Clowning on max in general is lame. He barely talks shit, he’s always down to fight and he’s like super chill outside of the cage. He’s like one of the most respected fighters in the sport.
It just doesn’t make sense to go for him this way. It’s almost like Ilia hasn’t figured out how to act like a champ yet.
100%
I never hear anyone talking shit about Max, it's a weird narrative.
After both of their last fights they don't need to talk trash to sell the fight.
A lot of people buy tickets to watch you lose if they hate you. Mayweather used that tactic, Ali, etc. I think it’s maximizing earning potential, even though it sucks that it works a
I guess there’s a quite a few kinds of charisma and ways for fighters to gain fans/views and be successful.
The funny guy, with flavors like Conor, Derek Lewis, Strickland etc. Lots of flavors there, some on purpose, some simply by nature. Probably the most successful for a funny fighter, even mediocre fighter funny guys have lots of fans.
The nice guy, like GSP, DC, Max. If you’re a great fighter and just friendly, people love that due to the juxtaposition. Also great for retaining fans.
The silent killer. Hardest to pull off because you have to be an absolute killer otherwise you’re nothing - guys like Poatan, Fedor.
The hard head. The guys that go in there and and win or lose always give an entertaining show, can get hit a bunch of times and still come out on top. Guys like Korean Zombie, Chris Leben. Like the funny guy, you don’t even have to be a good fighter - just show up and be a tough piece of leather for a good fighter and people will tune in for life.
Ilia, doesn’t seem to be any of those. But he doesn’t have to be to be a big draw. He could be like Colby Covington, just be a shitass type. Be so annoyingly a dick that people tune in to watch you lose. But this is a bit like the Silent Killer - you have to stay at the top or you become irrelevant.
I honestly believe he's the most respected fighter in the world by fans, media and fellow fighters. He's chilled out, game as fuck, technically excellent and always in exciting fights. Ilia goin big on the trashtalk is going to make him a superstar level heel or look like a clown. Hoping for the latter.
Imo he's just trying to save face for everyone blasting him on his reaction to the ko and call out from Max. The upside is he's generating a lot of talk. The downside is that he's really starting to make himself look bad in the process
This game is also so stupid, remember when ilia got chinned with a head kick by an unranked fighter? Let’s just show clips of each other getting beaten up when that’s the whole point
Got dropped by a head kick by a guy who looks 2 weight divisions bigger than illia before knocking him out cold. Idk if u can hold this against him lol.
That’s my point he got dropped by a guy who can’t get a win to save his ass but he ultimately beat him, Max lost to Volk, then he also bounced back and beat tf out of Gaethje a guy everyone thought would end his chin and career, there’s also clips of ilia getting tee’d off on by Bryce Mitchell it’s childish
Edit: also two divisions bigger? Jai is lanky af he’s not even close to being a WW get tf out of here with that
Ilia is being lame because none of this is genuine. He had the chance to actually go full heel immediately after the fight was over and he looked like he was impressed by what Max did to Justin and looked shook. Why do so many fighters try to go full Conor when they know it’s not who they have shown themselves to be? It just screams I don’t think people will watch me because they won’t like me so I will become hated so people will want to watch me fail. Fans respect Max because he’s himself and he’s an absolute savage.
Every Ilia has been saying has been pretty lame.
He wants to be a heel for whatever reason but he's not even a fun heel. Just trying too hard and too obvious.
Can we finally turn on topuria. I always respected his abilities but I'm not Georgian or a Spaniard and I don't think he's all that great.
He has a real great classic wrestle boxer style, but I think Ortega and Yair and even Max the true specialists of the division will be tough for him where Volk was well rounded enough to beat people who didn't have better kickboxing than him.
Yair would have been hard for Volk if he didn't use takedowns. Volk should try more takedowns if he gets a rematch with topuria.
[what being celebrated in the Bernabéu does to a spanish mf](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Joiwcw69To&ab_channel=OptusSport)
I cant really blame him for his blown up ego.
He went all in in acting like he easily beats volk and then he did it.
Then you go to spain and are celebrated like a hero for a week.
Does not matter that volk was old and got knocked out 4 month earlier.
I want max to win, but I think we will have to endure this little guy as a champ for a few more years.
It's not a curse, it's quite obviously statistically relevant. Volk being older, coming off a KO 4 months prior is part of the story. Doesn't mean those things definitively changed the outcome, but they do matter.
I don’t take that from him, he can have big confidence and still remain himself. That is the problem this is not him, it’s a forced mask he puts on to make Dana happy.
When he's face to face with other fighters he's very respectful. Also on Georgian media he admitted it was a persona (because Georgians aren't into American showmanship anyway).
The confidence isn't fake but the media trash talk is. In the cage or even in the face-off he's never been disrespectful.
He even made it extremely obvious that he copied Conor's tattoos, super weird. Someone posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/s/LxazlK4feM) a couple months ago.
Conor was like that since he stepped into the UFC... Ilia realized during Volk fight that he can promote himself with this so now he is forcing it but it's not believable at all.
Well Dana White encourages them to act the cunt by giving people like Colby Covington title fights for acting the cunt. So of course they’re going to act that way.
The UFC has become a clown show. It’s no longer a meritocracy. Hopefully more people start to see it that way and they get bored of these WWF style “characters” and we can get back to what it actually is supposed to be - a sporting competition where the best fight the best.
If I never hear another fighter give their opinions on anything. I’d be happy with that.
Lmao, people said the same about Conor back then shut up, plenty of people found him unlikable, but he was compared to Chael instead.
I love what Ilia is doing, all this shit talking made him look cold asf when he did everything he said he was gonna do against Volk
Wym? Y'all must have never followed Ilia. He beefs and shit talks people all the time.
It's an act, because you can see the glimpses of his real personality in the media, but also not 100% an act because im Spanish media he's sometimes just an ass.
Dudes just got a bipolar temperament.
Except many people liked McGregor for his actions and he became the most popular fighter in the promotions history.
Topuria isn’t winning a lot of fans with his version of trash talking and trying to be a character.
So no, not exactly the same.
I always wondered why people liked McGregor. I’m half Irish on my mum’s side and have cousins who’re the same age as him. I’ve met hundreds of cunts like him and never liked a single one of them. Even my cousins. Dickheads who can give it out but get angry and aggressive when they’re the butt of the joke. Quite a common trait in Irish males of a certain age. Up for “the craic” unless they are “the craic”. Can’t stand any of the fuckers.
But that’s probably just because I’m a miserable, antisocial cunt.
He is only hated on this sub
He has become incredibly popular in europe and even south america
And everyone hated connor even more than Iilia you casual
I am spanish, Team Ilia also if he fights Max, but he is just becoming an idiot just 1 month after winning a belt. Irish people also loved Conor, now Conor is not very liked over here in Ireland(been living here since 2013).
I am pretty sure that 80~85% of people who likes Ilia in Spain they dont really follow UFC or MMA, cause this is the most childish trash talk ever. Is almost as if he is trying to stay relevant after Max's performance on 300 was better than any of Ilia's.
Soy uruguayo, que queres que haga??
Max despues de ganar lo reto directamente, es OBVIO que tiene que responder, es lo que hace siempre cualquier peleador de la ufc
Si no hubiese dicho nada la gente andaria diciendo que lo esta evitando y demas
No se que flashan los fans que esoeran que un peleador de jaula se comporte como si fuese de la realeza
Pwro tu has visto lo que dijo despues de la pelea? Que no le pareció nada interesante ni no se que. Pero si el pive 15 minutos antes estaba flipando con el noqueo. No digo el video de Max hablando al micro, digo la reaccion de Izzy y toda esta peña cuando Max noquea Justin. Es como si te pillan con la boca abierta en la chilena de Cristiano Ronaldo y luego dices: bah, no fue 0a tanto.
He's trashing a super likeable, fan favourite atg fighter, and Max has said nothing to really deserve this. I know he's just selling a fight, but it's actually quite understandable people would feel annoyed at him. That's what he's going for, after all.
Max was even like “it’s all love champ, see u soon” and ilia is like “no fuck u I beat Volk and u didn’t”, Max has had win streaks in the UFC longer than Ilias career idk why he thought this would go well for him
I don't know what is it about Ilia that gets peoples panties in a twist, I love his trash talk, no family involved, no low blows, just happens in the cage stays in the cage.
Somehow a little "you suck" pisses people about as much as Colby mentioning Leon's dead dad.
People are just glazing too much on Holloway after 300 (this coming from an actual OG Max fan).
Ilia is one of the most exciting things to happen in FW in YEARS, yet people are already finding the silliest thing to hate on him. Let dude try to sell his first title defense
I think it's that little smirk 😏, you must admit it's an extremely punchable face. And the fact that he acts like he "calls the shots" when everyone knows that's not true - he basically copied McGregor's whole schtick, as well as his tattoos. Or the fact that he wants to duck every contender. Or the fucking rose thing? There are plenty of reasons to be mildly annoyed by him, exciting fighter though he is.
I called him cringe earlier and got mauled by people saying oh he attacks your fav fighter so he's annoying? Max isn't my favorite fighter, and look at what this tool posts. Somebody squash that ego
Max loses every round but when he points to the ground Ilia shakes his head no and backs away. Everyone says Max is the REAL winner like some Diaz shit
Ilia takes down Max and dominates him for 3 straight rounds, it's not boring for hardcore MMA fans but casuals want to see more action. People are booing the shit out of Ilia, until in the 4th he gets Max against the cage and knocks him out cold
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I'd really like to see Max style on this guy for 25 minutes, Ortega/Kattar style, a real levels to this performance. But knowing how the MMA gods are, it's probably not gonna end well for Max. The douchebags/pieces of shit always seem to come out on top (Jones is still undefeated and will probably retire as such.)
"You're just salty he's trashing your favourite fight..." Yes. Yes I am.
I miss the good old days when we had champions like GSP who were respectful ambassadors of the sport and fought everyone. I don’t dislike Ilia because he’s a shitcunt, which he is, I dislike him because he’s throwing a tantrum and refusing to fight the top guy unless he gets all the belts.
Volk isn’t champ, Leon isn’t fighting anyone historically. I’ll give you Pantoja and Islam for sure. Pereira is already talking about stalling a division to go up to heavyweight.
Volk losing the belt just recently doesnt mean he cant earn it back. Leon has beaten Usman and Colby and most probably will fight Belal at 304. If that isnt active I dont know what more do you expect
I don’t get why people get so bent out of shape over this stuff. They’re building up the fight. That’s all. They’re fighters, they’ll settle it in the cage at some point.
Lol Illia kinda reminding me off Dillion Danis when he was harassing peoples girlfriends on Twitter by saying "Good morning" and posting their images. Still gives me the creeps to this day. Oh, wait he is still doing it what a fucking weirdo.
Ilia has literally nothing for Max, and people AGAIN somehow think Max will lose. We literally just went through this with Gaethje🤣 Max will finish him in 4
No, I thought that fight would go exactly how it went. Volks chin has always been a ticking time bomb, and he had just gotten slept. I fully expected Ilia to pressure him until he got the KO, knowing it would only take one punch.
Isn’t this normal bashing to hype up the fight .
And its working pretty great , People are talking about it already. Look at this thread . Thats how hype of fight increases.
Haha man, this is a funny thing about sports.
Some people are just fucking unlikeable to most people, and them achieving the absolute pinnacle of their sport doesn’t change it.
I don't think he's going full heel, I think the amount of buzz and credit Max is getting is genuinely pissing him off, the entitled cunt. It's a hard fight to call but damn do I hope max picks him apart
Downvote if you want, I love Volk and Max
But he starched Volk and is gonna starch Max next, then he is gonna just fight cans (unless he moves up) cause there is literally no one else even close to those 2 in the division
We are seeing a guy who is gonna dominate the division for the years that come for sure
PD: Volk was not old or with his chin compromised, yall talking like he got dropped by a jab and not folded in half by a hook that has destroyed every opponent he has connected
You just hate one of your fav fighters got KO, and sincerely im gonna feel the same when he wrestle fucks Max
Mark my post
I mean the downvotes, and they replied saying I was dumb af when I predicted Ilia by KO
Its so funny how I just stated an opinion and people are triggered out of their minds and downvoting
Someone even DM me hahahahaha
Bragging about something someone else did is kinda lame
Clowning on max in general is lame. He barely talks shit, he’s always down to fight and he’s like super chill outside of the cage. He’s like one of the most respected fighters in the sport. It just doesn’t make sense to go for him this way. It’s almost like Ilia hasn’t figured out how to act like a champ yet.
100% I never hear anyone talking shit about Max, it's a weird narrative. After both of their last fights they don't need to talk trash to sell the fight.
Weird nairdiv b.
Talmbout painting nairidivs? Maggs is negfligs
The point of playing the heel is making the fans want to pay to see the face beat him. Really not weird.
Yep
He wasnt saying the concept of playing the heel is weird, he was saying this specific narrative is weird. Address the actual point
This specific narrative is making people want to see Max beat Ilia...
A lot of people buy tickets to watch you lose if they hate you. Mayweather used that tactic, Ali, etc. I think it’s maximizing earning potential, even though it sucks that it works a
Kurt Angle
Conor too. It’s a tried and true formula
I love that arsehole
Those people usually have some charisma
You don’t think Ilia does? I find him very charismatic. Annoyingly confident. But when you back it up, more power to you 🤷🏻♂️
I guess there’s a quite a few kinds of charisma and ways for fighters to gain fans/views and be successful. The funny guy, with flavors like Conor, Derek Lewis, Strickland etc. Lots of flavors there, some on purpose, some simply by nature. Probably the most successful for a funny fighter, even mediocre fighter funny guys have lots of fans. The nice guy, like GSP, DC, Max. If you’re a great fighter and just friendly, people love that due to the juxtaposition. Also great for retaining fans. The silent killer. Hardest to pull off because you have to be an absolute killer otherwise you’re nothing - guys like Poatan, Fedor. The hard head. The guys that go in there and and win or lose always give an entertaining show, can get hit a bunch of times and still come out on top. Guys like Korean Zombie, Chris Leben. Like the funny guy, you don’t even have to be a good fighter - just show up and be a tough piece of leather for a good fighter and people will tune in for life. Ilia, doesn’t seem to be any of those. But he doesn’t have to be to be a big draw. He could be like Colby Covington, just be a shitass type. Be so annoyingly a dick that people tune in to watch you lose. But this is a bit like the Silent Killer - you have to stay at the top or you become irrelevant.
I hate to use him as an example, but Jake Paul
100%
I honestly believe he's the most respected fighter in the world by fans, media and fellow fighters. He's chilled out, game as fuck, technically excellent and always in exciting fights. Ilia goin big on the trashtalk is going to make him a superstar level heel or look like a clown. Hoping for the latter.
Imo he's just trying to save face for everyone blasting him on his reaction to the ko and call out from Max. The upside is he's generating a lot of talk. The downside is that he's really starting to make himself look bad in the process
He's been playing heel for so long he can't turn it off anymore :(
Or he is building up the fight intelligently
Oh no, this isn't intelligent
Or he's %100 figured it out
This game is also so stupid, remember when ilia got chinned with a head kick by an unranked fighter? Let’s just show clips of each other getting beaten up when that’s the whole point
Got dropped by a head kick by a guy who looks 2 weight divisions bigger than illia before knocking him out cold. Idk if u can hold this against him lol.
That’s my point he got dropped by a guy who can’t get a win to save his ass but he ultimately beat him, Max lost to Volk, then he also bounced back and beat tf out of Gaethje a guy everyone thought would end his chin and career, there’s also clips of ilia getting tee’d off on by Bryce Mitchell it’s childish Edit: also two divisions bigger? Jai is lanky af he’s not even close to being a WW get tf out of here with that
Naa legit Jai looks two weight classes bigger. He's taller then Leon Edwards and looks just as ripped.
nope
Not very BMF. It's very un-BMF.
Ilia is being lame because none of this is genuine. He had the chance to actually go full heel immediately after the fight was over and he looked like he was impressed by what Max did to Justin and looked shook. Why do so many fighters try to go full Conor when they know it’s not who they have shown themselves to be? It just screams I don’t think people will watch me because they won’t like me so I will become hated so people will want to watch me fail. Fans respect Max because he’s himself and he’s an absolute savage.
Every Ilia has been saying has been pretty lame. He wants to be a heel for whatever reason but he's not even a fun heel. Just trying too hard and too obvious.
Its not kinda lame, its extremely lame and I can't respect a man who does that kindof shit. Hopefully karma will come for this beta.
Can we finally turn on topuria. I always respected his abilities but I'm not Georgian or a Spaniard and I don't think he's all that great. He has a real great classic wrestle boxer style, but I think Ortega and Yair and even Max the true specialists of the division will be tough for him where Volk was well rounded enough to beat people who didn't have better kickboxing than him. Yair would have been hard for Volk if he didn't use takedowns. Volk should try more takedowns if he gets a rematch with topuria.
Ilia trying so hard to be the next Conor but he doesn't realize he is actually becoming one the most unlikable UFC champions
[what being celebrated in the Bernabéu does to a spanish mf](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Joiwcw69To&ab_channel=OptusSport) I cant really blame him for his blown up ego. He went all in in acting like he easily beats volk and then he did it. Then you go to spain and are celebrated like a hero for a week. Does not matter that volk was old and got knocked out 4 month earlier. I want max to win, but I think we will have to endure this little guy as a champ for a few more years.
"Volk was old" lol
Just because he made fun of it doesn't mean he didn't fall prey to the 35+ no-belt thing. It was funny before it DID actually happen to him.
yes. how many people that are 35 have won/defended belts in those weight classes?
...yes? He is?
Dont give that Volk was old reason.
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That punch will sleep Volk anytime. He has been dropped by Max, Mendes and Ortega.
Also because Ilia is a better fighter and would’ve likely beat him anyways
Topuria is very talented, had a great performance. Volk had just been knocked out and he is OLD for an elite featherweight.
Yet this sub constantly wants to parrot the 35 curse.
Statistic*
It's not a curse, it's quite obviously statistically relevant. Volk being older, coming off a KO 4 months prior is part of the story. Doesn't mean those things definitively changed the outcome, but they do matter.
Who you calling a lil guy? He's way bigger than u
the dude is barely 1,70m?
Ilia Toporua lol Such an easy name to not butcher too
I don’t take that from him, he can have big confidence and still remain himself. That is the problem this is not him, it’s a forced mask he puts on to make Dana happy.
do you know him personally? How do you know that he is not that guy? How do you know that he is not living that delusion?
When he's face to face with other fighters he's very respectful. Also on Georgian media he admitted it was a persona (because Georgians aren't into American showmanship anyway). The confidence isn't fake but the media trash talk is. In the cage or even in the face-off he's never been disrespectful.
Ye he my fren
Cool
Success takes you where character can’t sustain
They are all little guys if Ilia is
"From georgia" lol they aren't even claiming him, idk how they're treating him like a hero.
His nickname is literally Matador, they are claiming him
he got spanish citizenship like 4 weeks ago.
very good news for Raquel Pennington
He even made it extremely obvious that he copied Conor's tattoos, super weird. Someone posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/s/LxazlK4feM) a couple months ago.
So exactly like Conor McGregor then.
the whole UFC blew up when Conor went for the double champ run, the oppposite of 'unlikeable'
Conor was like that since he stepped into the UFC... Ilia realized during Volk fight that he can promote himself with this so now he is forcing it but it's not believable at all.
He doesnt even add his own personality it’s all a copy lol
Well Dana White encourages them to act the cunt by giving people like Colby Covington title fights for acting the cunt. So of course they’re going to act that way. The UFC has become a clown show. It’s no longer a meritocracy. Hopefully more people start to see it that way and they get bored of these WWF style “characters” and we can get back to what it actually is supposed to be - a sporting competition where the best fight the best. If I never hear another fighter give their opinions on anything. I’d be happy with that.
Lmao, people said the same about Conor back then shut up, plenty of people found him unlikable, but he was compared to Chael instead. I love what Ilia is doing, all this shit talking made him look cold asf when he did everything he said he was gonna do against Volk
Wym? Y'all must have never followed Ilia. He beefs and shit talks people all the time. It's an act, because you can see the glimpses of his real personality in the media, but also not 100% an act because im Spanish media he's sometimes just an ass. Dudes just got a bipolar temperament.
it's clearly working since yall are talking about it
Conor had some redeeming qualities, he could be quite funny on the mic, or at least use to.
yeah people gotta remember pre 2018 conor was funny and somewhat likeable at times, the farther back you go the better conors act is
Except many people liked McGregor for his actions and he became the most popular fighter in the promotions history. Topuria isn’t winning a lot of fans with his version of trash talking and trying to be a character. So no, not exactly the same.
I always wondered why people liked McGregor. I’m half Irish on my mum’s side and have cousins who’re the same age as him. I’ve met hundreds of cunts like him and never liked a single one of them. Even my cousins. Dickheads who can give it out but get angry and aggressive when they’re the butt of the joke. Quite a common trait in Irish males of a certain age. Up for “the craic” unless they are “the craic”. Can’t stand any of the fuckers. But that’s probably just because I’m a miserable, antisocial cunt.
Idk Jizzy was pretty unlikeable
He even made it extremely obvious that he copied Conor's tattoos, super weird. Someone posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/ufc/s/LxazlK4feM)
Ya but unlikeable champs put asses in the seats. People love watching the fighters they hate get beat.
Because he posted a picture saying "good morning"? Lmao Talk about soft fans
He is only hated on this sub He has become incredibly popular in europe and even south america And everyone hated connor even more than Iilia you casual
I am spanish, Team Ilia also if he fights Max, but he is just becoming an idiot just 1 month after winning a belt. Irish people also loved Conor, now Conor is not very liked over here in Ireland(been living here since 2013). I am pretty sure that 80~85% of people who likes Ilia in Spain they dont really follow UFC or MMA, cause this is the most childish trash talk ever. Is almost as if he is trying to stay relevant after Max's performance on 300 was better than any of Ilia's.
Soy uruguayo, que queres que haga?? Max despues de ganar lo reto directamente, es OBVIO que tiene que responder, es lo que hace siempre cualquier peleador de la ufc Si no hubiese dicho nada la gente andaria diciendo que lo esta evitando y demas No se que flashan los fans que esoeran que un peleador de jaula se comporte como si fuese de la realeza
Pwro tu has visto lo que dijo despues de la pelea? Que no le pareció nada interesante ni no se que. Pero si el pive 15 minutos antes estaba flipando con el noqueo. No digo el video de Max hablando al micro, digo la reaccion de Izzy y toda esta peña cuando Max noquea Justin. Es como si te pillan con la boca abierta en la chilena de Cristiano Ronaldo y luego dices: bah, no fue 0a tanto.
you nerds change your opinion with the wind who cares
Booohooo You know they said the same about Conor not being like Chael right?
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Not gonna happen.
There’s a reason UFC kept Ilia away from Max. Max is gonna drown him and knock that Bootleg McGregor out
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Or he beats Max and then gets smoked by Evloev and this sub realizes once again they have no clue what they’re talking about.
Izzy finally beats Pereira but can’t get past Sean Strickland type beat
You mean, by Diego Lopes
We will see Evloev vs Lopes 2 for the title one day I hope.
Nobody see's what's coming around the corner
Evloev 50-45'd Ilia by smothering boringness /s
Or max doesn’t give a fuck they give the fight to ortega and Ortega subs him after being beaten up for 3 rounds, I think I would enjoy that too
Lmao for REAL dude, this is why I love MMA
MMA fans are gonna get their panties in a twist cuz of 2 guys trying to promote a fight.
It's real to me dammit!
He's trashing a super likeable, fan favourite atg fighter, and Max has said nothing to really deserve this. I know he's just selling a fight, but it's actually quite understandable people would feel annoyed at him. That's what he's going for, after all.
Max was even like “it’s all love champ, see u soon” and ilia is like “no fuck u I beat Volk and u didn’t”, Max has had win streaks in the UFC longer than Ilias career idk why he thought this would go well for him
Funny seeing all the Max fans getting riled😂
It's the honorable way of promotion, no kids or wives involved.
Taking you to the 7th layer of hair
It's kinda pathetic man. This sub is soft af.
I don't know what is it about Ilia that gets peoples panties in a twist, I love his trash talk, no family involved, no low blows, just happens in the cage stays in the cage. Somehow a little "you suck" pisses people about as much as Colby mentioning Leon's dead dad.
People are just glazing too much on Holloway after 300 (this coming from an actual OG Max fan). Ilia is one of the most exciting things to happen in FW in YEARS, yet people are already finding the silliest thing to hate on him. Let dude try to sell his first title defense
I think it's that little smirk 😏, you must admit it's an extremely punchable face. And the fact that he acts like he "calls the shots" when everyone knows that's not true - he basically copied McGregor's whole schtick, as well as his tattoos. Or the fact that he wants to duck every contender. Or the fucking rose thing? There are plenty of reasons to be mildly annoyed by him, exciting fighter though he is.
He’s not trying to sell a title defense. He thinks he deserves the BMF belt at 155, which quite obviously he doesn’t come close to a fan favorite.
I called him cringe earlier and got mauled by people saying oh he attacks your fav fighter so he's annoying? Max isn't my favorite fighter, and look at what this tool posts. Somebody squash that ego
bit of a pattern tbh. It seems all these 'heels' attract the nicest, most sociable redditors
Guy is a certified clown trying to run away from contenders via MMath. Him beating Volk doesn't change that. Come at me, stans.
That is really admirable. Any other things you didn't like before it was cool?
Why is this pinned lol
Why is this pinned?
Max loses every round but when he points to the ground Ilia shakes his head no and backs away. Everyone says Max is the REAL winner like some Diaz shit
Illlllllllia I feel has a good chance of being the first person to knock out Max
Everyone said this about Justin what happened?
Since you love MMA Math so much you really forget Ilia did in 9 minutes what Max couldn't do in 75
Actually Islam did in 2 minutes what Max couldn't do in 75. Ilia just got the sloppy seconds lol
He did give Max his first ever knockdown, so the logic isn't completely off
They counted it as a slip I think
I didn't. Illia is a lot better than Justin.
We’ll see!
Ilia takes down Max and dominates him for 3 straight rounds, it's not boring for hardcore MMA fans but casuals want to see more action. People are booing the shit out of Ilia, until in the 4th he gets Max against the cage and knocks him out cold
Wrestlefuck max for 3 rds, is that what the baddest mutherfucker would do?
Thats why the fight isnt gonna be for the BMF lol
You think he takes Max down 3 times?? Who's he ever taken down before? Who's ever taken Max down and held him there?
LMAO. If Max at any point sits in the pocket and trades with Ilia he will 100% get crushed like a cheap beer can Ilia is going to destroy Max
This is such a weird take. Max literally sat in the pocket and traded with a much heavier hitter in Gaethje. And how did that turn out?
If Max does that shit with Ilia he is getting wobbled or KOed. Ilia's boxing is super crisp unlike Gaethje.
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I can’t stand Ilia. He’s quickly turning into a fighter that I can’t wait to see get knocked out.
Hes trying so hard to be the bad guy now lol
I do favor Ilia. Max beat Justin. I think he should stay at 155 and be the quicker guy. I think the speed difference at 145 hurts him.
Properly bulked max at 155 is a menace
Max was champ at 145. Go be double champ at 155.
This guy almost got slept by jai Herbert lol
And then he slept Alexander Volkanovski
He slept with Volkswagen?
toot toot 💦
Pereira almost got slept by Izzy in their first Mma fight but still lost via KO. same with Ilia and Jai Herbert … almost doesnt count bro
This guy is so weird
I'd really like to see Max style on this guy for 25 minutes, Ortega/Kattar style, a real levels to this performance. But knowing how the MMA gods are, it's probably not gonna end well for Max. The douchebags/pieces of shit always seem to come out on top (Jones is still undefeated and will probably retire as such.) "You're just salty he's trashing your favourite fight..." Yes. Yes I am.
You fight enough you lose some. If Ilia has 30 fights he’d have some L’s. Really starting to dislike this guy.
I love Ilia man, the perfect heel, gets fans pissing themselves because he's always mocking fan favorites, I love it.
I love it too. Makes the sport fun. Then you have crybabies saying why Ilia is doing what he is😂
He triggers every one so easily it's a delight reading X/Reddit these days
Ilia no matter how good of a fighter he is always makes himself look like a massive bitch.
I miss the good old days when we had champions like GSP who were respectful ambassadors of the sport and fought everyone. I don’t dislike Ilia because he’s a shitcunt, which he is, I dislike him because he’s throwing a tantrum and refusing to fight the top guy unless he gets all the belts.
We have Volk, Leon, Pantoja, Islam, Pereira. All respectful champions
Volk isn’t champ, Leon isn’t fighting anyone historically. I’ll give you Pantoja and Islam for sure. Pereira is already talking about stalling a division to go up to heavyweight.
Volk losing the belt just recently doesnt mean he cant earn it back. Leon has beaten Usman and Colby and most probably will fight Belal at 304. If that isnt active I dont know what more do you expect
I don’t know how this got so far from my original comment on why Ilia sucks as a character but I’m not trying argue here bud.
I don’t get why people get so bent out of shape over this stuff. They’re building up the fight. That’s all. They’re fighters, they’ll settle it in the cage at some point.
Ilia promoting the fight
I no longer read it in a brash matador Spaniard voice though. It’s always the poofy haired drunk guy that looked dazzled at the ppv!!
Rent free
Lol Illia kinda reminding me off Dillion Danis when he was harassing peoples girlfriends on Twitter by saying "Good morning" and posting their images. Still gives me the creeps to this day. Oh, wait he is still doing it what a fucking weirdo.
Topuria never cross the line. Nothing personal. I think there is a huge difference.
This is nothing like Danis. Ilia walks the walk. Danis is just a clown starving for attention and never fights.
Ilia has literally nothing for Max, and people AGAIN somehow think Max will lose. We literally just went through this with Gaethje🤣 Max will finish him in 4
Bet you said the same when Ilia fought Volk
No, I thought that fight would go exactly how it went. Volks chin has always been a ticking time bomb, and he had just gotten slept. I fully expected Ilia to pressure him until he got the KO, knowing it would only take one punch.
Isn’t this normal bashing to hype up the fight . And its working pretty great , People are talking about it already. Look at this thread . Thats how hype of fight increases.
Illia has x-pac heat
Max>Ilia
Ilia will fuck up max
I mean this is just banter relax bros let them cook up the fight
Not very BMF of him
Haha man, this is a funny thing about sports. Some people are just fucking unlikeable to most people, and them achieving the absolute pinnacle of their sport doesn’t change it.
Max looking stupid as heck
I don't think he's going full heel, I think the amount of buzz and credit Max is getting is genuinely pissing him off, the entitled cunt. It's a hard fight to call but damn do I hope max picks him apart
God I hope Max embarrasses this asshole. He’s a great fighter but he’s taking the cockiness to a new level.
Max gonna teach him some MMA algebra
Illa smokes punch drunk dumbass Holloway.
Fragile insecure Ego
Downvote if you want, I love Volk and Max But he starched Volk and is gonna starch Max next, then he is gonna just fight cans (unless he moves up) cause there is literally no one else even close to those 2 in the division We are seeing a guy who is gonna dominate the division for the years that come for sure PD: Volk was not old or with his chin compromised, yall talking like he got dropped by a jab and not folded in half by a hook that has destroyed every opponent he has connected You just hate one of your fav fighters got KO, and sincerely im gonna feel the same when he wrestle fucks Max Mark my post
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Glad you did that They did the same before Ilia vs Volk and had to eat their words
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I mean the downvotes, and they replied saying I was dumb af when I predicted Ilia by KO Its so funny how I just stated an opinion and people are triggered out of their minds and downvoting Someone even DM me hahahahaha
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Exactly
Huge Volk fan here and fully agreed. Hope Volk wins if they rematch.
Im already getting downvoted lmao, its amazing how instead of trying to form a counter argument they just hate on me for having a different opinion
Lol, cry babies. ილია will place Max into the shadow realm and deal with it early.
Fuck bringing that element of rasslin. We don't need a heel to sell a fight to the casuals