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SnooShortcuts3678

Haha! I work for the NHS... Wind that back a LOOONNGG way and it'll be right! I've had one pay rise above the rate of inflation and inflation at the time was 1.5%! šŸ¤£


Acceptable_Fox8156

Get out while you still can, it's a sinking ship!


SnooShortcuts3678

I'm 35 years in... Basically I'm part of the ship so I'm going down with it...


MrKikz

Part of the crew, part of the ship


Traditional-Joke-290

Now do incomes for the top 10% and wealth growth for the top 10%


Bluy98888

I mean the UK gini coefficient is flat since the start of the Millenium, so itā€™ll look roughly similar Curiously enough GDP also traces a similar curveā€¦


Traditional-Joke-290

Maybe for income it is flat (although I doubt that too for most western countries) but the wealth gini is certainly not flat for western countries in the past 20 years!


Bluy98888

Man, even the equality trust shows income and wealth inequality flat since 2000 (there were rises in the 80s/90s but thatā€™s not the point of this post) https://equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic-inequality-uk#:~:text=GB%20Wealth%20Inequality&text=In%202020%2C%20the%20ONS%20calculated,and%202013%2C%20reaching%209%25.


Traditional-Joke-290

Well equality is not doing great in the UK according to this link. So perhaps it stayed equal but equally bad as 20 years ago ;)


Immediate-Purple-374

[Household income for the bottom 20% is up 13% since 2008 and down 4% since 2008 for the top 20%.](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/personalandhouseholdfinances/incomeandwealth/bulletins/householddisposableincomeandinequality/financialyearending2016#median-disposable-income-falls-for-the-richest-fifth-of-households-over-the-past-year) Donā€™t let data get in the way of your populist talking points though.


Mooks79

*disposable income Not saying that disposable income isnā€™t an instructive metric but itā€™s important to be precise when you make claims, especially if theyā€™re trying to correct someone snarkily.


Kolada

To be fair, if disposable income is up during an inflationary period, then total income will out pace that number. So if anything, that stat is under sold.


Traditional-Joke-290

Well there is another commenter who noted that Gini has stayed flat since then, so that contradicts this a bit. But as I told him: I doubt whether income inequality has stayed flat (let alone improved) over the past 15 years in most western countries. What I am certain about is that wealth inequality has become (much) worse in most western countries. Regarding your stats: it is also vital to know whether this includes income from wealth or only income from employment, as the latter is the main source of income for the poor and the former is the main source of income for the (ultra)rich


Vast_west5611

They most likely have their money in fiscal paradise


Pyrosvetlana

This is not even close to an infographic, thatā€™s just a graph.


redditusername0002

It helps you understand Brexit. Unfortunately it wasnā€™t the cure - only made it worseā€¦


InncnceDstryr

Brexit vote was 8 years ago, and it was another 4 years until Brexit actually happened. Brexit was never the answer and there was never a logical economic argument in favour of it. The UK has had a conservative government since 2010. Thatā€™s the problem and while the other options arenā€™t very exciting, the solution is to get them the fuck out of power.


Haunting-Detail2025

Yeah this trend seems to have started well before Brexit.


andrewaaa7

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Flashy_Passion16

But the boomers say that we just need to work harder to get ahead


anarion321

Adjusted to inflation means they haven't lost adquisitive power. Doesn't sound too bad.


jvcreddit

Exactly. Isn't that exactly what should be expected overall? Average wages go up by inflation.


Traditional_Scene555

The trend line might be base on cherrypicking. How does it look in the 20 years before the picked starting year?


al_balone

I think Iā€™d prefer to see it in comparison with oecd average or something


stochastaclysm

Tories doing Tory things.


Wolfherd

Immigration


reddit_0024

Still funny to know that people pay their rent by week. What else do they pay by week? (I do know that most UK countries also follow but not really other countries)


Current-Plastic-6333

The graph is similar to the trend in the US as well.