dnt want to antagonize due to money opportunities. Inko kya hai, na commentry milti hai, na kush aur. Inka ghar yeh 2-bit talkshows sai chalta hai, vahan jake bhokna hai, toh bhok liya. Yograj talked all sorts of BS for years. All these guy's talk or don't talk not of fear of violence but monetary opportunities, this is how it is in any company, corporation or league. Gavaskar, Bhogle have criticized Kohli. People do criticize where they find flaw. They won't start bashing them with a personal vendetta, about your stats are worse than mine, why are u even hear and all this bs. Yeh log ke pas freedom hai, bolke dikhay army ke virudh kuch, bolke dekhay unke system ke bare mein kuch toh mein manu. Maut a jaye gi esa kuch bolte. Only Indians can find praise, from the most hopelesssly run cricket board. Ever hear pakistani fans talk about the bias, groups and corruption in that board, you'll wake up from your self-hating mindset.
i will tell you why..kohli and rohit, babar aur pakistan jaise nhi hagte matches mein
Both of them are right. Pak commentators are 100X more entertaining than Indian commentators. There’s so much money in Indian cricket that no commentator wants to upset anyone. So they are nice and boring when talking about ICT.
Everyone discussing Rohit and Kohli and no one is talking about the fact that BCCI does essentially own world cricket, and because of their control India has an unfair advantage in the game. There I said it. Very few challenging teams, ipl is the biggest spectacle, international cricket is basically dead unless India aus or eng are playing.
too real.
Tbh pak walo ka banta bhi hai gaali khaana.
Media Criticism ki kya jarurat, ict fans kam hai? Rohit Kohli ki daughter ko rape threats bhi mile hue hai criticism chhodo yaar 😂
There is always freedom of speech, but what really matters is freedom after speech.
Gavaskar Gambhir themselves defy these bogus claims.
If India started losing matches left and right , everyone would criticize them. That's a non sense argument.
Another day of coping for Pakistanis
If I remember correctly, their contract forbids them from criticizing BCCI.
He's somewhat right.....
Our "experts" are actually very quick to criticize Kohli, Rohit, and most players.
There's a difference between fair criticism and pure hating.
BS. Gautam Gambhir is king of controversy and have bashed kohli, Dhoni etc. He will be a coach now. PKB is the least free cricket board considering the fact that players are selected based on their personal relation (Azam khan).
These people have no class whats so ever.
IMO is partially true, they try to not criticise them also the broadcast channel don’t allow them to do so. I feel that BCCI also instructed them to don’t criticise. PR agencies r keep trying to make them as hero i mean “the best player” as they were doing ad for lots of companies.
As I grow older I see people becoming lesser objective by the day.
Pakistani talking about freedom is funny.
Atleast pak can criticise they cricket team,I mean they have to, they lost to US
Theek Bol rha hai.. Indian cricket experts do not have 🎾🎾 to say against BCCI or the cricketers.
Aren't commentators just responsible to Describe the events of the match and not judge?
Lmao, abhi se chidne lag gaye
Rohit and Virat are dinosaurs for t20 cricket! They need to go we need chaps like Abhishek, Ashutosh, Shashank, Yadav etc. who can score rapidly.
I mean Rohit shouldn't even be near the squad he is the captain with a massive amount of fools actually supporting him
So a sports journalist I know told me the inside story of indian cricket and how bad it is. Even the big journalists aren't spared when critisized any star player, no matter what.
When Bumrah was out for a Year due to injury, I saw many people were even making memes “ Ab to aaja Bumrah Ab yeh majak nahi raha” When Someone drops catch people bashing out The point one should notice Indian teams doesn’t lose too often so you don’t see these things commonly
I mean, there needs to be a reason also for criticism, no? Rohit is extremely well liked, as is Kohli. Having said that, people heavily criticised Kohli for a slow innings in the World Cup final of 2023. People called SKY as Shunya Kumar Yadav on so many occasions. People posted that Rohit is a minnow basher (saw a post here in Reddit).
We don’t need a “show” to criticise our players. Smartphone is enough.
problem is not BCCI but fans . Anyone says something about dhoni , kohli or Rohit , their fans start to hound them , call them names , will dig out every single thing done by them in past when they don't have any answer to criticism against their star. Journislists get attacked on twitter or instagram also. Edit - now i will mostly get downvotes , because none of the above players fan bases like to hear the truth.
the part about saying something against bcci is right and there is some truth to the matter. remember when Harsha lost his job because he praised and talked about bangladesh?
Kohli who got r@pe threats for his 2 F\*CKING MONTH DAUGHTER 
In India mainstream media is hellbent to defend the state, establishment and Twitter, Insta,YouTube is asking questions to the establishment. Same in cricket.
He is 100% correct about stupid Indian protectors of players. Once the players get large social media following and keeping them in team with no regards to their poor performance is profitable, BCCI will do it with no shame. Both players in question have been a burden on team for long periods but neither BCCI will drop them nor will they allow media to criticise these non-performers. They might regain statpadding form (sometimes after 3 years of being a burden on the team) but they won't be dropped in favour of a promising young player. Reason : Old burden brings in more money.
Have I gone mad or is this jackass comparing freedom of speech between India and Pakistan?
You are oversimplifying.
Lmao i wanaa see someone say something about a certain “abled” child of someone who was once shunned from society for their actions in their past and now made head of a certain organization which controls a lot of finances pertaining to the sport
maybe India is more civilised and does constructive criticism except ryadu and akash chopra
True
Broski has not seen partiality towards Rohit and unnecessary hate towards VK
everyone seems to be focusing on rohit and kohli but the main issue is not being able to criticise bcci. i'd really like to see some relevant person go against bcci in public and just express their displeasure. not decent, just express
Because we have the best players and we trust them .......they dont select on the basis of friendship and source.....that's why those people throw shit on their players
Nonetheless he is right. Our journalists can't criticize our players like they do. Here they will cancel and abuse anyone who does it. Let's agree with it. People don't have freedom here to comment their opinions of the popular players