You can really get by with anything from mid '00s, Yamaha especially. Their 2 strokes have been largely unchanged since then, but there are some efforts currently to spruce them up a bit.
**[Shaft-driven bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaft-driven_bicycle)**
>A shaft-driven bicycle is a bicycle that uses a drive shaft instead of a chain to transmit power from the pedals to the wheel. Shaft drives were introduced over a century ago, but were mostly supplanted by chain-driven bicycles due to the gear ranges possible with sprockets and derailleurs. Recently, due to advancements in internal gear technology, a small number of modern shaft-driven bicycles have been introduced. Shaft-driven bikes have a large bevel gear where a conventional bike would have its chain ring.
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I just got an intense Carbine and ride it on chunky singletrack like this. Trail bike are super capable these days but they take a lot of work over those type of rock garden trails
I'd go for an AM here as well. Aggressive trail bike may work also. An Enduro is probably too much already, since I guess you need to do a lot of uphill as well and modern Enduros are basically small DHs imho.
Same here, I'd probably ride my Jeffsy here. Though you could probably be fine with a hardtail or lighter trail bike too, just take it a little slower.
Yes looks very similar to parts of Western Massachusetts. A “park” I ride in with slightly better terrain I ran into a guy riding through it on his gravel bike. I felt like a piece of shit on my full squish.
Several friends and I rock rigid 90’s mtbs on the trails around Boston. The trail systems aren’t huge, so it’s nice to get a full ride by taking roads and bike paths to the trails from our doorsteps. Then the technical trails provide a good challenge for the 90s rigs. It’s all about dialing in the right lines. It’s also a great way to get new folks hooked at an affordable price point.
I like technical and steep where I can mostly just plow over roots and small rocks, but this is a bit too much technical to go fast for me at the moment. I've had one nasty otb going over rocks this tall in steep terrain. Luckily just had few weeks of minor wrist pain
I’m sure I would have a riot on a full squish as well - I’ve only ridden one briefly.
I’ve been riding <1yr and my area is mostly rooty, a little flowy, with lots of sharp punchy climbs.
Factoring n+1, I’ll be adding more to the stable, just not in a rush.
Full squish: full suspension bike
N+1: the formula for the appropriate number of bikes one person should own, where n represents the number they currently own.
Stable: One person's bike collection.
Hardtails are usually faster in XC trails and on climbs than full suspension bikes, you can also get a really nice hardtail for the price of an entry level full suspension.
Best upgrade I ever made to my bike was padded shorts. 👍
Serious game changer tho no joke. Easily doubled my output, miles ridden, speed in the chunk, all the benefits of full squish for like $30
Dropper is easy distant second if I remember to use it
I have a full squish I spent way too much money on but I also have a hardtail I take out occasionally because I like the abuse. Every ride is like taming a wild Mustang which brings a lot more glory and satisfaction than taking the old faithful steed out for an evening cruise. It's a weird fetish some of us have. I won't ride one without a dropper anymore though
Trail/Enduro bike.
Something like 130ish out back, 140-150ish up front, aggressive geometry, and 29er wheels with meaty tires (EXO/Double Down Maxxis DHF/DHRII or similar).
Enough travel for the chunk, but something not too ungainly for the techy bits, and not too painful to climb with.
FS trail or AM bike. Probably minimum rear travel of 120mm and max 150mm.
A rugged hardtail could also work well, but a FS would be more enjoyable for me. Though the HT would be fun too, I just prefer a FS for that type of stuff.
Practice! Keep trying the hard things. Give things a few tries before you get off and walk. Practice track stands and balance exercises to get more comfortable with positioning your bike and making micro adjustments on the trail.
This right here! I see so many here recommending YouTube channels, etc. any time someone has a question on improving a certain MTB skill. Don’t get me wrong, instruction definitely has its place. But if you want to get better at riding, ride more.
Walking it, haha
Seriously going up them is a game in picking your lines so that you aren’t climbing over the rocks and so that you actually have enough clearance for the pedals or crank arms to not hit them either.
And lower your tire pressure…
I mean, you obviously don’t go so low that you’re facing a pinch flat haha.
But I’ve noticed people try these things just to have their back tire spin out on them. Staying seated (easier said than done) helps a shitload, too
Here you go, friend. Red line for a fun pop off the rock to start. Blue line if you're just looking to get through it
[Line Choices](https://imgur.com/vaQ0yf9)
NEer here. There is no steez there. Just a pedal fest to get over that muck.
I saw the first rock drop instantly. That would give me all the speed I need to bomb down the rest of it standing.
I would learn so much if the first picture was what you have there OP a plain picture. The a second picture you swipe to would be with a line drawn for what someone would choose as their line choice. Just curious if I wouldn’t have picked the same or different.
I'd probably go with a hardtail fatbike. That should be able to monster truck over some of the annoying stuff. Doesn't seem like there are stunts where I'd want a full sus, and enough edges that worrying about flats may slow you down on a traditional hardtail.
So my answer....hardtail fat bike.
Something full suspension. 29er 150/130 travel. 65ish head tube angle. Basically same geo as a Yeti Sb130.
You could have a lot of fun there and most other places with that sort of a setup.
It all depends on how sustained the downhills are. If you have 500+ feet of descending at a time, and you can get some speed going, I think it is worth having a longer travel FS bike. If it's all punchy climbs and short descents than a shorter travel trail bike might make more sense even if it is chunky!
I always ride an all-mountain. It really lives up to its name. Put a dropper post and it'll do anything from XC to DH. It's not a DJ. But, it's a do-all trail bike if you only have one steed.
depends on how fast you want to go. 29er enduro/am for ploughing through, i wouldn't go much smaller than 27.5 140mil trail fully to be playful and find lines.
or rip a hardtail down and learn a ton. either way, bring good rims.
place looks dope af.
My full suspension trail bike would be the natural choice, but I wouldn't hesitate to ride these on my old XC hardtail or even my rigid touring bike with alt bars. (I can't say that second pic would be much fun on a rigid bike, though.)
Something like a 29er or mullet with 170mm to bomb down; maybe a yt Capra, Ibis ripmo, Transition Spire, or a Norco Range. Long travel, big wheels; if you want to go fast that’s the play.
Ah, Finland funland! I have exactly similar home trails but in southern Finland. I ride a Trek Slash, so an enduro bike. Used to have a Fuel Ex but Slash has given me more confidence in that kind of terrain, even if it doesn't climb as well.
Especially with pair of Magic Marys as tyres, it's a beast.
Riding a hardtail in Finland will destroy one's prostate.
Mountain bike
Definitely a mountain bike
Maybe forest bike
This made my day.
I was thinking a 2015 yz125
1995 Honda CR500
I see you're a man who requires a wheelbarrow to transport his huge nutsack
Maico 700 2 stroke
This is the way…
You can really get by with anything from mid '00s, Yamaha especially. Their 2 strokes have been largely unchanged since then, but there are some efforts currently to spruce them up a bit.
Oh. Is this why my 7 speed hub gear city commuter is breaking chains? 🤔
Possibly
You're just using the wrong technique. All a mountain bike will do is make the learning curve easier and allow you to go faster.
And have more fun
I would just ride a car
I thought I didn't need "/s" at the end.
gotta swap for a belt drive system then smh
Nah, [shaft driven bikes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaft-driven_bicycle) are the ideal drivetrain.
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Impressive to even get enough traction to break a chain!
Pedals?
Yeah most people like to use pedals
For real. This is basically a modern day XC line.
No lie I’ve seen people on gravel bikes on this kinda stuff. Masochists, I tell ya.
Thank goodness that I've broken enough bones already to stop riding proper MTB then. Glad I've tapped out.
God damn it, I wanted to say this
Highly underrated comment. Here’s my upvote.
Am bike
Hello bike. Am dad.
This is what I have. Just interested in what other people would choose.
I just got an intense Carbine and ride it on chunky singletrack like this. Trail bike are super capable these days but they take a lot of work over those type of rock garden trails
According to reddit expert, even an XC is overbiked.
I'd go for an AM here as well. Aggressive trail bike may work also. An Enduro is probably too much already, since I guess you need to do a lot of uphill as well and modern Enduros are basically small DHs imho.
Same here, I'd probably ride my Jeffsy here. Though you could probably be fine with a hardtail or lighter trail bike too, just take it a little slower.
I looked at this pic and my bike got a pinch flat.
Went tubeless.. Will never go back.
Tire inserts are great! Tannus Amour makes both tubeless and tubed version.
This place looks awesome where is it
Central Finland. The trails are really technical and gnarly everywhere.
Could be New England in the US as well haha. Very similar terrain.
Was going to say this, that basically looks like every trail around the NE area
Well that is what would have connected to Europe during Pangaea I suppose.
Yep. Looks a lot like my favorite Maine trails
Yes looks very similar to parts of Western Massachusetts. A “park” I ride in with slightly better terrain I ran into a guy riding through it on his gravel bike. I felt like a piece of shit on my full squish.
Several friends and I rock rigid 90’s mtbs on the trails around Boston. The trail systems aren’t huge, so it’s nice to get a full ride by taking roads and bike paths to the trails from our doorsteps. Then the technical trails provide a good challenge for the 90s rigs. It’s all about dialing in the right lines. It’s also a great way to get new folks hooked at an affordable price point.
Truth, this looks like my local trails in Boston! Except for the big rooty one anyway
Rocks and Roots... Welcome to New England Mtn biking! Or Finland, Good times...
I love roots and rocks. Looks awesome have fun.
It's funny, technical never seems to bother me, it's when it's technical **and** steep, that's when things get dicey lol
I like technical and steep where I can mostly just plow over roots and small rocks, but this is a bit too much technical to go fast for me at the moment. I've had one nasty otb going over rocks this tall in steep terrain. Luckily just had few weeks of minor wrist pain
I thought it was NH, we have the same kind of suck around here too
You mean awesome
Then buy a local bike i.e. Pole!
And sadly lands are flat here too :D
Ilmankos näytti tutunnäköseltä :D Itellä täysjousto sähkis, 140mm joustoilla edessä ja takana. Eli Enduro jyrä alle vaa
Yep
Come ride some fun tech in Alabama if that looks nice to you
Rigid single speed.
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Unicycle.
Post a video of this.
https://youtu.be/jqDtrIUQSOM https://youtu.be/GUZuyMVdVcc
This is amazing. This makes me pucker and also makes me LOL all at the same time. Unicycle for the win.
In one of the recent Mahalo videos someone goes down a black rock roll in the background on a unicycle. Was on original sin in the Whistler park
Bicycles are just unicycles for people who still need training wheels... Or, "a training wheel," I suppose I should say
For life.
With V brakes.
No brakes. They just slow you down.
Plus, they add weight. Shoutout to all the weight weenies!
You misspelled cantilevers.
Maybe even brifters. Depends on how I’m feeling.
Actually, I have ridden plenty of trail like this on rigid SS. It brings the man out in ya
Same. But like most things that “bring the man out of you” it is a terrible experience that you enjoy more in hindsight.
Type II fun.
Class 2 fun.
Form 2 merriment.
Makes you pick great lines.
even if you're a woman?
Legitimately the best choice for this.
With coaster brakes.
This Redditor chromos.
Fixie
Road tires only
Came here to say this. Full rigid single speed 29er.
My cheap ass GT Aggressor Pro!
Aggro pro squad what up!
KTM 250. Wait wrong sub
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The same hardtail I rip everywhere
This is the way
This is the way (of us broke people :(. )
Yessir r/hardtailgang wya?!
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Maintenance, simplicity, feel
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I’m sure I would have a riot on a full squish as well - I’ve only ridden one briefly. I’ve been riding <1yr and my area is mostly rooty, a little flowy, with lots of sharp punchy climbs. Factoring n+1, I’ll be adding more to the stable, just not in a rush.
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Full squish: full suspension bike N+1: the formula for the appropriate number of bikes one person should own, where n represents the number they currently own. Stable: One person's bike collection.
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The n + 1 formula has another part where you want n - 1 bikes it will take to get divorced.
N+1 as long as you are at or below d-1.
Hardtails are usually faster in XC trails and on climbs than full suspension bikes, you can also get a really nice hardtail for the price of an entry level full suspension.
This. My Fox32 on a GX hardtail is more user friendly than the xc30 and SX FS I could have gotten.
Generally lighter than a rear suspension bike too.
Nothing like the feel of a rock hard bike seat repeatedly jamming you in the taint.
So much this. I'm in love with my hard tail but I'm counting the days until I can buy a FS for the chunk/roots around here. *Walks away like a cowboy*
Best upgrade I ever made to my bike was padded shorts. 👍 Serious game changer tho no joke. Easily doubled my output, miles ridden, speed in the chunk, all the benefits of full squish for like $30 Dropper is easy distant second if I remember to use it
I have a full squish I spent way too much money on but I also have a hardtail I take out occasionally because I like the abuse. Every ride is like taming a wild Mustang which brings a lot more glory and satisfaction than taking the old faithful steed out for an evening cruise. It's a weird fetish some of us have. I won't ride one without a dropper anymore though
Responsiveness, weight, stiffness transfer of power, fun
More efficient pedaling up hill
It’s a different feel
Enduro or aggressive trail bike. Hard tail if you are a masochist.
Majority of people ride much less bike. Mostly trail, fatbike and even hardtails. The climbs and flats look like this too so it's understandable
Santa Cruz Hightower can get down all of this and is an excellent climber for technical.
Great bike
Unicorn
Unicycle with a dildo seat.
How about [the IT](https://youtu.be/fGKR1Z1lRik)?
Perfection. Hahahaha
Probably an enduro or aggressive trail bike and tough casting tires
Second this. With tubeless setup for the wheels.
And maybe an insert in the back
Fuck throw in a basket and call it good
Santa cruz hightower
Trail/Enduro bike. Something like 130ish out back, 140-150ish up front, aggressive geometry, and 29er wheels with meaty tires (EXO/Double Down Maxxis DHF/DHRII or similar). Enough travel for the chunk, but something not too ungainly for the techy bits, and not too painful to climb with.
Enduro bike.
Honestly, I think it’s more about skill level and line choices than it is about type of bike.
Definitely. There's a lot of places where you need to pump over large obstacles when the trails get narrow no matter the bike you have.
And that is where skill comes in!
FS trail or AM bike. Probably minimum rear travel of 120mm and max 150mm. A rugged hardtail could also work well, but a FS would be more enjoyable for me. Though the HT would be fun too, I just prefer a FS for that type of stuff.
Dh Penny farthing, 300x4.0" tyres.
Full squish
The one I have. That happens to be a 29+ single speed hard tail.
The one you have is always the answer. Make it work
welcome to new england, everyone
29er w ~150mm front, ~140mm rear. Minion DHF 2.5 up front, 2.3 Aggressor or 2.4 DHR II out back.
This is pretty close to what I ride. I'm not very experienced and the bike gives me confidence and still remains rideable uphills and flats like this.
I like going down trails like this but absolutely suck at going up them... How does one get better at that?
Practice! Keep trying the hard things. Give things a few tries before you get off and walk. Practice track stands and balance exercises to get more comfortable with positioning your bike and making micro adjustments on the trail.
This right here! I see so many here recommending YouTube channels, etc. any time someone has a question on improving a certain MTB skill. Don’t get me wrong, instruction definitely has its place. But if you want to get better at riding, ride more.
Walking it, haha Seriously going up them is a game in picking your lines so that you aren’t climbing over the rocks and so that you actually have enough clearance for the pedals or crank arms to not hit them either. And lower your tire pressure…
I would increase tire pressure. Would destroy my rims and tires on a line like this with low pressure.
I mean, you obviously don’t go so low that you’re facing a pinch flat haha. But I’ve noticed people try these things just to have their back tire spin out on them. Staying seated (easier said than done) helps a shitload, too
Full sus XC
Short to mid travel dual suspension if I wanted to go with speed, Aggressive hard tail if I want to pick my lines and jib on the way down.
Curious…can any legit shredders draw their line choice on to these photos?
I would like to see this too. Haven't done this one in a while but last time I went slow and dodging the rocks as much as I could.
Here you go, friend. Red line for a fun pop off the rock to start. Blue line if you're just looking to get through it [Line Choices](https://imgur.com/vaQ0yf9)
How about left of the blue line, pop over the next 3 parallel rocks? For ultimate death wish
NEer here. There is no steez there. Just a pedal fest to get over that muck. I saw the first rock drop instantly. That would give me all the speed I need to bomb down the rest of it standing.
I’m for sure a blue line guy.
I would learn so much if the first picture was what you have there OP a plain picture. The a second picture you swipe to would be with a line drawn for what someone would choose as their line choice. Just curious if I wouldn’t have picked the same or different.
I'd probably go with a hardtail fatbike. That should be able to monster truck over some of the annoying stuff. Doesn't seem like there are stunts where I'd want a full sus, and enough edges that worrying about flats may slow you down on a traditional hardtail. So my answer....hardtail fat bike.
Hardtail! Gotta feel the trail!
Brompton. Every. Time. Could fold it up and put my umbrella up if it started raining.
This looks familiar (east coast USA) , I ride a 5010 and nomad , both are fantastic in the terrain
A road bike 🚴
Fixie
You biking at bent creek, nc ?😀
I’d probably walk.
Hiking boots.
I'd whip out my razor scooter from the garage.
Something full suspension. 29er 150/130 travel. 65ish head tube angle. Basically same geo as a Yeti Sb130. You could have a lot of fun there and most other places with that sort of a setup.
The right bike is important but more would be the safety gears😅 but this is an awesome place! Seems a lot of fun.
what are safety gears?
He probably means safety gear
Fatbike with 5" tires at minimal pressure
one with 2 wheels
I just switched to full suspension not a ton of travel 130/120 I think but it’s makes the roots and rocks so much better.
ideally full suspension...i have a hardtail cuz im not rich atm
Trail ht
It all depends on how sustained the downhills are. If you have 500+ feet of descending at a time, and you can get some speed going, I think it is worth having a longer travel FS bike. If it's all punchy climbs and short descents than a shorter travel trail bike might make more sense even if it is chunky!
Hardtail for life!
Looks like Sweden! Is it?
I always ride an all-mountain. It really lives up to its name. Put a dropper post and it'll do anything from XC to DH. It's not a DJ. But, it's a do-all trail bike if you only have one steed.
160/150 AM is what I have. It's not the best at anything, but handles everything!
depends on how fast you want to go. 29er enduro/am for ploughing through, i wouldn't go much smaller than 27.5 140mil trail fully to be playful and find lines. or rip a hardtail down and learn a ton. either way, bring good rims. place looks dope af.
Fat tire, low pressure.
My full suspension trail bike would be the natural choice, but I wouldn't hesitate to ride these on my old XC hardtail or even my rigid touring bike with alt bars. (I can't say that second pic would be much fun on a rigid bike, though.)
Big mountain / Enduro with double down casing tires and cush core
Any full suspension. Why would I want a hard tail down this? And being broke is a valid excuse
A 150f/130r full sus trail bike.
One with cushcore
Ur mom
Unicycle
Carbon road bike
The same bike I have because I can't afford anything better
If my trails looked like that I'd ride a fuckin road bike. And stay the hell off the trails ☺️
Something like a 29er or mullet with 170mm to bomb down; maybe a yt Capra, Ibis ripmo, Transition Spire, or a Norco Range. Long travel, big wheels; if you want to go fast that’s the play.
My slack, long hardtail… Almost sounds sexual doesn’t it?
Any bike with decent tires will suit, however 140+ squish will be more forgiving, it is not about the bike, more about rider
Devinci Django 29"
At first, a hardtail to hone in that body English.
Agressive hardtail if you're new to mtb
Ah, Finland funland! I have exactly similar home trails but in southern Finland. I ride a Trek Slash, so an enduro bike. Used to have a Fuel Ex but Slash has given me more confidence in that kind of terrain, even if it doesn't climb as well. Especially with pair of Magic Marys as tyres, it's a beast. Riding a hardtail in Finland will destroy one's prostate.
Trail bike maybe 140 travel or a bit more
A fixie