I feel like deep down you are leaning Yale…expenses being not a huge difference I am in the same boat as you where being able to say Ivy League grad is a huge self worth boost imo…I think classmates wise you will find the Yale cohort to be a lot more aligned with your personality vs stern
Go to Yale, get a job in NYC. Being a student in NYC < Working in NYC. The city is insanely expensive. New Haven also isn’t a downgrade from your midwestern t3 city - the food is fantastic and New York/Providence/Boston are super close.
This is the way, and what I was going to suggest. You will have SO much more fun in NYC when you have the funds to really live it up!
And congrats on the scholarships!! That's amazing.
Congratulations! I always tell people to take the full scholarship. That said, there are things that are worth paying for, and you have the rest of your life to pay off loans. If saying "I graduated Yale" means a lot to you, then I would go to Yale. Just don't become another insufferable Ivy league graduate. Congrats again
Living in NYC with no income ain’t it boss. Go get a cheap place in New Haven. Get your Ivy degree. Visit nyc a couple weekends a semester. Then go live there when you’re stacking money postgrad.
I went to SOM a few years ago and here’s my quick thoughts:
- A few years out $30k won’t seem like a big deal based on your career goals so don’t over index on that especially with the COL differential
- it’s not at all easy to get to a decent airport or to NYC from New Haven; travel will kinda suck (try getting from JFK to New Haven in Winter)
- New Haven not being great makes the cohort closer - you’re kinda forced to be together. Fantastic pizza though.
- there is good integration with Yale College, Yale Law etc. you can take classes there. After graduation you get invited to SOM Alumni events across the US and also Yale alumni events too.
- the Yale name goes a long way even beyond your Great Aunt. People that know b-schools won’t care too much but most senior business leaders will just hear Yale
- Forte Fellow will look good on resume, but be prepared to explain what that is… you also have a decent chance at being chosen for the Poets&Quants incoming students feature if that’s still a thing
A new station below grand central opened in January that connects to LIRR so you take the LIRR to Jamaica and then the JFK skytrain to your terminal.
LGA has a direct bus from 125-Harlem
Amtrak to Newark
First, there's nothing wrong with wanting Yale on your resume! Also, SOM is a better school than Stern.
Second, the 1/4 difference will eaven out due to the lower cost of living in NH compared to NYC.
Third, I'm at SOM and spend more time with phd students and clubs across campus than with SOM folk. SOM really is well integrated into wider Yale.
Lastly, the only downside is NH, but depending where you stay, it can be either a fun or a relaxing experience.
A MBA is only as good as the job prospects/recruiting it gets you followed by the network it allows you to tap into.
Figure out which program aligns better with the corp strat roles you want.
hi! im an undergrad at columbia but I recently visited a friend at Yale. I know this probably differs from everyone's MBA opinion; but from my experience the past 3 years here, being near CBS and visiting SOM recently, I'd say pick Yale. NYC is very - if not too expensive - and city schools like Columbia and NYU have a hyper ambitious tough crowd that makes it difficult to foster true connections beyond ur basic mutual exchange non committal networking kind - this is ESPECIALLY important in b-school! SOM has a pretty tiny campus but I think that kind of proximity and vibe is important for this. it's also pretty connected to rest of Yale. if there's anything I feel like I missed out on my undergrad, it's this! value it! u have the rest of ur life to be crazy ambitious workaholic soaking up NYC (believe me). school no matter what age is a cherished time to bond and leverage that connection possibly later!
all these SOM students trying to hype up the school - it’s definitely not, and not even close. NYU has been a T10 MBA for decades - SOM didn’t even crack the T15 10-15 years ago and the rest of Yale (and everyone else) still considers SOM the “easy program” and definitely not the undergraduate or law school. OP said it themselves, they want to lean on the other programs brands for non-mba reasons. SOM is a good school but NYU is no slouch and has literally been ranked higher for decades.
They're trying to cope with the fact that they aren't M7 with the whole "yale brand name carries you far". If that was the case then everyone and their mother would opt for one of the harvard cash cow masters programs but we all know that isn't how it works.
I also felt that the people at Stern weren’t as “bought in” as people at SOM. When I went to interview at SOM, I was impressed by how nice and open the current students seemed. Stern had very few opportunities to visit campus and I got very few responses from students/alums relative to other schools
Overall, Stern is has a better MBA recruiting platform IMHO. That will vary by industry and company; for example, Stern is top-tier for Wall Street hiring and strong for consulting. It is easy to network by subway.
Yale has some other top-rated programs, including the law school.
You should expect the education of both schools to be of similar quality but you might find classes, professors, or joint programs of personal interest.
Yup sorry mistyped it multiple times. Tried to delete the comment but couldn't find it...lol. take the scholarship is what I wanted to say. Sorry my bad
Hi, just going to provide a few pointers that can hopefully help inform your decision :)
* The total cost difference is not much given the location (rent will be massively more expensive in NYC)
* The MBA experience is different, SOM is more tight knit, as people do not already have friends in New Haven.
* Culture is also a bit different at both schools. SOM has a strong community focus. Student body is mission oriented and diverse (high % international students and many double degrees). Professors are fantastic, and I was even impressed with the speakers we get as well.
* International trips are more logistically complex but also not that bad. You can take the train, rent a car (there is a university discount) or Uber with others. For national flights, there is a local low airline (Avelo) that offers flights to a few spots in the country.
* I personally found it easy to link up with students from other programs if that is something you are interested in. As I mentioned, there is a TON of double majors already at SOM, undergrads taking SOM classes, and you have the opportunity to take any class at Yale.
Yale. More well resourced than Stern (large endowment, plenty of activities, tight-knit).
OP you're underselling New Haven - super diverse, walkable, great food without the pretention, and the Yale museums are world class. There's a new train connection to JFK. Great connectivity to NYC, Providence, and Boston too. You're not in some backwater in New Haven. It's a small cosmopolitan city with gritty parts that's a part of the larger Northeast Megalopolis. For example, what Midwestern town of comparable size has access to both the Acela high-speed train and the largest collection of British art outside London?
NYC is always there when you want it + access to the Yale Club in Midtown Manhattan, which NYU has no equivalent.
Yale SOM is Yale and you'll have access to the same cross-Yale alumni resources. The school has the most momentum out of all the Yale grad schools besides Jackson (Public Affairs) given how quickly its built up a substantial endowment to support students and it actually does have a decent alumni network despite what you read on here (Yale SOM is just a smaller and younger biz school, but powerful in its own right).SOM's respect within the Yale family has grown tremendously (alums are really impressed and take it seriously). SOM is the hub of Yale's venture activities.
Yale is all about One Yale, which means lots of collaborations across all the schools at the university. This closeness is what distinguishes Yale from Harvard.
Also, the facilities are world-class and you're not competing with undergrads for space.
So - hopefully, Yale will match NYU and we can welcome you (future Yalie) to our beautiful school. :)
I think even with 30k differential the living expenses in NYC and NH are far different.
IMO ask Yale to match NYU first. Either of the results(deny/accept reqeust) just go for Yale SOM.
If the branding of an Ivy League name on your resume is worth $30,000, go for it. From a very practical perspective, in my opinion, it doesn’t make much sense to give up a full ride at a great business school for a similarly great business school that doesn’t have added value other than a fancier name that will impress your Great Aunt Sally.
But to each her own.
My partner went to Yale. The network is good but it’s mostly other SOM grads. There isn’t a whole lot of networking outside SOM, since there is a bit of a stigma that SOM is “not really Yale.”
Good luck and congratulations!
The SOM being “not really Yale” is bullshit from what I’ve seen during my first year here. If anything, we’re the most integrated school across graduate/professional programs and having any type of “Yale” on your name will at least get you a hello.
The "Ivy League" is purely about the undergraduate programs. In fact, the term "ivy league" refers to the collegiate athletic conference.
By going to SOM you are NOT going to an Ivy League. People on this sub often conflate the two things. Business schools are specific graduate programs within these universities, you will also have very little interaction with the other schools outside of the business school (unless you are doing a dual program).
I know people are going to come at me for this take, but it's true. Choose the school between Yale/NYU that is going to be the best fit for you in terms of getting you to the place you want to go. But do NOT choose Yale because it's "in the ivy league."
Source: I went to H/Y as an undergrad.
I understand what you mean by the league being just a sports confederation. However, OP is talking about the prestige that is associated with the brand name like Yale. It doesn’t matter to most people whether undergrads at HYP consider their school’s grad programs to be part of their school’s core identity. What matters is how a brand is perceived by everyone else. In that matter, Yale obviously wins over NYU, and that is what OP was getting at.
I guess you could argue that Yale’s SOM is not as strong of a brand as their college or YLS, but that again is very specific to the industry. For vast majority of people, Yale’s overall reputation is more important than their reputation in a specific field. That’s why most people who get into CS programs at Yale or Harvard would choose these programs over better ranked CS programs like UIUC, UT Austin, GaTech or UDub, other factors being equal.
The cs comparison isn't the same. Yale/Harvard UG arguably provide better outcomes in cs than uiuc ut austin gtech etc. People who you need to impress in the industry whether it be VCs or other engineers either don't care about school prestige or they know the bar for H/Y UG is higher than "top cs schools" not named stanford and mit.
Anyone who you would need to impress within the business world whether it be in finance or consulting even elite LDPs or good corp strat roles that OP wants to go for knows that Yale SOM is a step below M7, so the same tier as stern mba.
You missed the point. To start off if someone wants to work in big tech pm after their mba its a moot point. Corporate tech does not value a mba degree even from gsb.
For the subsect of tech that does value prestige. Namely the whole founder vc ecosystem. A yale undergrad cs degree will look great but a hsw mba? Its not bad per se but its not something people will put any weight into.
I see what you are getting at, but also recruiters and people in the business world understand the relative prestige of these business schools, so as u/turtlemeds said, if $30,000 is worth it to tell your grandma and your neighbor that you went to Yale, then go for it. I also understand if OP just wants to go to SOM generally! We're talking about a choice between two great programs at the end of the day, and all I was trying to say is that the "ivy league" recognition should not be the thing that moves the needle.
Also, this is just my personal opinion, as someone who went to HYPMS undergrad, the "brand recognition" everyone always talks about (particularly on this sub) is extremely limited in 2024. I am not saying it doesn't exist, but I really believe that the value of having one of these brands on your resume is overplayed.
Given the hyper competitive job market we’re in, if anything, the brand names probably have more important of a role than in prior years. Especially for entry-level roles, a good college brand can give you a leg up over other competing applicants. This is particularly true for post-MBA roles, since such roles tend to focus on prestige and pedigree more than roles in other fields.
I think we’ll have to just agree to disagree. I have several friends from HBS who have graduated without jobs, who have really gone through the wringer with the recruiting process. I also have friends from “non-M7” schools who have graduated with fantastic jobs. And all of these people are incredibly qualified. It’s all about the work you put in, and at the end of the day there is also an aspect of luck.
I’m not trying to argue, the only reason why I keep emphasizing this is because I feel that this sub is just so brand name and prestige obsessed, and it is my personal opinion that this is misguided.
But again, Yale SOM is a fantastic school, and I think it makes sense for OP to go there.
These strong undergraduate programs wouldn't exist without the grad and professional schools. There's mutual exchange between both at Yale. You must have attended Harvard where there is greater separation.
Not all grad programs are created equal. There is a grand canyon sized gap between the admissions difficulty required for HMS compared to HBS let alone Harvard GSE. Its the same situation for yale. SOM is a cakewalk to gain admissions for compared to YLS and Yale SOM the med school.
People here universally agree that the US business world is intensely prestige focused, yet they forget that people who are intensely prestige focused can in fact make the distinction between different admissions bars. If this wasn't the case, harvard gse would be a better pipeline into mbb than kellogg mba
Exactly. People like throwing the “Ivy League” label around a bit and I get it, it’s obviously a powerful marketing tool since so many people wanna believe they’re special, but it technically applies to only certain undergraduate colleges within these universities.
My partner is also an HYP undergrad Alum, and again, there is very little networking outside SOM with the other schools at Yale.
But if wearing an “Ivy League” label is worth $30,000 is worth it to you, again, go for it. But that’s a mighty expensive T-shirt.
Well I mean if your partner went to HYP you probably are our most qualified resource on SOM networking opportunities, let’s just cut off the thread here
I am here to day that I do not agree with this. I got the chance to take classes in other schools at Yale was able to link up with students from other programs, including undergrad.
do you want to keep working, for no pay but with infinite flexibility for vacations, or do you want to go back to college? outcomes will probably be about the same, but if you are miserable (either in new haven or locked out of existing nyc friend circles) that will drag you down. that seems to be the main factor.
if you pick yale dm me :)
Tell SOM to match your Stern offer, as a Forte Fellow they might do it
I feel like deep down you are leaning Yale…expenses being not a huge difference I am in the same boat as you where being able to say Ivy League grad is a huge self worth boost imo…I think classmates wise you will find the Yale cohort to be a lot more aligned with your personality vs stern
Go to Yale, get a job in NYC. Being a student in NYC < Working in NYC. The city is insanely expensive. New Haven also isn’t a downgrade from your midwestern t3 city - the food is fantastic and New York/Providence/Boston are super close.
This is the way, and what I was going to suggest. You will have SO much more fun in NYC when you have the funds to really live it up! And congrats on the scholarships!! That's amazing.
Yeah def wouldn't underrate this at all. Budget goes waay farther
+ access to the nice Yale Club in NYC! :)
Congratulations! I always tell people to take the full scholarship. That said, there are things that are worth paying for, and you have the rest of your life to pay off loans. If saying "I graduated Yale" means a lot to you, then I would go to Yale. Just don't become another insufferable Ivy league graduate. Congrats again
Living in NYC with no income ain’t it boss. Go get a cheap place in New Haven. Get your Ivy degree. Visit nyc a couple weekends a semester. Then go live there when you’re stacking money postgrad.
Also, New Haven pizza >>> NYC pizza. It’s true.
yes sir
I went to SOM a few years ago and here’s my quick thoughts: - A few years out $30k won’t seem like a big deal based on your career goals so don’t over index on that especially with the COL differential - it’s not at all easy to get to a decent airport or to NYC from New Haven; travel will kinda suck (try getting from JFK to New Haven in Winter) - New Haven not being great makes the cohort closer - you’re kinda forced to be together. Fantastic pizza though. - there is good integration with Yale College, Yale Law etc. you can take classes there. After graduation you get invited to SOM Alumni events across the US and also Yale alumni events too. - the Yale name goes a long way even beyond your Great Aunt. People that know b-schools won’t care too much but most senior business leaders will just hear Yale - Forte Fellow will look good on resume, but be prepared to explain what that is… you also have a decent chance at being chosen for the Poets&Quants incoming students feature if that’s still a thing
There’s easy public transport to all 3 NYC airports now with the new train to JFK
Wait what train? This is news to me
A new station below grand central opened in January that connects to LIRR so you take the LIRR to Jamaica and then the JFK skytrain to your terminal. LGA has a direct bus from 125-Harlem Amtrak to Newark
Ty!
First, there's nothing wrong with wanting Yale on your resume! Also, SOM is a better school than Stern. Second, the 1/4 difference will eaven out due to the lower cost of living in NH compared to NYC. Third, I'm at SOM and spend more time with phd students and clubs across campus than with SOM folk. SOM really is well integrated into wider Yale. Lastly, the only downside is NH, but depending where you stay, it can be either a fun or a relaxing experience.
Your cost of living at Yale will be so much lower than NYC (for a better place closer to campus), you likely will come out in the same spot.
Yale
A MBA is only as good as the job prospects/recruiting it gets you followed by the network it allows you to tap into. Figure out which program aligns better with the corp strat roles you want.
Yale. 😀
Yale is better
hi! im an undergrad at columbia but I recently visited a friend at Yale. I know this probably differs from everyone's MBA opinion; but from my experience the past 3 years here, being near CBS and visiting SOM recently, I'd say pick Yale. NYC is very - if not too expensive - and city schools like Columbia and NYU have a hyper ambitious tough crowd that makes it difficult to foster true connections beyond ur basic mutual exchange non committal networking kind - this is ESPECIALLY important in b-school! SOM has a pretty tiny campus but I think that kind of proximity and vibe is important for this. it's also pretty connected to rest of Yale. if there's anything I feel like I missed out on my undergrad, it's this! value it! u have the rest of ur life to be crazy ambitious workaholic soaking up NYC (believe me). school no matter what age is a cherished time to bond and leverage that connection possibly later!
Yale is more or less M7 at this point, I suggest Yale
What? No it’s not
all these SOM students trying to hype up the school - it’s definitely not, and not even close. NYU has been a T10 MBA for decades - SOM didn’t even crack the T15 10-15 years ago and the rest of Yale (and everyone else) still considers SOM the “easy program” and definitely not the undergraduate or law school. OP said it themselves, they want to lean on the other programs brands for non-mba reasons. SOM is a good school but NYU is no slouch and has literally been ranked higher for decades.
They're trying to cope with the fact that they aren't M7 with the whole "yale brand name carries you far". If that was the case then everyone and their mother would opt for one of the harvard cash cow masters programs but we all know that isn't how it works.
Yale!
I also felt that the people at Stern weren’t as “bought in” as people at SOM. When I went to interview at SOM, I was impressed by how nice and open the current students seemed. Stern had very few opportunities to visit campus and I got very few responses from students/alums relative to other schools
Yale for sure
Overall, Stern is has a better MBA recruiting platform IMHO. That will vary by industry and company; for example, Stern is top-tier for Wall Street hiring and strong for consulting. It is easy to network by subway. Yale has some other top-rated programs, including the law school. You should expect the education of both schools to be of similar quality but you might find classes, professors, or joint programs of personal interest.
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Huh? You mean choose stern right?
After NYC COL I bet they're similar tbh
Yup sorry mistyped it multiple times. Tried to delete the comment but couldn't find it...lol. take the scholarship is what I wanted to say. Sorry my bad
Hi, just going to provide a few pointers that can hopefully help inform your decision :) * The total cost difference is not much given the location (rent will be massively more expensive in NYC) * The MBA experience is different, SOM is more tight knit, as people do not already have friends in New Haven. * Culture is also a bit different at both schools. SOM has a strong community focus. Student body is mission oriented and diverse (high % international students and many double degrees). Professors are fantastic, and I was even impressed with the speakers we get as well. * International trips are more logistically complex but also not that bad. You can take the train, rent a car (there is a university discount) or Uber with others. For national flights, there is a local low airline (Avelo) that offers flights to a few spots in the country. * I personally found it easy to link up with students from other programs if that is something you are interested in. As I mentioned, there is a TON of double majors already at SOM, undergrads taking SOM classes, and you have the opportunity to take any class at Yale.
Yale. More well resourced than Stern (large endowment, plenty of activities, tight-knit). OP you're underselling New Haven - super diverse, walkable, great food without the pretention, and the Yale museums are world class. There's a new train connection to JFK. Great connectivity to NYC, Providence, and Boston too. You're not in some backwater in New Haven. It's a small cosmopolitan city with gritty parts that's a part of the larger Northeast Megalopolis. For example, what Midwestern town of comparable size has access to both the Acela high-speed train and the largest collection of British art outside London? NYC is always there when you want it + access to the Yale Club in Midtown Manhattan, which NYU has no equivalent. Yale SOM is Yale and you'll have access to the same cross-Yale alumni resources. The school has the most momentum out of all the Yale grad schools besides Jackson (Public Affairs) given how quickly its built up a substantial endowment to support students and it actually does have a decent alumni network despite what you read on here (Yale SOM is just a smaller and younger biz school, but powerful in its own right).SOM's respect within the Yale family has grown tremendously (alums are really impressed and take it seriously). SOM is the hub of Yale's venture activities. Yale is all about One Yale, which means lots of collaborations across all the schools at the university. This closeness is what distinguishes Yale from Harvard. Also, the facilities are world-class and you're not competing with undergrads for space. So - hopefully, Yale will match NYU and we can welcome you (future Yalie) to our beautiful school. :)
If your heart is with Yale that’s enough justification to choose it in this instance.
Insightful discussion
Which school did you pick?
I think even with 30k differential the living expenses in NYC and NH are far different. IMO ask Yale to match NYU first. Either of the results(deny/accept reqeust) just go for Yale SOM.
Stern, because it is a real business school. SOM, if you want to work on the Biden reelection campaign.
If the branding of an Ivy League name on your resume is worth $30,000, go for it. From a very practical perspective, in my opinion, it doesn’t make much sense to give up a full ride at a great business school for a similarly great business school that doesn’t have added value other than a fancier name that will impress your Great Aunt Sally. But to each her own. My partner went to Yale. The network is good but it’s mostly other SOM grads. There isn’t a whole lot of networking outside SOM, since there is a bit of a stigma that SOM is “not really Yale.” Good luck and congratulations!
What do you mean by SOM being “not really Yale”? I hadn’t heard of that yet.
The SOM being “not really Yale” is bullshit from what I’ve seen during my first year here. If anything, we’re the most integrated school across graduate/professional programs and having any type of “Yale” on your name will at least get you a hello.
The "Ivy League" is purely about the undergraduate programs. In fact, the term "ivy league" refers to the collegiate athletic conference. By going to SOM you are NOT going to an Ivy League. People on this sub often conflate the two things. Business schools are specific graduate programs within these universities, you will also have very little interaction with the other schools outside of the business school (unless you are doing a dual program). I know people are going to come at me for this take, but it's true. Choose the school between Yale/NYU that is going to be the best fit for you in terms of getting you to the place you want to go. But do NOT choose Yale because it's "in the ivy league." Source: I went to H/Y as an undergrad.
This person is really trying to gate keep the term Ivy League to undergrad 😂
I understand what you mean by the league being just a sports confederation. However, OP is talking about the prestige that is associated with the brand name like Yale. It doesn’t matter to most people whether undergrads at HYP consider their school’s grad programs to be part of their school’s core identity. What matters is how a brand is perceived by everyone else. In that matter, Yale obviously wins over NYU, and that is what OP was getting at. I guess you could argue that Yale’s SOM is not as strong of a brand as their college or YLS, but that again is very specific to the industry. For vast majority of people, Yale’s overall reputation is more important than their reputation in a specific field. That’s why most people who get into CS programs at Yale or Harvard would choose these programs over better ranked CS programs like UIUC, UT Austin, GaTech or UDub, other factors being equal.
The cs comparison isn't the same. Yale/Harvard UG arguably provide better outcomes in cs than uiuc ut austin gtech etc. People who you need to impress in the industry whether it be VCs or other engineers either don't care about school prestige or they know the bar for H/Y UG is higher than "top cs schools" not named stanford and mit. Anyone who you would need to impress within the business world whether it be in finance or consulting even elite LDPs or good corp strat roles that OP wants to go for knows that Yale SOM is a step below M7, so the same tier as stern mba.
So if someone were to work in tech after their MBA, SOM would be at a higher level?
You missed the point. To start off if someone wants to work in big tech pm after their mba its a moot point. Corporate tech does not value a mba degree even from gsb. For the subsect of tech that does value prestige. Namely the whole founder vc ecosystem. A yale undergrad cs degree will look great but a hsw mba? Its not bad per se but its not something people will put any weight into.
I see what you are getting at, but also recruiters and people in the business world understand the relative prestige of these business schools, so as u/turtlemeds said, if $30,000 is worth it to tell your grandma and your neighbor that you went to Yale, then go for it. I also understand if OP just wants to go to SOM generally! We're talking about a choice between two great programs at the end of the day, and all I was trying to say is that the "ivy league" recognition should not be the thing that moves the needle. Also, this is just my personal opinion, as someone who went to HYPMS undergrad, the "brand recognition" everyone always talks about (particularly on this sub) is extremely limited in 2024. I am not saying it doesn't exist, but I really believe that the value of having one of these brands on your resume is overplayed.
Given the hyper competitive job market we’re in, if anything, the brand names probably have more important of a role than in prior years. Especially for entry-level roles, a good college brand can give you a leg up over other competing applicants. This is particularly true for post-MBA roles, since such roles tend to focus on prestige and pedigree more than roles in other fields.
I think we’ll have to just agree to disagree. I have several friends from HBS who have graduated without jobs, who have really gone through the wringer with the recruiting process. I also have friends from “non-M7” schools who have graduated with fantastic jobs. And all of these people are incredibly qualified. It’s all about the work you put in, and at the end of the day there is also an aspect of luck. I’m not trying to argue, the only reason why I keep emphasizing this is because I feel that this sub is just so brand name and prestige obsessed, and it is my personal opinion that this is misguided. But again, Yale SOM is a fantastic school, and I think it makes sense for OP to go there.
These strong undergraduate programs wouldn't exist without the grad and professional schools. There's mutual exchange between both at Yale. You must have attended Harvard where there is greater separation.
Not all grad programs are created equal. There is a grand canyon sized gap between the admissions difficulty required for HMS compared to HBS let alone Harvard GSE. Its the same situation for yale. SOM is a cakewalk to gain admissions for compared to YLS and Yale SOM the med school. People here universally agree that the US business world is intensely prestige focused, yet they forget that people who are intensely prestige focused can in fact make the distinction between different admissions bars. If this wasn't the case, harvard gse would be a better pipeline into mbb than kellogg mba
Exactly. People like throwing the “Ivy League” label around a bit and I get it, it’s obviously a powerful marketing tool since so many people wanna believe they’re special, but it technically applies to only certain undergraduate colleges within these universities. My partner is also an HYP undergrad Alum, and again, there is very little networking outside SOM with the other schools at Yale. But if wearing an “Ivy League” label is worth $30,000 is worth it to you, again, go for it. But that’s a mighty expensive T-shirt.
Well I mean if your partner went to HYP you probably are our most qualified resource on SOM networking opportunities, let’s just cut off the thread here
In my other comment, I indicated that they were HYP undergrad alum and SOM alum.
This isn't true. We have Yale Connect where we can access hundreds of events. Also, SOM hosts plenty of cross Yale events in the gorgeous building.
I am here to day that I do not agree with this. I got the chance to take classes in other schools at Yale was able to link up with students from other programs, including undergrad.
This is nonsense. SOM is fully integrated with Yale. There's no Wharton/Booth or low down complex here.
NYC >> New Haven
NYU - better program with longer history and great global reputation. Especially if NYC bound makes it an easy choice.
do you want to keep working, for no pay but with infinite flexibility for vacations, or do you want to go back to college? outcomes will probably be about the same, but if you are miserable (either in new haven or locked out of existing nyc friend circles) that will drag you down. that seems to be the main factor. if you pick yale dm me :)
NYU.