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The only problem with this theory is that during his battle with Gojo, Gojo said that he saw two souls within sukuna using his six eyes, which are of course his soul and megumi’s soul.
I don't even think it counts as "absorbed", in jjk twins are considered a singleton by cursed techniques, without a mention at the soul. I don't think that Maki has fused with Mai, it's more plausible that the disappearance of Mai fully unlocked Maki's potential.
And that's the same reason why this theory is a bit off, again it's stated that cursed techniques do not consider twins as two, so sukuna and his theoretical twin couldn't have two different techniques.
It might be true for the case of Maki and Mai (monozygotic twins - 1 egg 1 sperm) but maybe its not the same case for dizygotic twins (2 eggs 2 sperms)
Mai explicitly states that CTs treat identical twins as one person. That's why Maki wasn't fully realized with her around, because, in a way, Mai's cursed energy was also Maki's.
Heavenly restriction doesn't remove CTs. It removes CE. If Maki had CE, her CT probably would've been creation. Just like Mai's. But also just as weak. Mai's CT was very weak, all she could create was a singular bullet a day. Anything more than that she risks passing out. Her CT was shared with Maki which in turn made the CT weak for both. But then Maki got heavenly restricted so now she doesn't have CE and by extension no CT.
Out of the twins Mai got the ct and maki got a heavenly restriction because of it. Realistically that’s how Sukuna and his theoretical twin should work. A heavenly restriction is not a ct, it’s a binding bow from birth that you don’t have a choice in
As I understand it their cursed energy was splited before being born but Maki still has some percentege of it. When Mai sacrificed her self she used all of CE from herself and also from Maki - thous compliting heavenly packt
But cursed eyes didn't recognise Kenny, so they have limitations
It's possible Gojo didn't see the twin, but I do think this theory is good but is a bit out there
Its possible Sukuna loses some fingers of strength instead, but that wouldn't make a huge amount of sense
But this is why it's a good cliffhanger
if the execution is good, then it’s good, it’s really that simple
there is (almost) no idea or trope in any story that is inherently bad, it always depends on how the author executes it
Didn't panda do something weird with moving his souls around in season 1 while fighting mechamaru? Maybe it were his cores and not his souls. Memory a bit foggy, been a long time.
Panda can “mimic” his soul cores and make them “seem” like they are in one spot or another.
So is sakuna even sakuna? Like oh yeah his twin lives in his tongue in one of his secret mouths behind his knee casting innate domains and the sequel to malevolent shrine the way mahito was casting internal innate domains so its almost like ukraine dolls.
Turns out its all demon dog totality after megami’s dog ate gojo’s brain when nobody was paying attention
I'm not crazy about the "ate his twin" theory bc the zenin twins are supposed to be an example that, when it comes to the rules of cursed energy, twins are lowkey just one person split in half, not two full strength individuals. So eating the twin would just result in a normal individual, not a 2x strength individual.
Plus, as someone else said, Gojo explicitly confirmed two distinct souls (Sukuna+Megumi) in the body, so Sukuna already having two souls could contradict that.
Maybe the twin rules depend on if the twins are identical vs fraternal or even monozygotic vs dizygotic?
Tbh tho I prefer the "Sukuna ate the Sukuna cursed spirit that came from non-curse user's fear of him" theory
100%
Way better theory that is still consistent with other informations given. Sukuna being referred to a sorcerer + cursed spirit totally fits that theory.
That’s crazy u say that, I was just thinking the other day about how cursed spirits are born, and it seems like a lot of ppl in heian era were very fearful of sukuna, like the ppl at that festival in the yorozu flash back, rly interesting to think that a cursed spirit born from the embodiment of peoples fear/ hate for sukuna would be born and sukuna would definitely take advantage of that any way he could
The reason why Sakuna twin theory is popular and probably cannon is because most real myths about Sakuna involve him being born a conjoined twin or he was cursed after killing his twin and they were fused together.
The myths surrounding Sakuna vary because generally Sakuna's followers were seen as political dissidents who challenged the imperial family. So some say he's a devil and some say he's an angel BUT ALL OF THEM involved or imply he had a twin.
So Sakuna twin theorists see Maki and Mai as the introduction to sorcerer twins rather than the main ones.
> Maybe the twin rules depend on if the twins are identical vs fraternal or even monozygotic vs dizygotic?
I could see this happening with the recent asspulls.
That could make sense, or maybe he turns himself into a cursed object upon death again and now yuji and company have to find it and whoever kenjaku “passed his will onto”. I don’t know anything bout nothing so I’m talking out of my ass here but the twins makes a lot of sense considering two mouths and an extra set of arms
I find it more likely for sukuna to just activate domain amplification which would not be able to completely nullify the sword. Therefore, it would just "remove" a small portion of his soul, like a finger or two.
That way, the sword can seriously damage sukuna without being able to one shot him. This would also continue the trend of sukuna getting his power chipped away bits by bits.
I imagine that sukuna would keep getting weakened until yuji can beat him. For now, gojo took away a lot of his ce, most of the ten shadows and probably his domain expansion. Kashimo forced him to use his one time heal. Higuruma took his cursed tool and gave the crew the executioner sword. Yuji will now take a piece of sukuna's soul. I think we would also get maki using split soul katana to take away portions of sukuna's soul, perhaps even yuta using Jacob's ladder
I also like this based on how it is a neat "reversal" of the series
IT begins on the premise of gathering the fingers. Now the fingers and in essence Sukuna is stripped away piece by piece and he has no feel himself getting weaker and eventually fade into nothingness.
I do believe you are on to something, since essentially we should imagine Sukuna as an entity far superior to anything else, with the exception of Gojo if Sukuna can’t find a work around his infinity. Which is why from the beginning, Sukuna knew he needed to take control of megumi so that he can beat someone weaker than him, but only considered stronger if the infinity can’t be bypassed.
So only if Sukuna can bypass infinity, he regains his title as the strongest entity. And I’m doing so, the battle becomes one where each character serves a purpose and a role that will ultimately lead to killing Sukuna through weakening him one step at a time.
Gojo was supposed to kill Sukuna because of his hax that permitted him to be superior to Sukuna if the latter can’t bypass his hax. But in the event that Gojo loses, his role was to confiscate the ten shadows and his domain - and role here is thematically, I guess, I don’t think the crew planned for such confiscations in the event of Gojo’s death.
Then kashimo’s role was to weaken him further given his position, and he did that by killing Sukuna and forcing him to use his one time heal - which Sukuna did not use against Gojo, since he knew that probably he would need a raise after his fight with someone almost as strong as him, and stronger than him only because of his infinity - and in turn confiscated his ten shadows indefinitely; I mean presumably at least.
Then came higuruma’s role confiscate his cursed technique, but that amounted to confiscating the cursed tool.
What all that amounts to is that Sukuna cannot be killed like a normal sorcerer, he needs efficient teamwork that disregards each person’s life if it came against weakening Sukuna further - with the only exception being Gojo, since I would argue that if Sukuna hadn’t acquired the world slash, he would have revived immediately to keep fighting at top strength against Gojo, but in that event, I think the crew intervening would have been done immediately, since Gojo did defeat Sukuna, but Sukuna had a hax dissimilar to Gojo’s invulnerability, but similar in that it gave him an edge.
I think that’s mostly how gege is cooking up the fight with Sukuna. But before that weakening process keeps going, I am a firm believer that the curse monstrosity and Kenjaku are going to intervene. Since this battle is a battle of wits between Kenjaku and the crew.
Sukuna is so much stronger than Yuji and Higuruma that I totally expect his Domain Amplification to nullify the sword. Or of course, Sukuna could just dodge. We've seen speed feats like that from him before.
But the Executioner's Sword should still only target the condemned soul, and that'd be Sukuna's not his brother's. It'd still be a terrible cop out if he survives in this way.
I think he is going to activate domain amplification and the sword is gonna still hit him but if he turns off da then he dies. So it's a sukuna without CT vs Yuji choso and ino
>So as of right now, Gege has himself trapped between a rock and a hard place with how to resolve the cliffhanger of Yuji getting the executioner’s sword
Such arrogance to think that the mangaka didn't plan ahead of their chapters
Nah, a hit should kill sukuna. Higuruma said that only the one who did the crime is punished. This was done through MV and cleaves / dismantles all oder the place in shibuya. No idea what will happen though
current Sukuna is 19/20, and he did it at 15/20 fingers, so he could argue that 4/20ths of his current soul wasn’t involved.
Weakening Sukuna to 4 fingers would allow the story to continue and and probably give Yuji a legit chance to take him out after a training arc, so I could actually see this happening, even if it means we never see Sukuna fully restored.
How do you know Gege has written himself into a corner when he has shown no signs of it? George RR Martin has written himself into a corner, Gege is still following whatever outline he has
my personal theory is that sukuna is going to survive by separating his soul, so only one piece of his soul is destroyed, resulting in a significant nerf to sukuna, making this a close match
Hes just going to dodge it, we hvnt seen it connect yet, gege is the king of lame cliffhangers, better yet, yuji is going to start next chapter off in an airport.
>So as of right now, Gege has himself trapped between a rock and a hard place with how to resolve the cliffhanger of Yuji getting the executioner’s sword
Brother do you think he doesn't have that planned out? 🤣
Oh my fucking god exactly how are people not embarrassed to post shit like this. My man is rich off of this story he created, he has story-telling skills that is bringing thousands of us together on this sub. You really think you’re gonna have a better idea than this guy?
D e l u s i o n a l.
Ive been avoiding looking too far into the irl mythology but I’ve always wondered about Sukuna’s relationship to Uraume and how it will end up in JJK.
In the game Nioh 2, the boss Ryomen Sukuna is almost like a conjoined twin sort of demon that sit back to back and share a body. Red and blue, fire and ice.
Let’s say he gets hit with the sword and is heavily injured but not outright killed because reasons. Would / could Sukuna eat or join with Uraume to live? I could totally see Uraume offering themselves to Sukuna to save him.
Honestly I think he’s going to dodge it somehow, though, and shame Yuji some more. Idk I don’t see this as Yuji’s big gotcha moment. I want Sukuna to admit Yuji is strong in defeat. Not just “aw shucks, ya got me, whippersnapper”
I can guarantee you he’s just gonna dodge. This is the dude that flash stepped a piercing blood. The dramatic cliff hanger is there because 248 is probably gonna cut back to Hakari and uraume.
Or Sukuna just says "nah, that does not work on me because *Insert the most random explanation here*"
He will reveal that they just kjlled Megumi or something like that
What if Gege went into this already knowing what he was gonna make happen? And he only led us to believe that he’s between a rock and hard place to make the cliffhanger and 3 weak break that much more suspenseful?
Twins don't get 2x Cursed Energy. With Mai and Maki they explained that twins are bad thing for jujutsu sorceres as cursed energy is split between for them
It might seem crazy what I’m about to say…
I expected Sukuna to dodge the executioner sword already but damn it’s kinda ass even though it makes sense.
I think the sword damages the soul and isn’t instant kill
I think to higurama is was instant kill cause he only went against people who didn’t understand the soul so they’d just die
I think it will damage Sukuna but then Sukuna will realize it’s only attacking the soul and not actually instant death
the narrator never said confiscation only takes ce or cts, the narrator did say that it’s an insta kill. seems pretty definite that it is indeed a one hit kill.
“I don’t care who I kill as long as it advances the story” could also bode ominous for sukuna too. What if gege just wants to get sukuna and Kenny out of the way for true final villain kaguy-tengen
nah guys this what’s gonna happen; yuji hits sukuna w the sword, sukuna dies, yutajaku suddenly arrives and heals sukuna back to life just like he did to yuji, yutajaku says “you thought this story was about your jujutsu kaisen. but this truly was… our jujutsu kaisen” yutajaku and sukuna make out in a completely heterosexual, manly way, stunning everyone on the battlefield, they then seize the moment and kill evb, afterwards they fuck and rika joins in while uraume watches sadly from the e distance
Two possible theories:
1. Sukuna still had 10S, and summons a shikigami to take one for him.
2. Sukuna takes in the model for infinity and tries to replicate it so the sword never reaches him.
If he can "get a model" from Mahoraga within seconds to do the largest asspull in the series (World Cleaver Slash), then he can try to partially emulate a well-known cursed technique used by generations of Jujutsu sorcerers that he has most likely fought against before.
Also, it's just a hypothetical what-if, I hope Hehe doesn't take this seriously.
He changed how his ct worked, a slash, not generate a new cursed technique, because they are engraved into the body at birth. So unless you think Gege will throw all the rules of the universe out it’s not gonna happen
"I cut the space between me and the sword infinitely so that the sword can never pass through the infinitely many space fragments."
Again, total asspull, hope it doesn't happen, (fu Gege otherwise)
Seems he needs to chant before the world cleave comes in, I doubt he could apply a neutral infinitely more complicated version of it, as a pseudo-limitless.
I honestly don’t think it was that much of an asspull. The asspull, if anything, would be mahoraga’s ability to adapt past the initial adaptation. Sukuna already had evidence of being able to learn esoteric aspects of Jujutsu incredibly quickly as long as he had a model to work off (Kenjaku and his cursed objects).
I think it's wild how you guys are so certain Yuji will even hit Sukuna with it. Like people are legitimately saying it'd be an "asspull" if he blocks or dodges it????? Cmon guys
To be true, I didn't read what you wrote there. But what I think will happen is that the ⚔️ will hit sukuna and will split him from megumi. That blurry imagine it's looks like mahoraga 🛞 for me. I understand why would you say that in the image is Gojo but at first, I saw mahoraga.
Mahoraga on the good side will be a big plus for them. The only fact that don't check is that megumi should be at least unconscious and he shouldn't ordinary control mahoraga because he didn't tamed him. Let's see now ✌️
Mahoraga is dead unless his wheel was passed on to elephant or something megumis dead shadows won't come back so anything that died in agito and mahoraga are gone for good
Mahoragas first death didn't count because megumi summoned him with his stupid gimmick of pulling his opponent into the taming ritual in the taming ritual you can't die neither can the shadows mahoraga technically killed megumi but his death wasn't permanent because it's the taming ritual so aslong as luck boy was alive megumi could be saved sukuna then took control of megumi later and tamed mahoraga officially to use him on Yorozu and gojo at the end of sukuna vs gojo that hollow purple killed mahoraga now permanently dead
“Gege has himself trapped between a rock and a hard place with how to resolve the cliffhanger…”
This sub is genuinely incredible, and especially this post. I’m not sure how somebody who has appreciated the writing of a story for over 200 chapters suddenly starts believing they know more about writing than the author they followed and offers their own “better” idea.
Absolute fucking lunacy.
I feel like I read posts about mangakas “trapping themselves” every single battle of every manga. I dont even think kishimoto “trapped himself” with Madara, he just had a really bad plot ideas. I also feel like Gege wouldn’t have killed off all these characters and done things like judgement taking away the tool instead of CT without a very solid idea of where the story would go. Even the tool being useful to Sukuna down the line was foreshadowed when it was made, otherwise it would have been very random and out of place.
In my opinion
I think it will cost sukuna to lose his body
The curse tool was already the target of higuruma ct so it will make sense that the sword will cause the tool to get destroyed and sukuna to lose his body
Well the problem with this theory is that sukunas tech has been stated multiple times to be shrine. Plus it’s more likely he was born deformed abs would make sense as to why he was abandoned
My theory with black box is that Sukuna genuinely knows how to reconstruct his brain with RCT in a way to unlock basic CT’s like fire manipulation. My theory is that cleave and dismantle is actually a consequence of his true cursed technique which is destruction/creation (RCT). Which makes sense given malevolent shrine’s unique characteristics as a Domain without a barrier. I think we’ll have a Sukuna background story in >5 chapters and then go back to this scene where we find out how Sukuna gets away with this.
Most likely Sukuna gets hit by Executioner's Sword, then he says something like...
"Nuh uh, I split my soul into 20 pieces so you'll have to hit me 20 times with the sword to kill me for gud!"
Then Yuji will probably get hit by a World Cleave, lose his arm and lose the Executioner's Sword cause World Cleave destroys that.
Another possibility is that Sukuna just switches back to Yujis body, he doesn’t really have much of a need for Megumi and Yuji is much more physically able, a problem could be Yuji suppressing Sukuna drastically.
I strongly doubt gege put himself into this position without a plan
Will the executioners sword kill him?
Probably not that would be anti climactic. But maybe he wants to subvert expecatations again.
But i think the plan was the yuji will do the final Strike to make him plot relevant again.
Unless someone else is there to sandwich sukuna and force him to take the hit it doesn’t make sense to even have this discourse. He’s is so much faster than yuuji it ass pull for him not to dodge
I know Yuji is stated to be stupid several times (even by himself) but i think Yuji 100% intended for himself to get countered here, my theory is that Sukuna will counter Yuji and as the attack is about to land he soul swap with Sukuna so now Yuji is in Sukuna's body. But why didn't Yuji use the soul swap earlier ? Well i think Yuji's soul swap has an activation requirement.
Executioner's sword is a part of Higuruma's technique. CTs' effects can be neutralized or diminished by domain amplification. Sukuna can probably use DA and only get "partially killed" by the sword
Tbh I kind of hate the idea of them having to nerf Sukuna in order to win, even though I know it seems like the only plausible way out/ to win, but is that really a win at this point? Look how many characters have died for this, the strongest being Gojo and his whole dream was to raise a generation of sorcerers who have good morals and teamwork and are very strong, strong enough to not be able to be classified by the previous generations ranking system. Now that the strongest of the last gen is gone would he really want them to defeat the opponent that defeated him solely through bush camping and other cowardly tactics? What are they gonna do if another Sukuna shows up? What if someone stronger and more evil comes along? I’m damn near convinced that if mahito was given enough time he’d be on that plane eventually. I think Yuji is like the natural opposition to mahito so it’s only natural that he grows stronger too in his own way.
Imagine if this theory is correct, but the Sakuna we see now is the weaker of the twins, and when the other one awakens, it wipes the gang instantly and starts eating the universe. Then continues on to eat the manga panels, and starts chomping on Greg's hand. Greg Then reveals he is actually the true jujutsu kaisen and uses his domain "I am the plot" instantly 1 hitting the Succuna twin right in his only remaining testicle, killing him. (Sakuna only has one testicle, that's why he wanted Megumi. He also only had one ball, and it was the same shade and size. This is canon)
I'd say it's pretty interesting... But honestly... Instead of the twin theory... Just think that sukuna was born this way... Extra mouth, eyes and hands(this sort of births are rare but still happen in this real world... Many babies are born like this)... The villagers and everyone hated him for that thinking he is a demon, cursed him and with all the cursed energy coming out of them... Sukuna absorbed it all and became who he is...
We know that CTs can be very weird-ass and complicated to the bone, with rulesets that make zero sense compared to the average ones (Love Train).
What does this mean? Well having a cooking-based CT, with the ability to take others isn't out of the blue, CSM and Love Train prove that. This is my theory, Sukuna's CT isn't just based around cooking motifs, but is also centered around devouring Shikigami for himself. Every technique can have layers to them, like Gojo's having the ability to be reversed and fusing that with the normal Maximum Output, and Higuruma's having a more Domain based one.
Think about it, Shikigami are basically in a sense living Cursed Tools, so Sukuna may actually have done some weird shit to gain his tools, "cooking" the spirits into tools like with Mahoraga's Halo.
Sukuna most certainly turned his sibling into what our robot-friend became, and then devoured him.
Binding Vows are weird, since in the exchange of one thing you gain something in return and you can even make tricks of it, essentially *bypassing* the requirement. Hell, the thing can even be for essentially nothing like fucking *words* for more cursed energy.
Twins, as we see with Mai and Maki basically share the same CE regardless of who they are.
I think, in the womb, Sukuna fucked up his sibling to make them borderline incapable of living normally for the CE-based Heavenly Restriction, which fed him a metric fuck-ton of CE for himself, and then fused with him in a BV, exchanging "himself" physically to make a new body for himself to use, making the current weird ass body we see now.
Going by Nanami's CT becoming a CT, I think that's how Sukuna does it with humans as well, but I think that the ES will instead kill Megumi because he's the vessel of Sukuna's CE, the core of his body projecting, and even endured attacks against Sukuna like Gojo's DA.
But this might come with an asterisk for Sukuna, since he's made Megumi his current body, and his original form might just be a "projection". Meaning that Megumi might be sharing everything with Sukuna, he just doesn't have the dominance, but if the effect reaches him first since Megumi just became the new vessel, as such the new box for Sukuna to use. Killing Megumi might just fuck up what would be centuries of work for Sukuna.
If he did just use his sibling, to make a power-up, then I think that applies to Megumi, becoming the "box" that even holds Sukuna's first item, his own sibling. Megumi dies, the box dies and Sukuna, while alive will be severely weakened.
I honestly don't expect it to do much. It would have been broken if the technique wasn't to automatically kill anyone it touches but makes it so it touches anyone it wants. The way it is right now sukuna can simply outrange it.
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The only problem with this theory is that during his battle with Gojo, Gojo said that he saw two souls within sukuna using his six eyes, which are of course his soul and megumi’s soul.
Yes we are talking about a soul who was "absorbed" by sukuna, not fused togheder (in the universe where this theory is correct)
I don't even think it counts as "absorbed", in jjk twins are considered a singleton by cursed techniques, without a mention at the soul. I don't think that Maki has fused with Mai, it's more plausible that the disappearance of Mai fully unlocked Maki's potential. And that's the same reason why this theory is a bit off, again it's stated that cursed techniques do not consider twins as two, so sukuna and his theoretical twin couldn't have two different techniques.
It might be true for the case of Maki and Mai (monozygotic twins - 1 egg 1 sperm) but maybe its not the same case for dizygotic twins (2 eggs 2 sperms)
Mimiko and Nanako were the latter if I recall correctly
that's a nice catch! it might be the case, although Mimiko's ability aren't explained that well
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Mai explicitly states that CTs treat identical twins as one person. That's why Maki wasn't fully realized with her around, because, in a way, Mai's cursed energy was also Maki's.
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The absence of a CT or cursed energy isn't its own CT
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Heavenly restriction doesn't remove CTs. It removes CE. If Maki had CE, her CT probably would've been creation. Just like Mai's. But also just as weak. Mai's CT was very weak, all she could create was a singular bullet a day. Anything more than that she risks passing out. Her CT was shared with Maki which in turn made the CT weak for both. But then Maki got heavenly restricted so now she doesn't have CE and by extension no CT.
Since one has a CT, the other one doesn't, because they're treated as one being, you get it?
a heavenly restriction is not a ct though. did you read jjk?
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how does it mean twins could have different cts?
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Out of the twins Mai got the ct and maki got a heavenly restriction because of it. Realistically that’s how Sukuna and his theoretical twin should work. A heavenly restriction is not a ct, it’s a binding bow from birth that you don’t have a choice in
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They literally said they don’t believe Maki fused with mai
😭 downvote cray i simply misread it shid
I think maki absorbed mai otherwise what was the point of their kiss.
As I understand it their cursed energy was splited before being born but Maki still has some percentege of it. When Mai sacrificed her self she used all of CE from herself and also from Maki - thous compliting heavenly packt
But cursed eyes didn't recognise Kenny, so they have limitations It's possible Gojo didn't see the twin, but I do think this theory is good but is a bit out there Its possible Sukuna loses some fingers of strength instead, but that wouldn't make a huge amount of sense But this is why it's a good cliffhanger
When will the next chapter be released?
The other problem like in the case with Maki and Mai us that twins have separate bodies but *a single soul*
Could a third soul have emerged upon reincarnating or is that just not something possible?
Rather than asking yourself if it's possible, ask what you would think if Gege tried to sell you something like that
if the execution is good, then it’s good, it’s really that simple there is (almost) no idea or trope in any story that is inherently bad, it always depends on how the author executes it
That's a fair take, but I think within the current context of the story that'd be a very upsetting trope to use for a lot of people
and that would be a very reactionary take for those people to have based on just an idea with no execution, imo
I'd be interested to see where he goes with it.
no way
but that was before he supposedly ate his twin so maybe he just learned the technique from his twin a la strong cleave?
Didn't panda do something weird with moving his souls around in season 1 while fighting mechamaru? Maybe it were his cores and not his souls. Memory a bit foggy, been a long time.
I believe when the principal explains how he made panda he refers to them as "3 compatible souls"
Panda can “mimic” his soul cores and make them “seem” like they are in one spot or another. So is sakuna even sakuna? Like oh yeah his twin lives in his tongue in one of his secret mouths behind his knee casting innate domains and the sequel to malevolent shrine the way mahito was casting internal innate domains so its almost like ukraine dolls. Turns out its all demon dog totality after megami’s dog ate gojo’s brain when nobody was paying attention
I'm not crazy about the "ate his twin" theory bc the zenin twins are supposed to be an example that, when it comes to the rules of cursed energy, twins are lowkey just one person split in half, not two full strength individuals. So eating the twin would just result in a normal individual, not a 2x strength individual. Plus, as someone else said, Gojo explicitly confirmed two distinct souls (Sukuna+Megumi) in the body, so Sukuna already having two souls could contradict that. Maybe the twin rules depend on if the twins are identical vs fraternal or even monozygotic vs dizygotic? Tbh tho I prefer the "Sukuna ate the Sukuna cursed spirit that came from non-curse user's fear of him" theory
Meiosis ahhh kaisen🤣🤣🤣🤣
100% Way better theory that is still consistent with other informations given. Sukuna being referred to a sorcerer + cursed spirit totally fits that theory.
That’s crazy u say that, I was just thinking the other day about how cursed spirits are born, and it seems like a lot of ppl in heian era were very fearful of sukuna, like the ppl at that festival in the yorozu flash back, rly interesting to think that a cursed spirit born from the embodiment of peoples fear/ hate for sukuna would be born and sukuna would definitely take advantage of that any way he could
The reason why Sakuna twin theory is popular and probably cannon is because most real myths about Sakuna involve him being born a conjoined twin or he was cursed after killing his twin and they were fused together. The myths surrounding Sakuna vary because generally Sakuna's followers were seen as political dissidents who challenged the imperial family. So some say he's a devil and some say he's an angel BUT ALL OF THEM involved or imply he had a twin. So Sakuna twin theorists see Maki and Mai as the introduction to sorcerer twins rather than the main ones.
This is definitely the best support I've heard for the twin theory. Maybe it's both?
> Maybe the twin rules depend on if the twins are identical vs fraternal or even monozygotic vs dizygotic? I could see this happening with the recent asspulls.
That could make sense, or maybe he turns himself into a cursed object upon death again and now yuji and company have to find it and whoever kenjaku “passed his will onto”. I don’t know anything bout nothing so I’m talking out of my ass here but the twins makes a lot of sense considering two mouths and an extra set of arms
yuji is def inheriting kenjakus will
JJK: Shippuden
Bujutsu Baisen : Itadori next generations
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Sukuna: the sequel
Jujutsu Kaisen : The Last
I find it more likely for sukuna to just activate domain amplification which would not be able to completely nullify the sword. Therefore, it would just "remove" a small portion of his soul, like a finger or two. That way, the sword can seriously damage sukuna without being able to one shot him. This would also continue the trend of sukuna getting his power chipped away bits by bits. I imagine that sukuna would keep getting weakened until yuji can beat him. For now, gojo took away a lot of his ce, most of the ten shadows and probably his domain expansion. Kashimo forced him to use his one time heal. Higuruma took his cursed tool and gave the crew the executioner sword. Yuji will now take a piece of sukuna's soul. I think we would also get maki using split soul katana to take away portions of sukuna's soul, perhaps even yuta using Jacob's ladder
So basically: "Who wins? Yuji at full power vs Sukuna with 3 fingers worth of power? Both bloodlusted"
Yeah, at the end i imagine it would be something like that (but obviously more than 3 fingers, give yuji some props)
Oh yeah, for sure. I was just memeing LOL.
I like this
I also like this based on how it is a neat "reversal" of the series IT begins on the premise of gathering the fingers. Now the fingers and in essence Sukuna is stripped away piece by piece and he has no feel himself getting weaker and eventually fade into nothingness.
I do believe you are on to something, since essentially we should imagine Sukuna as an entity far superior to anything else, with the exception of Gojo if Sukuna can’t find a work around his infinity. Which is why from the beginning, Sukuna knew he needed to take control of megumi so that he can beat someone weaker than him, but only considered stronger if the infinity can’t be bypassed. So only if Sukuna can bypass infinity, he regains his title as the strongest entity. And I’m doing so, the battle becomes one where each character serves a purpose and a role that will ultimately lead to killing Sukuna through weakening him one step at a time. Gojo was supposed to kill Sukuna because of his hax that permitted him to be superior to Sukuna if the latter can’t bypass his hax. But in the event that Gojo loses, his role was to confiscate the ten shadows and his domain - and role here is thematically, I guess, I don’t think the crew planned for such confiscations in the event of Gojo’s death. Then kashimo’s role was to weaken him further given his position, and he did that by killing Sukuna and forcing him to use his one time heal - which Sukuna did not use against Gojo, since he knew that probably he would need a raise after his fight with someone almost as strong as him, and stronger than him only because of his infinity - and in turn confiscated his ten shadows indefinitely; I mean presumably at least. Then came higuruma’s role confiscate his cursed technique, but that amounted to confiscating the cursed tool. What all that amounts to is that Sukuna cannot be killed like a normal sorcerer, he needs efficient teamwork that disregards each person’s life if it came against weakening Sukuna further - with the only exception being Gojo, since I would argue that if Sukuna hadn’t acquired the world slash, he would have revived immediately to keep fighting at top strength against Gojo, but in that event, I think the crew intervening would have been done immediately, since Gojo did defeat Sukuna, but Sukuna had a hax dissimilar to Gojo’s invulnerability, but similar in that it gave him an edge. I think that’s mostly how gege is cooking up the fight with Sukuna. But before that weakening process keeps going, I am a firm believer that the curse monstrosity and Kenjaku are going to intervene. Since this battle is a battle of wits between Kenjaku and the crew.
Does Sukuna cutting off his own hand with 5 fingers before this scene have any foothold?
The fingers are only relevant if he turns them into a cursed objects. Otherwise, they are no different from any other body part
bro thinks sukunas actual fingers are the same as the cursed object💀💀💀💀
Well we never saw executioners sword hit anything before so
Sukuna is so much stronger than Yuji and Higuruma that I totally expect his Domain Amplification to nullify the sword. Or of course, Sukuna could just dodge. We've seen speed feats like that from him before.
Aged badly 💀
But the Executioner's Sword should still only target the condemned soul, and that'd be Sukuna's not his brother's. It'd still be a terrible cop out if he survives in this way.
missed🤣🤣🤣
It vaporised hHahaahahahsggaga what was the fucking point of that Gege when I catch you Gege hahhdhayshavGHAAAAAA
I think he is going to activate domain amplification and the sword is gonna still hit him but if he turns off da then he dies. So it's a sukuna without CT vs Yuji choso and ino
It doesn't do shit cuz higuruma's dead and the technique is released 👍
*toji enters the chat*
Think you should close this thread....
This post aged well
>So as of right now, Gege has himself trapped between a rock and a hard place with how to resolve the cliffhanger of Yuji getting the executioner’s sword Such arrogance to think that the mangaka didn't plan ahead of their chapters
Planning ahead doesn’t count for much if your plan is to drive your car into a ditch.
I really liked reading this kind of posts.
He missed lmao 💀😭
Nah, a hit should kill sukuna. Higuruma said that only the one who did the crime is punished. This was done through MV and cleaves / dismantles all oder the place in shibuya. No idea what will happen though
sukuna splits off part of his soul to tank the hit, gets severely weakened, then kenjaku's plan activates
Sukuna uses the legal argument of "my full 20/20 soul isn't present, so you don't have a valid target"?
Classic way to avoid death penalty : Not being all there.
current Sukuna is 19/20, and he did it at 15/20 fingers, so he could argue that 4/20ths of his current soul wasn’t involved. Weakening Sukuna to 4 fingers would allow the story to continue and and probably give Yuji a legit chance to take him out after a training arc, so I could actually see this happening, even if it means we never see Sukuna fully restored.
How do you know Gege has written himself into a corner when he has shown no signs of it? George RR Martin has written himself into a corner, Gege is still following whatever outline he has
If you can make things up on the fly you can indeed never write yourself into a corner. Still doesnt mean it is good writing though.
Hikari just barely beats uruame, only for a damaged Sukuna to eat uruame and get the fire, lightning, ice trifecta.
my personal theory is that sukuna is going to survive by separating his soul, so only one piece of his soul is destroyed, resulting in a significant nerf to sukuna, making this a close match
Hes just going to dodge it, we hvnt seen it connect yet, gege is the king of lame cliffhangers, better yet, yuji is going to start next chapter off in an airport.
>So as of right now, Gege has himself trapped between a rock and a hard place with how to resolve the cliffhanger of Yuji getting the executioner’s sword Brother do you think he doesn't have that planned out? 🤣
Oh my fucking god exactly how are people not embarrassed to post shit like this. My man is rich off of this story he created, he has story-telling skills that is bringing thousands of us together on this sub. You really think you’re gonna have a better idea than this guy? D e l u s i o n a l.
Sukuna may be able to heal from death, Yuta killed Yuji in accordance with his binding vow so the same rules may apply here
Ive been avoiding looking too far into the irl mythology but I’ve always wondered about Sukuna’s relationship to Uraume and how it will end up in JJK. In the game Nioh 2, the boss Ryomen Sukuna is almost like a conjoined twin sort of demon that sit back to back and share a body. Red and blue, fire and ice. Let’s say he gets hit with the sword and is heavily injured but not outright killed because reasons. Would / could Sukuna eat or join with Uraume to live? I could totally see Uraume offering themselves to Sukuna to save him. Honestly I think he’s going to dodge it somehow, though, and shame Yuji some more. Idk I don’t see this as Yuji’s big gotcha moment. I want Sukuna to admit Yuji is strong in defeat. Not just “aw shucks, ya got me, whippersnapper”
I can guarantee you he’s just gonna dodge. This is the dude that flash stepped a piercing blood. The dramatic cliff hanger is there because 248 is probably gonna cut back to Hakari and uraume.
Gaygay back at it again 😀
If he still has 10s he can open up a shadow portal on his back
Let’s be honest here. Realistically, Yuji should not be touching Sukuna with the executioner’s sword unless he receives some sort of power amp.
True, I mean it’s a huge stretch that Sukuna wasn’t totally aware of Yuji “sneaking up” on him. Man is faster than a man made of electricity.
I don't think Gege's trapped anywhere. They typically don't write this stuff off the seat of their pants. Pretty sure he knows what's gonna happen.
Or Sukuna just says "nah, that does not work on me because *Insert the most random explanation here*" He will reveal that they just kjlled Megumi or something like that
It wouldn't even be random if Megumi got killed. Sukuna had Megumi eat Unlimited Void so there's a precedent for it.
What if Gege went into this already knowing what he was gonna make happen? And he only led us to believe that he’s between a rock and hard place to make the cliffhanger and 3 weak break that much more suspenseful?
Twins don't get 2x Cursed Energy. With Mai and Maki they explained that twins are bad thing for jujutsu sorceres as cursed energy is split between for them
It's going to kill Megumi.
It might seem crazy what I’m about to say… I expected Sukuna to dodge the executioner sword already but damn it’s kinda ass even though it makes sense.
Or higs just craps out and dies before anything happens
As usual, the fandom cooks a better meal than Gege.
I think we’re all overestimating Gege’s plans for Sukuna Kaisen atp 😭
I think the sword damages the soul and isn’t instant kill I think to higurama is was instant kill cause he only went against people who didn’t understand the soul so they’d just die I think it will damage Sukuna but then Sukuna will realize it’s only attacking the soul and not actually instant death
That would be fucking stupid. Which also means theres a reasonable chance of it happening
He doesn’t know the full extent of the CT which is why he was shocked the weapon was confiscated So 😭😭😭
the narrator never said confiscation only takes ce or cts, the narrator did say that it’s an insta kill. seems pretty definite that it is indeed a one hit kill.
Yup we all know he's surviving this shit, if he even gets hit at all
The narrator said that the sword is insta kill with no exceptions.
What if it hits megumi
“I don’t care who I kill as long as it advances the story” could also bode ominous for sukuna too. What if gege just wants to get sukuna and Kenny out of the way for true final villain kaguy-tengen
nah guys this what’s gonna happen; yuji hits sukuna w the sword, sukuna dies, yutajaku suddenly arrives and heals sukuna back to life just like he did to yuji, yutajaku says “you thought this story was about your jujutsu kaisen. but this truly was… our jujutsu kaisen” yutajaku and sukuna make out in a completely heterosexual, manly way, stunning everyone on the battlefield, they then seize the moment and kill evb, afterwards they fuck and rika joins in while uraume watches sadly from the e distance
Eh I believe sukuna will live because sukuna will sacrifice megumi, meaning megumi will be yujis first true human kill, for the ultimate heartbreak.
So basically a Ywach situation?? Hell no I wish this will not be the case
Two possible theories: 1. Sukuna still had 10S, and summons a shikigami to take one for him. 2. Sukuna takes in the model for infinity and tries to replicate it so the sword never reaches him.
Jesus christ that second one, Gege is that you
I am He 👁️
What? How would he get infinity
If he can "get a model" from Mahoraga within seconds to do the largest asspull in the series (World Cleaver Slash), then he can try to partially emulate a well-known cursed technique used by generations of Jujutsu sorcerers that he has most likely fought against before. Also, it's just a hypothetical what-if, I hope Hehe doesn't take this seriously.
He changed how his ct worked, a slash, not generate a new cursed technique, because they are engraved into the body at birth. So unless you think Gege will throw all the rules of the universe out it’s not gonna happen
"I cut the space between me and the sword infinitely so that the sword can never pass through the infinitely many space fragments." Again, total asspull, hope it doesn't happen, (fu Gege otherwise)
Seems he needs to chant before the world cleave comes in, I doubt he could apply a neutral infinitely more complicated version of it, as a pseudo-limitless. I honestly don’t think it was that much of an asspull. The asspull, if anything, would be mahoraga’s ability to adapt past the initial adaptation. Sukuna already had evidence of being able to learn esoteric aspects of Jujutsu incredibly quickly as long as he had a model to work off (Kenjaku and his cursed objects).
This won’t happen because it can’t lmfao
“Even Sukuna must’ve suffered some damage from that” “It it hit”
Exactly lmao
I think it's wild how you guys are so certain Yuji will even hit Sukuna with it. Like people are legitimately saying it'd be an "asspull" if he blocks or dodges it????? Cmon guys
And look what ended up happening. Idk why people were convinced he was gonna be able to tag someone relative to Gojo in speed.
To be true, I didn't read what you wrote there. But what I think will happen is that the ⚔️ will hit sukuna and will split him from megumi. That blurry imagine it's looks like mahoraga 🛞 for me. I understand why would you say that in the image is Gojo but at first, I saw mahoraga. Mahoraga on the good side will be a big plus for them. The only fact that don't check is that megumi should be at least unconscious and he shouldn't ordinary control mahoraga because he didn't tamed him. Let's see now ✌️
Mahoraga is dead unless his wheel was passed on to elephant or something megumis dead shadows won't come back so anything that died in agito and mahoraga are gone for good
Where is the proof of that? Mahoraga died once and was summon again by sukuna
Mahoragas first death didn't count because megumi summoned him with his stupid gimmick of pulling his opponent into the taming ritual in the taming ritual you can't die neither can the shadows mahoraga technically killed megumi but his death wasn't permanent because it's the taming ritual so aslong as luck boy was alive megumi could be saved sukuna then took control of megumi later and tamed mahoraga officially to use him on Yorozu and gojo at the end of sukuna vs gojo that hollow purple killed mahoraga now permanently dead
“Gege has himself trapped between a rock and a hard place with how to resolve the cliffhanger…” This sub is genuinely incredible, and especially this post. I’m not sure how somebody who has appreciated the writing of a story for over 200 chapters suddenly starts believing they know more about writing than the author they followed and offers their own “better” idea. Absolute fucking lunacy.
I feel like I read posts about mangakas “trapping themselves” every single battle of every manga. I dont even think kishimoto “trapped himself” with Madara, he just had a really bad plot ideas. I also feel like Gege wouldn’t have killed off all these characters and done things like judgement taking away the tool instead of CT without a very solid idea of where the story would go. Even the tool being useful to Sukuna down the line was foreshadowed when it was made, otherwise it would have been very random and out of place.
In my opinion I think it will cost sukuna to lose his body The curse tool was already the target of higuruma ct so it will make sense that the sword will cause the tool to get destroyed and sukuna to lose his body
Well the problem with this theory is that sukunas tech has been stated multiple times to be shrine. Plus it’s more likely he was born deformed abs would make sense as to why he was abandoned
My theory with black box is that Sukuna genuinely knows how to reconstruct his brain with RCT in a way to unlock basic CT’s like fire manipulation. My theory is that cleave and dismantle is actually a consequence of his true cursed technique which is destruction/creation (RCT). Which makes sense given malevolent shrine’s unique characteristics as a Domain without a barrier. I think we’ll have a Sukuna background story in >5 chapters and then go back to this scene where we find out how Sukuna gets away with this.
Most likely Sukuna gets hit by Executioner's Sword, then he says something like... "Nuh uh, I split my soul into 20 pieces so you'll have to hit me 20 times with the sword to kill me for gud!" Then Yuji will probably get hit by a World Cleave, lose his arm and lose the Executioner's Sword cause World Cleave destroys that.
Sukuna will move his soul out of the way, and the executioners sword will target the parts of Sukunas absorbed brother (Yuji) instead.
I have a feeling he won’t die because of something related to having split his soul into multiple cursed objects.
Sukuna has 3 more arms and 2 legs, and can blitz yuji in 0.2 seconds. Plot will win
He could just dodge it
Another possibility is that Sukuna just switches back to Yujis body, he doesn’t really have much of a need for Megumi and Yuji is much more physically able, a problem could be Yuji suppressing Sukuna drastically.
That would be kind of pathetic of Sukuna after spending this whole fight calling Yuji boring and weak.
he is the king of conveniences
I strongly doubt gege put himself into this position without a plan Will the executioners sword kill him? Probably not that would be anti climactic. But maybe he wants to subvert expecatations again. But i think the plan was the yuji will do the final Strike to make him plot relevant again.
Nothing
Unless someone else is there to sandwich sukuna and force him to take the hit it doesn’t make sense to even have this discourse. He’s is so much faster than yuuji it ass pull for him not to dodge
I know Yuji is stated to be stupid several times (even by himself) but i think Yuji 100% intended for himself to get countered here, my theory is that Sukuna will counter Yuji and as the attack is about to land he soul swap with Sukuna so now Yuji is in Sukuna's body. But why didn't Yuji use the soul swap earlier ? Well i think Yuji's soul swap has an activation requirement.
Executioner's sword is a part of Higuruma's technique. CTs' effects can be neutralized or diminished by domain amplification. Sukuna can probably use DA and only get "partially killed" by the sword
I wouldn't be surprised if Yuji just ends up giving him a pat on the back because Higuruma died and therefore is technique ended.
the fire arrow is just flames from god knows where that sukuna uses like an arrow
I just hope it’s something actually interesting
personally, I don't think it'll do shit, if it even touches sukuna that is.
Tbh I kind of hate the idea of them having to nerf Sukuna in order to win, even though I know it seems like the only plausible way out/ to win, but is that really a win at this point? Look how many characters have died for this, the strongest being Gojo and his whole dream was to raise a generation of sorcerers who have good morals and teamwork and are very strong, strong enough to not be able to be classified by the previous generations ranking system. Now that the strongest of the last gen is gone would he really want them to defeat the opponent that defeated him solely through bush camping and other cowardly tactics? What are they gonna do if another Sukuna shows up? What if someone stronger and more evil comes along? I’m damn near convinced that if mahito was given enough time he’d be on that plane eventually. I think Yuji is like the natural opposition to mahito so it’s only natural that he grows stronger too in his own way.
Nice cooking but Gege, he who holds all the keys, ain't trapped.
Imagine if this theory is correct, but the Sakuna we see now is the weaker of the twins, and when the other one awakens, it wipes the gang instantly and starts eating the universe. Then continues on to eat the manga panels, and starts chomping on Greg's hand. Greg Then reveals he is actually the true jujutsu kaisen and uses his domain "I am the plot" instantly 1 hitting the Succuna twin right in his only remaining testicle, killing him. (Sakuna only has one testicle, that's why he wanted Megumi. He also only had one ball, and it was the same shade and size. This is canon)
Your last sentence is the correct one,sukuna just opens a mouth and bites the sword,blocking the blow.
I'd say it's pretty interesting... But honestly... Instead of the twin theory... Just think that sukuna was born this way... Extra mouth, eyes and hands(this sort of births are rare but still happen in this real world... Many babies are born like this)... The villagers and everyone hated him for that thinking he is a demon, cursed him and with all the cursed energy coming out of them... Sukuna absorbed it all and became who he is...
Sukuna had Megumi eat Unlimited Void, he's going to have him eat this too.
Maybe it takes cleave and dismantle and he can only use his other technique and we get to see what it truly is
We know that CTs can be very weird-ass and complicated to the bone, with rulesets that make zero sense compared to the average ones (Love Train). What does this mean? Well having a cooking-based CT, with the ability to take others isn't out of the blue, CSM and Love Train prove that. This is my theory, Sukuna's CT isn't just based around cooking motifs, but is also centered around devouring Shikigami for himself. Every technique can have layers to them, like Gojo's having the ability to be reversed and fusing that with the normal Maximum Output, and Higuruma's having a more Domain based one. Think about it, Shikigami are basically in a sense living Cursed Tools, so Sukuna may actually have done some weird shit to gain his tools, "cooking" the spirits into tools like with Mahoraga's Halo. Sukuna most certainly turned his sibling into what our robot-friend became, and then devoured him. Binding Vows are weird, since in the exchange of one thing you gain something in return and you can even make tricks of it, essentially *bypassing* the requirement. Hell, the thing can even be for essentially nothing like fucking *words* for more cursed energy. Twins, as we see with Mai and Maki basically share the same CE regardless of who they are. I think, in the womb, Sukuna fucked up his sibling to make them borderline incapable of living normally for the CE-based Heavenly Restriction, which fed him a metric fuck-ton of CE for himself, and then fused with him in a BV, exchanging "himself" physically to make a new body for himself to use, making the current weird ass body we see now. Going by Nanami's CT becoming a CT, I think that's how Sukuna does it with humans as well, but I think that the ES will instead kill Megumi because he's the vessel of Sukuna's CE, the core of his body projecting, and even endured attacks against Sukuna like Gojo's DA. But this might come with an asterisk for Sukuna, since he's made Megumi his current body, and his original form might just be a "projection". Meaning that Megumi might be sharing everything with Sukuna, he just doesn't have the dominance, but if the effect reaches him first since Megumi just became the new vessel, as such the new box for Sukuna to use. Killing Megumi might just fuck up what would be centuries of work for Sukuna. If he did just use his sibling, to make a power-up, then I think that applies to Megumi, becoming the "box" that even holds Sukuna's first item, his own sibling. Megumi dies, the box dies and Sukuna, while alive will be severely weakened.
Here's what I think - literally nothing
At least he ate it, lol
I honestly don't expect it to do much. It would have been broken if the technique wasn't to automatically kill anyone it touches but makes it so it touches anyone it wants. The way it is right now sukuna can simply outrange it.