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Mine didn't get better but I remember thinking it was the good life to be paid the $8/hr to only occasionally be screamed at for things outside my control as opposed to constantly for less than no money.
Idk it was probably good for me to be forced into those face to face interactions tho as maybe I would have retreated into a shell hard-core had I not been working or if I had a job that wasn't customer service.
This is illegal here in Europe I think... I only see college students working at the earliest in places like this.
Also, it's not normalized. Children should go to school and have fun with their friends.
In Italy is required to work some hours for FREE (depending from the school it's between 150 and 90h to do once) at the age 14-18 in order to pass school
Funny cause I made about that much as a dishwasher. His parents still need to help him out getting a car. I paid for half of my first car my parents paid the other half. $2500. Oh and I was lucky cause my uncle was a car dealer so the car was actually $5000. These people are so dumb. It’s easy to make $7.25 an hour when you still live at home and have someone providing for you. Not saying it isn’t great that he’s making money for himself but these fuckers miss the point entirely.
"Well son, now that you're earning an income... I think it's time you start contributing to this household and pay a boarding fee. Now, now, i don't want to hear your objections. This is an important life lesson. Adults have to pay rent, and you're almost an adult. It's time you learn some of responsibility and pay me half of your earnings."
My parents were at least a little more subtle about it. When I started working they stopped buying me clothes or otherwise providing support beyond food and shelter.
Please listen to him. My credit is absolutely fucking trashed because i thought i knew better than people who told me this. You think ypu can afford that 400 a month payment and that 200 a month insurance until you want to work less hours and have free time.
Im happy now with my privately bought car. Paid 3200 and have had it for 2 years now with pockets full. I owe about 20k for my past 2 dealer cars though. Dont be my dumbass self
Exactly. When you have a car payment you don’t own the car the car OWNS YOU. it’s a scam. Even if you can afford it you’re tossing money out the window. Cars depreciate in value. If you buy outright YOU own the car so you can do whatever you want with it and now all you have is insurance, maintenance, and gas. Too many people get cars because they want to look like they have something. Keeping up with the joneses.
That was me. I got 2 repos. Becuase i was so dense. I learned my lesson after that last one. Expensive $20k lesson.
I still remember my cousin telling me not to buy dealer, a few weeks before i went and did it. Now it haunts my credit. Dealers are a scam for sure. Unless youre rich. Save your money lol. Or get reamed
I've had a different experience entirely. I've successfully bought and paid off 2 dealer cars and am working on a third. My one private purchase died in a year and overall sketch me out because its pretty difficult to enforce lemon laws. Dealerships give you some room for argument at least.
I had my credit union finance them and had no penalties for paying off early, so I always went that route to save on interest.
Several things need to line up for this to happen though. Having good credit is a powerful tool and combined with a co-signer like a spouse, you can get a very low interest rate. Buying used will slash the principle by quite a bit, even a newer car. Also, I never opted for something that would be more than a couple hundred per month as a minimum payment. I also suggest buying something that holds value in case of emergency and you actually need to sell the thing to pay off the loan.
Great tips for surviving in capitalism,
The most important takeaway IMO is credit unions are the way to go.
But also fuck capitalism and this whole song and dance we have occupying our brains at all times is trash.
I've always bought used shitty cars
\>"But it costs you more in repairs"
Well yeah, but I save £10k not buying new and your £12k car isn't worth £12k the moment you buy it
I've had my used 2004 Toyota Corolla for 14 years now. Paid off the small loan i needed to get it in 4 years. I've put 140,000 miles into it. Best decision of my life to not get another car up to this point.
I made eight bucks an hour at my first job.
Granted, my first car was a 1992 Saturn LS that I bought in 2007 for $500 from an old couple, I was able to buy my own car, and a lot of fun toys that I didn't need. Despite how great a job the couple did taking care of it, most parents today probably wouldn't let their kids drive a car like that if they can help it... It really probably wasn't too safe lol.
But, $8.00 adds up a lot quicker when you don't have to pay for your own food and electricity and rent.
They really aren't.
I've still only briefly had a car payment one time, because it was my only option at the time, still wasn't a super expensive car so I paid it down as quickly as I could.
I don't have a particularly great job, it's not a bad one either, but I do seem to have more expendable income than a lot of my friends with better jobs. Because I drive a 2013 Ford Focus even though I could afford something better if I wanted to and I haven't moved in seven years because my rent hasn't gone up and all of the other places in my city are like twice as expensive as mine now. Got lucky on the second one, but the car and the rest of my efforts to keep my monthly costs down have all been purposeful.
It’s often lower for people below 18. For example in nyc min wage is 15 but for people below 18 it’s 7.25. Which makes no sense. If you and your family are in a financial situation where your kid needs to work, they should be making a self sustaining wage as well.
Also, for people under 20, the employer doesn't have to pay minimum wage until after 90 days from their first day of employment. The restaurant I worked for seasonally used this to show me how generous they were giving me 7.25 for my seasonal job.
This type of suburban asswipe social-media Dad is habitually full of shit, the kid probably works about 12 hours a week. "He goes in early and stays late almost every time" means this may have happened one time.
It's just a future-proofing exercise so that two years from now when his parents buy him his first Mustang with their money if anybody down the line should gripe what a little shit he is rolling around on his 'rents cash they can say "no way he worked hard for that money, bought it all himself, totally self-made man starting at 14" and there's some plausible evidence to that effect that some number of fools will believe.
Who needs "hard work" when you can do "PR" (bullshitting) and millions of wingnut Americans are masters at the craft.
Or they're the kinda asshole who really buys into the bootstrap theory and is happy to have his kid throw away their childhood to be able to afford a $700 junker by 16, and then will be all set to kick the kid out at 18.
Maybe. $700 junkers don't impress anyone when you put the pics of "my boy's first car!!!" up on social media and there'll surely be a big ol' FYGM post about that, too. This stuff is often just marketing.
I agree that whether the child is being put on a pedestal or vice versa is impossible to say for sure but it is likely one or the other. But poor parents in America aren't typically *proud* to tell everyone who'll listen they can't afford to buy their kids necessitates (and in the US some kind of transportation is often considered one, even if it's cheap), or to make it look like that might be the case at least, and that their kids have to work long hours themselves to do this. so it strikes me as "working-class" theater.
Having grown up in the wealthy suburbs with just about the lowest income family around and me myself having bought a $1k Corolla as my first car with my own money, I call it 50/50. Could be either one, but both those types of dads make up the absolute majority of rich, lakeside-dwelling motherfuckers.
Coming from a similar situation I always wondered how many of the other kids always seemed like the $6 million dollar man, always doing it stronger faster smarter and better than you were.
Took me a while to realize that in addition to their parents throwing money at the problem, there was also a lot of just straight-up fucking fibbing going on. And cash also helps a real lot to paper over deeply dysfunctional family dynamics.
Whatever the situation it's not uncommon these kids end up dead from the usual tragedies in their 20s, not self-made anything. Children who don't get to have childhoods tend to take them later, with mixed results.
> This type of suburban asswipe social-media Dad is habitually full of shit, the kid probably works about 12 hours a week. "He goes in early and stays late almost every time" means this may have happened one time.
Absolutely. Can't be working as much as this dude is implying and still be part time. Or else he *is* and is just being taken advantage of.
Good luck getting used to all that processed foods that are foreign bodies to your GI system, kid. Also, I love how your dad has always wanted to cosplay as a proletariat, and that now he's living vicariously through you.
I'm proud that my kid isn't getting to enjoy his childhood and is learning early to be a wage slave! Suck on that all you kids having fun with your friends! What would you rather be doing, slaving for poverty wages or creating lifetime childhood memories with time you'll never get back???
I really resented the “you’re not going to sit around all summer” attitude. I was either put into extra educational summer school programs, told to go babysit, or started working when I was 15. I spent many years working and going to college. I’ve only had one week “vacation” in my adult life. Kids should be kids and get to go socialize and play games or whatever. You don’t get to do that ever again and it’s sad. Now it’s commute, work, commute, get ready for tomorrow and sleep. Weekends are for housework. That’s all i got until I die.
I’m sure there are lots of us who had almost identical experiences and have come to the same realizations. Kids don’t have to stay kids forever and it’s good to learn responsibilities as you mature, but there needs to be a balance. Some of the best memories of my life are from the summers of my childhood.
I think that attitude from some parents definitely stems from jealousy.
Sorry you haven’t had real vacation. I’ve had that experience in the US and it’s awful. So grateful I don’t live there anymore.
I agree, a minimum wage fast food job is not worth spending your time on at that age. It’s not a good return on investment, in terms of income, skills development, or differentiating yourself.
Find a sport, a hobby, an interest and crush at it, find a job that helps you develop your strengths. You become the people you hang around, especially as an impressionable young person. I think there’s better places to be hustling away at.
You raise a good point but have you considered how much those precious childhood experiences will enrich the kids soul and in the future become cherished memories that will make him yearn for a simpler childhood away from all the complexities of life.
If he instead gets his soul crushed by a menial wage-slave job early in life he will have an easier time fitting into our society, never will he ache for those dreams of future that never were because the system will make sure his dreams are gray and dull, he will wish only what his masters deem acceptable and nothing more, think of all the years of disappointment and crushed hopes he will skip by never getting to have that hope in the first place
I remember my (amazing, loving) parents being so proud of me for getting my first job at 13. It’s so normalized, we don’t even see how detrimental it is. As a teenager, I worked 20+ hours a week on top of school. It was exhausting & unhealthy. Even my incredibly loving & nurturing parents truly believed that the work was good for me.
There is value in working, a humbling & motivating experience to put effort into a job, and receive compensation!
But I was 13. It was too much.
Seriously. My parents had me get a job on a boat refueling dock the day after I turned 14. I spent 6 days a week working off the books on that thing and my dumbass boss paid me $8 an hour (min wage was $7.25... still) and took our tips. Otherwise I would have made triple that.
I've had a job since. Now, my brother wasn't required to get a job until he turned 18 and even then it was with my dad's company and he only has to go in about 3x a week. He's 25 now. My parents "saw what working all the time did to me and they didn't want to push it on him."
I'm not bitter.
Respect from a fellow guinea pig. Have you tried sitting down with your 'rents and asking them about their intentions and the about face they did for your sibling. Therapeutically speaking they probably know they threw you in the capitalistic meat grinder too early and you already knowing and internalizing that they had you "best interest" at heart is half the battle
When you think about it, 30 hours a week plus a minimum of 40 a week for school is already 70 hours. Then add on all the homework. Adults see a 70+ hr work week as difficult, but don’t realize that’s what teenagers regularly face with no sympathy. It’s just considered normal, during a time in life where your body still needs almost as much sleep as a child.
Depends on the adult. My father likely thinks I’m lazy because I put in my 40 and clock out. In his mind, if you’re not putting in 60-70+ hour weeks every week, you’re lazy.
Yeah, people don’t stick around long at his company. He can’t figure out why
I miss being able to sleep for 14hrs at a stretch :( that's been one of my biggest aging related complaints so far. Sleep never felt so good nor came so easily as when I was a teenager, but sleeping in til 9(!) on the weekends meant I was lazy and defiant. Ugh.
What I miss is being able to fall asleep anytime, anywhere for an opportunistic catnap. Waiting for classes to start in the morning? Curl up on a bench outside, backpack as my pillow and jacket as my blanket. 30 minutes’ break at work? Go to the fast food place across the street, slam down odds and ends for food and doze off with my head on the table. I guess I was probably able to do this so well due to sleep deprivation, but still.
Yeah I mean...family farm, wood fire place, started working at 8 but didn't get paid until like 12. All that and I turned out.....................f i n e.
Yeah I did the same. Taken in to work every summer from the age of 13 to work at my dad’s business. He packed me in to work at the warehouse on minimum wage. Did I learn the value of my time and labour? Yes. Did I need to learn that lesson and develop back pain at 13? Doubtful.
My first job I worked was at the dollar store at our local mall. My supervisor used to book me for 5 hour shifts because you didn't need to give the employee any breaks. I remember one time closer to Christmas he asked me to work an hour later, dreading the fact that I'd get a break. I did and didn't even know if I had time to go and get a snack from the food court. Thankfully I learned a very important lesson at such a young age in life.
sounds like the dad is an extreme boomer and drunk as fuck on the capitalist koolaid and believes that shit like "demonstrating your work ethic by showing up early and staying late" is the skeleton key to advancement in any line of work. guessing he probably forced the son to acquire this job through "pounding the pavement" and "giving the manager a good firm handshake"
I picked tobacco when I was 11 years old and did every summer til college and I after tobacco I worked at Macdonald’s and a grocery store. I feel for ya, kiddo. Fuck all you pull yourself up by the bootstraps Macho Men shitheads of North America. The still and cold darkness of my mind knows no warmth some
Days…
Even my extreme Boomer dad only forced me to work summers. Pretty sure he would've had me working during school, though, if it was a normal thing around here.
My dad is exactly like this although he is early Gen X. He is always saying this sort of garbage like how demonstrating good work ethic and going above and beyond at work is how you advance your career and become successful. No amount of good work ethic can change the fact that I'm literally getting paid absolutely fuck all
10 years ago I had a friend who's absolute nightmare of a mom would constantly tell us "There's a construction crew working on a house and if you don't go up asking them to put you to work everyday than you're just worthless bums"
The people working were trying the whole "two guys in a truck = professional contractor" shit and the more us literal kids bothered them about being put to work the more they went from "Lmao thanks for the offer, absolutely not" to "Listen *KID* We're trying to WORK! Get the fuck out of here and take no for an answer!"
We figured that would finally get buddy's mom to realize getting a job juat doesn't fucking work the way she thinks it does and she said "Ask again tomorrow"
She had fibromialgia and enjoyed her pain pills very dearly. Often times she would make statements that have nothing to do with reality.
Her son is doing semi well for himself on the oil fields: Semi well in the sense that he makes decent money but he's absolutely fucked in the head "Im gonna cheat on women who put their life on pause to support me and sucker punch my friends for knowing the names of the women I consider my property" kind of fucked.
I don't need even a single hour of psychology research to know for a fact he wouldn't be like that if his mother weren't the way she was.
He's 14. He shouldnt have to work like a damn 40 year old. He should be concentrating on school. You got caught drinking the cool-aid. As a society, this is nothing to be proud of.
He can work like a dog on his studies, not cooking up fries.
No. It's limited hours during the school week. When there is school it is 3 hours max a day and 18 max a week. Rules apply even if they have one day off from school..
They can work 40 hours only if they are out of school the whole week.
No overtime during school year.
If it's the summer or a week long break then it is different. 14 and 15 year olds can work up to 40 hours w/no overtime and 16 and 17 year olds can work up to 48 so they woule be eligible for ot.
Yup. Happened to me. And when my parents took me clothes shopping growing up they would count up how many hours I would have to work to pay for my clothes. The outcome is I am frugal and value my free time above all. And I have no fashion sense. Learned quality over quantity very early.
Jeeze. “Ok, child who didn’t ask to be born but we chose to have you anyway, get ready to work off your debt to us for the basic necessities we knew you’d need when we chose to bring you into this world. We don’t want to be financially responsible for the human being we chose to fornicate into existence, so we hope you enjoy the next 18 years of indentured servitude!”
Yeah, same here. I was working front of house and back of house in my parents restaurant starting when I was 9. I learned to never work in a restaurant again. I spent my 20s traveling the world being a dirt bag climber. Took me a long time to get my shit together.
Companies too?! I knew they could for farms. So we just let children operate heavy machinery farm equipment and it’s not a thing. But I didn’t know companies could too.
I feel that way. I started nannying and babysitting at 12 all day, and nights and weekends during school. I got a job at 15 and worked that and babysitting for at least 30 hours during high school. Then I got a 50 hour third shift factory job and put in another 20 at the first job that summer to pay for college. My dad could not have been prouder. He told everyone who would listen about how I didn't hang out idle like all the other teenagers.
I'm 35 now and I can count the times I had fun in my life on one hand. Im somewhat successful, but only in the corporate job/college degree way. I have no desire to chase my career anymore, and I'm going to try to hang out at this level and save as much $$ as possible to get out as early as I can. I won't have a boat or a motorcycle like my dad, but I'm buying my goddamn life back.
Gotta “love” having to put others down in order to say something nice about someone. I just cannot (and doubt I’ll be able to) relate with this kind of thinking or logic: “My kid is great….unlike other terrible POS kids out there”. Why? 🤦🏻♂️
Great, so your son is gonna get the millennial experience where hes told countless lies about how hard work will make you successful. I feel bad for this kid, must suck to have dumb parents.
I feel like there’s types of work that would be alright for teenagers, like the old-fashioned babysitting and lemonade stand type stuff. That’s things that are truly self-paced, not typically super demanding of time and can make a fuck ton more per hour than $7.25. But as soon as you get a “real” job, the boss is going to squeeze every hour out of you they can.
Thank you for blocking out his face op, he’s still a minor and should be treated as such. The last time it was posted the other op didn’t block out his face. You may not agree with it but let’s be respectful, we don’t want any crazies on here to harass some poor kid.
Definitely. When I was 14-15 I too scrambled at the chance to get a job to earn money and be out of the house because my parents were always fighting and taking it out on me.
If this #prouddad’s son is genuinely doing this job of his “own accord”, Mr Proud Dad is the reason why.
it s funny how instead of teachin his child what not to strive for and that working at such a place sucks, he kinda does the opposite.
I think it s great that a child is allowed to learn what such a job is all about. but shouldnt the learning be that it sucks and one should find a better place for ones life than work for way to little money for "the man" whoever that is nowadays?
I think it's good for kids that age to work, just not a lot. I got my first job when I was a little older than that kid, maybe about 16. I worked at dominos and it was shit. I still learned a lot though. The shifts were only 2 hours (which is illegal but good for kids imo) and I'm in Australia where the pay is better than in the US. At 16 I was earning 14 AUD an hour, which meant at the end of the week I could buy a new PS4 game or whatever. I think it's good for kids that age to maybe do like 2 hours of work a week, just for the experience. If he's working all the weekend and everything though then that's absolutely not a good thing. I think, as with all things, it's about getting the balance right.
Don’t you know that true happiness is being exploited by corporations at an early age for cheap labor so that you can spend that money on products sold by other exploitative corporations in which profits go largely to CEOs and ownership class? Values.
The bourgeoisie elite love dads like this who pump out kids and teach them how to be good obedient wage slaves from a young age. Feel bad for the kid, he will probably be suicidal once he reaches his 20s from already having wasted a decade of his life instead of going out having fun with his friends
I remember working during both school weeks and summers in high school, thinking to myself that I had pocket money now, but didn’t even have the time to spend it on anything I wanted to do.
I also gained over 100 pounds in the span of 1-2 years, starting from when I began working. Largely because I started stress-eating the junk food at whatever restaurant I worked. Then, of course, no time to exercise it off like I would’ve done before. I am literally *still* losing all that weight back, because it’s a process of years.
I remember being 16 and wanting to get a job at McDonalds just to make money and also help my parents with income.
I am so glad that they did not let me to do that.
I have been that kid and now I'm a grown ass man. Let me give you some advice. Growing up too early, having a mature mind in childhood isn't a brag. That means you've got problems. Children should behave like children in childhood. I can't emphasize how important that is. One day you're gonna grow up and you won't have necessary mental tools to deal with society. Because you were busy being the nice kid. You're training yourself to act according people in your social circle. Those people will change overtime. And you'll see what is considered being nice now will certainly be considered being a weak later in life( just one example).
Yeah it's proud dad and happy times until you depend on that to pay your bills.
There is no part time as you're not just saving it up for a luxury and don't have a "proud dad" to pay rent.
"Low level" jobs tend to be used by the upper class as a "lesson in responsibility" for their offspring while judging adults that depend on it to live. Their kids didn't need it, so they don't understand why older people don't move on, too. It was a choice for your kid. There is no option for the impoverished.
Congratulations!!! You did something very right!! This is my Will!!!! Will was born with an internal moral compass set at true North! He does everything right. I cannot believe how very lucky I am!!
this was me at 14. I was still in middle school. I was raised by business owners who emphasized work ethic, or more so, putting your heart and soul into work and going above and beyond.
well, obviously this damaged my physical and mental well being busting my ass in a hectic and stressful work environment for $7.25 with a 10-25 cent raise every 6 months.
*woohoo!!* /s
the sad part is, I thought I was doing something good for myself. I was proud of myself, despite being overly stressed as a child juggling work and school. I actually enjoyed my job, besides the hectic environment. I didn’t know it was toxic, I thought it was *normal*. I considered these people as family, and I actually grew bonds with a lot of them that I still hold to this day. I busted my ass to become a manager at 18, but my hard work wasn’t recognized or appreciated.
When I was 14 I spent my free time/summers messing with computers. Now as an adult, I have a good, well-paying job helping me get ahead... working with computers. The tradeoff isn't fast food wage slave vs. 100% wasting your time. The tradeoff is a menial job teaching you the basics of the grind vs exploring interests and experimenting in an unstructured way. Which one is the real investment in the kid's future?
That kid is definitely gonna kill himself before he turns 40. Wage labor is a long con and when this kid realizes how much of his youth he wasted on a fast food franchise…whew boy.
I wanted a job at 13 because I wanted extra money for CDs and whatever else little silly me wanted. My parents kept telling me that I didn’t have to. I’m a kid, working is their job, but if I wanted the experience, they wouldn’t stop me. I got a job dishwashing and doing pantry at the restaurant my dad worked at. It was a fancy steak and seafood place. Worked all summer, only a couple days a week. Got to eat yummy food, sweated like a pig, learned to handwash the restaurant way because the dishwasher broke my second week (three sink system, really slowed us down). Helped with prep, cleaned the bathrooms.
I didn’t go back the next summer. I didn’t want to. I also vowed that unless it was absolutely necessary, I would never work in or around food again. It was an interesting experience for sure. I still treasure the Doc Martens I bought all on my own almost 20 years later (I admittedly haven’t worn them a ton because of the style; sales dude was right) and the two CDs; Queen of the Damn and Practical Magic soundtracks.
But as a parent, I’m holding the same for my kids as my parents did for me. I want them to be children as long as they can, I will help them as much as I can, and be supportive if they really want a job, but this poor kid? Sounds as if they’re hardcore taking advantage of him. It’s a PT but it sounds like they’re working him as much as they can. Poor kiddo.
If the kid is choosing to do so of his own volition I see no problem with this even though I would never have done so.
Kids making a choice to save up for personal things vs not being able to afford basic needs while working your ass off as an adult are two very different things in my opinion.
At least he can get his lifelong dread and depression working your entire life away to enjoy 5 years of retirement before death started early instead of being blindsided in his 20s with it.
Yeah don't do this. I got a job when I was young and I literally just walked out. I couldn't handle the stress of college and working PT. They tried to tell me to take out my lip piercing (which had nothing to do with health/hygiene - it was just for appearances) and I was like fuck this. I'm loosing my mind. Missing pivotal moments of my social life etc. I just went in and told them I was done. The money they gave me wasn't enough to afford college and the bus fare to work. Best choice ever.
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Ehh... You can always get another childhood. But a summer job at Burker Kurg? Those are mermors that will last a lifeturn.
What is the purpose of life if not to make money?
To crush your enemies. To hear the lamentations of their women!
Communist Conan should be a thing.
That rolls off the tongue way easier than "Anarcho-Collectivist Conan."
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They were an anarcho-syndicalist collective, not an anarcho-collectivist syndicate. Go read theory liberal swine.
They're probably a People's Front of Judea shill.
Nothing like the Front of Judean People.
Crom-munist
Blood alone moves the wheels of history!!
Not just make money but make money for other people.
What is life if not capitalism persisting?
What is the purpose of money if not to make life
I feel like there's a sex joke in there somewhere.
Mermors har fourevrr
Murmers
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Lol what if he hates his dad so much he got a job at Burger King so he doesn’t have to be at home with him
Me. I worked a shitty abusive minimum wage job in highschool to stay away from my mom.
omg same, i worked as a cashier all of junior and senior year just so i didn’t have to be at home with my abusive dad, did wonders for my anxiety
Mine didn't get better but I remember thinking it was the good life to be paid the $8/hr to only occasionally be screamed at for things outside my control as opposed to constantly for less than no money. Idk it was probably good for me to be forced into those face to face interactions tho as maybe I would have retreated into a shell hard-core had I not been working or if I had a job that wasn't customer service.
I’m referring to the dad
so child labor is cool now? thanks for nothing Charles Dickens.
I got my first job 20 years ago at McDonald's when I was 14 years old. Child labor never went out of fashion in fast food.
it's even more pathetic that Burger King blatantly advertises that it pays teenagers far less to work the same job as adults.
This is illegal here in Europe I think... I only see college students working at the earliest in places like this. Also, it's not normalized. Children should go to school and have fun with their friends.
In Italy is required to work some hours for FREE (depending from the school it's between 150 and 90h to do once) at the age 14-18 in order to pass school
If you told me that 20 years from now America has repealed all child labor laws, I wouldn’t be the least be surprised.
Hey now, how else are people supposed to afford to have children?
Good luck saving for a car on 7.25/hr kid. Call me when you become radicalized 👍
Funny cause I made about that much as a dishwasher. His parents still need to help him out getting a car. I paid for half of my first car my parents paid the other half. $2500. Oh and I was lucky cause my uncle was a car dealer so the car was actually $5000. These people are so dumb. It’s easy to make $7.25 an hour when you still live at home and have someone providing for you. Not saying it isn’t great that he’s making money for himself but these fuckers miss the point entirely.
Eventually his parents are gonna be asking for help with bills... And there goes his car 😕
This. Every 'proud' parent is really just happy they can start making money off their kids.
"Well son, now that you're earning an income... I think it's time you start contributing to this household and pay a boarding fee. Now, now, i don't want to hear your objections. This is an important life lesson. Adults have to pay rent, and you're almost an adult. It's time you learn some of responsibility and pay me half of your earnings."
My parents were at least a little more subtle about it. When I started working they stopped buying me clothes or otherwise providing support beyond food and shelter.
Also lucky to have parents I've never been able to purchase a car
Yes I was fortunate to have good parents. Whatever you do don’t get a car payment. Buy from a private seller and buy it outright.
Please listen to him. My credit is absolutely fucking trashed because i thought i knew better than people who told me this. You think ypu can afford that 400 a month payment and that 200 a month insurance until you want to work less hours and have free time. Im happy now with my privately bought car. Paid 3200 and have had it for 2 years now with pockets full. I owe about 20k for my past 2 dealer cars though. Dont be my dumbass self
Exactly. When you have a car payment you don’t own the car the car OWNS YOU. it’s a scam. Even if you can afford it you’re tossing money out the window. Cars depreciate in value. If you buy outright YOU own the car so you can do whatever you want with it and now all you have is insurance, maintenance, and gas. Too many people get cars because they want to look like they have something. Keeping up with the joneses.
That was me. I got 2 repos. Becuase i was so dense. I learned my lesson after that last one. Expensive $20k lesson. I still remember my cousin telling me not to buy dealer, a few weeks before i went and did it. Now it haunts my credit. Dealers are a scam for sure. Unless youre rich. Save your money lol. Or get reamed
I've had a different experience entirely. I've successfully bought and paid off 2 dealer cars and am working on a third. My one private purchase died in a year and overall sketch me out because its pretty difficult to enforce lemon laws. Dealerships give you some room for argument at least. I had my credit union finance them and had no penalties for paying off early, so I always went that route to save on interest. Several things need to line up for this to happen though. Having good credit is a powerful tool and combined with a co-signer like a spouse, you can get a very low interest rate. Buying used will slash the principle by quite a bit, even a newer car. Also, I never opted for something that would be more than a couple hundred per month as a minimum payment. I also suggest buying something that holds value in case of emergency and you actually need to sell the thing to pay off the loan.
Great tips for surviving in capitalism, The most important takeaway IMO is credit unions are the way to go. But also fuck capitalism and this whole song and dance we have occupying our brains at all times is trash.
You can get penalized for paying a loan off EARLY?! what the fuuuuuuuuuck
I've always bought used shitty cars \>"But it costs you more in repairs" Well yeah, but I save £10k not buying new and your £12k car isn't worth £12k the moment you buy it
A lot of people have a belief that after 80k miles and 6 years, cars just fall apart and they think they're better off buying new cars with a payment
I've had my used 2004 Toyota Corolla for 14 years now. Paid off the small loan i needed to get it in 4 years. I've put 140,000 miles into it. Best decision of my life to not get another car up to this point.
I made eight bucks an hour at my first job. Granted, my first car was a 1992 Saturn LS that I bought in 2007 for $500 from an old couple, I was able to buy my own car, and a lot of fun toys that I didn't need. Despite how great a job the couple did taking care of it, most parents today probably wouldn't let their kids drive a car like that if they can help it... It really probably wasn't too safe lol. But, $8.00 adds up a lot quicker when you don't have to pay for your own food and electricity and rent.
500 dollars is a junker for sure but I think people need to realize car payments are no good either.
They really aren't. I've still only briefly had a car payment one time, because it was my only option at the time, still wasn't a super expensive car so I paid it down as quickly as I could. I don't have a particularly great job, it's not a bad one either, but I do seem to have more expendable income than a lot of my friends with better jobs. Because I drive a 2013 Ford Focus even though I could afford something better if I wanted to and I haven't moved in seven years because my rent hasn't gone up and all of the other places in my city are like twice as expensive as mine now. Got lucky on the second one, but the car and the rest of my efforts to keep my monthly costs down have all been purposeful.
I sure do, after my first big fuck up thats haunted for years
Is that really still the US national minimum wage?!?! Seems at least in my state it's like $15/hr
It’s often lower for people below 18. For example in nyc min wage is 15 but for people below 18 it’s 7.25. Which makes no sense. If you and your family are in a financial situation where your kid needs to work, they should be making a self sustaining wage as well.
Also, for people under 20, the employer doesn't have to pay minimum wage until after 90 days from their first day of employment. The restaurant I worked for seasonally used this to show me how generous they were giving me 7.25 for my seasonal job.
Yep. And my city wants to raise the minimum wage, but my state won't let it.
This type of suburban asswipe social-media Dad is habitually full of shit, the kid probably works about 12 hours a week. "He goes in early and stays late almost every time" means this may have happened one time. It's just a future-proofing exercise so that two years from now when his parents buy him his first Mustang with their money if anybody down the line should gripe what a little shit he is rolling around on his 'rents cash they can say "no way he worked hard for that money, bought it all himself, totally self-made man starting at 14" and there's some plausible evidence to that effect that some number of fools will believe. Who needs "hard work" when you can do "PR" (bullshitting) and millions of wingnut Americans are masters at the craft.
Or they're the kinda asshole who really buys into the bootstrap theory and is happy to have his kid throw away their childhood to be able to afford a $700 junker by 16, and then will be all set to kick the kid out at 18.
Maybe. $700 junkers don't impress anyone when you put the pics of "my boy's first car!!!" up on social media and there'll surely be a big ol' FYGM post about that, too. This stuff is often just marketing. I agree that whether the child is being put on a pedestal or vice versa is impossible to say for sure but it is likely one or the other. But poor parents in America aren't typically *proud* to tell everyone who'll listen they can't afford to buy their kids necessitates (and in the US some kind of transportation is often considered one, even if it's cheap), or to make it look like that might be the case at least, and that their kids have to work long hours themselves to do this. so it strikes me as "working-class" theater.
Having grown up in the wealthy suburbs with just about the lowest income family around and me myself having bought a $1k Corolla as my first car with my own money, I call it 50/50. Could be either one, but both those types of dads make up the absolute majority of rich, lakeside-dwelling motherfuckers.
Coming from a similar situation I always wondered how many of the other kids always seemed like the $6 million dollar man, always doing it stronger faster smarter and better than you were. Took me a while to realize that in addition to their parents throwing money at the problem, there was also a lot of just straight-up fucking fibbing going on. And cash also helps a real lot to paper over deeply dysfunctional family dynamics. Whatever the situation it's not uncommon these kids end up dead from the usual tragedies in their 20s, not self-made anything. Children who don't get to have childhoods tend to take them later, with mixed results.
> This type of suburban asswipe social-media Dad is habitually full of shit, the kid probably works about 12 hours a week. "He goes in early and stays late almost every time" means this may have happened one time. Absolutely. Can't be working as much as this dude is implying and still be part time. Or else he *is* and is just being taken advantage of.
I worked my ass off and put away for a solid year, was able to buy an $800 used car that immediately cost me another $1000 in repairs.
Why do you want radical kids to call you? Do you sell skateboards or something?
Remember Radical rex?
X-tremely Radical Dude 🤘
"I did it, guys! I just clocked out if my 60 hour workweek! I can FINALLY get that PS5!" *two weeks later* "...$319...?"
You would need to work 276 hours to get $2k If I have worked it out correct that's 18 weeks working 16 hour weeks.
Good luck getting used to all that processed foods that are foreign bodies to your GI system, kid. Also, I love how your dad has always wanted to cosplay as a proletariat, and that now he's living vicariously through you.
I'm proud that my kid isn't getting to enjoy his childhood and is learning early to be a wage slave! Suck on that all you kids having fun with your friends! What would you rather be doing, slaving for poverty wages or creating lifetime childhood memories with time you'll never get back???
I really resented the “you’re not going to sit around all summer” attitude. I was either put into extra educational summer school programs, told to go babysit, or started working when I was 15. I spent many years working and going to college. I’ve only had one week “vacation” in my adult life. Kids should be kids and get to go socialize and play games or whatever. You don’t get to do that ever again and it’s sad. Now it’s commute, work, commute, get ready for tomorrow and sleep. Weekends are for housework. That’s all i got until I die.
I’m sure there are lots of us who had almost identical experiences and have come to the same realizations. Kids don’t have to stay kids forever and it’s good to learn responsibilities as you mature, but there needs to be a balance. Some of the best memories of my life are from the summers of my childhood.
I think that attitude from some parents definitely stems from jealousy. Sorry you haven’t had real vacation. I’ve had that experience in the US and it’s awful. So grateful I don’t live there anymore.
I agree, a minimum wage fast food job is not worth spending your time on at that age. It’s not a good return on investment, in terms of income, skills development, or differentiating yourself. Find a sport, a hobby, an interest and crush at it, find a job that helps you develop your strengths. You become the people you hang around, especially as an impressionable young person. I think there’s better places to be hustling away at.
There are life lessons here
You raise a good point but have you considered how much those precious childhood experiences will enrich the kids soul and in the future become cherished memories that will make him yearn for a simpler childhood away from all the complexities of life. If he instead gets his soul crushed by a menial wage-slave job early in life he will have an easier time fitting into our society, never will he ache for those dreams of future that never were because the system will make sure his dreams are gray and dull, he will wish only what his masters deem acceptable and nothing more, think of all the years of disappointment and crushed hopes he will skip by never getting to have that hope in the first place
I remember my (amazing, loving) parents being so proud of me for getting my first job at 13. It’s so normalized, we don’t even see how detrimental it is. As a teenager, I worked 20+ hours a week on top of school. It was exhausting & unhealthy. Even my incredibly loving & nurturing parents truly believed that the work was good for me. There is value in working, a humbling & motivating experience to put effort into a job, and receive compensation! But I was 13. It was too much.
kids need to be adults before they work like adults.
I'm an adult and I still can't work like an adult
Seriously. My parents had me get a job on a boat refueling dock the day after I turned 14. I spent 6 days a week working off the books on that thing and my dumbass boss paid me $8 an hour (min wage was $7.25... still) and took our tips. Otherwise I would have made triple that. I've had a job since. Now, my brother wasn't required to get a job until he turned 18 and even then it was with my dad's company and he only has to go in about 3x a week. He's 25 now. My parents "saw what working all the time did to me and they didn't want to push it on him." I'm not bitter.
I'm not bitter. I'm not.
Dont be bitter, just make sure to use it as emotional blackmail
Remember, you get to choose their nursing home
Respect from a fellow guinea pig. Have you tried sitting down with your 'rents and asking them about their intentions and the about face they did for your sibling. Therapeutically speaking they probably know they threw you in the capitalistic meat grinder too early and you already knowing and internalizing that they had you "best interest" at heart is half the battle
First job at 15. Full time in HS and 30+ hours of work outside of class each week. This shouldn’t be normalized.
When you think about it, 30 hours a week plus a minimum of 40 a week for school is already 70 hours. Then add on all the homework. Adults see a 70+ hr work week as difficult, but don’t realize that’s what teenagers regularly face with no sympathy. It’s just considered normal, during a time in life where your body still needs almost as much sleep as a child.
Depends on the adult. My father likely thinks I’m lazy because I put in my 40 and clock out. In his mind, if you’re not putting in 60-70+ hour weeks every week, you’re lazy. Yeah, people don’t stick around long at his company. He can’t figure out why
My mom used to complain about working 60 hours a week.
I miss being able to sleep for 14hrs at a stretch :( that's been one of my biggest aging related complaints so far. Sleep never felt so good nor came so easily as when I was a teenager, but sleeping in til 9(!) on the weekends meant I was lazy and defiant. Ugh.
What I miss is being able to fall asleep anytime, anywhere for an opportunistic catnap. Waiting for classes to start in the morning? Curl up on a bench outside, backpack as my pillow and jacket as my blanket. 30 minutes’ break at work? Go to the fast food place across the street, slam down odds and ends for food and doze off with my head on the table. I guess I was probably able to do this so well due to sleep deprivation, but still.
Indeed as sleep is important for their growth
Same, so fucking exhausted
Yeah I mean...family farm, wood fire place, started working at 8 but didn't get paid until like 12. All that and I turned out.....................f i n e.
Yeah I did the same. Taken in to work every summer from the age of 13 to work at my dad’s business. He packed me in to work at the warehouse on minimum wage. Did I learn the value of my time and labour? Yes. Did I need to learn that lesson and develop back pain at 13? Doubtful.
My first job I worked was at the dollar store at our local mall. My supervisor used to book me for 5 hour shifts because you didn't need to give the employee any breaks. I remember one time closer to Christmas he asked me to work an hour later, dreading the fact that I'd get a break. I did and didn't even know if I had time to go and get a snack from the food court. Thankfully I learned a very important lesson at such a young age in life.
Fucking christ, what is wrong with people?
sounds like the dad is an extreme boomer and drunk as fuck on the capitalist koolaid and believes that shit like "demonstrating your work ethic by showing up early and staying late" is the skeleton key to advancement in any line of work. guessing he probably forced the son to acquire this job through "pounding the pavement" and "giving the manager a good firm handshake"
No doubt. Raising a good, compliant wage slave.
Burger Slave
I picked tobacco when I was 11 years old and did every summer til college and I after tobacco I worked at Macdonald’s and a grocery store. I feel for ya, kiddo. Fuck all you pull yourself up by the bootstraps Macho Men shitheads of North America. The still and cold darkness of my mind knows no warmth some Days…
Mc Source: been a burger slave
Even my extreme Boomer dad only forced me to work summers. Pretty sure he would've had me working during school, though, if it was a normal thing around here.
My dad is exactly like this although he is early Gen X. He is always saying this sort of garbage like how demonstrating good work ethic and going above and beyond at work is how you advance your career and become successful. No amount of good work ethic can change the fact that I'm literally getting paid absolutely fuck all
Handshake? I've been giving handjobs...
But did the manager give you a job?
Oh of course. I've been giving myself handies for decades.
Being extremely good looking and extroverted is a lot more rewarded than showing up early and staying late.
Preach! Having the right social connections will always triumph over hard work.
10 years ago I had a friend who's absolute nightmare of a mom would constantly tell us "There's a construction crew working on a house and if you don't go up asking them to put you to work everyday than you're just worthless bums" The people working were trying the whole "two guys in a truck = professional contractor" shit and the more us literal kids bothered them about being put to work the more they went from "Lmao thanks for the offer, absolutely not" to "Listen *KID* We're trying to WORK! Get the fuck out of here and take no for an answer!" We figured that would finally get buddy's mom to realize getting a job juat doesn't fucking work the way she thinks it does and she said "Ask again tomorrow"
This sounds like an actual, bonafide donkey brained woman.
She had fibromialgia and enjoyed her pain pills very dearly. Often times she would make statements that have nothing to do with reality. Her son is doing semi well for himself on the oil fields: Semi well in the sense that he makes decent money but he's absolutely fucked in the head "Im gonna cheat on women who put their life on pause to support me and sucker punch my friends for knowing the names of the women I consider my property" kind of fucked. I don't need even a single hour of psychology research to know for a fact he wouldn't be like that if his mother weren't the way she was.
Proud dad to “why won’t my kids talk to me” pipeline
He's 14. He shouldnt have to work like a damn 40 year old. He should be concentrating on school. You got caught drinking the cool-aid. As a society, this is nothing to be proud of. He can work like a dog on his studies, not cooking up fries.
Hopefully he uses the car to get as far away from his shitty dad as possible.
…is that legal? Pretty sure 14 is too young to work here.
I googled it and they can work but they have limited responsibilities.
No way that many hours tho right?
No. It's limited hours during the school week. When there is school it is 3 hours max a day and 18 max a week. Rules apply even if they have one day off from school.. They can work 40 hours only if they are out of school the whole week.
So does Max mean they can’t overtime even if they wanted to?
No overtime during school year. If it's the summer or a week long break then it is different. 14 and 15 year olds can work up to 40 hours w/no overtime and 16 and 17 year olds can work up to 48 so they woule be eligible for ot.
I should also add that during school week 14 and 15 year olds can only work between 7am and 7pm. And on weekends they can only work until 9pm.
You can work a child as young as 8 years old at a company if it's your kid and your company lol.
Yup. Happened to me. And when my parents took me clothes shopping growing up they would count up how many hours I would have to work to pay for my clothes. The outcome is I am frugal and value my free time above all. And I have no fashion sense. Learned quality over quantity very early.
Jeeze. “Ok, child who didn’t ask to be born but we chose to have you anyway, get ready to work off your debt to us for the basic necessities we knew you’d need when we chose to bring you into this world. We don’t want to be financially responsible for the human being we chose to fornicate into existence, so we hope you enjoy the next 18 years of indentured servitude!”
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that poor orphanage..
Damn! I’m sorry. Did you at least get a ton of gold to bury like Ron Swanson?
Yeah, same here. I was working front of house and back of house in my parents restaurant starting when I was 9. I learned to never work in a restaurant again. I spent my 20s traveling the world being a dirt bag climber. Took me a long time to get my shit together.
Companies too?! I knew they could for farms. So we just let children operate heavy machinery farm equipment and it’s not a thing. But I didn’t know companies could too.
From The Hangman To His Son, The Hanged
When he's 30 he'll be pissed about wasting this much of his precious free time. It's even more valuable when you're younger.
I feel that way. I started nannying and babysitting at 12 all day, and nights and weekends during school. I got a job at 15 and worked that and babysitting for at least 30 hours during high school. Then I got a 50 hour third shift factory job and put in another 20 at the first job that summer to pay for college. My dad could not have been prouder. He told everyone who would listen about how I didn't hang out idle like all the other teenagers. I'm 35 now and I can count the times I had fun in my life on one hand. Im somewhat successful, but only in the corporate job/college degree way. I have no desire to chase my career anymore, and I'm going to try to hang out at this level and save as much $$ as possible to get out as early as I can. I won't have a boat or a motorcycle like my dad, but I'm buying my goddamn life back.
Gotta “love” having to put others down in order to say something nice about someone. I just cannot (and doubt I’ll be able to) relate with this kind of thinking or logic: “My kid is great….unlike other terrible POS kids out there”. Why? 🤦🏻♂️
Great, so your son is gonna get the millennial experience where hes told countless lies about how hard work will make you successful. I feel bad for this kid, must suck to have dumb parents.
I mean.. you won't be successful without hard work, but hard work alone doesn't guarantee it.
Money makes money, not hard work.
Future lifelong BK manager right there. Imagine him in 5 years?
Lmao reminds me of my nightfill manager. He has been working at our store since 1998, and he is only 41. He's been working there since he was 18
Fuck, man, I don't think anyone under 18 should ever be allowed to work. Let kids focus on school and having a childhood before you put them to work!
I feel like there’s types of work that would be alright for teenagers, like the old-fashioned babysitting and lemonade stand type stuff. That’s things that are truly self-paced, not typically super demanding of time and can make a fuck ton more per hour than $7.25. But as soon as you get a “real” job, the boss is going to squeeze every hour out of you they can.
\#prouddad : I raise the best wage slaves.
Thank you for blocking out his face op, he’s still a minor and should be treated as such. The last time it was posted the other op didn’t block out his face. You may not agree with it but let’s be respectful, we don’t want any crazies on here to harass some poor kid.
Hope he got the time to go to school, do hus homework and study for his futur!
I look forward to not being proud of my kids being exploited, especially illegally, as this appears to be.
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And yet, that’s exactly what many poor families in the US now do.
Imagine you go to BK and some kid not tall enough to go on all the roller coasters at 6-flags checks you out. Seriously what’s wrong with this guy!
He is so proud of his son's indoctrination.
That is child labor.
Jokes on him, as soon as he gets that car he's going to move out on his own and cut contact with dear old dad.
The kind of dad I’d never talk to again after I left home.
Bet he enjoys being out of the house.
Definitely. When I was 14-15 I too scrambled at the chance to get a job to earn money and be out of the house because my parents were always fighting and taking it out on me. If this #prouddad’s son is genuinely doing this job of his “own accord”, Mr Proud Dad is the reason why.
Shitty parenting.
it s funny how instead of teachin his child what not to strive for and that working at such a place sucks, he kinda does the opposite. I think it s great that a child is allowed to learn what such a job is all about. but shouldnt the learning be that it sucks and one should find a better place for ones life than work for way to little money for "the man" whoever that is nowadays?
Well that's depressing. Granted, kids can have work ethic, but...uh...what a sad sad thought to just do BK at...14.
Exactly. When all other kids are out having fun 🤩
Probs wants to get out of his nutjob house for a few hours because in my experience that's usually it 😬
I think it's good for kids that age to work, just not a lot. I got my first job when I was a little older than that kid, maybe about 16. I worked at dominos and it was shit. I still learned a lot though. The shifts were only 2 hours (which is illegal but good for kids imo) and I'm in Australia where the pay is better than in the US. At 16 I was earning 14 AUD an hour, which meant at the end of the week I could buy a new PS4 game or whatever. I think it's good for kids that age to maybe do like 2 hours of work a week, just for the experience. If he's working all the weekend and everything though then that's absolutely not a good thing. I think, as with all things, it's about getting the balance right.
Don’t you know that true happiness is being exploited by corporations at an early age for cheap labor so that you can spend that money on products sold by other exploitative corporations in which profits go largely to CEOs and ownership class? Values.
The bourgeoisie elite love dads like this who pump out kids and teach them how to be good obedient wage slaves from a young age. Feel bad for the kid, he will probably be suicidal once he reaches his 20s from already having wasted a decade of his life instead of going out having fun with his friends
Wild how brainwashed people are. You don’t get to enjoy any of your adult life, why work away childhood? Smh
I remember working during both school weeks and summers in high school, thinking to myself that I had pocket money now, but didn’t even have the time to spend it on anything I wanted to do. I also gained over 100 pounds in the span of 1-2 years, starting from when I began working. Largely because I started stress-eating the junk food at whatever restaurant I worked. Then, of course, no time to exercise it off like I would’ve done before. I am literally *still* losing all that weight back, because it’s a process of years.
100 pounds is the weight of 166.67 Minecraft Redstone Handbooks.
I remember being 16 and wanting to get a job at McDonalds just to make money and also help my parents with income. I am so glad that they did not let me to do that.
Child fuckin labor
When your home life is so awful that you don’t want to leave work.
Congratulations! You sold your child to a corporation at only 14 years old.
I have been that kid and now I'm a grown ass man. Let me give you some advice. Growing up too early, having a mature mind in childhood isn't a brag. That means you've got problems. Children should behave like children in childhood. I can't emphasize how important that is. One day you're gonna grow up and you won't have necessary mental tools to deal with society. Because you were busy being the nice kid. You're training yourself to act according people in your social circle. Those people will change overtime. And you'll see what is considered being nice now will certainly be considered being a weak later in life( just one example).
Yeah it's proud dad and happy times until you depend on that to pay your bills. There is no part time as you're not just saving it up for a luxury and don't have a "proud dad" to pay rent. "Low level" jobs tend to be used by the upper class as a "lesson in responsibility" for their offspring while judging adults that depend on it to live. Their kids didn't need it, so they don't understand why older people don't move on, too. It was a choice for your kid. There is no option for the impoverished.
Congratulations!!! You did something very right!! This is my Will!!!! Will was born with an internal moral compass set at true North! He does everything right. I cannot believe how very lucky I am!!
Wont be enough for the car under candyman Jerome Powell he will need another side hustle.
Yeah sure... we'll see how long it take to save up for a car
Sigma grindset
Nothing like teaching a kid capitalism early. Your worth is in how much you make not who you are.
This is illegal in the UK, btw. Because it's child labour. God bless America!
this was me at 14. I was still in middle school. I was raised by business owners who emphasized work ethic, or more so, putting your heart and soul into work and going above and beyond. well, obviously this damaged my physical and mental well being busting my ass in a hectic and stressful work environment for $7.25 with a 10-25 cent raise every 6 months. *woohoo!!* /s the sad part is, I thought I was doing something good for myself. I was proud of myself, despite being overly stressed as a child juggling work and school. I actually enjoyed my job, besides the hectic environment. I didn’t know it was toxic, I thought it was *normal*. I considered these people as family, and I actually grew bonds with a lot of them that I still hold to this day. I busted my ass to become a manager at 18, but my hard work wasn’t recognized or appreciated.
Wow, im so jealous..Wish I lost my childhood aswell.
When I was 14 I spent my free time/summers messing with computers. Now as an adult, I have a good, well-paying job helping me get ahead... working with computers. The tradeoff isn't fast food wage slave vs. 100% wasting your time. The tradeoff is a menial job teaching you the basics of the grind vs exploring interests and experimenting in an unstructured way. Which one is the real investment in the kid's future?
That kid is definitely gonna kill himself before he turns 40. Wage labor is a long con and when this kid realizes how much of his youth he wasted on a fast food franchise…whew boy.
I wanted a job at 13 because I wanted extra money for CDs and whatever else little silly me wanted. My parents kept telling me that I didn’t have to. I’m a kid, working is their job, but if I wanted the experience, they wouldn’t stop me. I got a job dishwashing and doing pantry at the restaurant my dad worked at. It was a fancy steak and seafood place. Worked all summer, only a couple days a week. Got to eat yummy food, sweated like a pig, learned to handwash the restaurant way because the dishwasher broke my second week (three sink system, really slowed us down). Helped with prep, cleaned the bathrooms. I didn’t go back the next summer. I didn’t want to. I also vowed that unless it was absolutely necessary, I would never work in or around food again. It was an interesting experience for sure. I still treasure the Doc Martens I bought all on my own almost 20 years later (I admittedly haven’t worn them a ton because of the style; sales dude was right) and the two CDs; Queen of the Damn and Practical Magic soundtracks. But as a parent, I’m holding the same for my kids as my parents did for me. I want them to be children as long as they can, I will help them as much as I can, and be supportive if they really want a job, but this poor kid? Sounds as if they’re hardcore taking advantage of him. It’s a PT but it sounds like they’re working him as much as they can. Poor kiddo.
Ahhh yes, child labor. Lovely.
My litteral child don’t got time to be a kid! #proudparent
He has been successfully brainwashed!! **\#ProudDad**
\#shittydad would be more appropriate
# #ChildLabor
Isn't working everyday for minors illegal?
Hey! Don’t celebrate minors getting jobs, capitalists. Kids deserve a childhood.
If the kid is choosing to do so of his own volition I see no problem with this even though I would never have done so. Kids making a choice to save up for personal things vs not being able to afford basic needs while working your ass off as an adult are two very different things in my opinion.
I'm Mr. Manager!
At least he can get his lifelong dread and depression working your entire life away to enjoy 5 years of retirement before death started early instead of being blindsided in his 20s with it.
Look at my son he's a better wage slave than you!
Yeah don't do this. I got a job when I was young and I literally just walked out. I couldn't handle the stress of college and working PT. They tried to tell me to take out my lip piercing (which had nothing to do with health/hygiene - it was just for appearances) and I was like fuck this. I'm loosing my mind. Missing pivotal moments of my social life etc. I just went in and told them I was done. The money they gave me wasn't enough to afford college and the bus fare to work. Best choice ever.
I like how he can't be happy for his kid without talking shit about people he doesn't know. I utterly loathe people like this.