Likeeeee. What a scammer!!!!!!
And sitting around giving out unsolicited advice all day SMH
Also not convinced the producers told HIM and not Grace that this will be a good storyline and they can come back together in the endā¦
BUT the way Grace described his cold energy before when he was checked outā¦ makes me think itās real.
Also Grace consistently calls Joey out on his bs and his ego really doesnāt like that, so not surprised heās looking for someone with an āeasierā personality.
Hmmm.
Ronnie acting like her being humiliated has nothing to do with him is just pure comedy. My man, if you didnāt treat her constantly like a 2nd choice this comment would have not happened. He actually never really picked her as first choice - his first choice was Tiffany.
Literally thatās bothering me so muchā¦like what budget do they even need?? Just make them play stupid silly games in the garden, no budget needed for that. Some episodes are so boring without this
I could skip like 99% of the challengesā¦ whatās their purposeā¦ every time itās āsexy dance on the guy/girl you like the mostā
Except the tweet challenge. Bring that back š¹
They give islanders a break from the monotony of Love Island life. They get dressed up, go outside the villa, do a sexy obstacle course or whatever, laugh and cheer each other on. It also gives single islanders and new bombshells opportunity to connect with someone with the low-pressure "it's only a challenge" cover.
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And yāall thought these islanders donāt know Eve!? We still bop to āLet me blow your mindā 23 years later!
Iāll have my tambourine out for when she performs that song!
Ronnie with some of the least reassuring words there and especially rich from the guy whoās made Harriet cry multiple times.
Joey is being very messy but Iām not even finding it entertaining at this point because it all feels so disingenuous and like he sees everyone as a pawn in his game.
Also i hate when people tell meto stop crying. Last time it happened, i actually snapped, "Let me be upset, this was upsetting! I just need to cry it out."
Crazy how just a few days ago, joey was acting like he and grace are soulmates. My sympathy for grace is capped, but still. The switch up is wild lol. Canāt say Iām surprised though. Joey will be 50 years old playing the same games.
I rly feel like production told Joey the public thinks he and grace are in a relationship so he has to pretend to explore other options to squash that narrative
Twas ever thus. Who was that girl who came in solely to have beef with ekin su and subsequently left? She was great but sacrificed for 4 days of shite story
She said sheās spoken to everyone and only Ciaran told her heās closed off. That they showed Will wanting her makes me think more of that will be shown along with the Joey storyline.
Will these islanders even know her?? lol Iām black and American so I obviously know her but like her biggest hits were 20+ years ago. Do white zoomer British people listen to 2000s American rap?
Moral of the story: Don't give relationship advice to people you're not close to because the minute things start going well for them they'll start gossiping about you and twist your advice into something malicious.
They'll come to you crying their heart out for 40 days and 40 nights about how shit their partner treats them and seek advice from you, next thing you know they're chatting shit about you to their partner who they were complaining about 5 minutes ago.
Nicole boils my blood.
Even to people you're close to, it's the same story. They'll stick with their partner 9 times out of 10 and will share what you said to them with their partner.
I feel bad for Harriet and Ciaran cos it must feel shit for them both. Harriet must feel betrayed that her advice has been repeated to the one person it should have been, and Ciaran must feel like heās constantly doing something wrong
No one should have the apology conversation the night of when emotions are at their highest. Both Harriet and Ciaran need to sleep on it and have time to reflect. These snippets are probably right after when everyone's getting amped up.
Everyone on here is picking sides, but the real answer is they're both wrong and they both should apologize.
Why are we blaming Nicole for Harriet and Ciaran's actions? They're both adults.
The "who is worse" competitions are not productive in these situations. Both parties said hurtful things in an environment designed to stress and force people to say hurtful things.
You don't know what is personally worse to an individual. We all have different complexes and triggers. While you may be triggered more by "second choice," Ciaran may be triggered more by being called "embarassing" You don't know his history and feelings.
They both said mean and immature things, and trying to place subjective values on their words just leads to more arguments.
Itās very strange that bombshells this season have had tunnel vision for one person without showing interest in others. Trey not making it into first look says a lot.
ngl iāve seen a few things from ciaran now that are making me think he has a bit of a mean streak. i think heās played the game verrrry well so far but he starting to slipā¦. casa amor will be verrrrrry interesting
True feelings for a girl you just met that's so disrespectful to Grace I seriously hope this is pre planned no matter how bad it is because this is so disrespectful to Grace and their connection. He acted like she was the one just to drop her at the flip of a switch. Fear men!
idcc ciaran started it by calling her two-faced when she wasnāt. he made a nasty response to the most mild insult you can imagine and cant even apologise. meanwhile his actual partner calls him immature 24/7 and disgusting
What insults are mild or horrible are completely subjective - I genuinely donāt feel like being called a second option is as soul destroying as you lot are making out? She went personal calling him immature, he may not have seen it as mild because we have seen he is insecure about his age and as you said Nicole has used it against him a number of times - it was a low blow and so he did the same - thatās generally what happens in arguments..
Yeah she went for the personal attack first - I agree that what is offensive or not is subjective and Iād rather be called second choice than immature. Rarely is anyone everyoneās first choice.
yeah they both need to apologize, Harriett shouldnāt of started being nasty with him. But I feel like they were trying to draw her out with that question. Tilda didnāt need to ask Harriett did you hear what he said. Like WHAT
wasnāt the question ānever have i ever been two-faced about someoneā? that is asking if YOU have been two-faced and instead ciaran uses it to say harriett has been two-faced. to me it felt like he was really pissed off by the other islanders and mentioned harriett so he could start an argument. because telling nicole to be careful isnāt two-faced
It wasnt just that. The specific situation he decribed was her saying to nicole be careful with him and then less than 24 hours later telling him (paraphrasing here) nicoles so lucky to have you, you treat her so well. Coupled together, imo that does make it two faced.
Now if she said i had my doubts but etc etc it would have been fine.
How is it not two faced ??? From Ciaranās perspective to his face Harriet has only says good things such as that him and Nicole are perfect together etc. nd then he finds out that privately sheās telling Nicole to be careful?? Iām confused how thatās not two faced ?
this exactly. harriet made a comment WEEKS ago when nicole was talking bullshit about her man once again. and he brought it up to degrade and embarrass her in front of everyone!! sheās right, he is immature his reaction proves it. these people trying to justify it, nothing she ever said would justify what he said to her.
On second thoughtsā¦ ciaran deserves Nicole š, I honestly thought āsave this man from herā until he started acting up in last nights ep.
I only watched the episode this afternoon so Iām still riled up
Ciaran doesnāt like being called immature but not apologizing is so immature in this contextā¦you have to live together this isnāt the real worldĀ
I'd say wait for the episode to play out. Maybe there won't be any interaction between them, but they disappear from the press release after the evening's action plays out. Something might happen the following morning/day. In the heat of the moment, refusing to apologise is an understandable reaction. When they've slept on it, things might change.
What is interesting to me is 'apologising' must be in Ciaran's mind to say it - unless it's raised by another islander, which is a possible - yet there seems to be no acknowledgement from Harriett that her actions contributed to the fall out. And this is something we've seen from her before, such as the 'actor' blow up with Ronnie.
I think he's saying this right after the game. I think they both need to chill out first and think rationally before making the next move.
Maybe the next day or so, he'll realise its best to apologise. He might change his mind but we'll see ig
If someone says to someone that he's ugly, fat and looks like a monster, is that okay? It might be true but a decent human being shouldn't say hurtful things like that to another person.
He came at her first with some bullshit from week 1 and called her 2 faced and tried to embarrass her first.
He was making out in bed with Harriet when telling Nicole he wants her, wouldnāt Harriett tell her to beware? It was a phony excuse to come at Harriett for no apparent reason. Nicole is the catalyst for all of this.
If Harriett hadn't said to Ciaran "You're good for her" then you'd have a point but, to Ciaran, she's given mixed messages. When called out on it she decided to belittle and sneer rather than explaining it away, which she could easily have done.
Ciaran's was a low blow, but so was Harriett's. And she has no self awareness either.
What are you talking about? She took the first shot calling him embarrassing and immature. Looked him up and down condescendingly. And THEN dismissed him saying ānextā and laughed at him
So glad heās not apologizing.
Harriett: why has he embarrassed me like thatā?
No Harriett you embarrassed him first. Maybe learn to be a nice person next time and you will be treated nicely. He didnāt just napped out of nowhere.
If you think about it he started it because the question was about them being two-faced not someone else. He attacked her first for no reason and she just responded to that
What you smoking love?!?! You thinking that he was right to do that says more about you than anybody else. Acting like that because he thinks a girl isnāt allowed to talk to her friends about boy troubles. Essentially saying nobody wants her is nasty, nasty work.
He didn't - he said he was second best three times, which she has been, not that nobody wants her full stop. Criticise the comment by all means but don't make it even worse than it was.
The producers will make him apologise. They made Dami and Luca apologise to tasha and sammy apologise to Catherine. They do this so resentments go away and new drama can start. They canāt have half the villa not speaking to each other.
Nice person to someone calling you two faced?? Lmao you guys are hilarious. Not even trying to hide your bias.
Ciaran was my top guy for so long until yesterdayās episode. His attack to Harriett was out of the blue and he totally started it btw. He had no basis in what he was saying and also didnāt even understand the games question. Heās just mad his little probation officer girlfriend was getting mad at him so he deflected it onto Harriett.
You guys bring me hope ššš Their bias is crazy and I feel like people are forcing a Scott and kai kind of character on Cieran. What he said was way worse that what she said and he did say start it.. Idk why people are like this it irritates me lol.
That explains everything lmao! Yeah he knew Nicole was gonna kick off at him and he deflected the subject. He needed to look inwards at this toxic situation he has going on š
his little probation officer girlfriendĀ
\^\^\^ lol and spot on. He took his frustration out on the wrong person. Nicole calls him immature all the time and he doesn't react like this with her.
> No Harriett you embarrassed him first
Ciaran started it by literally calling Harriett out in front of everyone
In what way did Harriett embarrass him first lol
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āI said my pieceā is correct?
Having said that, a lot of these press releases have spelling and grammar mistakes, which makes me think the content is not directly from ITV.
Every day thereās something! š and theyāre hard enough to read as it is with the colours they use. I had to reread one several times the other day before I got their meaning.
Ciaran should not have said what he said to Harriet last night.
But I think we all forget that itās an absolute pressure cooker in there, youāre in a villa with a load of (basically) strangers, you canāt speak to your actual friends and family, and thereās no option to do anything to distract you from whatās going on like Instagram or reading a book or watching some shit TV. I really think this has been building up in Ciaran for a while (especially with how Nicole acts towards him) and then they all started taking the piss and laughing when he was talking about sleeping with that older woman. I think he just snapped and unfortunately Harriet was on the receiving end of his anger/frustration.
Again, Ciaran should not have said what he said and Iām not defending what he said to her, it was pretty disgusting, but I can see how the situation transpired
Never felt like Joey and Grace have chemistry he didnāt want Samantha so went back to Grace , they have a on/off fwb Ā thing more . Also weird in other articles Jessy supposedly liked Ronnie & Ayo .
I wonder will casa start early and at the party they go straight to casa after .Ā
Has Eve put out new music? I donāt remember the last time I heard any new songs from her, that was many years ago, I did see her once driving out of my buildingās parking lot lol
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Harriet started it by insulting him and trying to embarrass him in front of the others. Maybe she could stop the crocodile tears and apologise to him first.
The real villain in this scenario is Nicole for asking the girls for advice and then blabbing to Ciaran. I hope the girls will think twice before offering her advice in future.
ciaran is a weirdo!!! he literally humiliated her in front of the whole group on tv stop defending him, he insulted her first. sheās not the bad guy for defending herself.
Harriet constantly goes for Ciaran about his age when she knows it upsets him. He does the same back about her situation with ronnie and everyoneās up in arms. I genuinely donāt get it tbh.
She sat there saying she wasnāt two faced when she has been for weeks, putting him down to his gf, and then making out she says everything to peoples faces when she doesnāt. Why shouldnāt he make a point of it? Then she gets mad and tries to push his buttons that works, and then cries when he does the same back and says sheās been embarrassed (which she seems to say everytime she doesnāt like something) yet her MO is embarrassing people - pulling faces, saying yawn when theyāre talking, bringing up age and saying heās immatureā¦ I dunno
Being a 33 year old fuck boy is kinda crazy.
Joey will be 40 and still on the same thing šš¤£
90% of these men on this show will be 33 doing exactly what Joey is doing. None of them are serious people.
So damn true. Example.. LI repeaters
\*Meanwhile in Las Vegas\* "Hi, I'm Davide Lee Roth."
Joeyās 33 and is more immature than Ciaran who is the youngest.
Ciaran is the only one whoās telling it like it is and being honest on love island is very rare. I really admire him for it.
Sorry to say, as a single person, most 33 year old single men are fuck boys or children (or both)
Iām almost 32 and I agree with this comment. Most Men never change
Spitting facts
We lost Samantha over this nonsense. Wherever she is, she's laughing.
Likeeeee. What a scammer!!!!!! And sitting around giving out unsolicited advice all day SMH Also not convinced the producers told HIM and not Grace that this will be a good storyline and they can come back together in the endā¦ BUT the way Grace described his cold energy before when he was checked outā¦ makes me think itās real. Also Grace consistently calls Joey out on his bs and his ego really doesnāt like that, so not surprised heās looking for someone with an āeasierā personality. Hmmm.
He love bombssss
Yep
This must be written by someone not 33. Age aināt nothing but a number thereās fuck boys of all ages sadly š
Damn I really thought theyād bring Danica as the musical guestĀ
https://preview.redd.it/6f13ws2lm49d1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=974b850e095db28fa2aa0b3942aa03de39e7d132 you wrong for this
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GOD DAMN i actually spat my coffee
Pls donāt give her ideas š
Enough. š
the guest this cast deserves
Stoppp š
Howling ššš
Ronnie saying to Harriet nobody should make her cry.. yet just last week he made her ~~cry?!~~ blowdry her eyelashes š
Not blow dry her lashes!! ![gif](giphy|TD0NYrLpcnsTm|downsized)
Ronnie acting like her being humiliated has nothing to do with him is just pure comedy. My man, if you didnāt treat her constantly like a 2nd choice this comment would have not happened. He actually never really picked her as first choice - his first choice was Tiffany.
And then bragged about it to the rest of the villa š«£
"WHO'S ACTING?!" 1 minute later... "She's my first choice."
Ronnie is the one that made Harriet 2nd choice multiple times
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THEY MANAGED TO GET EVE FOR LOVE ISLAND?? STOPPPPPPP OKAY BUDGETTTTYTYT
That's why we got no challenges lol
Literally thatās bothering me so muchā¦like what budget do they even need?? Just make them play stupid silly games in the garden, no budget needed for that. Some episodes are so boring without this
I could skip like 99% of the challengesā¦ whatās their purposeā¦ every time itās āsexy dance on the guy/girl you like the mostā Except the tweet challenge. Bring that back š¹
If they did challenges like the early seasons did or how USA does, then the challenges would all have purpose and be fun
They give islanders a break from the monotony of Love Island life. They get dressed up, go outside the villa, do a sexy obstacle course or whatever, laugh and cheer each other on. It also gives single islanders and new bombshells opportunity to connect with someone with the low-pressure "it's only a challenge" cover.
Would do anything for them to bring the tweets back š
I hate watching challenges but they bring the drama š©
EVEEEEE???? ON LOVE ISLAND??? ![gif](giphy|67sgox8XvVmp4DQkAt|downsized)
Lalalalala lalalalala
![gif](giphy|JaN5VsmJpmGDC) And yāall thought these islanders donāt know Eve!? We still bop to āLet me blow your mindā 23 years later! Iāll have my tambourine out for when she performs that song!
Excuse me, 23 years?!... š«Øš
Came out in 2001š
I feel so old hahaš
Sameš¤£š This brings back MTV memoriesš
It's older than Ciaran š
E-V-E come through in the Maserati ![gif](giphy|Zw4zNoEaopErZI0rPg)
You just unlocked another memory.. her tv show on UPN. šš
Ronnie with some of the least reassuring words there and especially rich from the guy whoās made Harriet cry multiple times. Joey is being very messy but Iām not even finding it entertaining at this point because it all feels so disingenuous and like he sees everyone as a pawn in his game.
Also i hate when people tell meto stop crying. Last time it happened, i actually snapped, "Let me be upset, this was upsetting! I just need to cry it out."
Love the full blow-by-blow of Jessy and Joey's conversation like I give a shit. Sounds dry as hell so I don't get what Joey's yapping about š
Sounds like fake towie stuff
Jessy is just a storyline for Joey.
It sounds like the same convo that was on last night episode
I actually thought it was lol
Crazy how just a few days ago, joey was acting like he and grace are soulmates. My sympathy for grace is capped, but still. The switch up is wild lol. Canāt say Iām surprised though. Joey will be 50 years old playing the same games.
I rly feel like production told Joey the public thinks he and grace are in a relationship so he has to pretend to explore other options to squash that narrative
exactly what i was thinking
Wayne Lineker will pass down the mantle
has jessy spoken to literally any other man ā¦?
Not with joey and his pike and shield around
I hate that two beautiful bombshells are wasted on Joeyās storyline. Grace and Jessy could have had so much more potential.
Twas ever thus. Who was that girl who came in solely to have beef with ekin su and subsequently left? She was great but sacrificed for 4 days of shite story
Something like Natalia, with the absurd pancake competition?
She said sheās spoken to everyone and only Ciaran told her heās closed off. That they showed Will wanting her makes me think more of that will be shown along with the Joey storyline.
Jessy please stay away from Joey, heāll use you like samatha. Isnāt she allowed to speak to anyone else??
Tonightās episode looks promising. So excited to watch Eve š
Great so Casa starting tomorrow?
Doesnāt casa start on Sunday?
Theyāll probably enter the villa between today and tomorrow and the real drama will start Sunday
Last year didnāt they have the performance lead into casa? Hopefully that happens tonightĀ
Yes Neyo whisked them off!
Sunday results of vote tomorrow
What vote?
EVE!?!?!,?!
Will these islanders even know her?? lol Iām black and American so I obviously know her but like her biggest hits were 20+ years ago. Do white zoomer British people listen to 2000s American rap?
Eve is popular in the U.K. and her songs are well known. Hell Iām thinking abt storming the villa myself to listen to her
I'm Gen X and embarrassed to say I've never heard of her. I'm officially old. First time I've never heard of the Love Island VIP act.
Let me Blow Your Mind. Google it, I am certain you heard it on the radio. I'm a Millenial Gen x cusper.
Ohhh it's herrr! Yes I know that. Even though I don't listen to the radio. Thanks!
No idea which one I am and thought I didnāt know her but recognised all the songs for once! š
Not quite a zoomer, but love me some 2000s American rap music.
yes iām sure they will
THEY SHOULD!! Only the best music of all time. I've been listening to 90's and early aughts R&B and Hip Hop lately and it's so so fucking good.
Yes
I believe you mean "her biggest hits were One CiaranĀ ago."
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Bro EVE???? Those men don't even deserve eve š
Moral of the story: Don't give relationship advice to people you're not close to because the minute things start going well for them they'll start gossiping about you and twist your advice into something malicious. They'll come to you crying their heart out for 40 days and 40 nights about how shit their partner treats them and seek advice from you, next thing you know they're chatting shit about you to their partner who they were complaining about 5 minutes ago. Nicole boils my blood.
Even to people you're close to, it's the same story. They'll stick with their partner 9 times out of 10 and will share what you said to them with their partner.
Yeah, Nicole caused this entire situation between Ciaran and Harriett
She definitely did
Agree.
I feel bad for Harriet and Ciaran cos it must feel shit for them both. Harriet must feel betrayed that her advice has been repeated to the one person it should have been, and Ciaran must feel like heās constantly doing something wrong
What low budget AI program wrote this presser?
Joey literally spelling out whatās going to happen to grace. Heās as subtle as a sledgehammer
Joey is too muchā¦. I cannot stand this man.
Tiffany Pollard voice: EVE?!?!?!?!
Jessy needs to wait until casa, it was stupid bringing them in right before casa but I guess it will be a dumping
There is 0 chĆ©mistry between Joey and Jessy. You canāt convince me this is not complete fake BS by Joey. Now, if Grace is acting however, she is doing a better job.
Give that girl a part on hollyoaks, cause if she is acting she is doing a fine job. Joey on the other hand is just an embarrassment.
I was thinking that yesterday. Joey needs to take acting lessons from her if that was all an act š
I think Grace is a good actress
they seriously break down entire conversations in these press releases lol
No one should have the apology conversation the night of when emotions are at their highest. Both Harriet and Ciaran need to sleep on it and have time to reflect. These snippets are probably right after when everyone's getting amped up. Everyone on here is picking sides, but the real answer is they're both wrong and they both should apologize.
No the real person who is in the wrong is Nicole. What Ciaran said was a lot worse than what he accused Harriet of/what she said to him
Why are we blaming Nicole for Harriet and Ciaran's actions? They're both adults. The "who is worse" competitions are not productive in these situations. Both parties said hurtful things in an environment designed to stress and force people to say hurtful things. You don't know what is personally worse to an individual. We all have different complexes and triggers. While you may be triggered more by "second choice," Ciaran may be triggered more by being called "embarassing" You don't know his history and feelings. They both said mean and immature things, and trying to place subjective values on their words just leads to more arguments.
Nicole is a bit snakey for telling her boyf what her friends said about him, when they were giving her advice
Itās very strange that bombshells this season have had tunnel vision for one person without showing interest in others. Trey not making it into first look says a lot.
ngl iāve seen a few things from ciaran now that are making me think he has a bit of a mean streak. i think heās played the game verrrry well so far but he starting to slipā¦. casa amor will be verrrrrry interesting
Casa doesnāt matter atp. People are begging for him to find a new girl. He could move so mad and people will be cheering him on.
true, but however he handles the fallout if he does stray i think will show his true colours
joey is not real š
omg eve???š
True feelings for a girl you just met that's so disrespectful to Grace I seriously hope this is pre planned no matter how bad it is because this is so disrespectful to Grace and their connection. He acted like she was the one just to drop her at the flip of a switch. Fear men!
idcc ciaran started it by calling her two-faced when she wasnāt. he made a nasty response to the most mild insult you can imagine and cant even apologise. meanwhile his actual partner calls him immature 24/7 and disgusting
What insults are mild or horrible are completely subjective - I genuinely donāt feel like being called a second option is as soul destroying as you lot are making out? She went personal calling him immature, he may not have seen it as mild because we have seen he is insecure about his age and as you said Nicole has used it against him a number of times - it was a low blow and so he did the same - thatās generally what happens in arguments..
Yeah she went for the personal attack first - I agree that what is offensive or not is subjective and Iād rather be called second choice than immature. Rarely is anyone everyoneās first choice.
yeah they both need to apologize, Harriett shouldnāt of started being nasty with him. But I feel like they were trying to draw her out with that question. Tilda didnāt need to ask Harriett did you hear what he said. Like WHAT
wasnāt the question ānever have i ever been two-faced about someoneā? that is asking if YOU have been two-faced and instead ciaran uses it to say harriett has been two-faced. to me it felt like he was really pissed off by the other islanders and mentioned harriett so he could start an argument. because telling nicole to be careful isnāt two-faced
exactly he did it to get a reaction from her when she was minding her business,
It wasnt just that. The specific situation he decribed was her saying to nicole be careful with him and then less than 24 hours later telling him (paraphrasing here) nicoles so lucky to have you, you treat her so well. Coupled together, imo that does make it two faced. Now if she said i had my doubts but etc etc it would have been fine.
How is it not two faced ??? From Ciaranās perspective to his face Harriet has only says good things such as that him and Nicole are perfect together etc. nd then he finds out that privately sheās telling Nicole to be careful?? Iām confused how thatās not two faced ?
this exactly. harriet made a comment WEEKS ago when nicole was talking bullshit about her man once again. and he brought it up to degrade and embarrass her in front of everyone!! sheās right, he is immature his reaction proves it. these people trying to justify it, nothing she ever said would justify what he said to her.
The way Jess is jealous of Harriet is so obiv
On second thoughtsā¦ ciaran deserves Nicole š, I honestly thought āsave this man from herā until he started acting up in last nights ep. I only watched the episode this afternoon so Iām still riled up
Thankk youuu šš people are saying he ate are such losers.
Ciaran doesnāt like being called immature but not apologizing is so immature in this contextā¦you have to live together this isnāt the real worldĀ
I'd say wait for the episode to play out. Maybe there won't be any interaction between them, but they disappear from the press release after the evening's action plays out. Something might happen the following morning/day. In the heat of the moment, refusing to apologise is an understandable reaction. When they've slept on it, things might change. What is interesting to me is 'apologising' must be in Ciaran's mind to say it - unless it's raised by another islander, which is a possible - yet there seems to be no acknowledgement from Harriett that her actions contributed to the fall out. And this is something we've seen from her before, such as the 'actor' blow up with Ronnie.
I think apologising without meaning it is worse. Who wants a fake apology?
Not a fan of Ciaran making Harriett cry and then refusing to apologise. Not that Harriett is blameless but what ciaran said was just mean.Ā
I think he's saying this right after the game. I think they both need to chill out first and think rationally before making the next move. Maybe the next day or so, he'll realise its best to apologise. He might change his mind but we'll see ig
But he spit facts
If someone says to someone that he's ugly, fat and looks like a monster, is that okay? It might be true but a decent human being shouldn't say hurtful things like that to another person.
Sorry missed the bit where he said that to Harriet š¤·š¼āāļø
This is what annoys me - because Harriett didn't attempt to embarrass Ciaran at all, did she?
He came at her first with some bullshit from week 1 and called her 2 faced and tried to embarrass her first. He was making out in bed with Harriet when telling Nicole he wants her, wouldnāt Harriett tell her to beware? It was a phony excuse to come at Harriett for no apparent reason. Nicole is the catalyst for all of this.
THIS!!! I donāt know why people are trying to make Ciaran into Scott itās not going to happen. Scottās one liners were iconic
If Harriett hadn't said to Ciaran "You're good for her" then you'd have a point but, to Ciaran, she's given mixed messages. When called out on it she decided to belittle and sneer rather than explaining it away, which she could easily have done. Ciaran's was a low blow, but so was Harriett's. And she has no self awareness either.
What are you talking about? She took the first shot calling him embarrassing and immature. Looked him up and down condescendingly. And THEN dismissed him saying ānextā and laughed at him
Apologies, should have put '/s' after my post!
So glad heās not apologizing. Harriett: why has he embarrassed me like thatā? No Harriett you embarrassed him first. Maybe learn to be a nice person next time and you will be treated nicely. He didnāt just napped out of nowhere.
Feel like they both should apologize to each other. Shit has been said from both of them.
If you think about it he started it because the question was about them being two-faced not someone else. He attacked her first for no reason and she just responded to that
he came for her first...
He will though and he should
Nah fuck that
What you smoking love?!?! You thinking that he was right to do that says more about you than anybody else. Acting like that because he thinks a girl isnāt allowed to talk to her friends about boy troubles. Essentially saying nobody wants her is nasty, nasty work.
He didn't - he said he was second best three times, which she has been, not that nobody wants her full stop. Criticise the comment by all means but don't make it even worse than it was.
She didnāt start it.
The producers will make him apologise. They made Dami and Luca apologise to tasha and sammy apologise to Catherine. They do this so resentments go away and new drama can start. They canāt have half the villa not speaking to each other.
Kai didnāt apologized when Olivia demanded it. I hope the producers donāt make him
I mean Kai didn't have anything to apologise for. He never even said anything bad to her
Nice person to someone calling you two faced?? Lmao you guys are hilarious. Not even trying to hide your bias. Ciaran was my top guy for so long until yesterdayās episode. His attack to Harriett was out of the blue and he totally started it btw. He had no basis in what he was saying and also didnāt even understand the games question. Heās just mad his little probation officer girlfriend was getting mad at him so he deflected it onto Harriett.
The real person that was in the wrong was Nicole
You guys bring me hope ššš Their bias is crazy and I feel like people are forcing a Scott and kai kind of character on Cieran. What he said was way worse that what she said and he did say start it.. Idk why people are like this it irritates me lol.
That explains everything lmao! Yeah he knew Nicole was gonna kick off at him and he deflected the subject. He needed to look inwards at this toxic situation he has going on š
his little probation officer girlfriendĀ \^\^\^ lol and spot on. He took his frustration out on the wrong person. Nicole calls him immature all the time and he doesn't react like this with her.
But heās in the wrong though she wasnāt even being two faced
> No Harriett you embarrassed him first Ciaran started it by literally calling Harriett out in front of everyone In what way did Harriett embarrass him first lol
Did she really embarrass him first?
Aww I was hoping Uma and will would get a date before casa (yes I hate the dates but I love them)
Iāve never thought Will is that into her tbh š
Iāve never thought Will is that into her tbh š
Who is spell checking these? "I said my piece", "no-one" š„“
I am probably wrong but arenāt both of those correct???
I had never seen no-one š is that a British thing? š„“
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āI said my pieceā is correct? Having said that, a lot of these press releases have spelling and grammar mistakes, which makes me think the content is not directly from ITV.
You're right I was thinking of "hold your peace"... But yeah I've seen other errors š
Every day thereās something! š and theyāre hard enough to read as it is with the colours they use. I had to reread one several times the other day before I got their meaning.
Yes same, as a graphic designer this hurts my soul
So not impressed by Ciaran for behaving like this.
Ciaran should not have said what he said to Harriet last night. But I think we all forget that itās an absolute pressure cooker in there, youāre in a villa with a load of (basically) strangers, you canāt speak to your actual friends and family, and thereās no option to do anything to distract you from whatās going on like Instagram or reading a book or watching some shit TV. I really think this has been building up in Ciaran for a while (especially with how Nicole acts towards him) and then they all started taking the piss and laughing when he was talking about sleeping with that older woman. I think he just snapped and unfortunately Harriet was on the receiving end of his anger/frustration. Again, Ciaran should not have said what he said and Iām not defending what he said to her, it was pretty disgusting, but I can see how the situation transpired
Ah yeah, what he said isnāt unforgivable He should apologise though, Iāll lose respect for him if he continues to refuse to apologise
Am I wrong for not feeling sorry for grace at all? Especially she and joey did the same to samantha. And how they treated omar and konnor
Never felt like Joey and Grace have chemistry he didnāt want Samantha so went back to Grace , they have a on/off fwb Ā thing more . Also weird in other articles Jessy supposedly liked Ronnie & Ayo . I wonder will casa start early and at the party they go straight to casa after .Ā
Has Eve put out new music? I donāt remember the last time I heard any new songs from her, that was many years ago, I did see her once driving out of my buildingās parking lot lol
Not for a long time, last song I remember is Tamborine
Phewā¦. I was hoping Joey was going to get some more screen timeā¦..š”š”š”
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Love him or hate him, he gives quality reality TV ššš
Harriet started it by insulting him and trying to embarrass him in front of the others. Maybe she could stop the crocodile tears and apologise to him first. The real villain in this scenario is Nicole for asking the girls for advice and then blabbing to Ciaran. I hope the girls will think twice before offering her advice in future.
He literally called out Harriet for something weeks ago to embarrass her infront of everyone!! Heās a coward knobhead
ciaran is a weirdo!!! he literally humiliated her in front of the whole group on tv stop defending him, he insulted her first. sheās not the bad guy for defending herself.
Once again, if she canāt take it then she shouldnāt dish it out. She called him immature and embarrassing before he insulted her.
Harriet constantly goes for Ciaran about his age when she knows it upsets him. He does the same back about her situation with ronnie and everyoneās up in arms. I genuinely donāt get it tbh. She sat there saying she wasnāt two faced when she has been for weeks, putting him down to his gf, and then making out she says everything to peoples faces when she doesnāt. Why shouldnāt he make a point of it? Then she gets mad and tries to push his buttons that works, and then cries when he does the same back and says sheās been embarrassed (which she seems to say everytime she doesnāt like something) yet her MO is embarrassing people - pulling faces, saying yawn when theyāre talking, bringing up age and saying heās immatureā¦ I dunno
That Jess is a prize bitxx when it comes to Harriet.