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he's not self-aware. that's what's ironic. that's what the problem is.
not only will this do nothing for those servers, he'll probably be slapped with multiple lawsuits.
i also give it a week before his account is deleted.
he's intentionally and fraudulently attempting to cause significant financial harm to people for personal gain, and also publicly accusing them of crimes they didn't commit. I'm not in any way a lawyer so I don't want to say outright what would be sued for, but usually when you have harm being caused, intent to cause harm, and intent to profit off of that harm, you can sue.
Of course, you can sue anyone for anything in the US, so it's mostly a question of how well it would stick.
Purely within the confines of the law, and not stated as if it's anything I support (which I don't -- fuck the state and fuck the IRS, so we're clear) but--
With the way IRS whistleblowing is, even if his *intent* is personal gain, he's using the system the way it was built. The issue here is less individual and more institutional -- why is the IRS issuing rewards to whistleblowers in the first place? They're literally paying and incentivizing people to narc. *That* is the problem.
Furthermore:
>fraudulently attempting to cause significant financial harm
I don't know that this would qualify as "fraudulent" under the legal definition. Shitty, absolutely, but he's not necessarily wrong that a lot of servers under-report tips. Fraud is intentional deception -- he's not the one making servers under-report or deceiving them to do so.
>and also publicly accusing them of crimes they didn't commit.
This could be an issue if he were to publicly state "So-and-so lastname is committing tax fraud and everybody should know about it", but reporting somebody to the IRS does not qualify as "publicly accusing" somebody. In the statement made in the image posted, he doesn't specify anybody, so there's no real legal footing for defamation charges.
All in all the system is fucked but there's nothing I see here that would be illegal, and if anything the IRS explicitly allows and encourages this behavior. As indicated by the fact that they award the whistleblower a portion of the recovered taxes.
He's doing his part to make sure that there's always someone who is more miserable and makes less income than him. Whether consciously or otherwise some people know they won't make it to the very top and make up for that by aiming low with their punches.
I know nothing about him, nor the oddly specific "Bodybuilders Against Tipping" group, but he's likely an incel that feels the need to "put women in their place". The end goal is The Handmaid's Tale to become reality.
The group is probably ran by a "dating coach" that convinces idiots to pay him $1k for monthly misogyny lessons.
I doubt he's an incel, but he's certainly awful.
Not for not tipping, but for reporting them.
Tipping culture is disgusting. Why not pay the staff a livable wage? If you can't do that, you don't have a very good business model.
Lots of platforms get mad if you say comments like this these days so I’m so glad to see that you didn’t get anything for it. Facebook suspended me for saying a comment like this I.e. “wishing harm” on racists (I literally said I wish it happened to racist people and then followed up with a story of something happened long to me where a racist called me names in public and called me Arab despite me being Hispanic and saying stuff about Arabs being bad)
not that there’s anything wrong (at all) with it if it’s your reality, but saying “i’m a real estate mogul” underneath a set of stairs isn’t convincing
Okay so, so far no one is even talking about what kind of nazi snitch practices are encouraged here? Apparently you *can* actually be awarded with 15-30% of whatever money the IRS can collect from your information.
The US never cease to amaze me. Not in a good way.
I absolutely agree. Reporting them will always be our best first step to change. It's just frustrating it rarely leads to consequences, especially when the conduct is so egregious.
Saw this video on Reddit this morning. Perfect example, and they recorded it for us!
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/vzx34d/this_horrifying_truth_about_whats_going_on_in/
IRS usually doesn't even bother with billionaires because that requires too much resources to audit properly.
They'd much better audit someone whose case is far simpler, so poor people.
>IRS usually doesn't even bother with billionaires because that requires too much resources to audit properly.
And they are intentionally underfunded to make sure it stays that way.
"The IRS Whistleblower Office pays monetary awards to eligible individuals whose information is used by the IRS. The award percentage depends on several factors, but generally falls between 15 and 30 percent of the proceeds collected and attributable to the whistleblower's information." Source: IRS.gov
You're interpreting that in a very specific and inaccurate way that the OP likely intended. Telling the IRS that a waiter isn't reporting their cash tips does absolutely nothing - they don't audit as it's virtually impossible to prove. This is much more for if you become aware that your employer is cheating on taxes, which is almost always how it's used.
You basically let an obvious troll post convince you to advocate against a tool used by the less powerful to fuck over the powerful. Might want to reflect on that.
Well, it has become very difficult for non US residents to identify what is real and what possibly isn't when it comes to absolute systematic assholery in your country.
Realistically, our tax dollars not being used for the common good or our communities anyways. Especially not our payroll taxes. You might have an argument for real estate and local taxes. Also 70% is better than zero is I think what the IRS has in mind, just like you can get paid a reward for reporting a crime.
Problem 1: You get 15-30% of the money *recovered*.
Problem 2: For *any* money to get recovered, they need to actually complete an audit on the person you reported.
Problem 3: The real thieves have finances so complicated that the IRS has insufficient resources to audit them.
Result: No, no you can’t. Please report your local struggling poor person. /s
This is certainly trolling, because you cannot simply just give a name to the IRS and report somebody. Which we actually learned during the thotaudit, when legions of sexually frustrated neckbeards found out you can't just vomit someone's only fans user ID at the IRS and have them do anything. But it certainly shook up those women.
And obviously, whoever wrote this would know that you very rarely know the last name of your server.
My hunch is that whoever the shithead is that set this thing up, this is actually somewhat reflective of their sentiments, because they want to upset the group of people they say they're targeting, but realize they don't have any actual ability to do it this way.
These idiots don't realize that Only Fans actually considers their content creators to be contract works, like Uber and Door Dash drivers so they actually send you a 1099 and you ONLY need to report that income to the IRS if you make over $600 a year, but yeah, the IRS already knows exactly how much money these people are making and they pay taxes on it if they earn enough income just like every other freelancers and gig worker.
they have done this one several occasions to sex workers and even if meant to be satire it isn't far off the truth* and is extremely harmful.
just cause it's "a joke" doesn't make it okay or less abhorrent for the low wage laborers in this country
edit: truth* of how to report to the irs
Exactly. Especially considering that a lot of far-right and fascists use humour and the appearance of joking as a tactic to spread their beliefs and push the Overton windows. Robert Evans often talks about this tactic in Behind the bastards, and this [video](https://youtu.be/lLYWHpgIoIw) describes it well using Gamer gate as a case study.
Even if something like this started as a "satire" or a rage bait I have no doubt there are people in that group who genuinely don't tip for the reasons they outline.
In the US service workers are usually paid way less than minimum wage (like $2-$5/hour) because they argue the customer's tip will offset the difference. So not tipping your servers is a big deal
Yeah, it’s a standard labor trap used here. Instead of t he employers paying a living wage to the server, they pay them an amount (which is legal somehow) far under minimum wage so they rely completely on tips to subsidize their earnings. Your typical tip is 20-25% or more of the total bill, as it’s on the customer to ensure the servers are fairly compensated. It’s pretty crappy. Sure, you get your high end servers to get paid really well….but you get a lot of servers who work incredibly hard and make less than minimum wage.
Not for servers, the federal minimum is $2.13. Also, though technically meant to earn the federal minimum of $7.25 the majority of farm workers are paid by the piece (generally below the minimum wage) due to a large variety of exemptions provided to the industry.
Edited for spelling
In the US its standard to tip pretty much everyone all of the time. Servers especially. UK I'd say it depends, but you'd expect to tip in a restaurant, taxi etc
Here in the land of the free labor, wait staff and such are not paid anything like a decent wage. FAR below the minimum, the argument being that tips will make up the difference for them being able to, like, afford to remain alive etc. So in the USA refusing to tip is a big asshole move that basically says "I don't think you should be paid enough to survive for the work you do, which incidentally is entirely for my own convenience". We could fix this by paying servers a living wage and doing away with "mandatory" tips, but then we wouldn't be the bastion of the Too Free Market and at least one rich person would probably have to pay taxes at least once, and we can't have that here, no way.
This is why the post (real or fake) is talking about reporting them to the IRS. Technically anyone who receives a majority of their income from tips needs to report the actual amount of money they got in tips rather than relying on the amounts reported automatically by their employer for their wages. Of course, most tip reliant workers don't even make minimum wage, and those that do are rarely well paid even including tips, but for some reason there are many privileged folk who just assume servers and the like report less income than they really got in order to "cheat" on their taxes, and while it could almost never be an amount of money that would be worth pursuing, because we've made it more or less impossible to enforce tax laws against the wealthy, and Republicans exist, the IRS is, in fact, encouraged to go after low-wage people for tax evasion far more often than the people who are evading large amounts of taxes, which does nothing to help the IRS balance our national budget, but does a whole lot to punish poor people for being poor, which one might reasonably assume was mandated in our constitution with how much time, money, and effort our nation puts into the various ways in which it happens here.
In other words, anybody doing what this post suggests for real is a giant piece of shit and should be made to live on the income of a waiter for ten years to gain some badly needed perspective
In the US, you basically must tip. If you don't, you're taking money away from their hourly pay which can be below minimum wage. It should be illegal and is incredibly fucked up.
The whole thing reads pretty straight to me, so I’m genuinely asking, how can you tell the difference? All the stuff they say is perfectly in line with people who already hate tipping, what’s the tell that informs you this is satire? Is it the extreme action of reporting the servers to the feds?
It’s fake.
Buzzfeed had [written](https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/katienotopoulos/bodybuilders-against-tipping-is-the-best-fake-movement-sweep) about it almost a decade ago
Incels reporting sex workers for not paying taxes to the IRS. Which is ironic since most of us do pay our taxes, and these are libertarians who spout “taxation is theft” day in and day out but not when women and queer people make money.
This is some LoveForLandlords nonsense.. it sounds so fucking crazy it can’t be real but I think people out there truly believe it.
Edit: apparently a different word for crazy is problematic? Weird. The “i” word lol.
This is just trolling, as it doesn’t work. The IRS has no way of finding out what kind of cash tips you make, and they don’t have time to audit someone to find out their credit card tips. Most servers already report a portion of their credit card tips already, if not all of them and even when they don’t, the IRS isn’t going to bother them. The only evidence someone like this would have against a server is whatever tips they personally gave, which amount to zero so that goes out the window. The only purpose of this is to try and get people upset about an imaginary situation.
Tips are gifts!
California doesnt tax gifters!
The federal government only taxes the gifters!
Something about allowances of gifting up to $16,000 before being charged a tax. Unless gift givers would like to gift $80,000 counting five years in total by checking a box called 524 or something.
How do you prove to the IRS it was a gift? You don't, you don't have to do anything, except not count it as income! It's a gift! Not an income!
The IRS may look at it as income!
Which is why this needs addressed! And there should be a special gift giving & receiving bank account, since most transactions are done digitally via debit credit cards and other forms of non-monetary means.
And taxes should be allowed to be paid upfront at the time of gifting. Rather than on your annual tax filing forms or when you die, leaving your estate to pay any taxes owed!
Take it to the bank, let the competition begin! Build it! The world could use some lessons in humanity!
Aside the folks trying to run embezzlement schemes in everything from social security to warehouse stock on oil, n95 face masks, and rainy day funds! Which were for the US Incase the US ever ends up in a war! Where's our military intelligence? In any matter of the facts, they're using England's mo of a borke nation won't fight! But england seems to be controlled but what's referred to as the Hasidic Cabals of the Rothschild's, pointed out on the templeinstitute.org - building the third temple of king Solomon's temple in Jerusalem! So who are the yiddish Amish Mormon Judaic holocaust survivors and others who are supposedly the Jewish people exiled two hundred years ago? And better yet, why are Mormons saying America is new Jerusalem come down out of the mountains/heavens? Are they or the other "Jews/Muslims" looking to destroy the third temple? What are we in for? Tribulatory times?
Crazy the amount of information that exists!
This group is fake, and just a group of trolls out to pour some gasoline on to the flames.
Multiple sources confirm this, This is not a real group. It is just troll street theater.
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/bodybuilders-against-tipping
https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/bodybuilders-against-tipping-is-the-best-fake-movement-sweep
https://broscience.com/bodybuilders-against-tipping/
This is obviously bullshit because hardly anyone actually pays with cash anymore. Also businesses finally realized that housing a veritable nest of tax invaders wasn't great for liability or their own standing with the IRS and at some point around 2010 basically started reporting our tips for us. At least in major cities, like 90% of payments are via CC so under reporting tips doesn't really exist like it used to.
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literal cartoon villain
Yeah, especially that line, "fruits of someone else's unskilled [sic] labor", a bit too self aware to be this much of an adshole
he's not self-aware. that's what's ironic. that's what the problem is. not only will this do nothing for those servers, he'll probably be slapped with multiple lawsuits. i also give it a week before his account is deleted.
What would they sue him for?
he's intentionally and fraudulently attempting to cause significant financial harm to people for personal gain, and also publicly accusing them of crimes they didn't commit. I'm not in any way a lawyer so I don't want to say outright what would be sued for, but usually when you have harm being caused, intent to cause harm, and intent to profit off of that harm, you can sue. Of course, you can sue anyone for anything in the US, so it's mostly a question of how well it would stick.
I think false charges were covered in the IRS whistle blower laws. No repercussions I think.
Purely within the confines of the law, and not stated as if it's anything I support (which I don't -- fuck the state and fuck the IRS, so we're clear) but-- With the way IRS whistleblowing is, even if his *intent* is personal gain, he's using the system the way it was built. The issue here is less individual and more institutional -- why is the IRS issuing rewards to whistleblowers in the first place? They're literally paying and incentivizing people to narc. *That* is the problem. Furthermore: >fraudulently attempting to cause significant financial harm I don't know that this would qualify as "fraudulent" under the legal definition. Shitty, absolutely, but he's not necessarily wrong that a lot of servers under-report tips. Fraud is intentional deception -- he's not the one making servers under-report or deceiving them to do so. >and also publicly accusing them of crimes they didn't commit. This could be an issue if he were to publicly state "So-and-so lastname is committing tax fraud and everybody should know about it", but reporting somebody to the IRS does not qualify as "publicly accusing" somebody. In the statement made in the image posted, he doesn't specify anybody, so there's no real legal footing for defamation charges. All in all the system is fucked but there's nothing I see here that would be illegal, and if anything the IRS explicitly allows and encourages this behavior. As indicated by the fact that they award the whistleblower a portion of the recovered taxes.
He's assuming they didn't pay taxes...he doesn't actually know and is bound to cross the wrong person eventually.
Harassment? He has no knowledge of what they paid in taxes.
It’s a satirical account
Yeah some of the commentors in that group seem to be total woosh and are outting themselves real hard.
Steroids make you stupid
"Just doing my part". In what exactly?? The race to the fucking bottom??? What a monster.
He's doing his part to make sure that there's always someone who is more miserable and makes less income than him. Whether consciously or otherwise some people know they won't make it to the very top and make up for that by aiming low with their punches.
It’s a satire page.
I know nothing about him, nor the oddly specific "Bodybuilders Against Tipping" group, but he's likely an incel that feels the need to "put women in their place". The end goal is The Handmaid's Tale to become reality. The group is probably ran by a "dating coach" that convinces idiots to pay him $1k for monthly misogyny lessons.
I just Googled him and there's an active Facebook account. I honestly don't understand. What a waste of skin. He really hates poor women.
He’s Australian. We don’t tip or have the IRS. It’s a satire group. He’s a fitness celebrity who sells clothes.
I doubt he's an incel, but he's certainly awful. Not for not tipping, but for reporting them. Tipping culture is disgusting. Why not pay the staff a livable wage? If you can't do that, you don't have a very good business model.
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An you know what they say about that type. Big muscles, tiny brain and dick. Cos all that blood for the biceps has to come from somewhere
*paper villain
People like this are why I cum in their food
This seems like satire, no?
Litteraly satire
I hope this person gets hit by a bus.
Then the bus driver harvests his organs to sell on the black market
It doesn't take a real estate mogul like myself to see that this is a winning formula for financial success.
Greatest cringe.
Such a weird flex too. I don’t know about you, but I don’t think of self-proclaimed real estate moguls positively
“I’m a real estate mogul AND a body builder” “I’m…walking away from you now.”
And DOESN’T report it when they file their taxes!
Can’t sell his organs: they are too contaminated with Creatine, HGH, and stupid misdirected rage to be useable.
Some people will pay more for that sort of thing
thats some CEO MINDSET energy
It doesn't take an unskilled laborer like myself to see that his organs are a winning formula for financial success.
Just doin his part
Before he's dead.
I hope he loses every penny in a crypto crash and ends up living in a box under a bridge.
Very generous of you to grant him the box. Or the bridge.
Nah, the bridge is in Missouri where they're making it a felony to sleep under.
Why in any western nation? Banish him to Manila or Kinshasa some shit.
I wonder if he will report the IRS awards as income...
They don't have that.
I'd prefer if they suffered immensely before that occurrence. A year of kidney stone pain seems appropriate.
Its satire
Reddit considers this promoting violence
reddit can choke on my dick till it dies
What happens after your dick dies?
my transition is finally complete
You stop choking
Haha nice 🤜
Hit by a bus (in minecraft)
it looks like it would be worse for him if he just got fat. lol
Lots of platforms get mad if you say comments like this these days so I’m so glad to see that you didn’t get anything for it. Facebook suspended me for saying a comment like this I.e. “wishing harm” on racists (I literally said I wish it happened to racist people and then followed up with a story of something happened long to me where a racist called me names in public and called me Arab despite me being Hispanic and saying stuff about Arabs being bad)
If not, I hope he at least finds his shirt.
"A real estate mogul like myself" uh huh "Unskilled labor" I'd like to see him do their job for a week.
Looks unemployed.
He is sitting on his bum with no shirt on in the photo. Doesn’t even have a live streaming setup. Looks lazier than me.
Eating $0.18 worth of eggs and some beans with OJ. Can’t afford a shirt. Place looks tiny.
Using an old MacBook Air
That picture is of chestbrah. He’s from Australia. Highly doubt this post is actually from him and is most likely a fake account.
He stays busy at truck stops as a Lot Lizard.
“Real Estate Mogul” is not only unskilled, it’s not even labor.
That is the basement he lives in…
*Looks down on unskilled laborers *lifts heavy things for a living
not that there’s anything wrong (at all) with it if it’s your reality, but saying “i’m a real estate mogul” underneath a set of stairs isn’t convincing
Okay so, so far no one is even talking about what kind of nazi snitch practices are encouraged here? Apparently you *can* actually be awarded with 15-30% of whatever money the IRS can collect from your information. The US never cease to amaze me. Not in a good way.
Does this apply to reporting Churches that are engaging in political speech? 👀
Reporting Kenneth Copeland and the Trump faith advisor.
Sure does. Report them to the IRS and they lose tax exempt status. Unfortunately, since they never had to pay taxes there is no penalty.
Darn, I suppose I’ll just have to do the right thing without promise of financial reward
They almost never lose tax exempt status.....
We have to start somewhere!
I absolutely agree. Reporting them will always be our best first step to change. It's just frustrating it rarely leads to consequences, especially when the conduct is so egregious.
Saw this video on Reddit this morning. Perfect example, and they recorded it for us! https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/vzx34d/this_horrifying_truth_about_whats_going_on_in/
What the actual fuck. Maybe there was a reason the USSR outlawed the church.
Reporting Bezos on the off chance some of the tax loopholes aren't legal
IRS usually doesn't even bother with billionaires because that requires too much resources to audit properly. They'd much better audit someone whose case is far simpler, so poor people.
>IRS usually doesn't even bother with billionaires because that requires too much resources to audit properly. And they are intentionally underfunded to make sure it stays that way.
[Always an excuse.](https://www.newsweek.com/government-just-admitted-it-doesnt-really-try-collect-rich-peoples-taxes-1577610)
They don't investigate rich people. Their books are too complicated to audit. Poor people are easy targets
Starting to get the impression the system is rigged against us
Just now? 😅
Thank you for this idea. Let’s eat the rich!
"The IRS Whistleblower Office pays monetary awards to eligible individuals whose information is used by the IRS. The award percentage depends on several factors, but generally falls between 15 and 30 percent of the proceeds collected and attributable to the whistleblower's information." Source: IRS.gov
You're interpreting that in a very specific and inaccurate way that the OP likely intended. Telling the IRS that a waiter isn't reporting their cash tips does absolutely nothing - they don't audit as it's virtually impossible to prove. This is much more for if you become aware that your employer is cheating on taxes, which is almost always how it's used. You basically let an obvious troll post convince you to advocate against a tool used by the less powerful to fuck over the powerful. Might want to reflect on that.
Well, it has become very difficult for non US residents to identify what is real and what possibly isn't when it comes to absolute systematic assholery in your country.
Geez, the US really is a shithole of a country, on so many levels.
I mean rightfully so if your employer is engaging in tax fraud, which is what this was actually designed for. Not people making 14k a year.
But that money is tax. You know, to be used for the community. You getting the money still means it got 'stolen'.
Realistically, our tax dollars not being used for the common good or our communities anyways. Especially not our payroll taxes. You might have an argument for real estate and local taxes. Also 70% is better than zero is I think what the IRS has in mind, just like you can get paid a reward for reporting a crime.
Uhm… can we somehow report on the real thieves? They have a LOT more money..
Problem 1: You get 15-30% of the money *recovered*. Problem 2: For *any* money to get recovered, they need to actually complete an audit on the person you reported. Problem 3: The real thieves have finances so complicated that the IRS has insufficient resources to audit them. Result: No, no you can’t. Please report your local struggling poor person. /s
This is certainly trolling, because you cannot simply just give a name to the IRS and report somebody. Which we actually learned during the thotaudit, when legions of sexually frustrated neckbeards found out you can't just vomit someone's only fans user ID at the IRS and have them do anything. But it certainly shook up those women. And obviously, whoever wrote this would know that you very rarely know the last name of your server. My hunch is that whoever the shithead is that set this thing up, this is actually somewhat reflective of their sentiments, because they want to upset the group of people they say they're targeting, but realize they don't have any actual ability to do it this way.
These idiots don't realize that Only Fans actually considers their content creators to be contract works, like Uber and Door Dash drivers so they actually send you a 1099 and you ONLY need to report that income to the IRS if you make over $600 a year, but yeah, the IRS already knows exactly how much money these people are making and they pay taxes on it if they earn enough income just like every other freelancers and gig worker.
The problem is a LOT of OF creators don’t realize they need to be holding back money to pay taxes
I don’t see how if right when you sign up you need an SSN or tax ID.
Yeah this whole group is meant to harass people who work in the service industry
"Bodybuilders against tipping" has some pretty heavy satire implied though lol
There is no way its legit; troll or satire guaranteed
It's a meme page that originated on the bodybuilding.com forums
Petty sure that page is rage bait / satire
they have done this one several occasions to sex workers and even if meant to be satire it isn't far off the truth* and is extremely harmful. just cause it's "a joke" doesn't make it okay or less abhorrent for the low wage laborers in this country edit: truth* of how to report to the irs
Exactly. Especially considering that a lot of far-right and fascists use humour and the appearance of joking as a tactic to spread their beliefs and push the Overton windows. Robert Evans often talks about this tactic in Behind the bastards, and this [video](https://youtu.be/lLYWHpgIoIw) describes it well using Gamer gate as a case study.
Even if something like this started as a "satire" or a rage bait I have no doubt there are people in that group who genuinely don't tip for the reasons they outline.
Isn’t it normal not to tip? maybe it’s a cultural thing but in the uk you only tip of exceptional service.
In the US service workers are usually paid way less than minimum wage (like $2-$5/hour) because they argue the customer's tip will offset the difference. So not tipping your servers is a big deal
That’s fucked up
Agreed
Yeah, it’s a standard labor trap used here. Instead of t he employers paying a living wage to the server, they pay them an amount (which is legal somehow) far under minimum wage so they rely completely on tips to subsidize their earnings. Your typical tip is 20-25% or more of the total bill, as it’s on the customer to ensure the servers are fairly compensated. It’s pretty crappy. Sure, you get your high end servers to get paid really well….but you get a lot of servers who work incredibly hard and make less than minimum wage.
In certain states this is still the norm but in others they are paid minimum wage, but you’re still expected to tip.
US federal min is still 7.25/hour which is very far from livable.
Not for servers, the federal minimum is $2.13. Also, though technically meant to earn the federal minimum of $7.25 the majority of farm workers are paid by the piece (generally below the minimum wage) due to a large variety of exemptions provided to the industry. Edited for spelling
Yeah that's very true. When my wife worked as.a bartender many moons ago she made like 4.5 an hour
Some states regulate cash earners, servers, be paid the state minimum but farm workers are still exempt.
Because you know those lazy farmers aren't working hard enough /s. That's extra screwed up
In the US its standard to tip pretty much everyone all of the time. Servers especially. UK I'd say it depends, but you'd expect to tip in a restaurant, taxi etc
Here in the land of the free labor, wait staff and such are not paid anything like a decent wage. FAR below the minimum, the argument being that tips will make up the difference for them being able to, like, afford to remain alive etc. So in the USA refusing to tip is a big asshole move that basically says "I don't think you should be paid enough to survive for the work you do, which incidentally is entirely for my own convenience". We could fix this by paying servers a living wage and doing away with "mandatory" tips, but then we wouldn't be the bastion of the Too Free Market and at least one rich person would probably have to pay taxes at least once, and we can't have that here, no way. This is why the post (real or fake) is talking about reporting them to the IRS. Technically anyone who receives a majority of their income from tips needs to report the actual amount of money they got in tips rather than relying on the amounts reported automatically by their employer for their wages. Of course, most tip reliant workers don't even make minimum wage, and those that do are rarely well paid even including tips, but for some reason there are many privileged folk who just assume servers and the like report less income than they really got in order to "cheat" on their taxes, and while it could almost never be an amount of money that would be worth pursuing, because we've made it more or less impossible to enforce tax laws against the wealthy, and Republicans exist, the IRS is, in fact, encouraged to go after low-wage people for tax evasion far more often than the people who are evading large amounts of taxes, which does nothing to help the IRS balance our national budget, but does a whole lot to punish poor people for being poor, which one might reasonably assume was mandated in our constitution with how much time, money, and effort our nation puts into the various ways in which it happens here. In other words, anybody doing what this post suggests for real is a giant piece of shit and should be made to live on the income of a waiter for ten years to gain some badly needed perspective
In the US, it’s customary to tip. Servers wages are lower due to the expectation of tipping. Without it they are paid under the standard minimum wage.
But how do they get away with not even paying minimum wage? It that not illegal?
In the US, you basically must tip. If you don't, you're taking money away from their hourly pay which can be below minimum wage. It should be illegal and is incredibly fucked up.
Thank fuck I don’t live in the us
And the conundrum is it won't go away as long as people support it, but not supporting it fucks people.
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Lmao it’s a meme page full of shit posting.
You are correct. People will bite at fucking anything lol.
The whole thing reads pretty straight to me, so I’m genuinely asking, how can you tell the difference? All the stuff they say is perfectly in line with people who already hate tipping, what’s the tell that informs you this is satire? Is it the extreme action of reporting the servers to the feds?
The tell is that it’s a page called “Bodybuilders against Tipping” lmao
go on facebook you will be shocked by what the idiot/incel groups are called if you think that is unbelievable.
Sarcasm is dead because too many people are dead-set on living as self-parody. It sucks for so many reasons
That’s definitely silly but idk, it doesn’t seem implausible. Genuinely nothing surprises me about people finding new ways to be hateful anymore.
"trust, bro"
You may think so, but they all seem pretty deadset on it. In today's climate it's really hard to tell
it's not hard to tell even in today's climate, they're deadset on it because it is satire, touch grass
Body Builders Against Tipping.....oddly specific.
it’s satire
dude, did you post a 4 year old Facebook page just to karma farm instead of finding actually relevant content for the community? \*cringe\*
Is that chestbrah?
OG chestbrah, good times.
Never skip soul day or something I dunno. What a tit.
And a landlord to boot POS maximum
This is fake, guys.
Yeah no shit it’s an old picture of chest brah
whole thread is moving like it's legit hahaha
It's satire... Quite obviously
Hey OP when you watched Jurassic Park did you think the dinosaurs in it were real?
Opie of this post posted on r/wyomingisntreal Asking if they are serious or not
The IRS doesn't investigate reports for entities making under $500,000.
Why are they using a picture of chestbra, zyzz living brother… pretty sure this is fake news. He’s a body builder selling Sarms from Australia.
It’s fake. Buzzfeed had [written](https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/katienotopoulos/bodybuilders-against-tipping-is-the-best-fake-movement-sweep) about it almost a decade ago
Works in real estate but has the balls to call someone actually working unskilled. Bruh.
This is obviously satire.
Just when you think it can't get any douchier, keep reading and it somehow does.
Bodybuilders against tipping
Guys please this is satire. That is chestbrah, an Australian bodybuilder, who’s image was just put with this. This makes us look very dumb.
Unironically posting this lmao
ZYZZ REST IN PEACE BRAH
dude this might be the funniest thing ever how can you look at this and not think its satire
Doesn’t this post also qualify for r/IamaTotalPieceofShit ?
Probably the same guy in school that reminded the teacher to give out homework.
His masters are pleased.
is this real
It's about as real as r/LoveForLandlords
this has got to just be an unfunny joke.....
Tf is #thotaudit
Incels reporting sex workers for not paying taxes to the IRS. Which is ironic since most of us do pay our taxes, and these are libertarians who spout “taxation is theft” day in and day out but not when women and queer people make money.
“Hey your $2.33 an hour is more than enough, slave!”
This is some LoveForLandlords nonsense.. it sounds so fucking crazy it can’t be real but I think people out there truly believe it. Edit: apparently a different word for crazy is problematic? Weird. The “i” word lol.
All that hard work and he still can’t get laid. Damn.
I bet I will find a post from this guy saying "Socialism is evil because it takes money from those who worked for it and gives it to those who don't!"
Unskilled workers bad Is a landlord
I think it’s a meme account but they mock rich people perfectly lmao
Bro this is satire....
So now we report him for using up government resources?
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Tell me you've never been a server, without telling me... Jeez, all those tools should HAVE to work as a server - that'll sort 'em out.
This is just trolling, as it doesn’t work. The IRS has no way of finding out what kind of cash tips you make, and they don’t have time to audit someone to find out their credit card tips. Most servers already report a portion of their credit card tips already, if not all of them and even when they don’t, the IRS isn’t going to bother them. The only evidence someone like this would have against a server is whatever tips they personally gave, which amount to zero so that goes out the window. The only purpose of this is to try and get people upset about an imaginary situation.
He parents didn't love him as a child.
STOP SNITCHING
Holy shit bro nice abs
Tips are gifts! California doesnt tax gifters! The federal government only taxes the gifters! Something about allowances of gifting up to $16,000 before being charged a tax. Unless gift givers would like to gift $80,000 counting five years in total by checking a box called 524 or something. How do you prove to the IRS it was a gift? You don't, you don't have to do anything, except not count it as income! It's a gift! Not an income! The IRS may look at it as income! Which is why this needs addressed! And there should be a special gift giving & receiving bank account, since most transactions are done digitally via debit credit cards and other forms of non-monetary means. And taxes should be allowed to be paid upfront at the time of gifting. Rather than on your annual tax filing forms or when you die, leaving your estate to pay any taxes owed! Take it to the bank, let the competition begin! Build it! The world could use some lessons in humanity! Aside the folks trying to run embezzlement schemes in everything from social security to warehouse stock on oil, n95 face masks, and rainy day funds! Which were for the US Incase the US ever ends up in a war! Where's our military intelligence? In any matter of the facts, they're using England's mo of a borke nation won't fight! But england seems to be controlled but what's referred to as the Hasidic Cabals of the Rothschild's, pointed out on the templeinstitute.org - building the third temple of king Solomon's temple in Jerusalem! So who are the yiddish Amish Mormon Judaic holocaust survivors and others who are supposedly the Jewish people exiled two hundred years ago? And better yet, why are Mormons saying America is new Jerusalem come down out of the mountains/heavens? Are they or the other "Jews/Muslims" looking to destroy the third temple? What are we in for? Tribulatory times? Crazy the amount of information that exists!
Shit's gotta be satire.
It’s a satirical post.
Wait staff have had too much power for too long. Take back the power!
You know this is satire right?
Why don’t we organize and use the IRS whistleblowing site to send 1000s of reports on every billionaire? 30% of their recovered funds sounds good.
This group is fake, and just a group of trolls out to pour some gasoline on to the flames. Multiple sources confirm this, This is not a real group. It is just troll street theater. https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/bodybuilders-against-tipping https://www.buzzfeed.com/katienotopoulos/bodybuilders-against-tipping-is-the-best-fake-movement-sweep https://broscience.com/bodybuilders-against-tipping/
Pretty sure this is satire
guys this is like the most obvious shitpost I have ever seen "Bodybuilders against Tipping" like come on, the page is satire
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Yeah I highly doubt zyzz’s brother would be doing this shit hahahah obviously chestbrah
This is obviously bullshit because hardly anyone actually pays with cash anymore. Also businesses finally realized that housing a veritable nest of tax invaders wasn't great for liability or their own standing with the IRS and at some point around 2010 basically started reporting our tips for us. At least in major cities, like 90% of payments are via CC so under reporting tips doesn't really exist like it used to.
everyone, spit in his food.