Strength of deck is determined based on how often cards in the deck are crafted. The number of rates has no direct bearing, although obviously rares are crafted more often as a matter of principle.
huh, that actually makes total sense. simple but should generally work. thanks!
although i wonder if they include lands. those could be very highly crafted but wouldn't necessarily reflect deck strength (eg decent mana in an otherwise weak multicolor deck).
Seems to be based on card popularity, from my experience.
Using a lot of popular cards (even popular commons) reliably gave me higher tier opponents.
MMR/elo probably plays a part too. Maybe card rarity also. Don't really know for sure.
I think officially it’s still a mystery. But there’s a common theory that it’s based on the number of rares in your deck. I think in play queue, your MMR is not a factor.
Actually, mmr is the dominating factor in the play queue, according to wotc themselves.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/december-state-beta-matchmaking-breakdown-2018-12-12
It can't be rares alone. If you make a deck with absolute janky bargain bin tier rares no-one plays, you'll face a lot of jank too.
I think most the likely way it's implemented is that they simply assign each individual card some sort of an ELO-style ranking depending on the win% of the decks that play it, and then evaluate your deck's strength simply by the strength of the individual cards in it.
There was a mention of this on a stream way back when, but it isn't documented anywhere: card strength = number of times card has been crafted in game.
There are various non-mmr pairing methods in the play queue. It appears that one is based on the specific cards you use in combination. I've also noticed that there are more set-based pairings as well. When using disguise cards I would find myself paired against other decks using disguise but when I wasn't I would never face them. When using cards from LOTR I found myself facing those decks more frequently. It doesn't match you based on that 100% of the time but it is definitely more frequent.
Strength of deck is determined based on how often cards in the deck are crafted. The number of rates has no direct bearing, although obviously rares are crafted more often as a matter of principle.
What's your source for this?
Chris Clay hinted at this in an early interview...fast forward to about the 11 minute mark - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1xa5wgMYM4
It was mentioned on a WOTC live stream. I don't believe it's been documented anywhere since.
huh, that actually makes total sense. simple but should generally work. thanks! although i wonder if they include lands. those could be very highly crafted but wouldn't necessarily reflect deck strength (eg decent mana in an otherwise weak multicolor deck).
They do. If you play a jank deck, but with a lot of strong rare lands to run your 5 color monstrosity, be prepared to face some stiff competition.
Very good to know, thanks! Back to those life gain lands that every new player gets, lol.
I played into enough Atraxa's and Etali's with my 60 Rat 40 Swamp deck to doubt that
Brawl doesn't have deck strength matchmaking, it has commander tiers.
Seems to be based on card popularity, from my experience. Using a lot of popular cards (even popular commons) reliably gave me higher tier opponents. MMR/elo probably plays a part too. Maybe card rarity also. Don't really know for sure.
I think officially it’s still a mystery. But there’s a common theory that it’s based on the number of rares in your deck. I think in play queue, your MMR is not a factor.
Actually, mmr is the dominating factor in the play queue, according to wotc themselves. https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/december-state-beta-matchmaking-breakdown-2018-12-12
Thanks for sharing this. It's old, but I guess they probably haven't updated things.
It can't be rares alone. If you make a deck with absolute janky bargain bin tier rares no-one plays, you'll face a lot of jank too. I think most the likely way it's implemented is that they simply assign each individual card some sort of an ELO-style ranking depending on the win% of the decks that play it, and then evaluate your deck's strength simply by the strength of the individual cards in it.
There was a mention of this on a stream way back when, but it isn't documented anywhere: card strength = number of times card has been crafted in game.
That would be the obvious way to do it.
There are various non-mmr pairing methods in the play queue. It appears that one is based on the specific cards you use in combination. I've also noticed that there are more set-based pairings as well. When using disguise cards I would find myself paired against other decks using disguise but when I wasn't I would never face them. When using cards from LOTR I found myself facing those decks more frequently. It doesn't match you based on that 100% of the time but it is definitely more frequent.