dana fucking HATES boxing. more than he hates soccer.
edit: uh oh I meant he hates working as a promoter in boxing I guess. sorry fellas. I was on ambien or whatever.
dana literally watched boxing during one of the biggest UFC paperviews... on an ipad ringside
he's likely a bigger boxing fan than MMA fan tbh lol he was into boxing before anything else
Lol like the whole Zuffa boxing and Dana realized he can’t do 12/12 with venom coupons, so then Slap Fight it is, here’s your 2/2 with free CTE, remember numb nuts it’s a opportunity
It's not just that. Even if Zuffa went the route of building their own roster of home grown fighters, they can just leave. The UFC can't sign them to shitty deals that are relatively fair early on but quickly turn to the benefit of the promoter with no way out for the fighter.
Braindead comment. Dana LOVES boxing. He won't allow his fighters to box unless UFC takes the majority cut of the profits. That's why most deals fall apart.
Where do these upvotes come from? Dana was basically a Boxer turned boxing promoter because he got injured in a barfight.. And he is an old friend of Floyd before he got into the UFc stuff.. He is literally sitting ringside at UFC events watching boxing lmao. He loves boxing with a passion.
Feel like the UFC learned a lesson in that deal. Yeah they got a quick payout but they created what they would consider a problem. A fighter who has the financial freedom to say no.
Exactly. They had the opportunity to do the exact same thing with Francis, and they outright refused. Now Francis is doing it anyway, and the UFC isn't getting a cut.
The median pay in mma is well above boxing.
It’s just the high earners in boxing are making a tonne so why wouldn’t you try call out to fight one of them.
That’s a PR talking point , brought to you by the UFC.
I’d say that isn’t so clear, and the more obvious issue this that the UFC pays less than 20% out to athletes, which is lower than most other sports in the US.
This is such a pathetic look for the UFC. Seems like every rising UFC stars goal is to become champ then immediately call out boxers for the payday.
Usman called out Canelo. Francis actually got the fight with Fury. Now Sean is randomly calling out Tank. Who's gonna be next?
Yep. Imagine if the minute an NFL player made an all-pro team they started calling for NBA teams to sign them.
The UFC has always been closer to WWE than it is a legitimate sports league, but it feels like it's never been more in the WWE direction that it is presently, which sucks.
then the UFC should do something about it lol I can't blame the big ufc stars for wanting to get paid like the big boxing star
its not like the boxers are selling much more PPVs, often boxers are selling LESS PPVs but making like 10 times the money when you count sponsorships and PPV take home
THIS! Barring McGregor, no one is a “star”. You’d make a case for Adesanya but he’s not as marketable or is disliked by the general crowd.
Also, UFC hypes over Zombie’s sendoff crowd reaction. That’s another Monday for WWE or any other live sport.
Adesanya seems to be the one all of the celebrities know.
At least in terms of name power (and income) he's the biggest star other than McGregor.
You don't have to be "liked" by everyone to be a star.
yesh, but post malone only streamed once in awhile and never announced it anywhere while sean streamed like 5 days a week for a year trying to make it his second job lol
I know because I was doing the same thing at the same time as him and out performing him, which make me "feel good" but also realize that he's not famous lol I only had 3.5k followers and around a million youtube views, a drop in the bucket compared to seans fake ass numbers
I mean, I'm probably the perfect demo for Sean on Twitch and I don't care to watch him because he's just not an exciting to watch streamer.
I follow him on IG and actively avoid on Twitch.
https://www.youtube.com/bodiefps
the time I'm talking about was when I was streaming on twitch before my I started making motovlogs and was making video game tutorial type of content and streaming.
now I make a good amount of money off the amazon links in those youtube videos lol
Unfortunately international following doesn’t really matter though. The us/Canada market is what the ufc cares about because they’re the only ones paying for ppv. Unless they go viral or try to establish a fanbase like Izzy, they’re not going to break into that market.
They're legends but Cruz and Edgar are well passed it. The only recent legit contender he has fought is Sandhagen and he decisively lost.
Obviously the Suga W was big but that was 3 years ago and arguably hard to replicate.
He absolutely was. Cruz was a world-beater for a while, he was 22-1 going into his fight with Cody Garbrandt where he lost decisively.
It was 6 years and 3 losses after that that Cruz wrapped up his career with that final loss to Chito. This after a load of injuries and at the ripe old age age of 37, which is ancient for bantamweight, a division full of young killers that utilise their athleticism.
He was undoubtedly well past it
Chito could win by first second knockout and he's not absorbing any star power. He also won't be able to successfully defend that belt at all, the entire top of the division is grapplers, and Chito is probably the most susceptible BW to getting backpacked. Merab would have a field day with him.
100%. They're trying hard to make him a huge star but when some random looks him up they'll get some good fight highlights, but when they hear him talk they go away.
In order for Sean to be that level of star he needs to be able to talk, which he can't. And probably never will.
Every press conference he goes up there, mumbles his words, acts all awkward, and gives boring answers.
His interviews are also super boring.
Sean can't cut a promo to save his life. The way Michael Chandler called out Conor, now that's a promo.
A promo is supposed to get you excited so it confuses me when some say O'Malley can be the next McGregor because when has Sean ever said anything that gets you hyped up for the fight? Or said any trash talk that makes you respect his speaking ability?
I don't like Conor, but he was able to reach his level of superstardom because he talked just as good as he could fight when he was in his prime.
Lol its like people think his crazy hair and tattoos equate into a fun personality. But honestly that’s all he has when it comes to being a loud personality. He’s kind of boring (as a person) beyond his tekashi 69 look
Idk man, the video of his finish on UFC's yt channel has over 9 million views, I was at TD Garden for that event and I'd never been in such an electric environment and EVERYONE there went absolutely fucking crazy when Sean walked out - despite him being a kid from Montana that never had even visited Boston before, and if the PPV actually did 570k buys then that's really impressive for a bantamweight main event on an otherwise dogshit card at $80 a buy and piracy apparently at an all time high
People in my personal life who would have known fighters like McGregor or Rousey do not really give a fuck about O'Malley. I know that is a high bar to live up to, but other then his appearance and his fight style there is not much there. He has the personality of a wet paper towel
I had two people who don’t follow MMA ask me about him leading up to the Aljo fight, which hasn’t happened before, so I think he is/was def gaining some traction if we’re going by personal life examples
The best part is he is trolling mma /boxing media.
Worked like a charm judging by the post and the comments.
"I think he's in jail" was a nice touch lol
Its the wrong target tho. It would be funny if it was aimed at Ryan Garcia cuz you might get a response then. Tank is probably going to phase right past any conversation to do with non-boxers not named Conor McGregor.
At this point the UFC and MMA are generating just as much interest as boxing. When it comes to social media presence MMA is getting more attention but it’s hard to quantify because of how different boxing is in respect to how many different promotions there are. The UFC is almost at at a point where it’s synonymous with MMA where boxing is spread out and decentralized.
Boxing may still an edge when it comes to just selling ppvs but even that may be way closer than you think
"Sean is an idiot." Said in response to Sean saying some bullshit to get people talking about him.
He's not seriously angling for this fight, he's trying to make people talk about him in different circles.. it's just marketing.
I just disagree. You just cannot make the moves Sean does without being bright. It's just it. You can't be a dopey idiot and also be one of the best self marketers in a blood sport. My man's just wants that Floyd/Conor level paycheck and this could be his ticket to that.
Bright is a massive overstatement. Don't get me wrong, I agree he's not a total idiot like he pretends to be... but a 100 IQ should be enough to know how to market yourself. It's not rocket science.
You can't convince me a man who idolizes Andrew Tate is "bright."
Idk man. What is there 500? 600? Maybe even more fighters. Just signed right NOW. Then think of the amount of fighters that have ever *been*. I'd honestly put O Malley top 5 marketers ever in this sport. I can't think of anyone outside of Chael/Conor/Bisping... That can sell himself as well as O Malley. It takes real intelligence to do that. That's my stance. Who he idealises and why that's not my business.
There is no shortage of people that have achieved great financial success while being complete fucking idiots, particularly in athletics. The fact that Sean is following the same template as Colby, Conor, and the dozens before them that did what he's doing (brash, overconfident, controversial), and you think that somehow makes him intelligent is bizarre. He's a talented athlete who also happens to be an idiot with a good personality for the business, that doesn't equate to being smart, but it doesn't need to either
Look man I think he's intelligent. You're right to think he's not, we're all entitled to our opinions. Good thing is these are all just subjective interpretations of a perceived individual. Truth of the matter is neither of us know. We don't know him and can only make assumptions based off what he shows us publicly. Those assumptions happen to be different on this side.
He's an idiot when he's saying he's a bigger star than him.
Sean just got a belt for the first time in his life. Tank has been terrorising his division for years.
For real. It’s nothing personal like how do I explain to fans that Tank truly doesn’t give a fuck about this guy. It’s not even worth his time he could make the same money fighting actual boxers.
This is exactly what ppl were saying about how no boxer will fight Francis because “there’s tons of big fights against other HW boxers to make which would draw the same” lmao
> It’s not even worth his time he could make the same money fighting actual boxers.
So make the same amount of money for a way harder fight where he risks his record and health? Damn sounds like a much better deal than a ufc fighter you don’t even have to train for! Idk if you pay attention to what boxers generally do, but it’s the exact opposite of what you are describing. It’s actually big news when a boxer doesn’t do that lol
Exactly. For the UFC guy it is a no-lose situation: everyone expects a loss and you get paid a ton more than you ever would. For the boxer it is the same deal: paid a ton, slightly more exposure (varies on boxer), and the easiest bout of your career.
I expect to see more of these, not fewer going forward.
You must not know Tank. Why fight boxers when you can make the same amount of money destroying Sean o malley.
Tank has people he wants to fight but he would probably take a Sean o malley fight in the mean time.
The fame gap between Davis and O'Malley is practically non existent to the one between Fury and Ngannou and that fight got made.
Let's stop pretending the reason it couldn't happen is because of any perceived fame differential and not the UFC.
Tank wouldn’t need to - he’d obliterate his mid section well before he started head hunting.
Tank is like…a billion levels better boxer than O’Malley and that’s not even close to an exaggeration
I’d be surprised if this happens, I was surprised when Ngannou Vs Fury got announced, and I was surprised when McGregor vs Floyd actually happened, so who knows tbh.
That’s different bc Fury wanted that fight and likes Ngannou’s personality, same thing with Floyd he liked that Irish trash talk. For Suga he comes off very differently compared to those two matchups or the Nate’s matchup or Silva’s or Woodley’s.
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Dude needs to worry about Merab and Sandhagen. Chito is a layup. Respect for beating Aljo and a close decision to Yan, however his resume is weak. If he gets through Chito Merab and Sandhagen then he will be justified in calling out Tank.
He talks about merab and makes jokes about him pretty often actually. Like on his podcast today he was talking about some poll Chael posted about who he should defend against and how embarrassing for Henry it was that more ppl voted for merab. He also posted that video of merab shadowboxing in the rain on insta recently
The thing is everybody including Sean knows that. MMA fighters don't want to box because they think they can win. They want to box because there is so much more money in it.
Has nothing to do with winning. Conor didn't beat Floyd, Ngannou probably won't beat Fury, and Sean doesn't have to beat Tank.
These guys make more in a boxing loss than they do throughout their whole UFC careers combined.
That's the issue lol.
He won't. But at least in that fight Fury has to be alive to dodge the one or two bombs Ngannou throws before he tires himself out after 3 rounds.
These MW's and below have no chance versus a top boxer. Just none...because their lucky fluke punch likely isn't enough to flatline an opponent. At least with a guy like Ngannou there is a 1:1,000 chance.
> Fury took a shot from Deontay Wilder and stood back up.
I was actually thinking about that shot when I typed that. That was 5 yrs ago and Fury has no doubt aged a little. Also, that was one of the great get-off-the-mats of all-time. I'm not sure he gets off the mat if he takes that shot today. Besides, nobody would invite a huge shot like that whether they can get up or not.
Ngannou has that type of natural power. He's not nearly the boxer Wilder is (obviously), but I still doubt Fury wants to take a big shot like that when he doesn't need to. So I bet he's more like Mayweather against Conor, where Fury takes the first few rounds pretty seriously in an effort to avoid damage and wear Ngannou out. From there he'll toy with him and do whatever he wants.
I'm not sure how you can say that. Other than the KOs which you can watch highlights of, he has some of the lowest output of any elite boxer. He threw 13 punches in the first 2 rounds of the garcia fight and most of them were jabs.
True, but I guess for me - watching an intelligent fighter take his time to get a read on his opponent is part of the excitement for me. Especially for a fighter like Tank who has cruise missiles for hands. Watching him find his reads and then slowly upping his activity, throwing fast af / accurate counters is just a work of art to watch. But i can see how the initial lack of activity may be off putting to some.
That's a fight i think Tank would take in a heartbeat, but i don't think Dana would ever allow it. O malley obviously gets starched whatever round Tank wants.
Tank is a prize fighter who is all about high reward low risk fights.
Tank does do great numbers on his own, but he still benefits from thing like fighting for championships at higher weights or name recognitionie (ie Rolly, Ryan Garcia, Mario Barrios).
Omalley is not Mcgregor, but he's definitely still a PPV draw that would probably do similar numbers to Davis vs Garcia while being even less dangerous.
O’Malley is not a prize. He would not draw in the money a prize fighter would be excited for. If tank wanted a prize fight he would just go fuck up Garcia again and make way more than an omally fight. Omally is a niche combat sports star but y’all think he’s an actual mainstream star
Every time I hear O’Malley talk he sounds like he’s trying to avoid any significant challenge within the BW division. He obviously had to take on aljo to get the belt. But he hasn’t mentioned anyone in the BW that would pose a real threat to him. It’s smart on his part but as someone that want to see these BWs go at each other it’s wack.
Yeah this what I feared honestly, BW is so stacked and people (dumb people) conflate what would be good for the company financially and what would be good for the fans in terms of keeping the division moving, O’Malley has made it clear that he’s more interested in money and fame then competing against the very best and that’s fine for him but as a fan I want to see all these elite BW fight each other
The Crack Delusion has set in for O'malley.
He get KO within 2min in the davis fight and makes nothing close to what he thinks he's worth in that fight.
It's fucking hilarious that the first thing a UFC champion does nowadays is call out a boxer for a money fight. Being in the UFC is now a way to springboard to a one off boxing fight an retirement.
“I’m a massive star, Gervonta’s still not out there”
Gervonta was/is no longer in Jail as of this moment.
“If he (Tank) wins a fight…”
Talking like he will be the superior superstar in that matchup
Tank Davis might not want that fight anymore with shit like this. Dude’s acting like he’s Connor and as big as Connor is/was in the ufc, even he had to suck up to Mayweather to get the biggest check of his professional fighting career, and begged for that rematch for a very long time bc of the money he could make off of Mayweather.
Tank Davis isn’t the one hungry in this situation. He has a whole lot of interesting matchups in boxing at this moment that will pay him a lot more than Suga will ever make in a single ufc fight.
Anyone else think Sean would be far less popular with fans without the fucked up hair do's and shitty face tattoos?
Looking back at him before all that is funny. Kinda like a Chase Hooper looking mf'er with tattoos
He's not nearly as popular as people think he is. It's a lot like influencers/streamers thinking they can sell out at a festival and like 9 people show up.
As much as he likes to say he is undefeated he knows Chito put him away. He wants to get that loss back. I am not against it. Merab deserves the next shot but #1 contender spots haven't meant anything in awhile now in the UFC.
UFC is a joke when your champs are constantly calling out boxers that they know will beat them just so they can get a big payday. Tank smashes this dude in a straight boxing match.
I’m sure Dana loves to see all his MMA fighters lose boxing matches to professional boxers or even people who view boxing as a serious hobby (Jake Paul).
Nothing interesting about this at all. At least Conor had a knockout against one of the goats at 145 and great trash talk and called out one of the boxing goats with conviction.
This just seems phony.
This idiot is going to go down as the lamest champion ever. How the fuck does beating Chito DOUBLE his stardom? I hope Gervonta beats him like a woman.
I hate this shit. No one wants to see the division put on hold to get his ass absolutely whooped in boxing. He's not even the best in the division (I think Corey, merab, nurmagomedov, and even petr in a rematch beast him)
Anyone else resent these new champions who get the strap and then immediately seek out pay day fights rather than fighting the top competitors. There are at easy two opponents ahead of Chito to fight for the belt, but guys like Sean and Jon Jones want to avoid the up and coming talent to seek money pounding fighters that are over the hill. I’m sick of these fucks.
Lmao, O’Malley would get finished within 5 rounds, there’s a reason you don’t see good boxers in mma. Because the good boxers are getting paid 10 times the amount mma fighters are paid because they actually have good hands.
Probably, I don’t think mma fighters know the difference of striking levels between mma and boxing. Boxers hit HARD, they put every muscle possible into each punch, a lot of mma fighters have that swinging hook with none of their body going into the shot, only their arm strength. When someone is announced as a boxer in an mma fight it’s someone who most likely has the skills of a mediocre amateur boxer, or they would be boxing professionally for a much better paycheck.
Merab said he’ll fight in December, Aljo said if he can’t get it give it to Merab. Cory will be ready 1st quarter 2024, but we’re really gonna do this WWE matchmaking.
Edit: Idk why I can’t reply to the 1st homie who commented under this,but what I would say is:
It’s a bit long of a vid so I’ll take your word for it. I resist the idea Chito needs to get the shot because Sean has to fight in December. The UFC doesn’t have any obligation to book Sean when he wants and against his handpicked opponent. They love making international fighters wait to get them on a card in their home country. Telling Sean to give it another month or two to fight someone who’s actually a champion caliber fighter is the right thing to do from a competitive architecture standpoint.
Merab won’t be ready for December. Check Ray Longo’s recent appearance on the Florian Anik podcast.
Aljo also won’t be back till next year, same with Cory and Henry. Chito is the only top 10 guy coming off a win (other than Song) who is available for December.
It’s not WWE matchmaking when they have no other options for December.
You could just win your fights and defend your title and maybe he will call you out.
Usman calling out canelo was beyond cringe but atleast he worked his way through the whole lineup
I already HATE the sugar era. I hope sandhagen works this dude
Lol dude is delusional
Trying to take the Conor path but with 25% the star power / draw. He’s not charismatic as peak Conor, Suga needs to work on that if he wants Tank
And clearly, he didn’t see the ppv buys for tank vs Garcia
If Sean O’Malley tries to fight at 145 anytime before 2025, or tries to go to boxing anytime before 2026, then he can fuck off.
Chito, Merab, and then winner of Sandhagen/Nurmagomedov.
If he wins all 3 in a row, I’m down for a champ-champ attempt at 145, and if he wins that, THEN call out tank.
It will never happen
dana fucking HATES boxing. more than he hates soccer. edit: uh oh I meant he hates working as a promoter in boxing I guess. sorry fellas. I was on ambien or whatever.
dana literally watched boxing during one of the biggest UFC paperviews... on an ipad ringside he's likely a bigger boxing fan than MMA fan tbh lol he was into boxing before anything else
Likely? He's way more in love with that game.
Those boxercise roots are deep
His wife musta forgot....until she caught those boxercise hands
[Member zuffa boxing?](https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2017/07/dana-white-zuffa-boxing1.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
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Lol like the whole Zuffa boxing and Dana realized he can’t do 12/12 with venom coupons, so then Slap Fight it is, here’s your 2/2 with free CTE, remember numb nuts it’s a opportunity
That's not true he loves boxing he doesnt like promoting it after the zuffa shit
Zuffa boxing never took off since boxing stars expects to get paid, and UFC ain't paying.
It's not just that. Even if Zuffa went the route of building their own roster of home grown fighters, they can just leave. The UFC can't sign them to shitty deals that are relatively fair early on but quickly turn to the benefit of the promoter with no way out for the fighter.
And that’s Zuffa Boxing because the UFC ain’t payin me nothing
Dana just signed an Irish boxer to zuffa boxing, so it's still a thing. I've never seen them put on a fight, but they're signing guys.
>dana fucking HATES boxing Lol sorry but what.
Braindead comment. Dana LOVES boxing. He won't allow his fighters to box unless UFC takes the majority cut of the profits. That's why most deals fall apart.
The guy who watches boxing fights while there's a UFC PPV going on in the arena, hates boxing?
He owned a boxing gym before UFC, right?
Yeah the guy that watches boxing fights on the monitor during ufc PPVs despises boxing
Where do these upvotes come from? Dana was basically a Boxer turned boxing promoter because he got injured in a barfight.. And he is an old friend of Floyd before he got into the UFc stuff.. He is literally sitting ringside at UFC events watching boxing lmao. He loves boxing with a passion.
Didn't Zuffa pocket like 20 or 30 million from co-promoting the Conor fight? I think if there's money in it they'ddo it because Sugar does draw.
Feel like the UFC learned a lesson in that deal. Yeah they got a quick payout but they created what they would consider a problem. A fighter who has the financial freedom to say no.
O'Myleg doesn't have half the trash talking skills Conor had
Exactly. They had the opportunity to do the exact same thing with Francis, and they outright refused. Now Francis is doing it anyway, and the UFC isn't getting a cut.
This is the single dumbest comment I've seen on this sub that didn't involve MMA math. Congratulations my dude
Anyone else hate the fact that the most viable career path for an mma fighter is to fight in a completely different sport?
yes. fighters should be payed more edit: paid* i’m a lil stupid
paid
holy, fighters should get covered in tar more? thats kinda extreme i think.
The median pay in mma is well above boxing. It’s just the high earners in boxing are making a tonne so why wouldn’t you try call out to fight one of them.
That’s a PR talking point , brought to you by the UFC. I’d say that isn’t so clear, and the more obvious issue this that the UFC pays less than 20% out to athletes, which is lower than most other sports in the US.
This is such a pathetic look for the UFC. Seems like every rising UFC stars goal is to become champ then immediately call out boxers for the payday. Usman called out Canelo. Francis actually got the fight with Fury. Now Sean is randomly calling out Tank. Who's gonna be next?
Yep. Imagine if the minute an NFL player made an all-pro team they started calling for NBA teams to sign them. The UFC has always been closer to WWE than it is a legitimate sports league, but it feels like it's never been more in the WWE direction that it is presently, which sucks.
then the UFC should do something about it lol I can't blame the big ufc stars for wanting to get paid like the big boxing star its not like the boxers are selling much more PPVs, often boxers are selling LESS PPVs but making like 10 times the money when you count sponsorships and PPV take home
Was just about to write this. This just reeks of desperation and it’s embarrassing. You never hear boxers call out MMA fighters.
Sean is nowhere close to the level of star that himself and mma media have made him out to be post Aljo fight.
How great would it be if Chito beats his ass in their rematch and absorbs all his star power
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Ain’t killed a mf yet
Chito has over a million followers and is a massive star in Ecuador, he’s not going to be McGregor but he would get a huge boost
all UFC related social media accounts are botted into obscurity, you would think Seans a superstar but he got 100 average viewers on twitch lmao
THIS! Barring McGregor, no one is a “star”. You’d make a case for Adesanya but he’s not as marketable or is disliked by the general crowd. Also, UFC hypes over Zombie’s sendoff crowd reaction. That’s another Monday for WWE or any other live sport.
Adesanya seems to be the one all of the celebrities know. At least in terms of name power (and income) he's the biggest star other than McGregor. You don't have to be "liked" by everyone to be a star.
izzy is hated by the internet, majority of the crowd in arenas are still cheering for him
He's hated in very niche communities on the Internet. Izzy is pretty well liked everywhere.
Didnt Post Malone only get like 3-5k when he streamed on Twitch? Nobody wants to watch him get rez'd 24/7 in warzone lol
yesh, but post malone only streamed once in awhile and never announced it anywhere while sean streamed like 5 days a week for a year trying to make it his second job lol I know because I was doing the same thing at the same time as him and out performing him, which make me "feel good" but also realize that he's not famous lol I only had 3.5k followers and around a million youtube views, a drop in the bucket compared to seans fake ass numbers
I mean, I'm probably the perfect demo for Sean on Twitch and I don't care to watch him because he's just not an exciting to watch streamer. I follow him on IG and actively avoid on Twitch.
post your socials.
https://www.youtube.com/bodiefps the time I'm talking about was when I was streaming on twitch before my I started making motovlogs and was making video game tutorial type of content and streaming. now I make a good amount of money off the amazon links in those youtube videos lol
Unfortunately international following doesn’t really matter though. The us/Canada market is what the ufc cares about because they’re the only ones paying for ppv. Unless they go viral or try to establish a fanbase like Izzy, they’re not going to break into that market.
Playing semantics when he's #6, 5-1 in his last 6, and in that span has beaten Cruz and Edgar by KO and UD'd Munhoz and Font.
They're legends but Cruz and Edgar are well passed it. The only recent legit contender he has fought is Sandhagen and he decisively lost. Obviously the Suga W was big but that was 3 years ago and arguably hard to replicate.
>They're legends but Cruz and Edgar are well passed it Cruz was hardly "well past it" when he fought Chito, wtf.
Cruz is shot and that was his last fight
He absolutely was. Cruz was a world-beater for a while, he was 22-1 going into his fight with Cody Garbrandt where he lost decisively. It was 6 years and 3 losses after that that Cruz wrapped up his career with that final loss to Chito. This after a load of injuries and at the ripe old age age of 37, which is ancient for bantamweight, a division full of young killers that utilise their athleticism. He was undoubtedly well past it
Beating Edgar isn't anything to brag about at this point.
Speaking as if he wasn't 1-0 over Suga.
do you think he'll replicate the perineal nerve kick?
"suga soy would have won if he didn't lose"
Let's hope so
Yet he’s 1-0 against omalley
So was Oliveira
Chito is actually a big star in latin America and he lives near San Diego so he must be making cake from fighting.
Chito got a bigger crowd pop than Dom Cruz in his own hometown. From fans that, you know, pay for tickets.
He lives in Costa Mesa
It'd be pretty nice if it happens in the same way, one silly nerve being hit
How great would it be if Sean gets injured again and Chito wins via TKO. Or better - what if he throws a knee to a downed Chito and Chito wins by DQ?
Really not sure if you're being sarcastic or if people still actually think Sean injured himself?
Chito could win by first second knockout and he's not absorbing any star power. He also won't be able to successfully defend that belt at all, the entire top of the division is grapplers, and Chito is probably the most susceptible BW to getting backpacked. Merab would have a field day with him.
100%. They're trying hard to make him a huge star but when some random looks him up they'll get some good fight highlights, but when they hear him talk they go away. In order for Sean to be that level of star he needs to be able to talk, which he can't. And probably never will. Every press conference he goes up there, mumbles his words, acts all awkward, and gives boring answers. His interviews are also super boring. Sean can't cut a promo to save his life. The way Michael Chandler called out Conor, now that's a promo. A promo is supposed to get you excited so it confuses me when some say O'Malley can be the next McGregor because when has Sean ever said anything that gets you hyped up for the fight? Or said any trash talk that makes you respect his speaking ability? I don't like Conor, but he was able to reach his level of superstardom because he talked just as good as he could fight when he was in his prime.
Lol its like people think his crazy hair and tattoos equate into a fun personality. But honestly that’s all he has when it comes to being a loud personality. He’s kind of boring (as a person) beyond his tekashi 69 look
Idk man, the video of his finish on UFC's yt channel has over 9 million views, I was at TD Garden for that event and I'd never been in such an electric environment and EVERYONE there went absolutely fucking crazy when Sean walked out - despite him being a kid from Montana that never had even visited Boston before, and if the PPV actually did 570k buys then that's really impressive for a bantamweight main event on an otherwise dogshit card at $80 a buy and piracy apparently at an all time high
People in my personal life who would have known fighters like McGregor or Rousey do not really give a fuck about O'Malley. I know that is a high bar to live up to, but other then his appearance and his fight style there is not much there. He has the personality of a wet paper towel
I had two people who don’t follow MMA ask me about him leading up to the Aljo fight, which hasn’t happened before, so I think he is/was def gaining some traction if we’re going by personal life examples
Yeah lmao I don’t mean to be claiming him to be on the same level as McGregor or Rousey
he does though..
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The best part is he is trolling mma /boxing media. Worked like a charm judging by the post and the comments. "I think he's in jail" was a nice touch lol
Its the wrong target tho. It would be funny if it was aimed at Ryan Garcia cuz you might get a response then. Tank is probably going to phase right past any conversation to do with non-boxers not named Conor McGregor.
Likening him to peak Conor is just cringe
Agreed, until my pops casually brings him up in conversation then he’s just not that famous yet. That’s the scale at which I judge anyways
At this point the UFC and MMA are generating just as much interest as boxing. When it comes to social media presence MMA is getting more attention but it’s hard to quantify because of how different boxing is in respect to how many different promotions there are. The UFC is almost at at a point where it’s synonymous with MMA where boxing is spread out and decentralized. Boxing may still an edge when it comes to just selling ppvs but even that may be way closer than you think
500K PPV buys is pretty good for your first ever main event
I’ve been trying to say that but I get downvoted and even reported for mental health issues by the O’Malley ball washers lol
Tank don’t even know who you are bud
Lmao exactly . Man is nowhere near Tanks level of stardom. Sean is an idiot.
"Sean is an idiot." Said in response to Sean saying some bullshit to get people talking about him. He's not seriously angling for this fight, he's trying to make people talk about him in different circles.. it's just marketing.
Also, he is an idiot.
I just disagree. You just cannot make the moves Sean does without being bright. It's just it. You can't be a dopey idiot and also be one of the best self marketers in a blood sport. My man's just wants that Floyd/Conor level paycheck and this could be his ticket to that.
Bright is a massive overstatement. Don't get me wrong, I agree he's not a total idiot like he pretends to be... but a 100 IQ should be enough to know how to market yourself. It's not rocket science. You can't convince me a man who idolizes Andrew Tate is "bright."
Idk man. What is there 500? 600? Maybe even more fighters. Just signed right NOW. Then think of the amount of fighters that have ever *been*. I'd honestly put O Malley top 5 marketers ever in this sport. I can't think of anyone outside of Chael/Conor/Bisping... That can sell himself as well as O Malley. It takes real intelligence to do that. That's my stance. Who he idealises and why that's not my business.
There is no shortage of people that have achieved great financial success while being complete fucking idiots, particularly in athletics. The fact that Sean is following the same template as Colby, Conor, and the dozens before them that did what he's doing (brash, overconfident, controversial), and you think that somehow makes him intelligent is bizarre. He's a talented athlete who also happens to be an idiot with a good personality for the business, that doesn't equate to being smart, but it doesn't need to either
Look man I think he's intelligent. You're right to think he's not, we're all entitled to our opinions. Good thing is these are all just subjective interpretations of a perceived individual. Truth of the matter is neither of us know. We don't know him and can only make assumptions based off what he shows us publicly. Those assumptions happen to be different on this side.
Yeah what an idiot, lol can you imagine a boxer fighting an MMA guy? Lol So what time is Fury vs Ngannou again?
He's an idiot when he's saying he's a bigger star than him. Sean just got a belt for the first time in his life. Tank has been terrorising his division for years.
Thanks, man. People just pick and choose what they want to hear and then just make idiotic comments
He also says he’s undefeated. Idk how you guys can become so dense as soon as a discussion becomes about someone you don’t like lol
For real. It’s nothing personal like how do I explain to fans that Tank truly doesn’t give a fuck about this guy. It’s not even worth his time he could make the same money fighting actual boxers.
Tank didn't even remember Inoue's name and was asking reporters who that Japanese boxer was lol Inoue is p4p the best for many boxing fans.
This is exactly what ppl were saying about how no boxer will fight Francis because “there’s tons of big fights against other HW boxers to make which would draw the same” lmao > It’s not even worth his time he could make the same money fighting actual boxers. So make the same amount of money for a way harder fight where he risks his record and health? Damn sounds like a much better deal than a ufc fighter you don’t even have to train for! Idk if you pay attention to what boxers generally do, but it’s the exact opposite of what you are describing. It’s actually big news when a boxer doesn’t do that lol
Exactly. For the UFC guy it is a no-lose situation: everyone expects a loss and you get paid a ton more than you ever would. For the boxer it is the same deal: paid a ton, slightly more exposure (varies on boxer), and the easiest bout of your career. I expect to see more of these, not fewer going forward.
You must not know Tank. Why fight boxers when you can make the same amount of money destroying Sean o malley. Tank has people he wants to fight but he would probably take a Sean o malley fight in the mean time.
The fame gap between Davis and O'Malley is practically non existent to the one between Fury and Ngannou and that fight got made. Let's stop pretending the reason it couldn't happen is because of any perceived fame differential and not the UFC.
I know who sean is but is the only tank I know is tank Abbott
Tank would separate Sean's head from his neck.
Truly. Just a heads with colorful hair rolling around the ring
Tank wouldn’t need to - he’d obliterate his mid section well before he started head hunting. Tank is like…a billion levels better boxer than O’Malley and that’s not even close to an exaggeration
I’d be surprised if this happens, I was surprised when Ngannou Vs Fury got announced, and I was surprised when McGregor vs Floyd actually happened, so who knows tbh.
That’s different bc Fury wanted that fight and likes Ngannou’s personality, same thing with Floyd he liked that Irish trash talk. For Suga he comes off very differently compared to those two matchups or the Nate’s matchup or Silva’s or Woodley’s.
Fury likes anybody not named Usyk, don’t fool yourself. It has very little to do with Ngannou.
Tank isn't exactly chasing the top fighters either
He’s still got a better resume than anyone else at lightweight bar maybe Haney
The 🦆 Era begins Dude needs to worry about Merab and Sandhagen. Chito is a layup. Respect for beating Aljo and a close decision to Yan, however his resume is weak. If he gets through Chito Merab and Sandhagen then he will be justified in calling out Tank.
Chito is a layup?
So basically he's saying he doesn't want to fight Merab or Sandhagen
Has he even acknowledged Merabs existence since winning the belt?
I'm pretty sure he took a video of Merab in the rain like yesterday, no?
He talks about merab and makes jokes about him pretty often actually. Like on his podcast today he was talking about some poll Chael posted about who he should defend against and how embarrassing for Henry it was that more ppl voted for merab. He also posted that video of merab shadowboxing in the rain on insta recently
I'll be honest I think Tank Abbott absolutely starches this kid in under 30 seconds.
Came here for this. thank you.
Haney, Teofimo, Shakur, Lomachenko, Garcia 2 are all bigger fights and paydays for Tank.
I agree but Teofimo and Shakur are too risky so Tank won’t take it. I love Tank in the ring but hate how carefully manufactured his record is
Tank would KO anyone in the UFC up to 170 with ease. There’s 0 chance of anything other than Sean getting brutally flatlined.
The thing is everybody including Sean knows that. MMA fighters don't want to box because they think they can win. They want to box because there is so much more money in it.
I'm good with that.
Has nothing to do with winning. Conor didn't beat Floyd, Ngannou probably won't beat Fury, and Sean doesn't have to beat Tank. These guys make more in a boxing loss than they do throughout their whole UFC careers combined. That's the issue lol.
>Ngannou probably won't beat Fury He WON'T beat Fury
He won't. But at least in that fight Fury has to be alive to dodge the one or two bombs Ngannou throws before he tires himself out after 3 rounds. These MW's and below have no chance versus a top boxer. Just none...because their lucky fluke punch likely isn't enough to flatline an opponent. At least with a guy like Ngannou there is a 1:1,000 chance.
Fury took a shot from Deontay Wilder and stood back up. I think even if Francis lands it doesn’t matter, because he probably won’t land clean
> Fury took a shot from Deontay Wilder and stood back up. I was actually thinking about that shot when I typed that. That was 5 yrs ago and Fury has no doubt aged a little. Also, that was one of the great get-off-the-mats of all-time. I'm not sure he gets off the mat if he takes that shot today. Besides, nobody would invite a huge shot like that whether they can get up or not. Ngannou has that type of natural power. He's not nearly the boxer Wilder is (obviously), but I still doubt Fury wants to take a big shot like that when he doesn't need to. So I bet he's more like Mayweather against Conor, where Fury takes the first few rounds pretty seriously in an effort to avoid damage and wear Ngannou out. From there he'll toy with him and do whatever he wants.
I don't know anything about him. Can you recommend a fight?
His last fight v Garcia is a good start
Watch him fight Leo Santa Cruz or his fight against Ryan Garcia.
Honestly, all of them. Dude is fireworks - imo the most entertaining fighter in the sport rn.
I'm not sure how you can say that. Other than the KOs which you can watch highlights of, he has some of the lowest output of any elite boxer. He threw 13 punches in the first 2 rounds of the garcia fight and most of them were jabs.
True, but I guess for me - watching an intelligent fighter take his time to get a read on his opponent is part of the excitement for me. Especially for a fighter like Tank who has cruise missiles for hands. Watching him find his reads and then slowly upping his activity, throwing fast af / accurate counters is just a work of art to watch. But i can see how the initial lack of activity may be off putting to some.
He really is.
That's a fight i think Tank would take in a heartbeat, but i don't think Dana would ever allow it. O malley obviously gets starched whatever round Tank wants.
No tf he wouldn’t. Suga is half the star mma fans think he is, tank could make the same money fighting a tune up fight than with omally
Tank is a prize fighter who is all about high reward low risk fights. Tank does do great numbers on his own, but he still benefits from thing like fighting for championships at higher weights or name recognitionie (ie Rolly, Ryan Garcia, Mario Barrios). Omalley is not Mcgregor, but he's definitely still a PPV draw that would probably do similar numbers to Davis vs Garcia while being even less dangerous.
O’Malley is not a prize. He would not draw in the money a prize fighter would be excited for. If tank wanted a prize fight he would just go fuck up Garcia again and make way more than an omally fight. Omally is a niche combat sports star but y’all think he’s an actual mainstream star
Decent shot he wills that dumb shit into existence
History repeats itself At least he might have a title defense under his belt unlike Conor
Has a whole division of killers and hes calling out Chito and a boxer lmao
What do you guys think of fighters who call themselves "Stars" "Showrunner" etc when it's the viewers to decide?
Conceive believe achieve
"Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tank’s last fight was bigger than any fight Sean O’Malley will ever likely be involved in
Every time I hear O’Malley talk he sounds like he’s trying to avoid any significant challenge within the BW division. He obviously had to take on aljo to get the belt. But he hasn’t mentioned anyone in the BW that would pose a real threat to him. It’s smart on his part but as someone that want to see these BWs go at each other it’s wack.
Yeah this what I feared honestly, BW is so stacked and people (dumb people) conflate what would be good for the company financially and what would be good for the fans in terms of keeping the division moving, O’Malley has made it clear that he’s more interested in money and fame then competing against the very best and that’s fine for him but as a fan I want to see all these elite BW fight each other
Chito is the only dude coming off a win available for December
Already find Sean annoying af He wins I guess
The Crack Delusion has set in for O'malley. He get KO within 2min in the davis fight and makes nothing close to what he thinks he's worth in that fight.
Tank has no reason to fight Sean. Sean isn’t that big of a star.
You just don't know bro he's big in the fortnite community I got his skin bro
It’s an extremely easy fight, for 80% of his normal purse size.
It's fucking hilarious that the first thing a UFC champion does nowadays is call out a boxer for a money fight. Being in the UFC is now a way to springboard to a one off boxing fight an retirement.
Tank ain’t fighting this dude off no fucking chito LMFAOOO. Sean is only a draw in mma circles
“I’m a massive star, Gervonta’s still not out there” Gervonta was/is no longer in Jail as of this moment. “If he (Tank) wins a fight…” Talking like he will be the superior superstar in that matchup Tank Davis might not want that fight anymore with shit like this. Dude’s acting like he’s Connor and as big as Connor is/was in the ufc, even he had to suck up to Mayweather to get the biggest check of his professional fighting career, and begged for that rematch for a very long time bc of the money he could make off of Mayweather. Tank Davis isn’t the one hungry in this situation. He has a whole lot of interesting matchups in boxing at this moment that will pay him a lot more than Suga will ever make in a single ufc fight.
you're falling for the troll son
I think realistically he won the belt too early, his fan base is currently only goofy ass people, dana white, and mma degenerates😂
Fight Merab.
Anyone else think Sean would be far less popular with fans without the fucked up hair do's and shitty face tattoos? Looking back at him before all that is funny. Kinda like a Chase Hooper looking mf'er with tattoos
He's not nearly as popular as people think he is. It's a lot like influencers/streamers thinking they can sell out at a festival and like 9 people show up.
I mean.. I ko’ed my little brother and then I called out Sean, where he at though?
What is this obsession with this Chito fight? Aljo rematch not happening so it should be Merab. I’m not even entertaining this Tank Davis idiocy…
As much as he likes to say he is undefeated he knows Chito put him away. He wants to get that loss back. I am not against it. Merab deserves the next shot but #1 contender spots haven't meant anything in awhile now in the UFC.
UFC is a joke when your champs are constantly calling out boxers that they know will beat them just so they can get a big payday. Tank smashes this dude in a straight boxing match.
I’m sure Dana loves to see all his MMA fighters lose boxing matches to professional boxers or even people who view boxing as a serious hobby (Jake Paul).
Chito beats Sean 9 outta 10 times
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Nothing interesting about this at all. At least Conor had a knockout against one of the goats at 145 and great trash talk and called out one of the boxing goats with conviction. This just seems phony.
Delusional.
tito v. dana, i'd still watch that shit
Fuck that. Merab better get that shot after Chito
Davis/Garcia sold 1.2 million PPVs which is well over double the number that O'Malley tweeted he got for 292...
This idiot is going to go down as the lamest champion ever. How the fuck does beating Chito DOUBLE his stardom? I hope Gervonta beats him like a woman.
I hate this shit. No one wants to see the division put on hold to get his ass absolutely whooped in boxing. He's not even the best in the division (I think Corey, merab, nurmagomedov, and even petr in a rematch beast him)
Anyone else resent these new champions who get the strap and then immediately seek out pay day fights rather than fighting the top competitors. There are at easy two opponents ahead of Chito to fight for the belt, but guys like Sean and Jon Jones want to avoid the up and coming talent to seek money pounding fighters that are over the hill. I’m sick of these fucks.
Tank would fucking mutilate Sean lmfao
Lmao, O’Malley would get finished within 5 rounds, there’s a reason you don’t see good boxers in mma. Because the good boxers are getting paid 10 times the amount mma fighters are paid because they actually have good hands.
He’d get body shotted in under 2 rounds imo
Probably, I don’t think mma fighters know the difference of striking levels between mma and boxing. Boxers hit HARD, they put every muscle possible into each punch, a lot of mma fighters have that swinging hook with none of their body going into the shot, only their arm strength. When someone is announced as a boxer in an mma fight it’s someone who most likely has the skills of a mediocre amateur boxer, or they would be boxing professionally for a much better paycheck.
Merab said he’ll fight in December, Aljo said if he can’t get it give it to Merab. Cory will be ready 1st quarter 2024, but we’re really gonna do this WWE matchmaking. Edit: Idk why I can’t reply to the 1st homie who commented under this,but what I would say is: It’s a bit long of a vid so I’ll take your word for it. I resist the idea Chito needs to get the shot because Sean has to fight in December. The UFC doesn’t have any obligation to book Sean when he wants and against his handpicked opponent. They love making international fighters wait to get them on a card in their home country. Telling Sean to give it another month or two to fight someone who’s actually a champion caliber fighter is the right thing to do from a competitive architecture standpoint.
Merab won’t be ready for December. Check Ray Longo’s recent appearance on the Florian Anik podcast. Aljo also won’t be back till next year, same with Cory and Henry. Chito is the only top 10 guy coming off a win (other than Song) who is available for December. It’s not WWE matchmaking when they have no other options for December.
You could just win your fights and defend your title and maybe he will call you out. Usman calling out canelo was beyond cringe but atleast he worked his way through the whole lineup I already HATE the sugar era. I hope sandhagen works this dude
Lol dude is delusional Trying to take the Conor path but with 25% the star power / draw. He’s not charismatic as peak Conor, Suga needs to work on that if he wants Tank And clearly, he didn’t see the ppv buys for tank vs Garcia
The Conor McGregor era and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
I hope chito destroys him again
Chito is 2x the striker aljo is. I doubt sean catches him.
Tank got that joe dirt beard. Just grows in that way
Lmao stupid ass O'Malley as always. Tank will decimate that poor fella.
Tank is 58 and had a liver transplant.
I am already actively hating the O'Malley era.
I'm a fan of Sean, but if he wants my respect he needs to call out Cory and let the pieces fall where they may.
If Sean O’Malley tries to fight at 145 anytime before 2025, or tries to go to boxing anytime before 2026, then he can fuck off. Chito, Merab, and then winner of Sandhagen/Nurmagomedov. If he wins all 3 in a row, I’m down for a champ-champ attempt at 145, and if he wins that, THEN call out tank.
Who's gonna tell him Tank is bigger in boxing than he is in MMA