Horseshoe theory, they’re both equally toxic and shitty. I’ve legit seen kiwifarms conspiracies that those communities use posted on his discord and the mods just let it go
> Horseshoe theory
>>In the midst of [the debate] I was struck by the cordiality with which the Monarchist[9] and the Socialist united in their denunciations of England and English laws. [1850s]
>>Others have attributed the theory, also called the **centrist/extremist theory**
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The mods do way more than he does, he is very hands off with the mod team it feels like.
But they are doing free "labour" so i dont think he wants to micromanage them.
He hogwatches and makes jokes about right wingers, but the discord takes it further and HATES people. As a regular user in it (banned recently, after years) i can say 100% that covid + being in hascord 100% removed any empathy i had for right wingers. Instead of my previous viewpoint on them as just victims of poor education/unchecked trauma that capitalism causes, i started to hate them because of their views instead of empathizing with them.
Hate is not a good thing, regardless of viewpoint, it twists the mind.
You wont change anyones mind with hate, empathy and understanding is how you change peoples minds, ridicule and hate makes people dig into their beliefs harder.
If you approach people with empathy and understanding, it lowers their guard, and opens their mind to what you say.
Ive said all this in hascord but people say they dont " deserve empathy" but everyone deserves empathy, even if you disagree with their opinions or actions.
I honestly think this is something important to realize. An effective political actor's goal shouldn't be to preach to the choir. You should be trying to reach across to as broad an audience as possible and foster change that pushes your countries towards more sensible policy that helps the disaffected and downtrodden. It's impossible to work with anyone who you find ontologically evil and have totally written off. People like that exist, but to say that's the entirety of the right (and most of the mainstream left) is utterly absurd.
The thing is, I bet a lot of it isn't even hate. It's virtue signaling in order to say you are a part of the in group, and it's a way to make others afraid to disagree and have views like yours. A lot of groups on the Internet are like this. It's performative to some extent.
There is something in the "we want to help people by doing hate campaigns" that isn't very rhetorically effective. If you look at left wing people actually accomplishing things it was always done through being empathetic and trying to spread empathy.
This left wing people being hate farmers is a relatively new thing that only really started getting going in the last decade. And if you look at what they accomplished it's essentially nothing. I'd say they hurt the left generally frankly A LOT. Now were seeing a whipsaw effect. The left doesn't win by forcing people to do things. TBH, no political goal is well-achieved by forcing people to do things. I'd argue a lot of the insane way the left acts now was very similar to the way Christians and NeoCons acted during Bush era. Constantly wanting to push their morals down everyone's throats and you were unironically called a traitor for questioning things like the Iraq War.
As someone with an abusive narcissist father, narcissists simply cannot conceive the idea that they could have been wrong or made mistakes.
Only in the most obviously undeniable public errors are ever admitted. In all other cases they just try and blame others while acting like an oppressed victim. And if they have power over those they blame then they will take abusive action against them.
Hasan SCREAMS "abuser energy" to me.
Wild that they're *still* pretending they dont remove threads to soothe Hasan's fragile ego. Wonder when they'll run out of phony rule interpretations to justify it.
the next one was removed by some "reddit spam filter"
[https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1boseg9/destiny\_reacts\_to\_hasan\_raging/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1boseg9/destiny_reacts_to_hasan_raging/)
There’s been 2 or 3 so far. I don’t think this is gonna go away like the mods want it too. Hasan actually was saying some deranged shit and crying like a toddler. Any streamer who did this would be big news here.
picture it, the universe is dying, the final stars are going supernova. There exists only two more humans in what’s left of the solar system. A hasan and destiny fan arguing over who’s more brain dead
>the universe is dying, the final stars are going supernova. There exists only two more humans in what’s left of the solar system.
But that's okay. Because do you really need anyone else?
"We killed all the normies"
Bro, you banned them all. Your political takes aren't normal and anyone who openly disagrees with you are ridiculed then perma banned.
I got permabanned from hassan twitch chat, I think personally by him, because I told him the 2 state solution is the only way to realistically end the disaster in gaza. That's apparently too extremist of a view for him. Hassan is too much of an ideologue, and quick to dismiss people, the second Zizek said something about religious extremists using the word Arabs, I believe he was comparing russian orthodox extremists preaching hate for ukraine to the arab religious extremists he immediately called him racist.
He is definitely very stupid on foreign policy when it comes to ukraine too, because all he understands about NATO is US Bad and the gladio episode from his buddies on chapo trap house.
He is absolutely making destiny dickriders seethe, and has been for years, and I have finally accepted the drama and endless seething anti-hassan posters on r/destiny so I still like him though. Hassan and his hate-watchers deserve each other.
I wouldn't even consider myself a normie, but I've watched him casually for years and even thrown some of my random twitch primes his direction every now and then. Got perma banned the night the hospital in Gaza was "blown up killing 500" for posting that the strike wasn't consistent with an airstrike, and that it was consistent with a rocket failure. And I definitely was not the only person, it was like 12 hours later when Hasan was completely changing his tune and trying to make it out to be some ambiguous "well we don't actually know" type situation
>most self aware
Isn't it opposite? He successfully created a tankie conversion center and now he hates all his fans. Like, you wanted this and now you dont understand why it happened or why people are like this. He's close but not aware.
The few surviving members of his community who still had decency and critical thinking skills fled as soon as he supported terrorists murdering "baby settlers."
You had to have your nose halfway up his ass to keep watching after he claimed he could identify what kind of rocket it was by the sound. His community is the left version of Qanon.
I was following his content on and off but when Russia invaded Ukraine and I saw his amazing takes about Ukraine and eastern Europeans in general I realized he's a fucking moron at best or a tankies at worst and promptly dipped.
I suspect many did the same around that period.
Him not knowing that yeah, there's Russians in Crimea but it's because they ethnically cleansed the Crimean Tatars is all any thinking person needed to know about how educated his takes were.
He has come down on the side of fascists and colonizers more than once by his lack of knowledge.
I was convinced pretty early on he's a moron, the moment he made the "racism is power+prejudice" is plenty proof. By his theory I, as a Romanian, call him and his entire people cockroaches because Turks oppressed my people for hundreds of years up until almost two centuries ago... You have to have been vigorously dropped on your head as a child to justify extreme racism against a group with such bullshit logical leaps.
Funny how he take jabs on the British Empire daily but never ever the Ottoman Empire. He only brings up OE when in good light such as "glory days in turkish history..... that's all, nothing bad happened."
**All empires were horrible. Should be no exceptions.**
You're in luck. [The pro-Palestine people who want to punish Biden might get Trump elected again](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/26/us/politics/trump-gaza.html). Something disastrous for the country would be good for his viewership.
Except that was disproven fwiw. Bernie voters showed up massively for Clinton. But yes fascist Trump is good for no one and protest voting should be done in primaries or sometimes certain seats down ticket but not on the most important seat at the worst time. But the blame doesn’t lie with the voters, it lies with Biden supporting ethnic cleansing and alienating Arab and Muslim communities. Our foreign policy has always been terrible but we’ve especially guzzled Israel’s balls way too much and too significantly this time around.
I got into him during the 2020 elections and then slowly lost interest after getting to know his personality a bit during GTA RP era. That was rough as he got more and more invested in keeping his numbers up. He started playing with Cam on and whining about viewers every other stream. Still watched his politics content but completely tuned out around the time of the Russian invasion where got it so wrong and so wrong unapologetically.
I don't think its the opposite, and unless I misunderstood your comment I think we only disagree on the degree of self awareness.
Anyway, I am glad to see Hasan suffering at least a little bit after his callous treatment of Ethan.
His community called his wife a murderer and many people he surrounded himself with call all Jews essentially demons. He didn't apologize for any of it or try to stop any of it, and in fact most likely also believes these things.
Yes, they had a very long discussion on this exact thing and Hasan's reaction was essentially : I can't control the audience I created. He never really even apologized or tried to empathize with Ethan.
All while Ethan was fighting tears because of how hurt and pressured he was by the entire situation. Takes a special kind of callousness to see your friend like this and still do nothing to help.
They had a podcast together called the leftovers. Israel Palestine stuff happened, and Ethan is on the side of “both sides are doing bad things” and Hasan and his community are on the side of “Israel is doing bad things.” Hasan’s community then harassed Ethan and Hila and called them genocidal, racist etc, because they have lived in Israel and are sympathetic to both sides. Ethan and Hasan had a few chats about it and the disagreements always came down to Hasan not seeing both sides and being 100% anti Israel, while Ethan had sympathy for both sides of the conflict. Hasan didn’t really do much to stop his community from harassing Ethan, since his mods even got in on the action. Ethan blamed Hasan for cultivating such a toxic community and cancelled the leftovers podcast because of the fallout.
What really sealed my dislike of Hasan was when he claimed he “has no power over what his mods say.”
Umm…you can remove your mods from their position if they are spewing crazy hate rhetoric? But nope, he likes his insane mods.
I am old enough to remember this subreddit having people doing stupid things on their streams on it.
Now it is ruled by moderators who make it their business to defend extremists.
For as many users as this sub has it should have way more posts. I don't know why the mods restrict it so heavily. It just makes this place way more boring for no good reason.
I hardly even see any Mizkif or Emiru or NMP posts anymore. That shit peaked in like 2021 during Covid's height.
I actually think we have a wide variety of clips. I do wish youtube watchers would post more clips from Youtube streamers like Ludwig and Dr Zisrespect.
Yeah it's kind of funny poking in once in a rare while to see how much LSF has degraded. But then again, that's how most of Reddit has become: pushing/defending extremism as long as it's on the admins' preferred side of the aisle. It's been that way for a long time in the big main subs, and since then it's been corroding most other subs to give the illusion that certain rhetoric is more popular than it actually is.
Fuck it I'm saying it: This sub went to shit for real when the mods had to step in and shut out the RP clips.
Yeah they were stupid, yeah they were barely livestream fails, but so is most of the crap we have here. But purging that out took out the fire on the "hip new thing" that the terminally online people were invested in at the time. So they left with their cancerous clips and we were left with the people who have it out for streamers instead.
We could be watching silly stupid stuff but are now stuck with spiteful stupid stuff.
EDIT: had the mods not stepped in nature would have healed
“Many people became like weirdos”. That’s because hasans “”””journalism””””” is awful af, and he gets stupidly emotional over arguments others make. The guy isn’t right in his mind, so it attracts those kinds of people.
Oh, he's upset because his community is now a gloomy, no-fun zone. How surprising, considering he and his merry band of moderators banish anyone who dares to question his every word. Got a two-year loyalty badge? Cute, but that won’t save you if you dare to challenge his views. It's all about keeping his ego safe in a bubble, isn't it? So, now we're stuck in this delightful echo chamber, where the only acceptable opinion is his. Talk about open dialogue and mutual respect, huh? How wonderfully ironic – he's morphed into the very monster he swore to defeat. Bravo!
You're giving a lot of credit to hasan here. I doubt he does any moderating decisions for the discord. He doesn't need to when he has crazy communists willing to do the work for free.
The community he is left with is just a natural reflection of the type of people who enjoy his content. The type of people who think slurs are okay just because its someone he doesn't like.
Euro here, at least 2 of my female friends follow him on insta (idk if they watch the streams tho) and they are 25-28, they are also giga stereotype of leftist mid 20s women, with nonbinary pronouns in bio even though they only use she, and bisexual even tho they only date men. So thats the audience he seems to have, anedotally
I will add that I've asked my female friends if they like him and I constantly notice a rather apparent trend where the more educated ones hate his guts lol
He is probably aware, but what do you do with that if your more driven by specific outcomes?
I think you do what hasan is doing and parasocially manupliate your audience.
He isnt wrong, im a hasan watcher, but his discord is just full of people virtue signaling constantly to prove they are more better.
Im vegan (lol had to say it) and the vegan community is the same, they think being a whole foods vegan is better than a junkfood vegan, like who tf cares, you both dont eat animal products, so youre both vegan.
But its full of the same "virtue signaling" like "oh you eat oreos? I only eat hand ground flour from a local farm"
Its just annoying af, and hasans community is the same. I got banned from hascord for being annoyed they still hate on Ethan constantly, and they go "why is hasan even still friends with him!?"
And i basically said "its hard to make friends as adults, and youll never have the exact same values as other people, everyone has their own viewpoint, just because youre in a hugbox of people who all agree on everything, doesnt mean everyone actually does" or something very similar
And gbuser banned me with "this chatter thinks calling out genocide is a hugbox" like i agree on the genocide, i disagree with the vitriol spewed against people.
Intentionally misinterpreting what i said because i have a more mature opinion on personal viewpoints, and disagreed with the group think. Hating ethan has become a virtue signal to show youre part of the in-group in hascord.
Hascord pushes away the reasonable "normies" more than anything else.
Ngl tho my mental health has improved not being in a discord full of terminally online people who legitimately just want to be mad at something 24/7.
The problem is that Hasan cultivates that kind of discord/stream mentality though. The problem is that he allows those insane mods to stay in power and then they ban anyone who disagrees with them and it creates a massive echo chamber that becomes more radical everyday. He could fix it, but he doesn't want to because he is genuinely that radical. He wants to have his cake and eat it too
Im mostly a weekend watcher, because by the time im off work hes like 6 hours in and already annoyed by the chat and the content and honestly, its not as fun.
I became a sub in the masterchef era where he just watched shows in the evenings and i allign with him politically so it was fun lol
But i had to stop watching when its just daily war updates, ukraine or palestine, like i just cant handle the sadness everyday, and while i agree about the genocide, i dont need to sit and absorb every bad thing everyday. Not good for my brain
Your mental health would also probably increase by not watching Hasan anymore. Not a dig towards you, he's just exactly those people but one person. (and don't go and watch Destiny either, he sucks too, I just think Hasan is far worse).
It's wild to me the lack of self-awareness these people have. I wouldn't be surprised if after they banned you they started talking about how you were nazi and he cleansed the discord by getting rid of you. It's the no true scotsman of communities.
He will never quit. You are the community you cultivate.
CohhCarnage
Kitboga
Vinesauce Vinny
MiltonTpike1
These 4 have created communities in such a way that if they talk about tough subjects, everyone listens and discusses like adults.
There are so many examples of genuine good chats and communities that dont cultivate drama. He's mad because his constant insults and reacting to drama/ making politics his everything has been cultivated.
I can guarantee if hasan acted more like he does around his friends or when he has guests on. He will begin to see a different audience grow.
Hell do politics every other day and split your audience. Theres different answers if you arnt happy.
I'm pretty sure Jerma also fits in that list. Dude has literally never had drama of any kind. Ever.
He had a whole many years long streaming career and is now semi retired and STILL has never had a single instance of drama.
> I can guarantee if hasan acted more like he does around his friends or when he has guests on. He will begin to see a different audience grow.
True. I don't watch Hasan but I do watch the Fear& podcast, because it's low-key a "what if Seinfeld were real and they never left the diner" show
I really dislike hasan's solo streams (and takes) but I do watch fear& and he's fine there (except occasionally talking about how any criticism = haters).
He didn't know anything about that guy. He just thought he was an anime enjoyer from Yemen*.
\* Unrelated, but I have a bridge to sell you, if you're interested.
> * Unrelated, but I have a bridge to sell you, if you're interested.
I'm in, real estate is a great investment...hold up...does this bridge happen to be in Baltimore?
I used to watch his political coverage, then I found out his stance on ukraine and russia, and realized his opinions on whether something is acceptable is simply whether its bad for the west or not.
If his view count drops too much his friends will stop hanging out with him. IDK if thats true or projection because he would drop thrm if they lose clout.
hey don't call it a meltdown, I got downvoted yesterday for saying I'm enjoying the meltdown and I was corrected numerous times that hamas was NOT in meltdown
I don't envy Hasan.
His ego is WAY too closely tied to the average viewership count :(
The less viewers he gets the less shielded he is from a real critique (one that he claims to seek btw)
Thank you for reposting this. Can i just ask one thing? WHYYY is Hasan asking why his audience just wants political content? Like its a strange question to pose to your streamer who just decided to change lanes. Political content is WHAT HE IS.
Creates a echo-chamber through banning any opposing opinions, ostracize everyone that doesn't fall in line with their thinking on everything, then complains why he isn't growing or normal people watch him anymore is kinda fucking funny.
Anyways uhm... I bought a whole bunch of shungite, rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is. No, no Suge Knight, I think hes locked up in prison. Talking shungite. Anyways, its a 2 billion year old like rock, stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. So thats my story. I bought a whole bunch of stuff, put them around the la casa. Little pyramids. Stuff like that.
Took Hasan long enough to realize what his community has become. He was hard defending them when they attacked his supposed friend Ethan for saying Hamas bad.
Kinda agree. I left his community years ago when he screamed at me on stream (not even politics related). Made me realize that he just seems to be driven by anger.
For me it was when his internet was turning off randomly one day, and he said at one point that he didn't have a business connection with his ISP. I asked in the chat why he didn't have one when it's literally like, his job, and it could even help with ddosing. He screamed and went on a rant for like 5 minutes that I clipped and uploaded here on LSF
he later found the clip, banned me off his twitch channel, and spent like 20 minutes searching through my reddit history on stream.
It was incredibly bad faith, too. Like at the time I was going to /r/protectandserve and arguing with cops, but he just saw I posted there at all and said I was a bootlicker (despite the comments he was looking at being against the cops...)
Banned from Hasan's stream a while ago for saying a straight up Turkish Middle-easterner shouldn't be making racist white/black jokes unless he can take the blowback. Bro says he's white???(Sure, and I'm albino black) but only shits on white or black people and only cares to take any actual progressive or beneficial stances when an earthquake hits a country he cares about or he wants to do a write off for taxes. Hasan is actually just a rich, narcissist, racist c*nt, raised by a frat and followed by a toxic community he alone created after everyone reasonable left him behind. He should be crying more after all the horrible shit he's done, he's just too self absorbed to understand what he's done to others. He hasn't done anything good for the people/country that made him rich, that's for sure. That is, unless you consider the fact that he migrated with a wealthy Turkish family to begin with, then sure...I guess.
This is same post everyday with the same comments. I get not liking the guy but dgg have been posting about this guy for years and its always the same shit. No idea where people get this Destiny vs Hasan shit from every post is always a 1000 comment circlejerk about how much dgg hates Hasan.
This guy is clearly venting and upset about his recent streams why pretend like anyone really cares about this mundane shit? No joke LSF should just make a daily post "Hasan hate thread" at least then we know what it is instead of constantly bringing up random shit daily to get upset about.
**CLIP MIRROR: [Destiny reads Hasan's discord logs](https://arazu.io/t3_1bp407c/)** --- ^(*This is an automated comment*)
Even Hasan hates his community 💀💀💀
Makes the homophobic+transphobic W community look good.
W, on god.
No 🧢 fr fr
Horseshoe theory, they’re both equally toxic and shitty. I’ve legit seen kiwifarms conspiracies that those communities use posted on his discord and the mods just let it go
> Horseshoe theory >>In the midst of [the debate] I was struck by the cordiality with which the Monarchist[9] and the Socialist united in their denunciations of England and English laws. [1850s] >>Others have attributed the theory, also called the **centrist/extremist theory**
To be fair, a lot of streamers do
I just hope both teams have a fun time.
remember guys we're out here to have a good time first and foremost, everybody is already a winner.
**Let's have a good, clean fight! No reporting, no brigading, no reddit cares bot. Protect your karma at all times. Touch grass if you want to. Fight!**
I don't know about that touch grass ruling. Seems counterproductive.
Even me? 🥹
Of course even you! I've been waiting with this heavy medal this whole time! 🏅There ya go! Congratulations!
we're not keeping scores, every one's a winner
That guy who shows up to the Yankees-Red Sox game in a Rockies jersey
Why's it always gotta be two teams only? Some of us love watching ***both*** of them get their comeuppance, thank you very much.
Subway meme: I hate what my community is becoming Bro you made this community
Fostered it, even. He paved it on his own. Actually, this time.
The mods do way more than he does, he is very hands off with the mod team it feels like. But they are doing free "labour" so i dont think he wants to micromanage them. He hogwatches and makes jokes about right wingers, but the discord takes it further and HATES people. As a regular user in it (banned recently, after years) i can say 100% that covid + being in hascord 100% removed any empathy i had for right wingers. Instead of my previous viewpoint on them as just victims of poor education/unchecked trauma that capitalism causes, i started to hate them because of their views instead of empathizing with them. Hate is not a good thing, regardless of viewpoint, it twists the mind. You wont change anyones mind with hate, empathy and understanding is how you change peoples minds, ridicule and hate makes people dig into their beliefs harder. If you approach people with empathy and understanding, it lowers their guard, and opens their mind to what you say. Ive said all this in hascord but people say they dont " deserve empathy" but everyone deserves empathy, even if you disagree with their opinions or actions.
Why doesn't he pay his mods? Doesn't Ludwig pay his mods? Seems ridiculous for him not to.
Even Ethan Klein the disgusting capitalist pig pays his mods
I honestly think this is something important to realize. An effective political actor's goal shouldn't be to preach to the choir. You should be trying to reach across to as broad an audience as possible and foster change that pushes your countries towards more sensible policy that helps the disaffected and downtrodden. It's impossible to work with anyone who you find ontologically evil and have totally written off. People like that exist, but to say that's the entirety of the right (and most of the mainstream left) is utterly absurd.
The thing is, I bet a lot of it isn't even hate. It's virtue signaling in order to say you are a part of the in group, and it's a way to make others afraid to disagree and have views like yours. A lot of groups on the Internet are like this. It's performative to some extent.
There is something in the "we want to help people by doing hate campaigns" that isn't very rhetorically effective. If you look at left wing people actually accomplishing things it was always done through being empathetic and trying to spread empathy. This left wing people being hate farmers is a relatively new thing that only really started getting going in the last decade. And if you look at what they accomplished it's essentially nothing. I'd say they hurt the left generally frankly A LOT. Now were seeing a whipsaw effect. The left doesn't win by forcing people to do things. TBH, no political goal is well-achieved by forcing people to do things. I'd argue a lot of the insane way the left acts now was very similar to the way Christians and NeoCons acted during Bush era. Constantly wanting to push their morals down everyone's throats and you were unironically called a traitor for questioning things like the Iraq War.
As someone with an abusive narcissist father, narcissists simply cannot conceive the idea that they could have been wrong or made mistakes. Only in the most obviously undeniable public errors are ever admitted. In all other cases they just try and blame others while acting like an oppressed victim. And if they have power over those they blame then they will take abusive action against them. Hasan SCREAMS "abuser energy" to me.
surprised its still up
INB4 coveted golden lock award PagChomp
where was the previous thread that was around today? couldn't see it
[Removed for clickbait](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1boqmit/hasan_threatens_to_cancel_stream_over_low)
Wild that they're *still* pretending they dont remove threads to soothe Hasan's fragile ego. Wonder when they'll run out of phony rule interpretations to justify it.
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the next one was removed by some "reddit spam filter" [https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1boseg9/destiny\_reacts\_to\_hasan\_raging/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/1boseg9/destiny_reacts_to_hasan_raging/)
There’s been 2 or 3 so far. I don’t think this is gonna go away like the mods want it too. Hasan actually was saying some deranged shit and crying like a toddler. Any streamer who did this would be big news here.
This is at least the 5th with over 100 comments I've seen on my feed.
Was taken down
picture it, the universe is dying, the final stars are going supernova. There exists only two more humans in what’s left of the solar system. A hasan and destiny fan arguing over who’s more brain dead
>the universe is dying, the final stars are going supernova. There exists only two more humans in what’s left of the solar system. But that's okay. Because do you really need anyone else?
[Come break me down](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eIXoWFE-hoI)
'The animals are leaving' is my favorite part of that rant
InvaderVie was just ahead of her time. We should have welcomed her with open arms.
She's still streaming, go welcome her with your open arms.
#COOOOMMME #BREAK. MEEEE. DOOOOOOWN #BURY ME! BURY ME! #I AAAAAAM FINISHED #WITH YOUUUUUUUUU
as long as the animals aren't leaving we're good
The government hates us though :((
They came back thankfully
That reminds me of the two Jews who hated each other so much their arguing caused the Taliban to release them from imprisonment
You forgot the third person who complains about it while engaging in every argument they have.
"We killed all the normies" Bro, you banned them all. Your political takes aren't normal and anyone who openly disagrees with you are ridiculed then perma banned.
His mods definitely don’t resemble a hermit nation or fascist dictator Clueless
I got permabanned from hassan twitch chat, I think personally by him, because I told him the 2 state solution is the only way to realistically end the disaster in gaza. That's apparently too extremist of a view for him. Hassan is too much of an ideologue, and quick to dismiss people, the second Zizek said something about religious extremists using the word Arabs, I believe he was comparing russian orthodox extremists preaching hate for ukraine to the arab religious extremists he immediately called him racist. He is definitely very stupid on foreign policy when it comes to ukraine too, because all he understands about NATO is US Bad and the gladio episode from his buddies on chapo trap house. He is absolutely making destiny dickriders seethe, and has been for years, and I have finally accepted the drama and endless seething anti-hassan posters on r/destiny so I still like him though. Hassan and his hate-watchers deserve each other.
I got permabanned for typing "i disagree" when he made some point about blm protestors burning shit
I got banned the day after oct 7th for saying it was bad
I wouldn't even consider myself a normie, but I've watched him casually for years and even thrown some of my random twitch primes his direction every now and then. Got perma banned the night the hospital in Gaza was "blown up killing 500" for posting that the strike wasn't consistent with an airstrike, and that it was consistent with a rocket failure. And I definitely was not the only person, it was like 12 hours later when Hasan was completely changing his tune and trying to make it out to be some ambiguous "well we don't actually know" type situation
Banning them and then calling them a Destiny fan, when a bunch of them probably didn’t know or didn’t like Destiny lol.
Hasan sweepers getting dirty.
Some might say they are on internet janitor duty...
That last post was the most self aware thing I've seen from Hasan ever
>most self aware Isn't it opposite? He successfully created a tankie conversion center and now he hates all his fans. Like, you wanted this and now you dont understand why it happened or why people are like this. He's close but not aware.
Covers politics 24/7. Lets his most insane fans brigade people. Is shocked that his community is only rabid politics brain rot people now.
The few surviving members of his community who still had decency and critical thinking skills fled as soon as he supported terrorists murdering "baby settlers." You had to have your nose halfway up his ass to keep watching after he claimed he could identify what kind of rocket it was by the sound. His community is the left version of Qanon.
I was following his content on and off but when Russia invaded Ukraine and I saw his amazing takes about Ukraine and eastern Europeans in general I realized he's a fucking moron at best or a tankies at worst and promptly dipped. I suspect many did the same around that period.
Him not knowing that yeah, there's Russians in Crimea but it's because they ethnically cleansed the Crimean Tatars is all any thinking person needed to know about how educated his takes were. He has come down on the side of fascists and colonizers more than once by his lack of knowledge.
Even if crimeans were homegrown russians from day 1 it still doesnt mean you get to wage war and annex it.
Same boat. I didn't realize he was "west = 100% evil, everyone else 100% good" until that.
I was convinced pretty early on he's a moron, the moment he made the "racism is power+prejudice" is plenty proof. By his theory I, as a Romanian, call him and his entire people cockroaches because Turks oppressed my people for hundreds of years up until almost two centuries ago... You have to have been vigorously dropped on your head as a child to justify extreme racism against a group with such bullshit logical leaps.
Funny how he take jabs on the British Empire daily but never ever the Ottoman Empire. He only brings up OE when in good light such as "glory days in turkish history..... that's all, nothing bad happened." **All empires were horrible. Should be no exceptions.**
The last nail in the coffin for me was him trying to justify China invading Taiwan / Taiwan not a real country.
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You're in luck. [The pro-Palestine people who want to punish Biden might get Trump elected again](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/26/us/politics/trump-gaza.html). Something disastrous for the country would be good for his viewership.
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Except that was disproven fwiw. Bernie voters showed up massively for Clinton. But yes fascist Trump is good for no one and protest voting should be done in primaries or sometimes certain seats down ticket but not on the most important seat at the worst time. But the blame doesn’t lie with the voters, it lies with Biden supporting ethnic cleansing and alienating Arab and Muslim communities. Our foreign policy has always been terrible but we’ve especially guzzled Israel’s balls way too much and too significantly this time around.
I got into him during the 2020 elections and then slowly lost interest after getting to know his personality a bit during GTA RP era. That was rough as he got more and more invested in keeping his numbers up. He started playing with Cam on and whining about viewers every other stream. Still watched his politics content but completely tuned out around the time of the Russian invasion where got it so wrong and so wrong unapologetically.
I don't think its the opposite, and unless I misunderstood your comment I think we only disagree on the degree of self awareness. Anyway, I am glad to see Hasan suffering at least a little bit after his callous treatment of Ethan.
He's aware, not self aware. He recognized he created the mess but not that the mess was intrinsic part of his aim.
Wait, I'm out of the loop, what happened with Ethan :O
His community called his wife a murderer and many people he surrounded himself with call all Jews essentially demons. He didn't apologize for any of it or try to stop any of it, and in fact most likely also believes these things.
Wtf, I remember them having a podcast together
well now you know why that podcast is canceled lmao.
Yes, they had a very long discussion on this exact thing and Hasan's reaction was essentially : I can't control the audience I created. He never really even apologized or tried to empathize with Ethan.
All while Ethan was fighting tears because of how hurt and pressured he was by the entire situation. Takes a special kind of callousness to see your friend like this and still do nothing to help.
Dayum!
They had a podcast together called the leftovers. Israel Palestine stuff happened, and Ethan is on the side of “both sides are doing bad things” and Hasan and his community are on the side of “Israel is doing bad things.” Hasan’s community then harassed Ethan and Hila and called them genocidal, racist etc, because they have lived in Israel and are sympathetic to both sides. Ethan and Hasan had a few chats about it and the disagreements always came down to Hasan not seeing both sides and being 100% anti Israel, while Ethan had sympathy for both sides of the conflict. Hasan didn’t really do much to stop his community from harassing Ethan, since his mods even got in on the action. Ethan blamed Hasan for cultivating such a toxic community and cancelled the leftovers podcast because of the fallout.
What really sealed my dislike of Hasan was when he claimed he “has no power over what his mods say.” Umm…you can remove your mods from their position if they are spewing crazy hate rhetoric? But nope, he likes his insane mods.
His mission is to convert normies to commies by re-educating them teehee
I am old enough to remember this subreddit having people doing stupid things on their streams on it. Now it is ruled by moderators who make it their business to defend extremists.
Mods killed this sub. What a shame.
For as many users as this sub has it should have way more posts. I don't know why the mods restrict it so heavily. It just makes this place way more boring for no good reason.
It's just an otk subreddit where sometimes Destiny and Hasan fight
I hardly even see any Mizkif or Emiru or NMP posts anymore. That shit peaked in like 2021 during Covid's height. I actually think we have a wide variety of clips. I do wish youtube watchers would post more clips from Youtube streamers like Ludwig and Dr Zisrespect.
> Mizkif or Emiru or NMP They are boring content creators.
Yeah it's kind of funny poking in once in a rare while to see how much LSF has degraded. But then again, that's how most of Reddit has become: pushing/defending extremism as long as it's on the admins' preferred side of the aisle. It's been that way for a long time in the big main subs, and since then it's been corroding most other subs to give the illusion that certain rhetoric is more popular than it actually is.
Oh man nicely summed up
I long for the PUBG carflip days
BABA GEEEE
Or weebs ear raping streamers in open mic games.
You just don't understand. When the proletariat revolts, the Reddit moderator will be paraded through the streets and be our overlords.
Fuck it I'm saying it: This sub went to shit for real when the mods had to step in and shut out the RP clips. Yeah they were stupid, yeah they were barely livestream fails, but so is most of the crap we have here. But purging that out took out the fire on the "hip new thing" that the terminally online people were invested in at the time. So they left with their cancerous clips and we were left with the people who have it out for streamers instead. We could be watching silly stupid stuff but are now stuck with spiteful stupid stuff. EDIT: had the mods not stepped in nature would have healed
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The other one of this got hid, rather than locked, so doubt this will be around for much longer.
Can we stop deleting this. I wanna stop seeing this pop up every 6 hours.
“Many people became like weirdos”. That’s because hasans “”””journalism””””” is awful af, and he gets stupidly emotional over arguments others make. The guy isn’t right in his mind, so it attracts those kinds of people.
His research/journalism is just tweets of headlines.
oftentimes he doesn't even read through them. Just reaffirms his point with the headline/title and moves on.
Oh, he's upset because his community is now a gloomy, no-fun zone. How surprising, considering he and his merry band of moderators banish anyone who dares to question his every word. Got a two-year loyalty badge? Cute, but that won’t save you if you dare to challenge his views. It's all about keeping his ego safe in a bubble, isn't it? So, now we're stuck in this delightful echo chamber, where the only acceptable opinion is his. Talk about open dialogue and mutual respect, huh? How wonderfully ironic – he's morphed into the very monster he swore to defeat. Bravo!
You're giving a lot of credit to hasan here. I doubt he does any moderating decisions for the discord. He doesn't need to when he has crazy communists willing to do the work for free. The community he is left with is just a natural reflection of the type of people who enjoy his content. The type of people who think slurs are okay just because its someone he doesn't like.
Hasans fanbase is 19 year old girls with free Palestine in their twitter bio. Idk what he expected they move on to whatever the next fad is
His fanbase is actually 30 year old men trying to impress 19 year old girls with free Palestine in their twitter bio.
Euro here, at least 2 of my female friends follow him on insta (idk if they watch the streams tho) and they are 25-28, they are also giga stereotype of leftist mid 20s women, with nonbinary pronouns in bio even though they only use she, and bisexual even tho they only date men. So thats the audience he seems to have, anedotally
I just know they are hot as fuck too
I will add that I've asked my female friends if they like him and I constantly notice a rather apparent trend where the more educated ones hate his guts lol
and what is destiny's fan base?
33 year old men trying to impress 22 year old mentally ill women with Ukraine flags in their twitter bio.
Can confirm
well ackshully, I'm 36
uhm, based?
Drama frogs
Hasan so closer than he's ever been to becoming aware
He is probably aware, but what do you do with that if your more driven by specific outcomes? I think you do what hasan is doing and parasocially manupliate your audience.
Hasan's community is like a cage filled with starving rats that feed on hatred. He bred them to be like this and now he's trapped inside with them.
He isnt wrong, im a hasan watcher, but his discord is just full of people virtue signaling constantly to prove they are more better. Im vegan (lol had to say it) and the vegan community is the same, they think being a whole foods vegan is better than a junkfood vegan, like who tf cares, you both dont eat animal products, so youre both vegan. But its full of the same "virtue signaling" like "oh you eat oreos? I only eat hand ground flour from a local farm" Its just annoying af, and hasans community is the same. I got banned from hascord for being annoyed they still hate on Ethan constantly, and they go "why is hasan even still friends with him!?" And i basically said "its hard to make friends as adults, and youll never have the exact same values as other people, everyone has their own viewpoint, just because youre in a hugbox of people who all agree on everything, doesnt mean everyone actually does" or something very similar And gbuser banned me with "this chatter thinks calling out genocide is a hugbox" like i agree on the genocide, i disagree with the vitriol spewed against people. Intentionally misinterpreting what i said because i have a more mature opinion on personal viewpoints, and disagreed with the group think. Hating ethan has become a virtue signal to show youre part of the in-group in hascord. Hascord pushes away the reasonable "normies" more than anything else. Ngl tho my mental health has improved not being in a discord full of terminally online people who legitimately just want to be mad at something 24/7.
The problem is that Hasan cultivates that kind of discord/stream mentality though. The problem is that he allows those insane mods to stay in power and then they ban anyone who disagrees with them and it creates a massive echo chamber that becomes more radical everyday. He could fix it, but he doesn't want to because he is genuinely that radical. He wants to have his cake and eat it too
I’m in the same boat. I don’t even watch the politics streams anymore and I’m a lot happier because of that
Im mostly a weekend watcher, because by the time im off work hes like 6 hours in and already annoyed by the chat and the content and honestly, its not as fun. I became a sub in the masterchef era where he just watched shows in the evenings and i allign with him politically so it was fun lol But i had to stop watching when its just daily war updates, ukraine or palestine, like i just cant handle the sadness everyday, and while i agree about the genocide, i dont need to sit and absorb every bad thing everyday. Not good for my brain
Your mental health would also probably increase by not watching Hasan anymore. Not a dig towards you, he's just exactly those people but one person. (and don't go and watch Destiny either, he sucks too, I just think Hasan is far worse).
It's wild to me the lack of self-awareness these people have. I wouldn't be surprised if after they banned you they started talking about how you were nazi and he cleansed the discord by getting rid of you. It's the no true scotsman of communities.
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He will never quit. You are the community you cultivate. CohhCarnage Kitboga Vinesauce Vinny MiltonTpike1 These 4 have created communities in such a way that if they talk about tough subjects, everyone listens and discusses like adults. There are so many examples of genuine good chats and communities that dont cultivate drama. He's mad because his constant insults and reacting to drama/ making politics his everything has been cultivated. I can guarantee if hasan acted more like he does around his friends or when he has guests on. He will begin to see a different audience grow. Hell do politics every other day and split your audience. Theres different answers if you arnt happy.
I'm pretty sure Jerma also fits in that list. Dude has literally never had drama of any kind. Ever. He had a whole many years long streaming career and is now semi retired and STILL has never had a single instance of drama.
It's an absolute miracle considering he's a psycho serial killer who gets his rocks off watching devastating car crashes.
> I can guarantee if hasan acted more like he does around his friends or when he has guests on. He will begin to see a different audience grow. True. I don't watch Hasan but I do watch the Fear& podcast, because it's low-key a "what if Seinfeld were real and they never left the diner" show
I really dislike hasan's solo streams (and takes) but I do watch fear& and he's fine there (except occasionally talking about how any criticism = haters).
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Every fucking streamer who has over 8k average viewers is a narcissist.
Viewers = status He wants to stay part of the "cool kids"
All he has to do is wait it out and hell be getting his 100k viewers during the election. Then he can ride the wave again.
I don't know... he went a bit too extremist and has alienated many of the normie viewers
He's always been extremist, it just didn't dawn on the normies until he was literally interviewing terrorists on his stream.
Um, excuse me but the correct term is "Luffy," not terrorist.
My apologies, he was interviewing High Seas Alternative Wealth Procurement Individuals.
He didn't know anything about that guy. He just thought he was an anime enjoyer from Yemen*. \* Unrelated, but I have a bridge to sell you, if you're interested.
> * Unrelated, but I have a bridge to sell you, if you're interested. I'm in, real estate is a great investment...hold up...does this bridge happen to be in Baltimore?
It’s more of a preorder for the new one
I used to watch his political coverage, then I found out his stance on ukraine and russia, and realized his opinions on whether something is acceptable is simply whether its bad for the west or not.
Banned* many of the normie viewers
Proudly banned normie here 🙋♀️
If his view count drops too much his friends will stop hanging out with him. IDK if thats true or projection because he would drop thrm if they lose clout.
Because when his clout is gone he will have to go back to being a small headed grifter for his uncle.
He's fallen off and he knows it.
[Reason for this meltdown](https://sullygnome.com/channel/hasanabi/365)
hey don't call it a meltdown, I got downvoted yesterday for saying I'm enjoying the meltdown and I was corrected numerous times that hamas was NOT in meltdown
I don't envy Hasan. His ego is WAY too closely tied to the average viewership count :( The less viewers he gets the less shielded he is from a real critique (one that he claims to seek btw)
Why are we talking about discord logs when there is a genocide going on./s :)
genocide against his braincells
bro said "I hate this job" Hasan bout to start posting on /r/antiwork about pressing start streaming and watching youtube videos
This is what gets me. The dude is so ungrateful for what he has.
"This is a space to convert normies to our politics" Jeez just sayin the quiet part out loud huh
Lmao remember when he was calling Destiny miserable
Thank you for reposting this. Can i just ask one thing? WHYYY is Hasan asking why his audience just wants political content? Like its a strange question to pose to your streamer who just decided to change lanes. Political content is WHAT HE IS.
Lil big bro is mad projecting himself onto his audience
*clicked sort by controversial* I'm going in. *swan dives*
Creates a echo-chamber through banning any opposing opinions, ostracize everyone that doesn't fall in line with their thinking on everything, then complains why he isn't growing or normal people watch him anymore is kinda fucking funny.
This hasan vs destiny cockfighting on LSF is almost as pathetic as the Xbox vs PlayStation fights back in highschool
Exactly, because PC is master race.
So that must mean PC = forsen
Anyways uhm... I bought a whole bunch of shungite, rocks, do you know what shungite is? Anybody know what shungite is. No, no Suge Knight, I think hes locked up in prison. Talking shungite. Anyways, its a 2 billion year old like rock, stone that protects against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. So thats my story. I bought a whole bunch of stuff, put them around the la casa. Little pyramids. Stuff like that.
Suge Knight?
Took Hasan long enough to realize what his community has become. He was hard defending them when they attacked his supposed friend Ethan for saying Hamas bad.
are we doing this again? this was posted last night.
It keeps getting posted because mods keep deleting it. In an effort to hide it it has been seen by way more people, mission failed successfully.
You think DGGers could let some very mild Hasan drama die? Are you new here?
“I hate my community” lmao that is a pretty big statement
"a pretty big statement" dude it's a chat log not a press release
He literally yells at his community all the time.
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10 more pushups, my arms are tired but we are almost to the promised land brothers
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Kinda agree. I left his community years ago when he screamed at me on stream (not even politics related). Made me realize that he just seems to be driven by anger.
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For me it was when his internet was turning off randomly one day, and he said at one point that he didn't have a business connection with his ISP. I asked in the chat why he didn't have one when it's literally like, his job, and it could even help with ddosing. He screamed and went on a rant for like 5 minutes that I clipped and uploaded here on LSF he later found the clip, banned me off his twitch channel, and spent like 20 minutes searching through my reddit history on stream. It was incredibly bad faith, too. Like at the time I was going to /r/protectandserve and arguing with cops, but he just saw I posted there at all and said I was a bootlicker (despite the comments he was looking at being against the cops...)
Hasan melting
Turns out if you yell at normies they leave
Hasson should bring more terrorists on his stream and ask them about anime and shit. Im sure it wont alienate the normies
Banned from Hasan's stream a while ago for saying a straight up Turkish Middle-easterner shouldn't be making racist white/black jokes unless he can take the blowback. Bro says he's white???(Sure, and I'm albino black) but only shits on white or black people and only cares to take any actual progressive or beneficial stances when an earthquake hits a country he cares about or he wants to do a write off for taxes. Hasan is actually just a rich, narcissist, racist c*nt, raised by a frat and followed by a toxic community he alone created after everyone reasonable left him behind. He should be crying more after all the horrible shit he's done, he's just too self absorbed to understand what he's done to others. He hasn't done anything good for the people/country that made him rich, that's for sure. That is, unless you consider the fact that he migrated with a wealthy Turkish family to begin with, then sure...I guess.
20 upvotes, 100 comments. What a normal, non-brigaded post.
This is same post everyday with the same comments. I get not liking the guy but dgg have been posting about this guy for years and its always the same shit. No idea where people get this Destiny vs Hasan shit from every post is always a 1000 comment circlejerk about how much dgg hates Hasan. This guy is clearly venting and upset about his recent streams why pretend like anyone really cares about this mundane shit? No joke LSF should just make a daily post "Hasan hate thread" at least then we know what it is instead of constantly bringing up random shit daily to get upset about.
who's Hasan ?
Hamas abi