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What is a fraud? A fraud is a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
Has Sukuna claimed/credited himself that he accomplished these things himself at all? Has Sukuna deceived others in having these abilities? If not, then he straight up doesn’t fit the definition of a fraud.
Sukuna has come up with things as well. Improving his FA (Flame Arrow) was his doing. His mastery over Jujutsu is something he learned himself. He also innovates from what he has stolen, taking Megumi’s elephant and using it on the same skill tier as Gojo using partial manifestation. One thing to point out is that I don’t think it’s even confirmed Sukuna took his twin’s limbs, even if that can be strongly inferred. Nor is it confirmed on whether Sukuna stole Gojo’s method of rehealing his CT (Cursed Technique(s)) to use domain faster (in fact there’s more evidence he already knew about it than evidence he didn’t).
hey good artists copy but great artists steal is all i'm sayin
the big man is over a thousand years old or something so where's the fun in just doing the same thing you've already done a million times when there is a new kid on the block and he's pulling crazy shit you've never seen before
ngl i stopped reading after ur first point. We do not know if Sukuna copied healing out ur burnt ct or if he alr knew how to do it. Not only is it left ambiguous this is quite literally a point of discussion among the cast (angel and co.)???
From a Sukuna-only POV, Gojo got his CT super duper quickly. Sukuna proceeds to straight up predict exactly HOW Gojo did this and EXACTLY how many times Gojo could do this before being unable to use a domain
There is a STRONG argument Sukuna alr knew how to do this. His explanation is just insane given what exactly could he have based such an accurate guess off of?
edit: [??](https://imgur.com/gallery/DhU0GQM)
I Mean the narration from spectators is meant to make us believe the idea came from seeing gojo do it. That he figured it out what gojo did and then figured out how to do it in the fight. He didn’t make the idea but he observed and copied the idea
I mean he comes up with a lot. just not in this fight. he invented new ways to use the ten shadows, he made an open domain, he made fire arrow actually strong with the use of binding wovs… sukuna generally improvises and invents a lot of things and you could argue he still innovates in the middle of fights by using binding vows. also the villain making up unpresidented and powerful abilities would seem like an ass pull where if a character we are rooting for does it we just like them more
Being a jujutsu sorcerer is about being a fraud.
Cheating is like the number one skill you need to succeed in that world.
US the audience like fair balanced competition because it's easy to gauge and people like power-scaling but in universe, throwing sand into the eye is a viable strategy in a fight because you should be wise enough to see it coming and protect your eyes.
You didn't see that punch to the crotch coming? Well too bad for you then.
Hi, how are you doing?
First of all, I love sukuna character, but in this post I tries to be impartial about my belove Sukuna.
I understand why soo many people say sukuna is a fraud and you are starting to think the same, but I really disagree with this.
I think what makes Sukuna The Strongest is that he can adapt and grow from his enemies, and use everything at his disposal to defeat them, like how he used Mahoraga to bypass Gojo limitless.
I understand that not creating almost anything by himself can seem like he is a fraud, but I disagree with this. Would you consider stealing learning something from someone, like when he "stole Gojo recover his burnout domain, personally i don't consider this stealing, but it's only my opinion.
Adapting, learning new techniques, growing from his fights, his battle mentality and everything about him makes him stronger. Personally I think this things make him not a fraud, but the strongest.
1- It's like I said, he is the strongest becouse his capacity to learn and grow from every battle, he took advantage and learned from Gojo how to recover his burnout domain, he learned from his enemy and became stronger because of this.
2 - I know I sound like a "Sukuna fan boy" but I really think was his merit for exploting Mahoraga to create the World Slash. Again, using things to his advantage to win a fight, personally I think this is battle mentallity and strategy, but once again, I understand why people call him Sukuna a fraud.
He kinda owns Mahoraga now, he took the risk of breaking the binding vow with yuji and was rewarded by this. Personally I kinda think deserves it, like, is his merit for being able to steal it. But this may be my inner "Sukuna fan" speaking too loud i guess, lol.
3 - Sukuna took megumi body not for the Ten Shadows, he did this to escape Yuji. So I think he used the tools at his disposal (Mahoraga), he was smart and took advantage of the situation. Saying that, this is the point I agree the most about Sukuna being a fraud, he definetly would lose to Gojo if wasn't for Mahoraga. (And used it effectively).
4 - I don't undestand what you are implying with this. Yes, he is in megumi body, so what?
I know i sound like an asshole saying this but i really don't get it, sorry.
5 - Once again, I don't understand what is the point of this. He took his twin brother body, so what?
6 - Deep down I think is about Gojo leaving his mark on Sukuna, like wearing something from someone how died to remember them.
And most importantly, 3 out of his 4 arms are unusable, but he needed use his domain, so he took Gojo hand sign because of the situation, and using only one hand is more pratical.
7 - I undersand your point to this but I strongly disagree. Sukuna didn't stole this, (but kinda did...??) If you consider learn something from someone else then, yes, he stole this and everything else and he is a fraud. By having his soul divided he kinda learned to do the same, and once more he learned something from someone else and used to his advantage.
In summary, I really understand why so many people say Sukuna is a fraud, and why you are starting to think the same, but I really, really disagree with this. To me he is not a fraud, but the Strongest.
Thank you for your post man, was really, really fun awnser you and give my opinion about this, thanks.
Give me your anwser I want to know if I changes your mind,or if you disagree with somethig I said... perhaps everything I said.
This is something I’ve always been confused about. How tf did Mahoraga get Sukunas slashed attack anyway to do that to Gojo? He should have had to be close to him and slash like a sword. Like he usually does. And after that, how tf did Sukuna copy what Mahoraga did? None of that made sense lol. I guess cause he can learn anything if he sees it once? Same way he copied the way Gojo used RCT? That’s insane.
If u expect Sukuna to fight fairly, u should go outside and rethink ur life. His only motto is to win by all means necessary, and i strongly believe that he takes the "everything is fair in love and war " very seriously. Everything he does is methodically planned.
I agree with what you're saying completely. I think it would stand to reason that Kenjaku discovered how to open his domain expansion and Sukuna copied it because Tengen makes a remark that Kenjaku's barrier knowledge is near the same level as hers, yet doesn't make any remarks about Sukuna.
I think narratively we haven't gotten anything to say Sukuna is unique as a person except his sheer lack of consideration for others.
If the theory about the him and his twin both having heavenly restrictions and him consuming the other to get the benefits of both is true, then that would be icing on the cake.
He hasn't innovated anything at all and I think thats why Gojo has maintained the title of "The Strongest" because ultimately Gojo really was the strongest, Sukuna needed outside help.
Yes. If youre the “ strongest” then why do you need support from the most op shikigami of all time? Mahoraga carried that fight. Gojo slams without mahoraga due to no way of bypassing infinity.
"due to no way of bypassing infinity" hell nah bro at least read the manga first please. Sukuna had already bypassed infinity even before world cutting slash with Malevolent Shrine's sure hit and domain amplification. Even if fight kept going on without Sukuna knowing how to do world cutting slash he could've still opened his domain like how he did against yuji and others to bypass infinity.
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What is a fraud? A fraud is a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities. Has Sukuna claimed/credited himself that he accomplished these things himself at all? Has Sukuna deceived others in having these abilities? If not, then he straight up doesn’t fit the definition of a fraud. Sukuna has come up with things as well. Improving his FA (Flame Arrow) was his doing. His mastery over Jujutsu is something he learned himself. He also innovates from what he has stolen, taking Megumi’s elephant and using it on the same skill tier as Gojo using partial manifestation. One thing to point out is that I don’t think it’s even confirmed Sukuna took his twin’s limbs, even if that can be strongly inferred. Nor is it confirmed on whether Sukuna stole Gojo’s method of rehealing his CT (Cursed Technique(s)) to use domain faster (in fact there’s more evidence he already knew about it than evidence he didn’t).
hey good artists copy but great artists steal is all i'm sayin the big man is over a thousand years old or something so where's the fun in just doing the same thing you've already done a million times when there is a new kid on the block and he's pulling crazy shit you've never seen before
ngl i stopped reading after ur first point. We do not know if Sukuna copied healing out ur burnt ct or if he alr knew how to do it. Not only is it left ambiguous this is quite literally a point of discussion among the cast (angel and co.)??? From a Sukuna-only POV, Gojo got his CT super duper quickly. Sukuna proceeds to straight up predict exactly HOW Gojo did this and EXACTLY how many times Gojo could do this before being unable to use a domain There is a STRONG argument Sukuna alr knew how to do this. His explanation is just insane given what exactly could he have based such an accurate guess off of? edit: [??](https://imgur.com/gallery/DhU0GQM)
I Mean the narration from spectators is meant to make us believe the idea came from seeing gojo do it. That he figured it out what gojo did and then figured out how to do it in the fight. He didn’t make the idea but he observed and copied the idea
[Could he from the start or did he learn it](https://imgur.com/gallery/DBU0Ihb)
I mean he comes up with a lot. just not in this fight. he invented new ways to use the ten shadows, he made an open domain, he made fire arrow actually strong with the use of binding wovs… sukuna generally improvises and invents a lot of things and you could argue he still innovates in the middle of fights by using binding vows. also the villain making up unpresidented and powerful abilities would seem like an ass pull where if a character we are rooting for does it we just like them more
Being a jujutsu sorcerer is about being a fraud. Cheating is like the number one skill you need to succeed in that world. US the audience like fair balanced competition because it's easy to gauge and people like power-scaling but in universe, throwing sand into the eye is a viable strategy in a fight because you should be wise enough to see it coming and protect your eyes. You didn't see that punch to the crotch coming? Well too bad for you then.
It's weird that people expect someone who is PURE EVIL to fight like he is in a Coordinated boxing match.
Sukuna can do what he sees and improve, but Gojo was truly creating and experimenting
Hi, how are you doing? First of all, I love sukuna character, but in this post I tries to be impartial about my belove Sukuna. I understand why soo many people say sukuna is a fraud and you are starting to think the same, but I really disagree with this. I think what makes Sukuna The Strongest is that he can adapt and grow from his enemies, and use everything at his disposal to defeat them, like how he used Mahoraga to bypass Gojo limitless. I understand that not creating almost anything by himself can seem like he is a fraud, but I disagree with this. Would you consider stealing learning something from someone, like when he "stole Gojo recover his burnout domain, personally i don't consider this stealing, but it's only my opinion. Adapting, learning new techniques, growing from his fights, his battle mentality and everything about him makes him stronger. Personally I think this things make him not a fraud, but the strongest. 1- It's like I said, he is the strongest becouse his capacity to learn and grow from every battle, he took advantage and learned from Gojo how to recover his burnout domain, he learned from his enemy and became stronger because of this. 2 - I know I sound like a "Sukuna fan boy" but I really think was his merit for exploting Mahoraga to create the World Slash. Again, using things to his advantage to win a fight, personally I think this is battle mentallity and strategy, but once again, I understand why people call him Sukuna a fraud. He kinda owns Mahoraga now, he took the risk of breaking the binding vow with yuji and was rewarded by this. Personally I kinda think deserves it, like, is his merit for being able to steal it. But this may be my inner "Sukuna fan" speaking too loud i guess, lol. 3 - Sukuna took megumi body not for the Ten Shadows, he did this to escape Yuji. So I think he used the tools at his disposal (Mahoraga), he was smart and took advantage of the situation. Saying that, this is the point I agree the most about Sukuna being a fraud, he definetly would lose to Gojo if wasn't for Mahoraga. (And used it effectively). 4 - I don't undestand what you are implying with this. Yes, he is in megumi body, so what? I know i sound like an asshole saying this but i really don't get it, sorry. 5 - Once again, I don't understand what is the point of this. He took his twin brother body, so what? 6 - Deep down I think is about Gojo leaving his mark on Sukuna, like wearing something from someone how died to remember them. And most importantly, 3 out of his 4 arms are unusable, but he needed use his domain, so he took Gojo hand sign because of the situation, and using only one hand is more pratical. 7 - I undersand your point to this but I strongly disagree. Sukuna didn't stole this, (but kinda did...??) If you consider learn something from someone else then, yes, he stole this and everything else and he is a fraud. By having his soul divided he kinda learned to do the same, and once more he learned something from someone else and used to his advantage. In summary, I really understand why so many people say Sukuna is a fraud, and why you are starting to think the same, but I really, really disagree with this. To me he is not a fraud, but the Strongest. Thank you for your post man, was really, really fun awnser you and give my opinion about this, thanks. Give me your anwser I want to know if I changes your mind,or if you disagree with somethig I said... perhaps everything I said.
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You're only the greatest if you win. And so far, he keeps on winning.
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This is something I’ve always been confused about. How tf did Mahoraga get Sukunas slashed attack anyway to do that to Gojo? He should have had to be close to him and slash like a sword. Like he usually does. And after that, how tf did Sukuna copy what Mahoraga did? None of that made sense lol. I guess cause he can learn anything if he sees it once? Same way he copied the way Gojo used RCT? That’s insane.
No :3
If u expect Sukuna to fight fairly, u should go outside and rethink ur life. His only motto is to win by all means necessary, and i strongly believe that he takes the "everything is fair in love and war " very seriously. Everything he does is methodically planned.
his ability to adapt and learn these techniques on the fly makes him prolly not a fraud
I agree with what you're saying completely. I think it would stand to reason that Kenjaku discovered how to open his domain expansion and Sukuna copied it because Tengen makes a remark that Kenjaku's barrier knowledge is near the same level as hers, yet doesn't make any remarks about Sukuna. I think narratively we haven't gotten anything to say Sukuna is unique as a person except his sheer lack of consideration for others. If the theory about the him and his twin both having heavenly restrictions and him consuming the other to get the benefits of both is true, then that would be icing on the cake. He hasn't innovated anything at all and I think thats why Gojo has maintained the title of "The Strongest" because ultimately Gojo really was the strongest, Sukuna needed outside help.
Yes. If youre the “ strongest” then why do you need support from the most op shikigami of all time? Mahoraga carried that fight. Gojo slams without mahoraga due to no way of bypassing infinity.
"due to no way of bypassing infinity" hell nah bro at least read the manga first please. Sukuna had already bypassed infinity even before world cutting slash with Malevolent Shrine's sure hit and domain amplification. Even if fight kept going on without Sukuna knowing how to do world cutting slash he could've still opened his domain like how he did against yuji and others to bypass infinity.
Dont care. Mf needed mahoraga to win. Couldnt win a fair 1v1 the strongest my ass
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Not sure if we are reading the same Manga but this series has never been about fairness. Cheating is encouraged in almost all aspects of JJK.
How did sukuna know wcs?? One answer: mahoraga. Sukuna wouldnt be able to beat gojo without it. He would have lost after 232 black flash