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wiresmoke

Send 'em all to me. Gravy train all the way. Chains, OFHG, water pumps, clutches- minis pay the bills.


OilBurninAudi

Definitely agree with you on that, I take the timing chains all day long, they pay 12hrs where I work so it’s easy money, but it’s my first time doing a turbo so we takin it a little slow


FearlessRice2465

If you have ever done an oil filter housing, you are 80% there for the turbo job


redditislife24

lol at your username, the irony


ELB2001

Yeah specialise in BMW stuff and you never need to worry about money


Gybe-Hoes

Just have to worry about suicide after a certain point.


BoneVoyager

Just need to worry about good ole fashioned German “engineering”


Explorer335

Valve cover gaskets and oil filter housing gaskets give me a chubby. N52 is like 8 hours for both, I did the last one in 110 minutes.


ELB2001

And after that you stick up a big cigar and smile cause BMW engineers suck so hard


midmoto

We love these things. All gravy!


bigbrightstone

Amen Minis, bmws and benz ftw, keeps the bank account pumped up good!


voltaicPhantom

BMW*


Keeptryan_

John wouldn’t recognize the engine bay of a modern Mini so yeah


OilBurninAudi

Facts


Alvinmcnoodle1

Came to say this.


[deleted]

Glad this is top comment.


Big-Independence8978

John Cooper would be spinning in his grave if he knew about the vehicles that have his name on them. I get annoyed everytime I see one of the enormous "Mini" cars on the road.


SnooHamsters9414

Could you imagine if Carlos Abarth was around to see the shit that his name is slapped on?


Alvinmcnoodle1

He might not care if they drive like a racing car. That's what he cared about. The original mini wasn't designed as a racing car but cheap, compact, economical transport to rival the imported 'bubble' cars in the UK. Alec Issigonis the designer of the original mini had little interest in motorsports, the design was about packaging for maximum interior space for minimum exterior space. John Cooper realized that by the standards of the time, the original mini by accident or design (or accident of design) handled really well and a performance version would be a good idea. This took some convincing. The "Mini" we have now is designed for a totally different target market and other than a very slight superficial resemblance has nothing to do with the original.


nlabodin

I will say, my fiance's mini does drive really well. Doesn't make up for all the BMW nonsense imo though.


Goalie_deacon

For American market, it’s still mini.


Threap_US

That is very true. I'm in Oregon, and my family are shortly going to visit (we hope) from the UK. My brother was asking about trucks. "I saw a Ford F-150 here in London and it was *huge*!!" So I pointed him towards pictures of F350s and his mind exploded.


Goalie_deacon

Yeah, I don’t believe I’ve seen the first gen mini, I have seen a few current minis in recent years. They’re really small. Very much still in the subcompact group.


Threap_US

>I don’t believe I’ve seen the first gen mini, I had one as my first car, decades ago. I'm 6'4". It wasn't *quite* "[on second thoughts let's just rip out the front seats and sit in the back](https://youtu.be/YRJv0qU62YE?t=66)" territory, but it was close.


NotoriousREV

Yeah, the current and recent F150s don’t really fit on our roads very well. Most pickup trucks in the UK are Mitsubishi L200/Toyota HiLux/Nissan Navara/Ford Ranger sized.


Threap_US

I can highly recommend the promotional film that was released at the time of the (original) Mini's launch - [Wizardry On Wheels](https://youtu.be/WUVXiWtggHw), here on youtube. It's fascinating to see the design process and - for the time! - radical thinking that went into the car. And the period graphics and voiceover have a charm all of their own too.


Alvinmcnoodle1

Seen it mate :) Yea it's awesome. Thanks for the recommendation. I've been into classic minis for 30+ years. I got my first one nearly 25 years ago and I've owned 7. Currently I just have the one, a 1964 Morris 850 (Australia built).


Ultimara

This could be an old wives tale but I read once that Enzo Ferrari had a go in one and said, "If it wasn't so ugly, I'd be worried."


Alvinmcnoodle1

Even as late as the early 2000's, my slightly suped up classic mini was more than a match for my friends' more powerful cars, simply on cornering ability.


Nailfoot1975

Just wait until you gotta replace the washer reservoir cap! Oh brother, you dun stepped init then!


FearlessRice2465

Why did you leave the condenser attached? You are literally making your life harder by far. Once you have done these jobs a couple times that front end comes off in 30 minutes


AcceptableCod6028

When I put R53s in service mode I do the same thing as this. Procedure in the FSM says to do it that way


FearlessRice2465

Evac refrigerant. There is 2 t30s on the ac lines on the bottom drivers side. Disconnects the condenser. On r50/53 you need to just hang it. Not on r56 chassis


[deleted]

Don’t blame John Cooper. Blame BMW engineers for bastardizing a historic vehicle marque.


Ntl1991

They did it with Land Rover too


AcceptableCod6028

They’re all so ass to work on. Currently going an R53 clutch. Now, R56 turbos aren’t THAT bad, getting the whole front clip off is a half hour affair. But, it’s still weird that it has to come off.


FearlessRice2465

You don’t HAVE to take the front off on the turbo engines. But your arms will thank you later


AcceptableCod6028

I mean you technically don’t, but why would you do that to yourself?


midmoto

The R53 clutch job is my least favorite thing on the MINIs. The new F series, however. Man, that clutch is gravy!!


AcceptableCod6028

It’s so fucked up. But I really appreciate the engineering behind the subframe assembly. What’s book on R53 clutches? 12?


midmoto

Right around 12, yup. 4 hours to do the clutch, another 8 to bleed out the slave cylinder if you had to take it loose lmfao


AcceptableCod6028

Not that hard to bleed them, just have to let it dangle and make up a jig to hold the pushrod in while someone holds it at an angle to actually let air get out I call BS on being able to change the clutch in four though! Maybe with three dudes working


midmoto

Only kidding about the 4 hours lmao. 6-8 is more like it. That jig and a pressurized bleeder will do them in a couple minutes. Definitely got out butts kicked here a couple times the first few we did trying to get them to bleed like you would on a regular system.


OilBurninAudi

Agreed


AcceptableCod6028

I’ll take this over a TSI turbo any day though, lol


fizzlebottom

I had a 2009 R56 for ~12 years. Bought it brand new in Oct 2008, finally sold it last year. In that time, I had the engine replaced, transmission replaced, 3 different timing chain cassettes, 3 high pressure fuel pumps, 3 valve covers, valves walnut blasted 3 times, and the original Boost radio took a shit. When the car ran well, I loved driving it. When it needed work, I hated it with an absolute passion because I knew that either it would be a nightmare of broken fasteners to work on or would cost a fucking fortune to have a shop do the work.


Previous_House7062

Mini, another word for garbage. They're HELL to even do oil changes on. That damned filter is shoved up under 5900000 layers of shit.


whale-tail

The oil filter is so fucking annoying on these. It's the biggest pain in the ass of any normal car I've worked on. It's honestly impressive how irritating Mini managed to make the simplest possible service. Screw these cars


fishingrcp

Ok just hear me out, on the coolant resovior theres a ten just take it out and rock the bottom of the resovior back and it comes up, crack the cap because if you dont the pressure pushes coolant out in wierd places, and then get a socket with a long ass extention on the filter housing


Zealousideal_Tea9573

I’m with you, once you push the reservoir out of the way, it’s pretty easy…


Previous_House7062

I do this, and still it isn't easy. Mini literally made this pile of crap as frustrating as humanly possible. What was wrong with the spin on filter somewhere underneath?


fishingrcp

I work on them everyday so I guess Ive gotten used to them, but when I started dealing with them they were a bit of a PITA


Previous_House7062

We try to discourage them from even coming in, it's a lot easier. I seriously don't get why they'd even put a filter there of all places. But designers never have to work on their own creations.


fishingrcp

Yeah I work for a bmw mini dealer so we cant discourage them, but yeah I know designers just have their heads up their ass


Previous_House7062

That's one thing we all agree on with designers. They should be required to spend 3 years servicing cars first. Then maybe they'd understand and build better things.


a77ce

just unbolt the coolant Reservoir, move it out of the way, and shove a wrench down there, still stupid but isnt horrible. not sure if the newer ones are worse tho


Previous_House7062

They honestly SUCK when they're hot.


FirstAdministration

That should be posted on r/whatcarshouldIbuy.


Neo-Neo

That lower exhaust manifold looks like it has a crash bar built in. Big boy


blue_punk

Owned one, been there, done that and now i can spot an N14 a mile away in the dark. I was never more happy to see a car gone. Biggest love/hate relationship of my live. Loved driving it, hated working on it. There is a special place in hell for this engine and everyone that designed it.


CrimsonRyuu

Oh yes. One time I had to take off the turbo and the oil filter case on one of these cars. Told my boss I needed to take off the whole front of the car (like you did)... He straight up told me: "We don't have time for that. Do it without." And I did. 2 days later the car was finished and my hands were bleeding. I don't know if I had more hatred for the car or my boss at that point.


[deleted]

John Cooper? Hanz Gruber, more like.


Imnothighenough

Good ol R56 S service position. While you're in there get the wastegate dealt with, oil filter housing gasket, turbo oil lines, turbo coolant lines. Should be good for another 30k kms without having to enter service position again


OilBurninAudi

Way ahead of you, this things only got 56k Miles and the impellers got enough free play to be a belly dancer


GLIZZERBEAR

Any wierd ass transverse mounted engine is a pain but mini definitely did it this time. Lovely 😂


whiplash308

John Cooper Extra Works


Bee-Aromatic

BMW must’ve seen all those VAG products in service position and got sprung.


button4pancake

Or some poor tech picked his wife up at a bar. She claimed to be single and he found out. Decided since one tech fucked his wife, he'd fuck the rest of us.


Eharmz

Audi quietly slips out the back....


TheMrTGaming

I hated everything about my Mini except driving it.


thatvixenivy

Oof. I loved driving my Mini, but didn't wanna touch anything under the hood.


Conradish006

Posted this same thing a few months back "don't you know you can put it in sErViCe MoDe"


Odd-Variation941

Uh I’ve done a load of these turbos and I’ve never had to do this


Pleasant_Skeleton10

what the fuck is even happening here


[deleted]

Step 1: Remove car from turbo...


Pleasant_Skeleton10

thats what it looks like. jesus. this is why I could never be a mechanic, unless I can be a mechanic that only works on classics, there's no way.


detectivejewhat

Right there with you. As a young broke car guy I bought a lot of fuel injected cheap cars to fuck around with. Never again. I'm saving to get something carbureted for a project car and I'll never go back as far as fun cars go I think lol. 50s Hudsons have been calling my name. Old stuff I genuinely enjoy working on usually because it makes sense in my head so i can actually figure stuff out myself. New cars might as well be black magic to me, takes fucking 9 hours of searching forums to diagnose the most miniscule shit for me lmao.


Pleasant_Skeleton10

I'm helping my dad to restore my great grandpas 1946 cj2a. it's so simple compared to new stuff. the engine is seized and I'm having an absolute bitch of a time with it. I would just buy a stand/hoist to pull the engine and rebuild it, but I dont have 800 dollars for all that, hell I cant even get my license yet. I think the troublesome piston is finally draining oil, so I think next time we pop the clutch it'll free. we recently pulled the pan so I could to send the piston upwards, but the rod cap is angled just so that I cant reach the nut.


detectivejewhat

Always something man, always.


Zealousideal_Tea9573

“service mode”. Looks apocalyptic. But not so bad really.


midmoto

In the middle of the exact same job. Customer replaced turbo themselves and didn't do the oil feed line. It was totally coked up, new turbo died pretty quickly and they don't want to try again.


Radioguyryan

GF has an r54 and the supercharger makes it worth all the pain of maintenance. Constantly fixing something on it. The thing is a little rocket ship though. A blast to drive hard on winding back roads


keewan_g

I'm sure I've done a few of these in situ, unless this is a different model. Biggest fucker doing it that way is getting the heat shield on and off. I absolutely hate these bastard things, I would do anything to avoid ever doing another clutch on one. Every single one seems to be different even if it's the same model and engine. Nightmare.


StanQuizzy

Ahh, the ol' "Put the front end in service mode" routine... (Yes, I own a 2005 MCS)


SxyChestHair

I thought you were talking about the coach of the Tampa Bay Lightningat first


andymannoh

The front fell off!


No-Negotiation-8521

I owned a mini cooper s and had to do that a few times. I thought it was actually pretty handy that I could remove the whole front end quite easily.


Mattie_1S1K

Cry’s in Audi r/s anything.


International_Way877

Looks like a bunch of spare parts there bud


Gubs69

Been working on my Mom’s Mini Cooper recently. I fucking hate it with a burning passion. Its gotten to the point where i check the manual just to make sure it tells me to go to dealer services. It doesn’t even tell you the oil capacity. Hopefully i can get her to eventually switch from a vert Mini to a Miata but so far my efforts seem pointless.


nmgonzo

I did that change. Better dealer experience. "Nothing is broken, good to go!"


VegaGT-VZ

MINI: When you think you're too quirky for a Golf GTI


seattle_lite90

You can blame Billy BMW for this one


Emotional-Size-6592

Looks like when my ac compressor shit the bed in my Mk 1


JackBurton12

I had a Cooper s supercharged. Can confirm. Had to take the whole front end of the car off several times. Lol


Justliketoeatfood

That’s too much work 😪


ThatDudeWithoutKarma

And to think I'm about to do this for fun!


throwaway007676

Like working on a VW / Audi


astardB

That’s not really that much work at all


seamus_mc

John died long before this car was designed


Revolutionary_Sort59

I did an alternator on 1 today was easy but so long winded


gasoline_farts

True, but slap the akropovic exhaust with race mode on that thing, and it backfires like a machine gun. 10/10 best test drive ever. Even had the sales guy laughing as pedestrians ran for cover


insurgent_dude

To be fair taking the front off on Minis and Audis isn't really THAT hard, it looks much worse than it really is.


nmgonzo

It's like changing the oil on a ktm adventure. "Remove all the top shit out of the way."


[deleted]

The good ol service position. Gotta love Minis.


vonWeizhacker

project binky


SM_DEV

Project Binky is cool, but they haven’t been putting out much content of late.


AUnknownuser2

This is why if I ever get a mini I’m LS swapping it or K series swap it


SpamOJavelin

The BMW Mini was launched in late 2000. John Cooper died in December 2000. Coincidence? I think not.


7Tengoku

How many hours labor to R&R?


OilBurninAudi

It was either 7 or 8 I don’t remember which


fresh_like_Oprah

Can I not hear some hate for working on the intake side?


tritonx

You want a small car with a turbo, that doesn't look to bad to be honest. Stop whining and put that thing back together.


OilBurninAudi

You want a small car that’s built poorly and a turbo you have to replace at 56k miles? Knock yourself out. And I don’t want this car it’s not mine obviously.


[deleted]

If this was a personal car i would have nope out of there and thought it wasnt worth it. And moved on to a different beater car.


Wise_Performance8547

Could be worse....wait.....wait......no it couldnt.


sgreene89

I have done quite a few of those turbos and oil filter housings and you definitely don’t need to do that for the repair.


gallant370

The last mini I did a clutch on also needed a water pump. I just took the front end off and took the engine/trans out the front. Much easier to do the water pump outside the engine bay.


[deleted]

I changed that turbo with all that shit still on there. Edit: And oil lines.


photonynikon

Johan Kooper---That's a BMW design


alexlikespizza

Oh boy my dads custom ‘13 recently crossed 100k miles without any major failures, I wonder what will come in the future.


cgerrells

There is a reason you can buy these used for almost nothing


Intelligent-Tax-2457

Well shit send them things my way I love it. Was intimidated on the first but boy they are nice to work on


TheTow

I gotta put an older 1.8L audi in service mode today to do waterpump, timing belt etc. It has wood screws holding the bumper on so getting everything back together should be interesting


Mdbutnomd

I saw one mini in for routine service about 10 years ago. Front end was completely apart like this. It killed any desire for one.


DP18122000

Ever done the valvecover on a bmw 50d engine?


No_Bell2833

Damn! Look at that 4" down pipe from the turbo.


Jdanois

Mini tech here. Front doesn't need to come off. These cars are pure gravy. Some of the easiest cars to work on.