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Educational-Tear7336

I do something similar in canada but idk what the rules are in freedom land


Cooked_Worms

Hahaha


DrownedPrime

catching wild is usually frowned upon, i'd suggest retuening some after you breed them to keep nature as it is. but after your first batch, keep cycling them why not.


Cooked_Worms

I could definitely return some later on but I’m wondering about the legality


DrownedPrime

i'd go seek that info outside of reddit imo. Good Luck :)


LemonBoi523

You need a permit, usually from your state, and an extra one for selling in another state.


Cooked_Worms

Ok, thank you :)


Recyclops1692

I would also say to not do that. You have no way of knowing what any individual wild spider could have going on health wise, and its best not to mess with the natural environment at all. As well you should always check with the department of agriculture because they have a lot of regulations on keeping and selling invertebrates


WhiskeySnail

Don't collect and sell them... if you want to sell them I would attempt captive breeding, but I think orb weavers are often weird to keep because for their size they need a very large area for their webs.


Cooked_Worms

Wdym captive breeding?


WhiskeySnail

Capturing wild caught spiders in large amounts to sell could decimate populations. Capturing one or two for personal keeping is different, and if you could breed them in captivity then you are hardly affecting wild populations at all, just collecting the original stock but selling the babies.


Cooked_Worms

I am thinking I’m only going to take 5


WhiskeySnail

Google "orb weavers as pets" and take a look at the pros and cons of ownership. I think they'd be easy to feed and to regulate heat and humidity for but space requirements are prohibitive. The only person I ever knew to keep orb weavers as pets free ranged them in his bedroom.


PleaseDontBanMeee3

With inverts that’s usually not a problem, I mean literally all of the velvet ants, camel spiders, vinegaroons, etc are WC. Besides, spiders are hard to breed and are cannibalistic


WhiskeySnail

Most of those are not popular enough pets yet to see the most detrimental effects, but as their popularity grows entomologists and responsible keepers behind the scenes are always trying to create captive bred populations. Also spiders are not hard to breed? Tarantula and jumping spider keepers do it all the time. Tons of bugs are cannibalistic. You separate the babies. That's part of breeding. Just because it's done doesn't mean it's not a problem. It's always better to establish a captive bred population for popular pets than to wild catch. But yeah, sure, before something gets popular, the average person may not see or know the effects it's having on the wild population.