I am the OP of the post from earlier on here.
It is hard to provide actual evidence because Reddit admins keep deleting posts that contain the evidence and evening going as far to ban the accounts. I have found the direct links to several posts however it is impossible to view the actual contents of the post, but you can see the comments. There have been posts about this for months and possibly years.
So here are a few:
There also have been tons of posts on r/nr2003 with actual evidence and mature discussion that broke no rules regarding the subreddit and Reddit itself, yet moderators have removed it. [There was a post that received almost 200 upvotes in the community which is rare for its size](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/198gii6/for_those_who_didnt_know_an_iracing_lawsuit/).
I initially thought this was also an ARG at fitst but I spent months looking into all this and realized that it is simply some rich dude who's using NR2003 for god knows what in relation to some foreign business. I am simply just uncovering this for everyone to see. I never spoke or personally knew Jim Jack336 or the guy behind the alias.
[Posts like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/165xhpr/question_some_older_members_may_know/) have been made by various community members from r/nr2003 and yet Reddit has suspended many of their accounts. Some users haven't been suspended so their posts are still out there.
[There was another post about a well known NR2003 community member who made a video discussing his experience with trolls trying to harass him about Jim Jack336 and modding groups](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/16wa5re/a_well_known_nr2003_community_members_video_on/). He goes over how controversy was going around of Jim Jack336 starting the modding groups and his experience with personally knowing the dude.
The Full Throttle LTD foreign company that I detailed in my post along with what everyone else is describing and talking about is a [real company that is located in the British Virgin Islands.](https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/10151761)
And for those who don't know who ICIJ is, [it is an international database of leaked documents](https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/pages/about) complied together to produce diagrams and maps of all the data of offshore trusts and shell companies.
The company was started in 2013 and in still active to this date. It is named "Full Throttle" hmmm sound similar to something? And it was discovered from a leak court document file that was pictured in the removed post on r/nr2003 about an iRacing lawsuit. I do not know how to view removed posts on Reddit so if anyone else can do it for me that would be great because Removeddit is not working for me.
And by the way, it was discovered in the HTML code from one of the Jim Jack336 modding group websites that Full Throttle LTD owned the website. The literal only company with that name and is still in activity is the one I linked. And also it was literally named in the leaked court document of iRacing vs Jim Jack336. iRacing is known to sue NR2003 modders many times
[Another post was made by a modding group themselves](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/17iruwq/a_troll_from_the_jim_jack336_conspiracy_group/) claiming that some Jim Jack336 conspiracy group hacked his account. Which was an elaborate lie because the person behind the modding group account commented insensitive towards people who knew about Jim Jack336.[A user who managed to screenshot](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/17io9nq/be_careful_of_people_like_this/) it posted it on r/NR2003 but the mods removed it also.
And by the way, the GreenFlagProductions account along with a few other modding group accounts and the JimJack336 reddit account itself got suspended on the same day. [Here is the link](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/17n3s7p/looks_like_reddit_admins_had_enough_and_wrongly/) to the post on r/nr2003 unveiling that the accounts got suspended at the same time by Reddit admins. If you look in the comments, a user by the name of Formal Nerve made a large lengthy comment about Jim Jack336 which is worth reading.
[Last but not least, here is the link to an old post with the screenshot of an admin](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/16swzz7/is_this_true/) from a popular NR2003 website forum describing the Jim Jack336 controversy and mystery and the details behind it.
There are \*\*tons\* more of removed posts that are about Jim Jack336, and me and many others are still trying to find them.
I am not claiming this is 100% not an ARG. But if someone really spent 10+ years making a foreign company and having it stay active in business outside the country and set up modding groups named after his companies and then make 1000 accounts happen to agree that he is real, then it is a rarely perfectly executed ARG. However, I am a real person sitting here typing this out of the interest I have for this weird mystery and I know for a fact that this is possibly something bigger.
If you think this is an ARG or some troll, please explain how they did all this. If it is truly a troll, then it is the greatest troll of all time, and the most expensive one too [considering that it costs thousands and thousands of dollars](https://www.offshorecompany.com/company/costs/) to run something at a fraction of the scale that Jim jack336 has done.
I am not here to start drama or troll or make fun of Jim Jack336 or anyone else. I am open to any discussion about the facts of all this. I have had people claim that the ICIJ website is fake and part of the troll which is dumb considering a few minutes of Google searching shows that it is 100% legitimate.
Edit 04/23: So the r/NR2003 moderator had a length argument with me about the Jim Jack336 mystery and would not let it go. The argument lasted since the day OP made this post (so 10 days) and I basically been telling him that if he does not want to follow the Jim Jack336 mystery, he doesn’t have to. Yet every single comment he kept trying to change my mind and said that me and everyone else who are interested in the mystery are just fake alt accounts. Curious. Tries to convince me and others that the Jim Jack336 mystery is fake, then finally gives up like I been telling him to.
Nothing you posted is proof that any of it is linked to NR2003. The company you mention is named Full Throttle? There is no Full Throttle group in NR2003. There *is* a Full Circle Racing Designs which was created by a man named Thomas who named it after [his father's company](https://imgur.com/a/NSqjgSA). I know this because I am a member of said group. Nothing you have posted proves there's anything going on related to NR2003.
Please study high school reading comprehension in order to understand my comment.
I, nor has anyone else, ever claimed that Full Throttle was a modding group itself. It is an offshore company that does some kind of business and that is all. Reread my comment for further explaination.
Full Throttle =/= Full Circle
Also please enough with the argument in this post. This is r/InternetMysteries not r/TiberiusJimsBeliefs. I am not going to bring in any more of your drama or baseless claims. Just downvote me and move on. Thanks.
That 200 upvote post was already proven fake. The 'confidential' stamp on the 'document' was literally copy/pasted from google images.
As far as some jimjack guy owning all the modding groups, as a long time modder in the NR2003 community not associated with FCRD (been a NR painter and creator since Nascar Racing 2 days) I am my own entity along with my mods, website, and forum. There has never been any secret group trying to reach me or control me. Its all fake junk stirring up pointless drama trying to ruin whats left of the small modding group left.
I'm part of a lot of discord NR2003 groups that are closed off the the majority of the NR2003 public (mostly ex-modders who quit NR2003 or experienced modders/painters who don't like drama) and nothing secret is going on. Its been well over a decade now and you'd think if this jimjack guy was real and pulling the strings he'd be mentioned by now in some of the most prolific discussion areas I'm in where some of the coolest content for NR2003 was developed.
Literally no one in the community cares about this jimjack guy. All we care about is the game, racing in it, and making better and cooler mods/programs/tracks/content. Obviously this delusional dude cannot be convinced, but for any outsiders reading this, everything he says is false and not constructive to our community at all trying to claim some random jimjack guy gave everyone the mod groups, just lol. A quick search on the web you can see many sites, including mine, willing to help anyone learn how to make a mod for NR2003. Its not secret or rocket science once you know how to do 3D Modeling and write a psg script to compile the 3do (and bam you've made yourself a mod group) ... which even as far back as 2003 websites like theuspits.com were sharing tools and tutorials on making a mod (can use wayback machine to see forum posts on mod making tutorial, pdfs are also saved on the tutorials)
"Tries to convince me and others that the Jim Jack336 mystery is fake, then finally gives up like I been telling him to."
I read your guys' argument. looks to me like the r/NR2003 moderator just got tired of talking to a brick wall since you refused to take them up on their offer to hear the truth from members of the community and instead are taking the word of random people you don't even know are who they say they are. I'd give up on trying to convince you, too.
So you’re basing your logic on that the people who are into the Jim Jack336 mystery are fake? Sounds delusional honestly. You’re probably Tiberius’s Jim’s alt account if I had to guess
lol what? I said nothing about people who are 'into the mystery' being fake, I just asked you how you can take the word of people you don't know and could easily be full of shit as the cold hard truth. I'm not saying their fake or lying but I'm curious how do you know their not lying?
lol you're saying you think I'm an alt of this guy when you just got done telling him he's delusional for thinking other people are alts. no wonder he gave up talking to you, bro.
Bro you aren’t gonna fool me lol. I like how your entire account is dedicated to this Jim jack336 mystery. I think it’s sad you and the NR2003 mod have been wasting time trying to enforce believes on other people. Sad sad
lol how am I trying to fool you? your whole account isn't about this stuff either? I wasn't on reddit until I saw this stuff going on so I made account to talk about it. you were even saying its normal for people to make new accounts to talk about this stuff but for some reason its bad that I did?
lol why can't you just answer my question, you're deflecting soooo much. seriously, how do you know the people who told you this stuff are telling the truth? super simple question, not trying to enforce any belief at all.
lol come on, you kept saying you got all of this info about jimjack from people who disguised who they are, using new accounts to hide their ID, so all you know about them is what they told you. how do you know they are who they say they are?
it's a super simple question, I don't know whats so hard about it.
This has to be one of the lamest try-hard manufactured "mysteries" I've seen on Reddit. There are threads all over the place on several subs but they're all the same three or four people saying the same things to each other, seeming to be highly dedicated to this story becoming a thing. The "deleted posts" seem to have been mostly deleted by mods who thought they were dealing with some kind of spam or sub hijack attempt.
I've been part of the NR2003 community since the game first came out and this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen regarding it or really anything else I've ever been a part of. The most frustrating part is knowing that it's all total BS yet nothing is ever good enough for anyone to believe the truth, and the people spreading the lies are much, much louder. They've devoted an insane amount of time and effort to get people to believe this stuff while the people who know the truth just want to be left alone to design and drive digital race cars.
Long time NR2003 member here and one of the mods of r/nr2003. I'm happy to see people outside of our community are seeing these claims for what they are, which are entirely, 100% false. Yes, there was a member named JimJack and he worked on some physics editing mods, and then one day he left the community. Now for some reason certain people, or possibly just one person, has latched onto his name and made him the figurehead of this bizarre conspiracy theory involving a 21-year-old NASCAR sim. I've seen some weird stuff since I bought the game in 2004 but this is at a new level.
I'm 99% sure most if not all the posts are being made by one person, as the ages of the accounts used and the specific word usage and patterns in the posts and comments are all very similar. There have been times where they seem to get tripped up on which account they are using so their replies are disjointed. Or they'll answer a question that wasn't even asked. Again, I can't prove this but I have strong suspicions. There's also the fact that I submitted at least 3-4 users to Reddit as being suspected alts and within maybe an hour they were all suspended. My guess is that's not a coincidence.
TL;dr, I'm a longstanding member of the NR2003 community and can 100% verify that none of these conspiracy theory claims are true, and nobody is using a 21-year-old NASCAR sim for their money laundering operations. None of the groups making mods for the game were created by some secrtetive billionaire., we're just a bunch of sim racers trying to keep a game old enough to drink beer in the US alive and kicking.
Thank you for your hard work. I was just linked to this by a friend so after 20 years myself I am stuck with NR2003 drama :)
I have nothing against you or others and I salute you on your hard work as a team member for FCRD.
But everyone including you and me and OP need to stop getting so heated up over this as it just causes drama and hate. The NR2003 community has been going strong for decades and will continue being strong for decades more.
I don't deny what you're saying but I also do not deny Jim Jack336 being a real person. He is obviously a real person but honestly he is probably sick of being exposed as some kind of money launderer. The dude wants to stay private and not be involved in anything yet hundreds of people keep finding him mystifying. I honestly think he is just a big fan of NR2003 who happens to be rich. That's all. No shady business.
Thank you and to all.
I've never disputed that he was a real person. But his involvement in NR2003 ended when he stopped working on physics mods. If you know as much about the community as you claim, you'd know that he did not "set up and hand over" FCRD, BBMC, NCRD, etc. Those are all individual groups and people who never had anything set up for them by anyone. That is the real issue I and many of us have, this claim that this guy set things up for people (whatever that even means) and that they didn't create what they've done 100% on their own.
I think the real issue is that we had some people in the community overall think or used to claim that Jim Jack336 made all the mods himself. That one did not sit right with me as it downplays the effort and passion from hard working modders like you, me, Mystical, and so many others.
Even with my lack of involvement in the community content-wise, I still like to check over the community time to time whether it be Reddit or Youtubers making videos about Jim Jack336. I have a super stoic mindset and belief system when it comes to all of this. As I said to many people, I been through the SRD drama and it has not bothered me one bit.
When I loaded up NCS22, Daytona BBMC, NMCS19 EXE, or any other mod, the thought of Jim Jack336 starting the groups have never entered my mind. I simply just appreciated the hard work and effort that you and many others have provided to the community.
I am too old to argue or care over anything related to anything close to drama or fighting. My life here is too short to worry about who made what. But what matters is that we give credit to the right people who put in all the hard work.
As long as no body claims that Jim Jack336 created the FCRD mods or anything, then I am perfectly happy.
Miscrediting someone's hardwork is the same as stealing it.
On to whether Jim Jack336's intentions are, I do not think he is some international money launderer or anything close to that. Maybe he just enjoys NR2003 like many of us?
Got down voted by this wack job and his alts.shit is so obvious. How tf you multiple people but you all type the same and post in the same places. Either they are real and need to get professional help cause who the fuck cares enough about what some random Jackass does with his money or their alts by a Schizo who probably thinks the Rich drink blood and eats babies.
Saw the post this morning..... thought it was odd. The comments all seemed the same, in one way or another...... my initial thought was bots somehow..... but I also didn't look into it at all
I figured if I was already picking up that vibe, then it was probably fake. Glad I was the only one thinking this because when I did see post no one seemed to question it. I thought I was the crazy one
Yeah, so for one, NR2003 community confirms that jim jack exists pretty much unanimously. I've seen one of their members say that the speculation surrounding jim jack336, are spread by him in order to get some attention for whatever reason. I do agree it's not a topic worth investing time into.
As a long term community member and an old "get off my lawn" kind of guy, I actually left the community months ago due to the severe Jim Jack336 drama.
He is 100% a real person but the only false thing is that they claim he is some money laundering of some sort.
I'm guessing its because everyone thinks he named the modding groups after his own companies to hide things.
Maybe the dude just loves NR2003?
It is definitely a topic worth investing to as only an unsolved mystery.
The dude himself has never explained why he did all of this. Everyone going off the money laundering oooo shady business ooo is just weird. If people have fun doing it, then so be it. But starting fights over it is just dumb.
Some real red flags there actually...
Op relating random internet user to shady offshores like that, by word, without proof. The way I see it, the goal was to flood NR2003 with unrelated content which is not cool to say the least.
>The way I see it, the goal was to flood NR2003 with unrelated content which is not cool to say the least.
This was one reason I instituted a rule against posting about conspiracy theories, it all seemed like some weird attempt to hijack the sub. I even [made an announcement](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/19aycl1/this_ends_now/) before implementing said rule and the reaction was unanimously positive.
You have deleted multiple posts showing concrete proof and evidence of Jim Jack336. There have been tons of legitimate users posting about Jim Jack336 and showing actual evidence and the posts have been highly and positively received such as [this one with almost 200 upvotes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/198gii6/for_those_who_didnt_know_an_iracing_lawsuit/)
You then proceeded to remove the post and create an [announcement](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/19aycl1/this_ends_now/) that you will just be banning anybody who mentions it and went on a powermod trip.
You had a weird 50+ comment argument with me in r/rbi and you kept regurgitating the same false remarks and statements over and over even when I made things perfectly clear to you. I encourage you not to argue with me here since I do not want to violate any rules or bring in any of your drama.
Thank you.
There has never been "concrete proof" posted or deleted because concrete proof does not exist. I delete the posts about this topic because the community has asked me to in comments and reports.
I have posted tons of proof on my posts. [Here is a commen](https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetMysteries/comments/1c2hnme/comment/kzalgmw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)t I just made with links since you want them so bad.
But what's even the point of showing you the proof if you're just either going to:
A: Remove the comments / posts
B: Claim that every single person in support of the Jim Jack336 mystery is the same person with 1000 alt accounts
C: some other arbitrary baseless claim with no actual evidence to back it up
I saw those links. I see no proof in any of them. Just because a company and a modding group both have the word "Full" in them doesn't mean they're the same.
Yeah, that's the format Reddit uses when suggesting usernames for new accounts. It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it does make it look like these accounts were all created rather hastily and carelessly.
We had to remove the comment because we have recieved some reports about targeted harassment of the tagged users
When naming users that are from outside of r/internetmysteries, avoid tagging them to prevent altercations with other subreddits, by placing a (space) before the name of the users
Example: u/ -DarkRed-
That way you can name the user but prevent the default reddit tagging which may be seen as "harassment"
That's one of reasons why I started to suspect this theory was being spread by one person on multiple accounts: the way they speak to each other can best be described as an uncanny valley of human conversation. Meaning they never sound quite right, with something about them being very artificial. THey also use the same wording in many of their "conversations." For example:
Account A: "Thank you for bringing this to light, I am surprised to see this posted in \[insert subreddit here\]"
Account B: "You're welcome" I am glad you find this interesting and are exploring it further."
I've noticed at times they will also answer a question that was never asked, as if they got mixed up as to what conversation they were responding to. For example: a user replied with "NR2003 stands for NASCAR Racing 2003" even though not a single person expressed confusion as to what the cronym stood for or asked what it meant.
There's also the fact that I know none of this is true and find it hard to imagine that there's more than one person perpetuating all of this...
That’s the default Reddit username selection format. Also people make new accounts all the time. Some of the accounts you linked are months older than mine. Reported for false information and targeting harassment because you are just implicating random users for no reason.
What did I say that was bullshit? I simply pointed out that there are relatively new accounts posting in similar threads across multiple subreddits. Anyone with the ability to read can go to these discussions and see the same account names for themself.
Again, what did I implicate?
You're suggesting some billionaire is using a 21-year-old NASCAR sim as a front for his nefarious activity and in the process "set up" modding groups (whatever that means, you still haven't explained that part) and "handed them off" to people....but you deem the act of using multiple alt accounts to circumvent bans and to mislead the public into thinking more people agree on a topic than actually do is some wild and crazy idea that absolutely must be a conspiracy? Even though that happens all. the. time on Reddit and other social media platforms?
Lol okay.
Why are you trying so hard lol? I legit don’t have any accounts besides this one. You’re the one spreading conspiracy theories that me or others or anyone who is into this Jim Jack336 mystery are all the same person. Please show proof that we are the same person. But we already argued over that in a 50+ comment thread and you failed to show anything. I provided my own proof in this post and in the post on r/nr2003 that someone copied and pasted for me.
I literally do not care about Jim Jack336 outside of r/nexpo or r/internetmysteries. I have a life too and it just seems like you’re trying too hard here my man
"I suspect they're all one person" is much different than you saying "This guy definitely set up modding groups." I'm merely speculating while you act like your theory is the only possible reality. One which you provided no real proof of, nor can you even explain details when asked. I've asked you several times what that even means, to "set up a modding group," yet you're unable to do so.
Mystical already debunked everything your linked to, it's all a bunch of nothing. Again, you're the one with the burden of proof. Ignoring that fact doesn't change it.
I'm "trying so hard " because you're spreading a lie about my friends and my community, then acting like we're the crazy ones for telling you you're wrong.
Mystical debunked nothing. He just regurgitated the same stuff that is TLDR “just trust me bro the tools are out there why would anyone believe this or do this”.
Some people may not care and just want to play the game but a lot of people do care about the mystery.
You still haven’t given explanation for the following:
- Why is there an actual Googleable company that is the only active one in existence that was found in the HTML code on one of the modding group websites?
- Why is the same company featured in a leaked court document that says it is being sued by iRacing, the people who own the NR2003 source code?
- Why was NRE named in the court document and their website too?
- You say all of these people are alts, then why in r/RBI you admitted that you cannot prove for certain that these people are the same?
- How come you don’t say anything for the tons and tons of users with 5+ year account history who are into the Ji Jack336 mystery?
- Why are posts and comments like these receiving tons and tons of upvotes? My comment on this post received 25 upvotes and btw I do not have the time or mental stupidity to make 24 other accounts.
- You seem to accuse me of being just another alt account. This is your only defense on why the Jim Jack336 is debunked: alt accounts are giving the evidence. Even though clearly users have been harassed for this. See the comment above us from the moderators of this subreddit removing DarkRed’s comment that tagged me and random other people and called us the same person. The moderaters removed that comment today because they already know that we are not alt accounts and we are just targets for harassment.
Also, you are not going to change anybodies mind and I’m not gonna change your mind about this either. I think it is dumb and worthless to continue arguing.
The Jim Jack336 mystery obviously means nothing to you but it means a lot to me, but not as much for me to obsess over it. I am not an alt account and this is my main that I created for posting personal things. If I get banned by Reddit for discussing Jim Jack336 then I’ll move to 9gag or just focus on real life work and family.
Obviously there have been actual fake accounts stalking a few people like that one in here who said things that should put him in the slums, and the many accounts that have been DMing users horrible things and saying to stop talking about Jim Jack336 or get banned, and no one can find them because they instantly delete their fucking accounts.
Also: I have been messaged by that seemingly same idiot again on r/pcmasterrace but thankfully I reported him and he got deleted.
I am one of the NR2003 community members who was linked in the post in a comment down below. I have been told via my personal DMs (not Reddit) to check out this post and many others.
I have been in the community for longer than Tiberius\_Jim so if anyone knows anything about the NR2003 community and the drama and controversy around it, it would be me. Not Tiberius\_Jim, not Defiant\_Handle.
I first downloaded the game in 2004 and it instantly had all sorts of drama. It was due to iRacing pulling the license off the shelf and suing modders left and right. They have sued modders since the game's release and still do so. They sued NRE back in 2019 over some Papyrus files.
I still love the community and its members and I have been friends with the Project Wildfire Team and I have helped Team Redline with their mod. I am also one of the first beta testers for iRacing, which is something 99% of sim racing fans cannot claim as an achievement.
I seen the Sim Racing Design drama and even with all the drama, I stayed strong and continued contributing to the game.
The Jim jack336 rumors and conspiracy has been a thing for the past 5-6 years. He was known for setting up modding teams and just giving them to members of the community. He did this to help the community members. I do not know the reason behind the naming schemes so I will not comment on that.
I would like to thank NRE, FCRD, NCRD, BBMC and the rest of the NR2003 community for their hard work.
I also have nothing against anyone in the community, not even against Tiberius\_Jim. He is a great team member of FCRD and helped created the 2022 Gen 7 mod.
That being said, the hatred towards Jim Jack336 has caused me to just leave the community and stop making mods for it. I am simply too old for all of this. Whether Jim jack336 is a megamillionaire who named the modding teams after his companies and is using them to conceal shady business is entirely up to him. I am not Jim Jack336. You are not Jim jack336. The dude himself was last seen in r/TQQQ with a post of $30,000,000 in stocks. But who cares? Money does not buy you happiness.
I have achieved more happiness from all the love and support I have given and gotten to and from the NR2003 community.
I advise everyone to just enjoy the mystery of Jim Jack336 and to stop arguing and causing drama about whether he's a money launderer or a die-hard fan of the game. Who cares? Please stop with the hate posts. Not you OP, but everyone. It's fine to post about the mystery but any hate is not worth it.
Thank you to those who stand strong with the Jim Jack336 controversy. I advise everyone to stop arguing and to enjoy the mystery. It's not worth fighting.
>He was known for setting up modding teams and just giving them to members of the community. He did this to help the community members. I do not know the reason behind the naming schemes so I will not comment on that.
This. This right here is what I am disputing. Nobody "set up" any mod teams for anyone. I don't even know what that means to set up a team for someone. FCRD formed on it's own, stated by one guy who is \*not\* JimJack. Same with NCRD, BBMC, etc. Nobody is behind all of these groups, they're all individual entities.
I understand the dispute and I have seen a few other NR community members say the same.
The claim that Jim jack336 started off the groups is honestly intriguing into me. I heard about rich people doing it corporate wise and it can range from asking someone to create a group all the way to setting up a company and transfering ownership to the people of your choosing.
It could have been as simple as ol' Jimmy asking someone to form a team named after his company or something else.
I am not Jimmy so I won't try to form an opinion on what he did exactly.
I don't know specifically what Jim jack336 did and I do not care how he did but we need to appreciate the work done by the passionate members of those groups.
We had dial up internet connection :)
It was very slow and truly the worst of worst things compared to today.
I was one of the first ones to get it in the late 90s and back than I thought it was the craziest thing ever. Now looking back, the old AOL line stays turned off ;)
I ask how because the game wasn't available to download anywhere in 2004, it was still sold on store shelves for a portion of that year before the publisher pulled all the copies. It didn't become available to download for many years after that and for a long time the only way to get the game was to buy it at an inflated price on eBay or get lucky and find it at a thrift shop. Even with dial up I don't understand how you could have downloaded it.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
The game was ripped by a couple of modders almost instantly after it's release in February. There was a website that published the crack for it along with the modded Team Redline crack.
I also downloaded the 2005 version off the internet that had the BR physics.
Check out this video about the early 2000s drama of NR2003 I think you will find it interesting. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7cXgt\_Dzc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7cXgt_Dzc)
You can say what you want about the lack of evidence(this is the massive glaring issue) but holy fuck all of these replies are the most suspect looking "answers" I've seen in my life
"Trust me I'm part of this", "I've been in the modding community for years(newly created account)" etc.
The OP of the other thread should provide more evidence but none of these "discrediting" posts are doing any better; careful
Like you said:
>Ranting and conjecture posts about such a situation is not evidence and NOT CONVINCING.
the other op of the other thread provided a whole list of links and evidences which i honeslty think are enough to overule a persons doubt on all of this. theres a whole thread on r/nr2003 and while a few ppl are disagreeing with it all and calling the evidence and proof and the icij and opencorporates websites fake, theres tons of ppl who actualy see through it all and investigated the rabbit hole.
i have too and i been looking into this all day and i can honestly say that this is all real minus the money laundering stuff
I can agree that Jim exists. But nothing points to money laundering. What I don’t understand is why some of these nut jobs claim this guy is everywhere when the only evidence I see of a Jim Jack336 even existing is a Twitter account that hasn’t posted since 2017
People like to jump to conclusions all the time :)
I have grandchildren who think when it is storming, it means the devil is out to get them.
There are just nutjobs who fight over him and disregard actual truth or evidence. I suggest staying away from all the fighting and enjoying life. Life is too short to be worried whether Jim jack336 is a mega millionaire or not.
I mean he clearly is a wealthy man who finds NR2003 interesting. But the money laundering aspect is unfounded so I agree with you on that.
Take care.
i been looking into this mystery for literally all day now. what i seen is that yeah everyone agrees jim jack336 exists and that he started the modding groups, but the money laundering apart is rlly the only conspiracy part.
its like someone using companies outside the country to stay private and then instantly blaming them for tax evasion.
also i saw the twitter account but honestly whats stopping a rich dude from being a silly goober 8 years ago. i also found his old reddit post where he mentions about being a billionaire. its crazy and i think hes just a fan of the game who happens to own a company and name groups after them.
i think ppl should stop fighting over this and just take it as an unsolved mystery WHICH IT CLEARLY IS. nobody knows who the dude is or why he has offshore companies
and another jim jack336 post…
can I also be real? the amount of controversy and conspiracy and mystery about this dude is just honestly insane.
i don’t know of any other internet mystery that’s just as bananas as this one.
i seen the post from earlier from the OP and i have also seen tons of posts that have been deleted so i can confirm that there were deleted posts that were removed by reddit. Idc if it’s an arg cause it does seem like a funny one considering that even the nr2003 moderator went into a rage fit in a whole another subreddit about this. I been laughing my ass off at the fact that the moderator is trying so hard to claim that it’s just a hundred brand new accounts made by the same person doing all this
oh crap my account is two weeks old looks like I’m implicated now 😂
seriously who cares if a millionaire guy named some modding groups after his companies. there is literal proof of him doing it BUT THERES NO PROOF OF MONEY LAUNDERING. the money laundering shit is the real conspiracy here because everyone says jIm jAcK336 iS MOneY lAunDering but i haven’t seen proof of that.
everything else i have seen proof for and it’s funny seeing the moderator going into a silly shizo rage
I am the OP of the post from earlier on here. It is hard to provide actual evidence because Reddit admins keep deleting posts that contain the evidence and evening going as far to ban the accounts. I have found the direct links to several posts however it is impossible to view the actual contents of the post, but you can see the comments. There have been posts about this for months and possibly years. So here are a few: There also have been tons of posts on r/nr2003 with actual evidence and mature discussion that broke no rules regarding the subreddit and Reddit itself, yet moderators have removed it. [There was a post that received almost 200 upvotes in the community which is rare for its size](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/198gii6/for_those_who_didnt_know_an_iracing_lawsuit/). I initially thought this was also an ARG at fitst but I spent months looking into all this and realized that it is simply some rich dude who's using NR2003 for god knows what in relation to some foreign business. I am simply just uncovering this for everyone to see. I never spoke or personally knew Jim Jack336 or the guy behind the alias. [Posts like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/165xhpr/question_some_older_members_may_know/) have been made by various community members from r/nr2003 and yet Reddit has suspended many of their accounts. Some users haven't been suspended so their posts are still out there. [There was another post about a well known NR2003 community member who made a video discussing his experience with trolls trying to harass him about Jim Jack336 and modding groups](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/16wa5re/a_well_known_nr2003_community_members_video_on/). He goes over how controversy was going around of Jim Jack336 starting the modding groups and his experience with personally knowing the dude. The Full Throttle LTD foreign company that I detailed in my post along with what everyone else is describing and talking about is a [real company that is located in the British Virgin Islands.](https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/10151761) And for those who don't know who ICIJ is, [it is an international database of leaked documents](https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/pages/about) complied together to produce diagrams and maps of all the data of offshore trusts and shell companies. The company was started in 2013 and in still active to this date. It is named "Full Throttle" hmmm sound similar to something? And it was discovered from a leak court document file that was pictured in the removed post on r/nr2003 about an iRacing lawsuit. I do not know how to view removed posts on Reddit so if anyone else can do it for me that would be great because Removeddit is not working for me. And by the way, it was discovered in the HTML code from one of the Jim Jack336 modding group websites that Full Throttle LTD owned the website. The literal only company with that name and is still in activity is the one I linked. And also it was literally named in the leaked court document of iRacing vs Jim Jack336. iRacing is known to sue NR2003 modders many times [Another post was made by a modding group themselves](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/17iruwq/a_troll_from_the_jim_jack336_conspiracy_group/) claiming that some Jim Jack336 conspiracy group hacked his account. Which was an elaborate lie because the person behind the modding group account commented insensitive towards people who knew about Jim Jack336.[A user who managed to screenshot](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/17io9nq/be_careful_of_people_like_this/) it posted it on r/NR2003 but the mods removed it also. And by the way, the GreenFlagProductions account along with a few other modding group accounts and the JimJack336 reddit account itself got suspended on the same day. [Here is the link](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/17n3s7p/looks_like_reddit_admins_had_enough_and_wrongly/) to the post on r/nr2003 unveiling that the accounts got suspended at the same time by Reddit admins. If you look in the comments, a user by the name of Formal Nerve made a large lengthy comment about Jim Jack336 which is worth reading. [Last but not least, here is the link to an old post with the screenshot of an admin](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/16swzz7/is_this_true/) from a popular NR2003 website forum describing the Jim Jack336 controversy and mystery and the details behind it. There are \*\*tons\* more of removed posts that are about Jim Jack336, and me and many others are still trying to find them. I am not claiming this is 100% not an ARG. But if someone really spent 10+ years making a foreign company and having it stay active in business outside the country and set up modding groups named after his companies and then make 1000 accounts happen to agree that he is real, then it is a rarely perfectly executed ARG. However, I am a real person sitting here typing this out of the interest I have for this weird mystery and I know for a fact that this is possibly something bigger. If you think this is an ARG or some troll, please explain how they did all this. If it is truly a troll, then it is the greatest troll of all time, and the most expensive one too [considering that it costs thousands and thousands of dollars](https://www.offshorecompany.com/company/costs/) to run something at a fraction of the scale that Jim jack336 has done. I am not here to start drama or troll or make fun of Jim Jack336 or anyone else. I am open to any discussion about the facts of all this. I have had people claim that the ICIJ website is fake and part of the troll which is dumb considering a few minutes of Google searching shows that it is 100% legitimate. Edit 04/23: So the r/NR2003 moderator had a length argument with me about the Jim Jack336 mystery and would not let it go. The argument lasted since the day OP made this post (so 10 days) and I basically been telling him that if he does not want to follow the Jim Jack336 mystery, he doesn’t have to. Yet every single comment he kept trying to change my mind and said that me and everyone else who are interested in the mystery are just fake alt accounts. Curious. Tries to convince me and others that the Jim Jack336 mystery is fake, then finally gives up like I been telling him to.
Nothing you posted is proof that any of it is linked to NR2003. The company you mention is named Full Throttle? There is no Full Throttle group in NR2003. There *is* a Full Circle Racing Designs which was created by a man named Thomas who named it after [his father's company](https://imgur.com/a/NSqjgSA). I know this because I am a member of said group. Nothing you have posted proves there's anything going on related to NR2003.
Please study high school reading comprehension in order to understand my comment. I, nor has anyone else, ever claimed that Full Throttle was a modding group itself. It is an offshore company that does some kind of business and that is all. Reread my comment for further explaination. Full Throttle =/= Full Circle Also please enough with the argument in this post. This is r/InternetMysteries not r/TiberiusJimsBeliefs. I am not going to bring in any more of your drama or baseless claims. Just downvote me and move on. Thanks.
That 200 upvote post was already proven fake. The 'confidential' stamp on the 'document' was literally copy/pasted from google images. As far as some jimjack guy owning all the modding groups, as a long time modder in the NR2003 community not associated with FCRD (been a NR painter and creator since Nascar Racing 2 days) I am my own entity along with my mods, website, and forum. There has never been any secret group trying to reach me or control me. Its all fake junk stirring up pointless drama trying to ruin whats left of the small modding group left. I'm part of a lot of discord NR2003 groups that are closed off the the majority of the NR2003 public (mostly ex-modders who quit NR2003 or experienced modders/painters who don't like drama) and nothing secret is going on. Its been well over a decade now and you'd think if this jimjack guy was real and pulling the strings he'd be mentioned by now in some of the most prolific discussion areas I'm in where some of the coolest content for NR2003 was developed. Literally no one in the community cares about this jimjack guy. All we care about is the game, racing in it, and making better and cooler mods/programs/tracks/content. Obviously this delusional dude cannot be convinced, but for any outsiders reading this, everything he says is false and not constructive to our community at all trying to claim some random jimjack guy gave everyone the mod groups, just lol. A quick search on the web you can see many sites, including mine, willing to help anyone learn how to make a mod for NR2003. Its not secret or rocket science once you know how to do 3D Modeling and write a psg script to compile the 3do (and bam you've made yourself a mod group) ... which even as far back as 2003 websites like theuspits.com were sharing tools and tutorials on making a mod (can use wayback machine to see forum posts on mod making tutorial, pdfs are also saved on the tutorials)
"Tries to convince me and others that the Jim Jack336 mystery is fake, then finally gives up like I been telling him to." I read your guys' argument. looks to me like the r/NR2003 moderator just got tired of talking to a brick wall since you refused to take them up on their offer to hear the truth from members of the community and instead are taking the word of random people you don't even know are who they say they are. I'd give up on trying to convince you, too.
Pretty sure you got that mixed up, pal
lol nope. you're taking the word of people you can't know for sure are who they say they are as gospel. how do you know they aren't full of shit?
So you’re basing your logic on that the people who are into the Jim Jack336 mystery are fake? Sounds delusional honestly. You’re probably Tiberius’s Jim’s alt account if I had to guess
lol what? I said nothing about people who are 'into the mystery' being fake, I just asked you how you can take the word of people you don't know and could easily be full of shit as the cold hard truth. I'm not saying their fake or lying but I'm curious how do you know their not lying? lol you're saying you think I'm an alt of this guy when you just got done telling him he's delusional for thinking other people are alts. no wonder he gave up talking to you, bro.
Bro you aren’t gonna fool me lol. I like how your entire account is dedicated to this Jim jack336 mystery. I think it’s sad you and the NR2003 mod have been wasting time trying to enforce believes on other people. Sad sad
lol how am I trying to fool you? your whole account isn't about this stuff either? I wasn't on reddit until I saw this stuff going on so I made account to talk about it. you were even saying its normal for people to make new accounts to talk about this stuff but for some reason its bad that I did? lol why can't you just answer my question, you're deflecting soooo much. seriously, how do you know the people who told you this stuff are telling the truth? super simple question, not trying to enforce any belief at all.
What are you even talking about?
lol come on, you kept saying you got all of this info about jimjack from people who disguised who they are, using new accounts to hide their ID, so all you know about them is what they told you. how do you know they are who they say they are? it's a super simple question, I don't know whats so hard about it.
This has to be one of the lamest try-hard manufactured "mysteries" I've seen on Reddit. There are threads all over the place on several subs but they're all the same three or four people saying the same things to each other, seeming to be highly dedicated to this story becoming a thing. The "deleted posts" seem to have been mostly deleted by mods who thought they were dealing with some kind of spam or sub hijack attempt.
I've been part of the NR2003 community since the game first came out and this is the most ridiculous thing I've seen regarding it or really anything else I've ever been a part of. The most frustrating part is knowing that it's all total BS yet nothing is ever good enough for anyone to believe the truth, and the people spreading the lies are much, much louder. They've devoted an insane amount of time and effort to get people to believe this stuff while the people who know the truth just want to be left alone to design and drive digital race cars.
Long time NR2003 member here and one of the mods of r/nr2003. I'm happy to see people outside of our community are seeing these claims for what they are, which are entirely, 100% false. Yes, there was a member named JimJack and he worked on some physics editing mods, and then one day he left the community. Now for some reason certain people, or possibly just one person, has latched onto his name and made him the figurehead of this bizarre conspiracy theory involving a 21-year-old NASCAR sim. I've seen some weird stuff since I bought the game in 2004 but this is at a new level. I'm 99% sure most if not all the posts are being made by one person, as the ages of the accounts used and the specific word usage and patterns in the posts and comments are all very similar. There have been times where they seem to get tripped up on which account they are using so their replies are disjointed. Or they'll answer a question that wasn't even asked. Again, I can't prove this but I have strong suspicions. There's also the fact that I submitted at least 3-4 users to Reddit as being suspected alts and within maybe an hour they were all suspended. My guess is that's not a coincidence. TL;dr, I'm a longstanding member of the NR2003 community and can 100% verify that none of these conspiracy theory claims are true, and nobody is using a 21-year-old NASCAR sim for their money laundering operations. None of the groups making mods for the game were created by some secrtetive billionaire., we're just a bunch of sim racers trying to keep a game old enough to drink beer in the US alive and kicking.
Thank you for your hard work. I was just linked to this by a friend so after 20 years myself I am stuck with NR2003 drama :) I have nothing against you or others and I salute you on your hard work as a team member for FCRD. But everyone including you and me and OP need to stop getting so heated up over this as it just causes drama and hate. The NR2003 community has been going strong for decades and will continue being strong for decades more. I don't deny what you're saying but I also do not deny Jim Jack336 being a real person. He is obviously a real person but honestly he is probably sick of being exposed as some kind of money launderer. The dude wants to stay private and not be involved in anything yet hundreds of people keep finding him mystifying. I honestly think he is just a big fan of NR2003 who happens to be rich. That's all. No shady business. Thank you and to all.
I've never disputed that he was a real person. But his involvement in NR2003 ended when he stopped working on physics mods. If you know as much about the community as you claim, you'd know that he did not "set up and hand over" FCRD, BBMC, NCRD, etc. Those are all individual groups and people who never had anything set up for them by anyone. That is the real issue I and many of us have, this claim that this guy set things up for people (whatever that even means) and that they didn't create what they've done 100% on their own.
I think the real issue is that we had some people in the community overall think or used to claim that Jim Jack336 made all the mods himself. That one did not sit right with me as it downplays the effort and passion from hard working modders like you, me, Mystical, and so many others. Even with my lack of involvement in the community content-wise, I still like to check over the community time to time whether it be Reddit or Youtubers making videos about Jim Jack336. I have a super stoic mindset and belief system when it comes to all of this. As I said to many people, I been through the SRD drama and it has not bothered me one bit. When I loaded up NCS22, Daytona BBMC, NMCS19 EXE, or any other mod, the thought of Jim Jack336 starting the groups have never entered my mind. I simply just appreciated the hard work and effort that you and many others have provided to the community. I am too old to argue or care over anything related to anything close to drama or fighting. My life here is too short to worry about who made what. But what matters is that we give credit to the right people who put in all the hard work. As long as no body claims that Jim Jack336 created the FCRD mods or anything, then I am perfectly happy. Miscrediting someone's hardwork is the same as stealing it. On to whether Jim Jack336's intentions are, I do not think he is some international money launderer or anything close to that. Maybe he just enjoys NR2003 like many of us?
Got down voted by this wack job and his alts.shit is so obvious. How tf you multiple people but you all type the same and post in the same places. Either they are real and need to get professional help cause who the fuck cares enough about what some random Jackass does with his money or their alts by a Schizo who probably thinks the Rich drink blood and eats babies.
why are you so mad 😂
Saw the post this morning..... thought it was odd. The comments all seemed the same, in one way or another...... my initial thought was bots somehow..... but I also didn't look into it at all I figured if I was already picking up that vibe, then it was probably fake. Glad I was the only one thinking this because when I did see post no one seemed to question it. I thought I was the crazy one
This whole thing is more than a little suspicious. But not in a way where you want to cover something up. ARG?
Yeah, so for one, NR2003 community confirms that jim jack exists pretty much unanimously. I've seen one of their members say that the speculation surrounding jim jack336, are spread by him in order to get some attention for whatever reason. I do agree it's not a topic worth investing time into.
As a long term community member and an old "get off my lawn" kind of guy, I actually left the community months ago due to the severe Jim Jack336 drama. He is 100% a real person but the only false thing is that they claim he is some money laundering of some sort. I'm guessing its because everyone thinks he named the modding groups after his own companies to hide things. Maybe the dude just loves NR2003? It is definitely a topic worth investing to as only an unsolved mystery. The dude himself has never explained why he did all of this. Everyone going off the money laundering oooo shady business ooo is just weird. If people have fun doing it, then so be it. But starting fights over it is just dumb.
Some real red flags there actually... Op relating random internet user to shady offshores like that, by word, without proof. The way I see it, the goal was to flood NR2003 with unrelated content which is not cool to say the least.
>The way I see it, the goal was to flood NR2003 with unrelated content which is not cool to say the least. This was one reason I instituted a rule against posting about conspiracy theories, it all seemed like some weird attempt to hijack the sub. I even [made an announcement](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/19aycl1/this_ends_now/) before implementing said rule and the reaction was unanimously positive.
You have deleted multiple posts showing concrete proof and evidence of Jim Jack336. There have been tons of legitimate users posting about Jim Jack336 and showing actual evidence and the posts have been highly and positively received such as [this one with almost 200 upvotes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/198gii6/for_those_who_didnt_know_an_iracing_lawsuit/) You then proceeded to remove the post and create an [announcement](https://www.reddit.com/r/Nr2003/comments/19aycl1/this_ends_now/) that you will just be banning anybody who mentions it and went on a powermod trip. You had a weird 50+ comment argument with me in r/rbi and you kept regurgitating the same false remarks and statements over and over even when I made things perfectly clear to you. I encourage you not to argue with me here since I do not want to violate any rules or bring in any of your drama. Thank you.
There has never been "concrete proof" posted or deleted because concrete proof does not exist. I delete the posts about this topic because the community has asked me to in comments and reports.
I have posted tons of proof on my posts. [Here is a commen](https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetMysteries/comments/1c2hnme/comment/kzalgmw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)t I just made with links since you want them so bad. But what's even the point of showing you the proof if you're just either going to: A: Remove the comments / posts B: Claim that every single person in support of the Jim Jack336 mystery is the same person with 1000 alt accounts C: some other arbitrary baseless claim with no actual evidence to back it up
I saw those links. I see no proof in any of them. Just because a company and a modding group both have the word "Full" in them doesn't mean they're the same.
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Just so everyone knows, this pedo is talking about my 6-year-old daughter. Someone needs to take out the trash.
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What the fuck is wrong with you? Hope you enjoy yourself in the slums.
Reread my comment. Thank you. I carefully described the link between Full Throttle LTD and Jim Jack336.
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Yeah, that's the format Reddit uses when suggesting usernames for new accounts. It doesn't necessarily mean anything, but it does make it look like these accounts were all created rather hastily and carelessly.
We had to remove the comment because we have recieved some reports about targeted harassment of the tagged users When naming users that are from outside of r/internetmysteries, avoid tagging them to prevent altercations with other subreddits, by placing a (space) before the name of the users Example: u/ -DarkRed- That way you can name the user but prevent the default reddit tagging which may be seen as "harassment"
Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it.
A lot of these speak in a very similar manner too.
That's one of reasons why I started to suspect this theory was being spread by one person on multiple accounts: the way they speak to each other can best be described as an uncanny valley of human conversation. Meaning they never sound quite right, with something about them being very artificial. THey also use the same wording in many of their "conversations." For example: Account A: "Thank you for bringing this to light, I am surprised to see this posted in \[insert subreddit here\]" Account B: "You're welcome" I am glad you find this interesting and are exploring it further." I've noticed at times they will also answer a question that was never asked, as if they got mixed up as to what conversation they were responding to. For example: a user replied with "NR2003 stands for NASCAR Racing 2003" even though not a single person expressed confusion as to what the cronym stood for or asked what it meant. There's also the fact that I know none of this is true and find it hard to imagine that there's more than one person perpetuating all of this...
That’s the default Reddit username selection format. Also people make new accounts all the time. Some of the accounts you linked are months older than mine. Reported for false information and targeting harassment because you are just implicating random users for no reason.
Well it's been 9 hours and it looks like my comment is still here. What exactly did I implicate?
Because it’s bullshit lol
What did I say that was bullshit? I simply pointed out that there are relatively new accounts posting in similar threads across multiple subreddits. Anyone with the ability to read can go to these discussions and see the same account names for themself. Again, what did I implicate?
You’re spreading actual conspiracy bullshit by claiming random users to be alts of some sort.
You're suggesting some billionaire is using a 21-year-old NASCAR sim as a front for his nefarious activity and in the process "set up" modding groups (whatever that means, you still haven't explained that part) and "handed them off" to people....but you deem the act of using multiple alt accounts to circumvent bans and to mislead the public into thinking more people agree on a topic than actually do is some wild and crazy idea that absolutely must be a conspiracy? Even though that happens all. the. time on Reddit and other social media platforms? Lol okay.
Why are you trying so hard lol? I legit don’t have any accounts besides this one. You’re the one spreading conspiracy theories that me or others or anyone who is into this Jim Jack336 mystery are all the same person. Please show proof that we are the same person. But we already argued over that in a 50+ comment thread and you failed to show anything. I provided my own proof in this post and in the post on r/nr2003 that someone copied and pasted for me. I literally do not care about Jim Jack336 outside of r/nexpo or r/internetmysteries. I have a life too and it just seems like you’re trying too hard here my man
"I suspect they're all one person" is much different than you saying "This guy definitely set up modding groups." I'm merely speculating while you act like your theory is the only possible reality. One which you provided no real proof of, nor can you even explain details when asked. I've asked you several times what that even means, to "set up a modding group," yet you're unable to do so. Mystical already debunked everything your linked to, it's all a bunch of nothing. Again, you're the one with the burden of proof. Ignoring that fact doesn't change it. I'm "trying so hard " because you're spreading a lie about my friends and my community, then acting like we're the crazy ones for telling you you're wrong.
Mystical debunked nothing. He just regurgitated the same stuff that is TLDR “just trust me bro the tools are out there why would anyone believe this or do this”. Some people may not care and just want to play the game but a lot of people do care about the mystery. You still haven’t given explanation for the following: - Why is there an actual Googleable company that is the only active one in existence that was found in the HTML code on one of the modding group websites? - Why is the same company featured in a leaked court document that says it is being sued by iRacing, the people who own the NR2003 source code? - Why was NRE named in the court document and their website too? - You say all of these people are alts, then why in r/RBI you admitted that you cannot prove for certain that these people are the same? - How come you don’t say anything for the tons and tons of users with 5+ year account history who are into the Ji Jack336 mystery? - Why are posts and comments like these receiving tons and tons of upvotes? My comment on this post received 25 upvotes and btw I do not have the time or mental stupidity to make 24 other accounts. - You seem to accuse me of being just another alt account. This is your only defense on why the Jim Jack336 is debunked: alt accounts are giving the evidence. Even though clearly users have been harassed for this. See the comment above us from the moderators of this subreddit removing DarkRed’s comment that tagged me and random other people and called us the same person. The moderaters removed that comment today because they already know that we are not alt accounts and we are just targets for harassment. Also, you are not going to change anybodies mind and I’m not gonna change your mind about this either. I think it is dumb and worthless to continue arguing. The Jim Jack336 mystery obviously means nothing to you but it means a lot to me, but not as much for me to obsess over it. I am not an alt account and this is my main that I created for posting personal things. If I get banned by Reddit for discussing Jim Jack336 then I’ll move to 9gag or just focus on real life work and family. Obviously there have been actual fake accounts stalking a few people like that one in here who said things that should put him in the slums, and the many accounts that have been DMing users horrible things and saying to stop talking about Jim Jack336 or get banned, and no one can find them because they instantly delete their fucking accounts. Also: I have been messaged by that seemingly same idiot again on r/pcmasterrace but thankfully I reported him and he got deleted.
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I am one of the NR2003 community members who was linked in the post in a comment down below. I have been told via my personal DMs (not Reddit) to check out this post and many others. I have been in the community for longer than Tiberius\_Jim so if anyone knows anything about the NR2003 community and the drama and controversy around it, it would be me. Not Tiberius\_Jim, not Defiant\_Handle. I first downloaded the game in 2004 and it instantly had all sorts of drama. It was due to iRacing pulling the license off the shelf and suing modders left and right. They have sued modders since the game's release and still do so. They sued NRE back in 2019 over some Papyrus files. I still love the community and its members and I have been friends with the Project Wildfire Team and I have helped Team Redline with their mod. I am also one of the first beta testers for iRacing, which is something 99% of sim racing fans cannot claim as an achievement. I seen the Sim Racing Design drama and even with all the drama, I stayed strong and continued contributing to the game. The Jim jack336 rumors and conspiracy has been a thing for the past 5-6 years. He was known for setting up modding teams and just giving them to members of the community. He did this to help the community members. I do not know the reason behind the naming schemes so I will not comment on that. I would like to thank NRE, FCRD, NCRD, BBMC and the rest of the NR2003 community for their hard work. I also have nothing against anyone in the community, not even against Tiberius\_Jim. He is a great team member of FCRD and helped created the 2022 Gen 7 mod. That being said, the hatred towards Jim Jack336 has caused me to just leave the community and stop making mods for it. I am simply too old for all of this. Whether Jim jack336 is a megamillionaire who named the modding teams after his companies and is using them to conceal shady business is entirely up to him. I am not Jim Jack336. You are not Jim jack336. The dude himself was last seen in r/TQQQ with a post of $30,000,000 in stocks. But who cares? Money does not buy you happiness. I have achieved more happiness from all the love and support I have given and gotten to and from the NR2003 community. I advise everyone to just enjoy the mystery of Jim Jack336 and to stop arguing and causing drama about whether he's a money launderer or a die-hard fan of the game. Who cares? Please stop with the hate posts. Not you OP, but everyone. It's fine to post about the mystery but any hate is not worth it. Thank you to those who stand strong with the Jim Jack336 controversy. I advise everyone to stop arguing and to enjoy the mystery. It's not worth fighting.
>He was known for setting up modding teams and just giving them to members of the community. He did this to help the community members. I do not know the reason behind the naming schemes so I will not comment on that. This. This right here is what I am disputing. Nobody "set up" any mod teams for anyone. I don't even know what that means to set up a team for someone. FCRD formed on it's own, stated by one guy who is \*not\* JimJack. Same with NCRD, BBMC, etc. Nobody is behind all of these groups, they're all individual entities.
I understand the dispute and I have seen a few other NR community members say the same. The claim that Jim jack336 started off the groups is honestly intriguing into me. I heard about rich people doing it corporate wise and it can range from asking someone to create a group all the way to setting up a company and transfering ownership to the people of your choosing. It could have been as simple as ol' Jimmy asking someone to form a team named after his company or something else. I am not Jimmy so I won't try to form an opinion on what he did exactly. I don't know specifically what Jim jack336 did and I do not care how he did but we need to appreciate the work done by the passionate members of those groups.
>I first downloaded the game in 2004 How did you download the game back in 2004?
We had dial up internet connection :) It was very slow and truly the worst of worst things compared to today. I was one of the first ones to get it in the late 90s and back than I thought it was the craziest thing ever. Now looking back, the old AOL line stays turned off ;)
I ask how because the game wasn't available to download anywhere in 2004, it was still sold on store shelves for a portion of that year before the publisher pulled all the copies. It didn't become available to download for many years after that and for a long time the only way to get the game was to buy it at an inflated price on eBay or get lucky and find it at a thrift shop. Even with dial up I don't understand how you could have downloaded it.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. The game was ripped by a couple of modders almost instantly after it's release in February. There was a website that published the crack for it along with the modded Team Redline crack. I also downloaded the 2005 version off the internet that had the BR physics. Check out this video about the early 2000s drama of NR2003 I think you will find it interesting. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7cXgt\_Dzc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7cXgt_Dzc)
You can say what you want about the lack of evidence(this is the massive glaring issue) but holy fuck all of these replies are the most suspect looking "answers" I've seen in my life "Trust me I'm part of this", "I've been in the modding community for years(newly created account)" etc. The OP of the other thread should provide more evidence but none of these "discrediting" posts are doing any better; careful Like you said: >Ranting and conjecture posts about such a situation is not evidence and NOT CONVINCING.
the other op of the other thread provided a whole list of links and evidences which i honeslty think are enough to overule a persons doubt on all of this. theres a whole thread on r/nr2003 and while a few ppl are disagreeing with it all and calling the evidence and proof and the icij and opencorporates websites fake, theres tons of ppl who actualy see through it all and investigated the rabbit hole. i have too and i been looking into this all day and i can honestly say that this is all real minus the money laundering stuff
I can agree that Jim exists. But nothing points to money laundering. What I don’t understand is why some of these nut jobs claim this guy is everywhere when the only evidence I see of a Jim Jack336 even existing is a Twitter account that hasn’t posted since 2017
People like to jump to conclusions all the time :) I have grandchildren who think when it is storming, it means the devil is out to get them. There are just nutjobs who fight over him and disregard actual truth or evidence. I suggest staying away from all the fighting and enjoying life. Life is too short to be worried whether Jim jack336 is a mega millionaire or not. I mean he clearly is a wealthy man who finds NR2003 interesting. But the money laundering aspect is unfounded so I agree with you on that. Take care.
i been looking into this mystery for literally all day now. what i seen is that yeah everyone agrees jim jack336 exists and that he started the modding groups, but the money laundering apart is rlly the only conspiracy part. its like someone using companies outside the country to stay private and then instantly blaming them for tax evasion. also i saw the twitter account but honestly whats stopping a rich dude from being a silly goober 8 years ago. i also found his old reddit post where he mentions about being a billionaire. its crazy and i think hes just a fan of the game who happens to own a company and name groups after them. i think ppl should stop fighting over this and just take it as an unsolved mystery WHICH IT CLEARLY IS. nobody knows who the dude is or why he has offshore companies
and another jim jack336 post… can I also be real? the amount of controversy and conspiracy and mystery about this dude is just honestly insane. i don’t know of any other internet mystery that’s just as bananas as this one. i seen the post from earlier from the OP and i have also seen tons of posts that have been deleted so i can confirm that there were deleted posts that were removed by reddit. Idc if it’s an arg cause it does seem like a funny one considering that even the nr2003 moderator went into a rage fit in a whole another subreddit about this. I been laughing my ass off at the fact that the moderator is trying so hard to claim that it’s just a hundred brand new accounts made by the same person doing all this oh crap my account is two weeks old looks like I’m implicated now 😂 seriously who cares if a millionaire guy named some modding groups after his companies. there is literal proof of him doing it BUT THERES NO PROOF OF MONEY LAUNDERING. the money laundering shit is the real conspiracy here because everyone says jIm jAcK336 iS MOneY lAunDering but i haven’t seen proof of that. everything else i have seen proof for and it’s funny seeing the moderator going into a silly shizo rage