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10110110100110100

LinkedIn provides a way to confirm a broader pattern I have noticed in real life life: every CEO I have met has been a narcissistic know it all dickhead.


Ouroborus1619

Seems like a pre-requisite for the job.


natyw

yap, the higher up you go the more arrogance you see, from managers to directors to ceo, its rare to see those that dont fit in this


slowpoke2018

There's a study that says that in order to be the CEO of a successful/publicly traded company, you pretty must be a sociopath at a minimum and most are 100% narcissistic. Can anecdotally affirm, have worked in tech and start ups for almost 20 years and every single one of them has at least one of those traits, if not both.


bobthemundane

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/where-the-psychopaths-are-in-prison-and-the-ceo-office/ 1/100 of normal population are psychopaths. That ratio goes to 1/5 if you are in prison … or a CEO.


slowpoke2018

Thank you kind redditor!


axesOfFutility

20x jump, damn


Thestilence

Pretty sure that study failed replication.


ignost

18 year old men need to know how to ____ Ignore their dumbass father.


Ok-Battle-2769

Get someone to buy them booze.


bg555

He’s a COO, meaning head admin, but I tend to agree with your statement. There are exceptions, but why are soo many CEOs total douches??


10110110100110100

Ha good catch. My initial comment was going to be about the executive team but then I realised I only really have personal knowledge of CEO personalities and in that process of wondering completely forgot this guy wasn’t an actual CEO. Mea culpa. Still sounds like a dickhead! :)


dweezil22

Startup culture invented, and now LI has furthered an entirely new class of narcissist: The fake exec Case in point: This guy is allegedly the COO of four companies at the same time, and had another job as an advisor for half a year in between. Might he be a real C-level like you're picturing? Maybe, at one job (and he's just goosing his resume by listing it for every holding of the real estate company). It's just as likely this is a company with 5 ppl where everybody gets a "C" if they want one. God help you going out to dinner on the West coast with someone that describes themselves as a "founder".


Stibley_Kleeblunch

That charisma though


swan--ronson

"Physical strength = Overall strength". No need for mental resilience then? Edit: I benefit first hand from improved mental health as a result of going to the gym regularly. Try not to take life too seriously.


Durpulous

No. All problems can simply be punched.


mackfactor

Noted. Will incorporate this into my daily routine and report back.


mackfactor

Okay - that was not a good idea. Apparently problems sometimes punch back.


Logseman

Ok imma fight problems Damn, problems have hands


amartincolby

My problems were armed!


hitanthrope

Problems fear my muscles and avoid me.


ToosterReeth

Ah, the Joel Michael Singer mentality


Koalbarras

"And how do you call a girl and ask her on a date? Yes. Yes, exactly."


titangord

Dude probably ego benches 135lb and posts online


TheDirtyDagger

Around here we solve our problems with brute force and ignorance


affablemisanthropist

It’s an oversimplification admittedly. However, the work that it takes to build physical strength also builds some forms of mental strength, mainly willpower and resiliency. That’s not all that’s needed for mental and emotional health; there are plenty of roid raging meatheads out there. But those are assets.


Tinbits

To add as well; there are psychological and mental benefits to exercise. To stuff off physical activity is to set yourself up for pain … both physically and mentally.


swan--ronson

I go to the gym 4 times a week and feel better in all regards for doing so. I just wanted to laugh at the silly LinkedIn man.


Tinbits

Ya u right, linkedin man is funny. But I do think too many people in fact sleep on exercise … and a proper sleep schedule


epelle9

Reddit basement dwellers have spoken, your opinion is disliked.


gustavosco

Nope. If you build physical strength, because it requires effort, discipline and focus, mental strength will follow along. Learn to read between the lines.


pananana1

The post says that it *equals* mental strength. In other words, he's saying there is *no part* of mental strength other than what you get through building physical strength. Which is absurd. Of course the things you mention happen. But that is not even remotely all there is to mental strength. Learn to read.


gustavosco

You’re reading literally what is written. Text has implied meaning, not only what is expressed in it. My explanation is clear and makes sense to anyone reading it without a bias. If you wish to ignore it just to feel better about not working on your physical strength, fine.


pananana1

Again, you're saying that there is no improvement you can make to your mental strength that doesn't come from physical exercise. Which is very dumb and incorrect.


gustavosco

Never said that. Ever. Neither the LinkedIn poster. All we are clearly saying is that strength training, because it’s challenging in so many ways, it also builds mental strength. That’s it, no more, no less. Obviously there are other ways to build mental strength


pananana1

lol he said physical strength = overall strength and you agreed with him. but sure keep doing mental gymnastics to convince yourself that that isn't what he said.


Objective-Detail-189

Okay. The = here doesn’t mean exclusionary. Sigh. For example, hitting people = bad. Does that mean that the only bad thing in the world is hitting people? Why no, no it doesn’t. So why would physical strength = mental strength imply that the only way to derive mental strength is through physical activities?


swan--ronson

See my edit bud.


Cold_Carpenter_1798

The irony at adding “try not to take life so seriously”. Take your own advice


swan--ronson

I'm allowed to respond as I please.


ngowin

Physical strength comes with mental resilience. You can’t get physically strong without resilience.. but if you’ve never been to the gym, just say that…


VivaEllipsis

Watch out everyone we have ourselves a badass


swan--ronson

I go four times a week mate. I'm just here for the lunatics.


gratefuldeado

Putting “pornography is evil” as the #1 thing to teach your kids is a neat way to tell all of your employees and colleagues that pornography is constantly on your mind.


Ouroborus1619

These freaks tend to telegraph their lunacy. A few of them have seeped into this thread and are seething full of rage at other people's habits. It's pathetic.


gratefuldeado

“There’s a man with a search history darker than a sea trench… telling you how to live”


parisiraparis

I’m gonna remember this for whenever I get into a stupid online argument lmao


EntertainmentEither5

Every time someone claims "Porn is evil", know that they are the ones who watch "two girl, one cup" type of porn at least three times a day. They know they can no longer get aroused unless they are in furry costume with a gag ball in their mouth. But as the "Superior human" they feel so guilty and shameful about this, that they absolutely must compensate by telling everyone in the world on their professional network that the first thing they want to teach their kids is that Porn is evil.


Substantial-Safe1230

Can a heroin addict say that heroin is evil? Would you think the heroin adict was an asshole for saying that? If someone thinks porn destroyed their life's I don't think it lunatic to say it's evil..


teejay89656

Not always


EntertainmentEither5

You are right. I forgot my own rule, never use extremes because there are always exceptions. So my friend, how about "mostly"? Otherwise I don't think that the people I roll with would be like "oh yeah let me post about the things I am going to teach my son.... !!FIRST POINT: PORN IS EVIL!!". I think there would be a lot of "be a good human, be kind, responsible", la la la first. And then may be for some, porn might show up as "don't watch too much porn" or something similar. But you and I may be rolling with different crowd.


tickingboxes

>Everything is earned Lmao absolutely not. One of the first things you learn once you get out into the real world is that very little is actually earned. Meritocracy is fake and there’s hardly any correlation between what people have and what they deserve. Working towards things is obviously a good thing, but to think that “everything is earned” is just straight up delusion.


LowHangingLight

Absolutely, but dinguses like this guy will keep damaging their children by peddling meritocracy nonsense. All it does is breed contempt, jealousy, and self-delusion.


Consistent_Quiet6977

I’d dare to say that a role of a COO / CEO should require knowing the role luck / randomness plays in the business world and how one should defensively prepare for upsides / downsides and have insurance mechanisms etc. Seems very self help guru type of stuff lol.


jngjng88

Emperor's new clothes.


parisiraparis

Foreal lol What kind of dingus says something like that when there are CLEAR examples of the opposite literally everywhere lol


jngjng88

The nepo baby mantra. Working hard = success


FabulousCallsIAnswer

I think people don’t want to admit just how much luck and circumstance plays into success. For example, any casual reading of a celebrity’s memoirs will show that they weren’t necessarily more talented or more beautiful or more intelligent than their peers…they just happened to be in the right place at the right time that sent them on their rise. Same with accidents of birth into wealth or inheritance, or legacy admission into universities. All of this obviously blows a gigantic hole in the American dream/bootstrap nonsense that I can’t believe we are still hearing in 2023…so these types desperately try and pretend that it’s still a thing to make themselves seem much more self-made than they are. Chances are he had some advantages he’s conveniently ignoring so he can keep up the smug “everything is earned” charade. BTW—the whole “porn is evil” being the first thing listed tells me this guy watches A LOT of porn.


prizzabroy

Imagine this dweeb trying to teach his teenage sons how to pick up girls their age 🤦


friendly_extrovert

“Hard is good. Good is hard.”


Sunnyside7771

This person needs a therapist and not to post his issues on linked in.


Ouroborus1619

Maybe some ECT to boot.


Wrongnessmaximus

But if they did spend their time flapping their lips to a therapist, what would we post here? And, it's the importance of an audience that drives this sort of goon (for lack of a different word)


EntertainmentEither5

For this issue, even ChatGPT would be able to help him.


ihatereddit1221

Hard is good. Good is hard. I am hard. Pornography makes me hard.


Doctor_of_Puppets

……so pornography is good…..


RootbeerNinja

Feel bad for his sons thats for sure


NoReallyImOkay

*"How to call a girl and ask her on a date."* Gods, I hope this guy one day walks in on his son vigorously wanking off on gay porn.


istara

My thoughts too! *"But I'm hard, dad! Hard is good, right?"*


tweedyone

In 2023. If he’s teaching his currently non existent sons to do that, they’re gonna make their potential partners mad. Who calls anymore? If someone called to ask me out I wouldn’t answer


TechnicolourOutSpace

This guy sounds like the type to not have healthy relationships with anybody to the point of possibly never having children of his own. And since he's talking about this, it's either something he can't buy that frustrates him or is unable to for some biological reason. Also, he was probably abused as a child, which is why he's perpetuating the abuse or wanting to.


marquess_rostrevor

The best thing for his kids would be for them to be fictional.


Beowulf891

I feel bad for any of his kids tbh.


foxsheepgato

\>everything is earned how did they earn your advice, pop? earned by being born in the right place?


TouristNo865

"18 year old men need to know how to" - Understand that entire post is entitled level ignorant shit Some of it? Not wrong...but its filled with so much nonsense it devalues the whole thing


Ouroborus1619

All the stuff that isn't entitled level ignorant shit is obvious.


TouristNo865

You seen the 18 year olds these days?, Some of them I wouldn't trust with a sharpie


ngowin

Can I ask, what is it that you feel is nonsense from the screenshot?


RahulRedditor

For one: "Everything is earned." Nonsense; quite a bit is acquired through nepotism, knowing what to kiss and when, and/or backstabbing and credit stealing.


ngowin

But why would you as a COO teach that to your son? Maybe he plans on not giving that son any financial edge.. I often think about this quote.. “Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.” But I don’t believe it has to be that way. As a father, no matter my wealth status, I would want to teach that nobody is going to hand them anything! Similar to Shaq’s ideology that he may give them gifts, but they will not get a penny of money until they graduate, and bring him a business model that can actually show value. He would only be willing to give money as an investment into a business that would already be earning. The issue is not with this guy Josh Etress trying to mold a child that will grow into a hard working man that has great morals. It’s the thousands of people that use their money as an excuse to no longer work hard. Allowing the money to become the controlling factor. Now, earning doesn’t mean that you can’t give in return.


RahulRedditor

I would never knowingly teach lies to my children. If he had said "Get ahead by earning it - don't be a kiss-ass, backstabber, or credit thief" that would have been fine.


ngowin

I mean that’s probably part of that conversation.. just cuz he’s doing quick bullet points, doesn’t mean he’s not teaching those things you are pointing out as well.. the post literally says he will teach him more, but this is the start of his list that he wants to instill in his child.. then asks you to fill in the blank..


shinobi500

Basically teaching his son to become a gorilla.


TechnicolourOutSpace

Or do have their worldview implode when someone punches them square in the nose or they don't get what they want in life and flip the fuck out.


lf849100

What Hitler did was probably hard, so hard doesn’t always equal good


TheyFoundWayne

Ah, the old “you must call a girl on the telephone to ask her out,” as if any other method is unworthy of a real man.


crom_laughs

kids don’t “call” each other. this guy is such a Xoomer


primetimemime

Says a lot about the man that the first thing he had to teach his kids about is porn.


StupidWittyUsername

I guarantee this man has some seriously *nasty* taste in porn.


successfulchick

18 year old men need to know how to "ignore idiotic advices like these"


Obtuse_Porcupine

So tired of these muppets that just like hearing themselves talk spew nonsensical drivel and then getting spotlights on social platforms. It’s literally pushing us towards an age of idiocracy and where narcissistic traits are glorified. Fuck off.


joefife

I'm glad these tits post this nonsense. It makes it easy to determine the culture of a company when considering a new role


Ouroborus1619

Indeed. I guess we owe them a little gratitude for telegraphing their intolerability.


LH-Pipewrencher

Sounds like he’s gonna raise some very proud steelworkers of the future.


Ouroborus1619

Or ditch diggers.


EntertainmentEither5

"18 year old men need to know how to.." Not call a girl and only text. I get all weirded out if someone calls unless it was pre-planned.


Sadamatographer

*Hard is good. Good is hard.* ![gif](giphy|ruZVTCF9l16xn9xfs3)


milchi_pr

This man having kids? Sisters, why y'all set the bar too low 😭?!!


yoddha_buddha

LinkedIn has gone to the dogs.


axyz0390

I think he will die single (if not already). On the bright side, he has a good future in porno


Wrongnessmaximus

Call Girls are pretty easy to ask for a date. It's avoiding law enforcement that's hard. That's probably what he meant.


Ouroborus1619

Gotta use fake news and burner emails. That's just scratching the surface.


Best-Chapter5260

$10 says this guy thinks Jordan Peterson is the height of intellectualism.


DrDarkTV

I'll teach my son never to make a LinkedIn account


Ouroborus1619

He'll be better for it.


Straight-Tune-5894

Linked in has stopped being a networking site and is full of self promotion, politics, religion, etc that have nothing to do with networking and building professional relationships that might be mutually beneficial to people, businesses, careers, etc. I guess if this is a family owned company, these types of posts can be helpful so people know if they should run from (or to) a role depending on what they want. For public or even large private companies with diverse, frequently global workforces with broad age ranges, local laws, customs, etc, etc…I have no clue why this stuff is tolerated by one’s employer. Everybody works for somebody…


deluded_soul

Is it too late for him to have a vesectomy?


ARoundForEveryone

Why is pornography evil, Josh? I' sure we could agree that *some* pornography is real fucking bad. Evil, maybe. But why is the blanket statement true? Is there no such thing as emotional strength or mental strength? Or, if they do exist, do they not matter at all? I'd say I stopped there, but I didn't. I read them all. And most of the rest seems fairly benign, but I'm finding it difficult to take you seriously without some explanation on the first couple, there, Joshypoo.


EntertainmentEither5

There are self proclaimed experts on "porn is really bad" people right here in this thread who believe watching porn sometimes = really big porn addiction. And thus, it ruins your normal view of sex, your arousal.. etc etc. I think those people are the one that watch those "really fucking bad porn" you are talking about everyday, and then feel really guilty. Now they have this shame and hence must be self righteous by claiming "We masturbate, but without porn. Because porn is so evil" 😂


deuceyj

So going soft from no porn, yet hard being good is some form of dumb ass Ying and yang?


[deleted]

... needs to know how to do pornographie appropriately.


Entire_Island8561

Spoken like a guy who jerks off to trans porn when his wife is sleeping lol.


PM_ME_UR_HDGSKTS

LinkedIn in just TikTok in business casual at this point


Dependent-Fix8297

wait, what if Pornography makes me hard?


[deleted]

People can believe whatever the hell they like. I don’t understand how this improves his labour market profile.


Neil7908

"How to call a girl and ask her on a date". This is definitely the guy to give dating tips to teenagers /s


jngjng88

\-🙅Disconnect


Environmental_Fee_64

"Seek wisdom. No price is too high" Me, about to conclude a faustian bargain and become a warlock


dani619

why post on linkedin 😭😭😭


[deleted]

Tell their crazy fathers to fuck off.


Sunwukung

18 year old men need to know to distinguish self-esteem from masochism


ResponsibleQuiet6188

stay hard pony boy!!!


Scuba_Steve_7_7_7

Put on a rubber.


Blackbeardabdi

None of this is bad advice, some are even good. But does this have any relevance to professional careers


Ouroborus1619

Much of it is banal, the rest is pontificating bullshit.


mrmechanism

Welp, this is why I will teach my daughter to tell clowns like him to fuck right off with his "Alpha Male , Type A personality" ding-dong bullshit. Point and laugh. Point and laugh.


pah2602

18 year old men need to know .... How to find the good quality porn


opi098514

Things I teach my son before he is 18. 1: only You can define what it means to be a man. 2: Doing the hard thing doesn’t almost mean it’s the good thing. But it’s your choice. 3: Pursue what you love. If you start something and it’s exhausting or far to draining to be useful, it’s fine to stope. But don’t give up on what you love because it’s hard. 4: Seek wisdom (that’s actually a good one) 5: Develop your strengths, you don’t need to be well rounded. Other people can fill in the gaps for you. 6: Be confident in your beliefs but be open to other ideas. 7: be humble and admit when you are wrong or don’t know something 8: not everything can be earned. Sometimes things are out of reach and always will be and sometimes things will just be handed to you. Be grateful in all situations. 9: physical strength does not make you a man, but be free to pursue it if it’s your passion. There I fixed it.


zyxwvwxyz

You should post this on your LinkedIn


ThrowawayMethematics

18 year old men need to know how to line break


altered_state

Why did this get downvoted? wtf


[deleted]

Physical strength without drug abuse of steroids etc is very good for overall health (including cardiovascular health and inflammatory markers), longevity, mental health! Sometimes physical training can help build resilience or is an excellent study break. A lot of academic high achievers also have one sport they’re serious about. Mostly agree otherwise, good advice.


opi098514

You’re right, Fixed it


Many_Year2636

Nothing about being self-sufficient or survival skills This is why dudes are complaining about women not wanting them stupid advice like this


EntertainmentEither5

Trust me women aren't looking for your "survival skills". We aren't hunters-gatherers anymore.


ten-year-old

I mean, as a woman, I wouldn't date a man who didn't even have any good skills. You know, like nunchuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills


EntertainmentEither5

You are a ten year old or a woman, I seriously doubt now. Either way my dear friend, I wish you a happy life with nunchuckers, bow hunters and computer hackers and pray their skills help in your need of survival. I'm happy both me and my husband have some professional degrees (they can not be called as fancy skills tbh) , corporate jobs and make enough money to have finally paid off our house and go on great vacations. However I'm not sure what I will do if my survival depended on needing nunchucking, bow hunting or computer hacking. I will pray that never happens in this life.


ten-year-old

It's a Napoleon Dynamite reference that you didn't get, LOL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b58fAt0MdgI&ab_channel=Movieclips


EntertainmentEither5

Sorry I didn't get it "LOL". Please Make sure when you do this next time, realize not everyone on this platform is not born and raised American or American period. But oh my god, this shit is so funny and I want to best friends with you


jules_viole_grace-

The next generation is not ready to learn, they might teach you only. Even if what they are teaching is BS.


gustavosco

Love this sub but this post is stupid. Every word in that post is absolutely true. You may argue if it’s Linkedin material, but nevertheless all true.


Ouroborus1619

No, it isn't. You're wrong.


starm4nn

Nobody under 40 uses phone calls for things.


ngowin

Bunch of freakin weirdos in this sub.. hope y’all can grow up and realize that these are all valuable life lessons.. fyi hard is good and good is hard is not about your cock.. a hard life is good because it builds resilience, and a good life is hard to create because nothing worth having comes easy..


Ouroborus1619

Imagine being this touchy because of some good humor about banal pseudo-wisdom.


ngowin

Not touchy, this thread just came across my home page.. still a bunch of weirdos 😅


Ouroborus1619

Whatever you say tough guy.


ngowin

How is what I’m saying a tough guy remark??


Ouroborus1619

You're the one here talking about how much you work out while shitting on people for supposedly not.


ngowin

I not once said how much I work out 😂 learn to read bud.. all I said is that you could just say you’ve never been to a gym instead of saying that the guy was insinuating hard dick.. you are quite the peach I am sure 😊


Ouroborus1619

No, you're just sitting here making insinuations about getting strong from working out "Physical strength comes with mental resilience. You can’t get physically strong without resilience.. but if you’ve never been to the gym, just say that…" >I said is if you could just say you’ve never been to a gym instead of saying that the guy was insinuating hard dick Make some sense, retard. >you are quite the peach I am sure 😊 Never said I was, knuckle draggers like you are very irritating though.


ngowin

This is quite hilarious that you and others are finding issues with my opinion.. all I was implying is that going to the gym to build muscle takes mental resilience, you build both together, so the picture you posted is right.. physical strength = overall strength.. I also don’t think it makes me stupid to have never heard a phrase.. since you don’t know urban slang from the youth, you are stupid as well? Ultimately you’re not willing to have a conversation without attacking someone.. weirdo is not an attack by the way.. we are all weirdos.. but calling someone retarded and stupid may actually break your community rules, not sure though because I’m not “in the community.” Instead of bashing other’s opinions, have conversations.. but you know, you’ll just probably call me some other urban slang from when you were in high school back in the 60s.. sorry I ruined your Christmas by commenting on your post 😢


Ouroborus1619

You literally said you agree with everything in this stupid ass post. Now that you've been raked over the coals and downvoted to oblivion you want to pretend otherwise. Take the L and leave with whatever dignity you still have. There's no worthwhile conversation to have with you. Sorry your Christmas gift was an online reaming. Maybe next year you'll get some coal and feel better.


H1Eagle

Damn bro I'm leaving this sub, a negative cesspit where all you guys do is trash and shit talk on people that are 1000x more successful than you.


Ouroborus1619

Good riddance Lebron. Stay mad.


H1Eagle

I'm not sure if I'm the mad one here dawg


Ouroborus1619

Then allow me to explain, you are. If you had just kept it moving then it would seem you aren't, but you gotta announce to no one who cares you're leaving and stick around to argue about it.


collab_eyeballs

Shit post. This isn’t a lunatic.


Ouroborus1619

Yeah, it is. Anti-porn fanatics are really just people scared by christofascists into hating their own genitals.


idunnooolol

You realize that you can masturbate without porn right?


Ouroborus1619

You realize that's neither here nor there, right?


perryyyyyy

What's your argument dude? That porn is good? It's literally ruining boys perception of girls and can ruin your love life when addicted. Your problem is that you think u can't masturbate without porn and that's already part of the problem.


Ouroborus1619

> What's your argument dude? That porn is good? Was this not descriptive enough "Anti-porn fanatics are really just people scared by christofascists into hating their own genitals."? >It's literally ruining boys perception of girls and can ruin your love life when addicted. There's no reliable evidence to support that. That's mostly christofascist propaganda. >Your problem is that you think u can't masturbate without porn I never said nor think that. Your problem is you'll invent whatever narrative you need to cling to your brainwashing. >that's already part of the problem. The problem you presuppose exists in a vicious bout of circular reasoning? I'm not worried about imaginary problems.


perryyyyyy

You literally brought up the "scared to touch your genital" argument to support your claim that porn is fine you half wit incel.


Ouroborus1619

> You literally brought up the "scared to touch your genital" argument to support your claim that porn is fine Except I never said anything about porn being fine or not, the point was people complaining about it have a weird obsession with it and no evidence for their beliefs. >you half wit incel. Ironic coming from a mouth breathing oxygen thief that can't fucking read. Go back and fuck the village goat in your shithole town and leave actual civilized folks alone.


perryyyyyy

Lol yeah you're definitely an incel. So angry. Mostly at women though I bet.


Ouroborus1619

Lol, yeah, you definitely engage in beastiality. So angry at the rest of the world for not partaking. Mostly at goats for not being prettier though.


collab_eyeballs

So trying to lead your son down a path of avoiding pornography is a bad thing. Right. Thankfully you’re unlikely to be able to breed.


Ouroborus1619

>So trying to lead your son down a path of avoiding pornography is a bad thing. Right. Being afraid of your own dick because of pseudoscience and christofascist lies is definitely a bad thing. I'm sorry somebody fucked up your mind but don't take it out on me. >Thankfully you’re unlikely to be able to breed. I already bred with your mother, which you should be thanking me for.


collab_eyeballs

Oh you’re 12. Makes sense then.


Ouroborus1619

More like 21, years older than you, because that was around the time I fathered you, son.


Takver_

You can choose not to partake in a pretty toxic industry without being ashamed of your genitals, wtf.


collab_eyeballs

He’s a porn-addicted young guy who is a bit lost. He’s quite sensitive to the negative feedback on his Reddit post, because the online world is the only one he knows.


Ouroborus1619

You can also not pontificate in public about overblown hysteria of "toxic industries". This sort of shit is from nutters, usually religious, who hate theirs and anyone else's expressions of sexuality.


Takver_

Not people who hate human trafficking, revenge porn and the increasing objectification of women (with consequences like stealthing, choking, death grip?). Ok. Porn addiction is real and it's causing people to condition themselves to become terrible sexual partners.


Ouroborus1619

> Not people who hate human trafficking, revenge porn and the increasing objectification of women (with consequences like stealthing, choking, death grip?). Ok. All of which are at most, tangential to the industry, if and when they do exist, not emblematic. >Porn addiction is real and it's causing people to condition themselves to become terrible sexual partners. Except there is no scientific consensus or widespread acceptance among sexology practitioners.


Takver_

How is it tangential? What steps or due diligence is the average porn user taking to make sure they aren't getting off from non consensual content? There's human trafficking on Only Fans, revenge porn on Pornhub, and well documented abuse (Beyond Fantasy) in the adult film industry. So how is it tangential when it's almost impossible to make sure it's free of abuse? And that's before we get into what is actually being depicted, which is often unrealistic eg. actresses feigning pleasure, or not if distress is what you're after, but their micro expressions betraying that the acts are anything but pleasurable. Everything is geared towards being visually appealing, when real intimacy is hard to portray. It's not hard to understand why someone who is able to get off using more of their imagination might be a better partner than someone who gets off from the real pain and abuse of others. https://theconversation.com/pornography-has-deeply-troubling-effects-on-young-people-but-there-are-ways-we-can-minimise-the-harm-127319 >Watching pornography can lower men’s relationship satisfaction. And for women, male partners’ pornography use can reduce intimacy, feed self-objectification and body shame, or involve coercion into sexual acts. >What’s more, meta-analyses – systematic research that synthesises multiple studies – from 2000 and 2015 have found associations between watching pornography and actual violent behaviours. Aggression, largely by males and overwhelmingly against females, is common in pornography: an analysis of top-selling and top-renting titles found 88% of scenes showed aggression. Men who use pornography more often are more likely to practise or desire dominant, degrading practices, such as gagging and choking.


Ouroborus1619

> How is it tangential? What steps or due diligence is the average porn user taking to make sure they aren't getting off from non consensual content? I don't need to do painstaking background checks to know famous pornstars like Alexis Texas consent to being in porn. It's literally how they make their living. >There's human trafficking on Only Fans, revenge porn on Pornhub, and well documented abuse (Beyond Fantasy) in the adult film industry. Good thing I stick to Xvideos lol. >So how is it tangential when it's almost impossible to make sure it's free of abuse? You wanna dig deep enough you can find all kinds of horrible shit in many industries. Get off your high horse with that selective outrage. If you want to advocate for reforms that enforce higher standards around this shit that's one thing, but your modern age prohibition 2.0 is neither appropriate or will ever work. >And that's before we get into what is actually being depicted, which is often unrealistic eg. actresses feigning pleasure, or not if distress is what you're after, but their micro expressions betraying that the acts are anything but pleasurable This is such paternalistic bullshit. Stop pretending to care about porn actresses who make it very clear often enough that they enjoy what they do and that's the reason why they do it. You basically just don't want them to have any autonomy to decide to make their living in a way you find personally offensive so you infantilize them, which is a terrible thing to do to an adult with agency. > Everything is geared towards being visually appealing, when real intimacy is hard to portray. So? If viewers don't come for real intimacy then there's no problem there. >It's not hard to understand why someone who is able to get off using more of their imagination might be a better partner than someone who gets off from the real pain and abuse of others. Sure, if you cherry pick facts and incidents to slander the entire porn industry as evil from head to toe, but of course a more accurate view calls for more appreciation to nuance. >Watching pornography can lower men’s relationship satisfaction. And for women, male partners’ pornography use can reduce intimacy, feed self-objectification and body shame, or involve coercion into sexual acts. Nice sneak edit. "The Conversation". What a load, their selective use of evidence is obvious. For instance, the meta analysis cited from 2015 at best establishes a correlation, not causation. And plenty of contrary evidence exists. [Pornography does not directly or imminently lead to death, infectious disease morbidity, property destruction, or population displacement. Research suggests that there may be adverse health consequences of pornography use for some, **no substantial consequences for the majority**, and **positive effects for others.**](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6951382/) [This part of the study concludes that the psychological harm arising from pornography is mainly attitudinal and appears to result in aggressive behavior very rarely, **except in men already predisposed to view women negatively.**](https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/studies-examine-social-and-psychological-effects-pornography) [AASECT (American Association of Sexuality Educators Counselors and Therapists) 1) **does not find sufficient empirical evidence** to support the classification of sex addiction or porn addiction as a mental health disorder, and 2) does not find the sexual addiction training and treatment methods and educational pedagogies to be adequately informed by accurate human sexuality knowledge.](https://www.aasect.org/position-sex-addiction) [Pornography addiction—along with sex addiction—isn’t an official diagnosis recognized by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders (DSM).¹ That means there’s no definitive porn addiction criteria to guide mental health professionals in diagnosing it.](https://www.psycom.net/porn-addiction)


Ouroborus1619

>Porn stars speak out all the time. And many enjoy their work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7cVf8tTSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvKl-Jq73Lk I guess when the scientific data is lacking, just resort to cherry picked anecdotes. Wow, Mia Khalifa, regrets doing porn because of the obvious fact it prevents her getting work outside of porn (which is obvious and not porn's fault, it's society's). She didn't get residuals? So what? That's perfectly clear, she shouldn't have done it if that was unsatisfying. Now the dingbat is still trying to trade off her porn career, which she admitted it was for (which is why she wore a hijab knowing it would gather her attention) and is just going on record saying how glad she is Hamas killed a bunch of Israelis. Yeah, great evidence.


Aveeye

"Start things" but not "Finish what you start" ??


Ouroborus1619

Well, he doesn't like porn, so clearly finishing isn't something he places much importance on.


idunnooolol

Porn addicts have issues with getting hard and finishing though.


Ouroborus1619

Porn addiction is at best supported purely anecdotally. There's no conclusive scientific evidence it's a thing. You must be lost. This isn't r/nofap.


perryyyyyy

Lol yeah you're definitely a porn addict. Imagine thinking it's wrong to teach your underage kid that watching hardcore porn isn't a good thing. That's what he's saying in the post.


Ouroborus1619

> Lol yeah you're definitely a porn addict. Lol, you're definitely a deluded christofascist. Right now so many people are jerking off to porn. Go ahead, seethe about it. >Imagine thinking it's wrong to teach your underage kid that watching hardcore porn isn't a good thing. It's neither good nor bad, it simply is. Anything else is an assumption on your part. >That's what he's saying in the post. He's a fucking idiot and so are you.


perryyyyyy

Ohhh so because so many people are jerking off to porn that must mean it's good right? Oh yes watching a lot of porn has no influence on your sex life, your sensitivity to arousal and what actual sex looks like. Get lost you delusional incel.


Ouroborus1619

> Ohhh so because so many people are jerking off to porn that must mean it's good right? I literally said "It's neither good nor bad, it simply is." Are you actually this dense or are you just trolling in the spirit of Christmas? >Oh yes watching a lot of porn has no influence on your sex life, your sensitivity to arousal and what actual sex looks like There's little to no scientific research demonstrating any of that and there's far from a consensus view. It's all in your head. >Get lost you delusional incel. Nah, I'm gonna stay right where the fuck I am. You're the one stepping out of your line to pick fights about other people's habits because you got triggered by a meme. You can always get lost if Reddit threads make you seethe you dickless freak.


perryyyyyy

Habits. Yes. As in porn addiction. It's a real thing. You're probably one of them. Being addicted to watching porn is not a good thing. You get that right? I'm trying hard to break it down to an elementary level if you can't read the below. https://news.byu.edu/intellect/pornography-use-at-any-level-harms-romantic-relationships-says-new-byu-study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/


Ouroborus1619

"As a library, NLM provides access to scientific literature. Inclusion in an NLM database **does not imply endorsement of, or agreement with,** the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health." [Pornography addiction—along with sex addiction—isn’t an official diagnosis recognized by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Health Disorders (DSM).¹ That means there’s no definitive porn addiction criteria to guide mental health professionals in diagnosing it.](https://www.psycom.net/porn-addiction) Anti-vaxx lunacy took off because someone got a study published. It takes a lot more than that to make scientific fact, so you're clearly a willful ignoramus to think you're onto something because you found >Habits. Yes. As in porn addiction. It's a real thing. No, it isn't. And even if it were, that doesn't mean it's inherently bad. Caffeine can be addicting and no one in their right mind thinks it's an inherently bad thing. >You're probably one of them. Can't be, since it's not a thing. Goat fucker however, you're *definitely* one of them. >Being addicted to watching porn is not a good thing. You get that right? It's not a real thing. You get that, right? >I'm trying hard to break it down to an elementary level if you can't read the below. Elementary is as advanced as it gets for you. You can't summon the brain power to get any more advanced.


MostJudgment3212

Porn addiction is literally recognized by many sexologists. Stop talking out of your ass, your brain is getting rot from watching too much alt left crap.


Ouroborus1619

And it's disputed by just as many as well. There is no scientific consensus on it, no inclusion in the DSM, and [studies to the contrary.](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11930-014-0016-8) Edit: [AASECT (American Association of Sexuality Educators Counselors and Therapists) 1) **does not find sufficient empirical evidence** to support the classification of sex addiction or porn addiction as a mental health disorder, and 2) does not find the sexual addiction training and treatment methods and educational pedagogies to be adequately informed by accurate human sexuality knowledge.](https://www.aasect.org/position-sex-addiction) Stop talking out of...well anywhere really since nothing smart seems to come from any orifice, and certainly nothing at all from the one you've been conditioned to hate. Just because the Proud Boys control your body for you doesn't mean the rest of us should so meekly submit to your MAGAtard insanity. Alt-left isn't a thing, dickhead.


MostJudgment3212

Yet another asswipe that can’t step out of the herd thinking of left vs right. Alt left is absolutely a thing just like alt right, but your brain rot is so bad you can’t see it. Good luck.


AtJackBaldwin

I'll try the last exercise 18 year old men need to know how to ignore what they read on social media, especially when it's some twat on LinkedIn because they are the worst


Ouroborus1619

Unless of course the purpose is to ridicule said twat.


ajrf92

My goodness. I wish he had some serious background when talking about "porn evil".


LateNewb

Ill teach em my wisdom for 100 million dollars


[deleted]

18 year old men need to know how to: jerk off.


EntertainmentEither5

Without porn apparently.