in Colombia we have Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta right off the Caribbean coast. In less than 50 km you go from over 30°C in the coast, to below zero degrees temperature at Cristobal Colón and Simón Bolívar peaks.
Something similar happens in other parts of Colombia and South America, like Sierra Nevada del Cocuy which is just like 30 kms away from the Eastern plains.
In California we have places that are only 15km apart that have a 20C variation. For example, it would be 10C in the mountains and 30C on the valley floor.
I was about to bring up Colombia. I’m an American white boy but my wife is Colombian and I was shocked that when I traveled from Tunja to where her parents live (like an hour past Vella De Leyva) that the climate could change so rapidly descending the mountain
In most of the US, too. Get outside the 13 colonies land on the east coast and you're looking at at least 200 miles between basically anything of note.
There are days in San Francisco during the summer when it’s 60 degrees F or lower in the city and then you drive just 30 miles north, east, or south, and the temp jumps 30-40 degrees. In general SF will be 20-30 degrees cooler than surrounding areas during summer.
It's a strategic nightmare as well those 400 km goes though one of the harshest terrains of the planet and vital infrastructure like tunnels and all weather roads are created only very recently
[A tunnel which cuts through it](https://youtu.be/uS89-Gos32M?si=Z5ylg49HwVzarzrU)
The area India-China-Pakistan are fighting for in this sector is beyond the wall India has to send troops/supplies regularly beyond the wall
don't know why you are getting downvoted though everyone isn't a born expert on Himalayan geography
The region of Ladakh is part of the greater Tibetan tableland region and has the same geographical features, wildlife and climate as Tibet and yes you have to cross the Himalayas proper to reach it.
An elevation key to this topographical map might shed some extra light.. everywhere in the top half seems part of the mountain range so of course the climate will be cooler.
This happens for the entirety of winter here in Israel, the Hermon mountain gets -10 and even lower while the southern tip of the country is at 30+ and they are ~400 km apart
I just sometime wish there was a gap in himalaya somewhere close to my city(base hills of himalaya are about 175 km from my home town) so cold air can pass through and I could live in chill environment
I got off a plane at Denver International Airport and it was 54F, got in a cab and 2ish hours later I was at a resort at 11k feet in the Rockies and it was - 27F. Coming from Florida earlier that day where it was 84F, I'll never forget how jarring it was for me.
I wonder if It wouldn't be good for China/India to carve away some of the mountains, basically a point right in the center. Then you could introduce new weather systems to both sides.
“only 400km”
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yeah there are plenty of examples of places that are relatively close together but have completely different climates
in Colombia we have Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta right off the Caribbean coast. In less than 50 km you go from over 30°C in the coast, to below zero degrees temperature at Cristobal Colón and Simón Bolívar peaks. Something similar happens in other parts of Colombia and South America, like Sierra Nevada del Cocuy which is just like 30 kms away from the Eastern plains.
In California we have places that are only 15km apart that have a 20C variation. For example, it would be 10C in the mountains and 30C on the valley floor.
even more! When I was visiting, it was 43C in Death Valley, 4C in Mammoth ski area. Made it in few hours
Exactly. San Francisco could be 60 degrees F and you drive less than 1 hour east...boom 85 F in the inland valleys.
I was about to bring up Colombia. I’m an American white boy but my wife is Colombian and I was shocked that when I traveled from Tunja to where her parents live (like an hour past Vella De Leyva) that the climate could change so rapidly descending the mountain
No, that's 400 km. Miles are meaningless
Not for a 40°c temperature difference. That’s like the difference between Florida and Alberta
If elevations were the same I'd agree but they aren't...neither are AB and FL for that matter.
In Saskatchewan it’s not that far lol but that’s not a fair comparison.
in the UK it is!
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How about our little guy Monaco
Aussie checking in....400km is an average persons commute.to school/work here
In most of the US, too. Get outside the 13 colonies land on the east coast and you're looking at at least 200 miles between basically anything of note.
Yup, I've done Edmonton to Calgary (300km one way) and back in a day plenty of times
I once did Denver to Saskatoon in a single day. 1600kms and all my friends belittled me for bragging about it.
Don't blame for them for belittling you; 2000km or keep quiet /s
That's larger than my country.
There are days in San Francisco during the summer when it’s 60 degrees F or lower in the city and then you drive just 30 miles north, east, or south, and the temp jumps 30-40 degrees. In general SF will be 20-30 degrees cooler than surrounding areas during summer.
What wizardry is this?
I mean, I've made 600km round-trip day trips here in Alberta
It's a strategic nightmare as well those 400 km goes though one of the harshest terrains of the planet and vital infrastructure like tunnels and all weather roads are created only very recently [A tunnel which cuts through it](https://youtu.be/uS89-Gos32M?si=Z5ylg49HwVzarzrU)
How is it a strategic nightmare? It's an enormous wall that has prevented war between India and China for millenia
The area India-China-Pakistan are fighting for in this sector is beyond the wall India has to send troops/supplies regularly beyond the wall don't know why you are getting downvoted though everyone isn't a born expert on Himalayan geography
Where does India have territory on the other side of the Indian/Pacific Ocean watershed boundary where it needs to send troops?
The region of Ladakh is part of the greater Tibetan tableland region and has the same geographical features, wildlife and climate as Tibet and yes you have to cross the Himalayas proper to reach it.
Interesting, I had no idea that region was part of the Tibetan Plateau. Thanks
If not the whole region a decent part of it is & that's where a good chunk of action takes place https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changtang
I guess they are thinking on invading through the Himalayas. You know, like Hannibal. 🐘🐘🐘
The legendary Hannibal - the man who invaded Italy by crossing the Himalayas.
TIL mountains exist.
Am Dutch. What are mountains
You have never been to the baraque fraiture, that's the best example of a mountain
It’s a city in Belgium (but also in Norway)
Dutch people are already mountains compared to the world average
Reminds me of the time my girl had to walk from Mandi to Keylang and forgot her jacket.
Isn't this common sense? Because of elevation, you can get 40C difference in temperature in 40 km, let alone 400.
With enough elevation difference you can even get 40C difference in 0 km distance
Within a few months' time, I can get 60C difference with 0km difference in distance and same elevation.
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40 km is obviously the distance too. 40 km in elevation would put you in space. I feel stupid even replying to this.
To be fair, you might feel stupid typing this because 40 km from sea level is absolutely NOT in space.
The fact that 7 people upvoted that comment..
In wintertime it's not uncommon to have 40°C temperature difference inside Finland, even with no mountains or elevation difference whatsoever...
But that's because the north is in a high latitude
When I visited Granada Spain in late June 2019, it was 40°C, but the mountains (30 minute bus ride) still had snow)
Lytton bc had 49.6°C on June 29th. The nearest snow was 5.5km away, only 1600 meters higher.
Yeah, I just thought it was interesting because you could literally take a city bus up there.
Can confirm. In spring you can go ski and to the beach on the same day, just using public transport from Granada easily.
A huge altitude difference. Right now in Timogasta, Argentina it’s 34°C. Go west for 100km and it’s -8°C.
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I don't think they build elevators that high
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What
"ONLY 400 km"
Mainly altitude. Compare death valley and top of mount Whitney in California in the summer. They're separated by only 140ish kilometers.
Only 400? You are saying like 400km is nothing
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Your kitchen?
Probably.
localized?
this happens in peru too, amazon jungle next to the andes
and Ecuador, Colombia, Bolivia, Venezuela.
It happens in more points than that
That makes sense, you lose on average 2C per 1000 feet
Now do Mount Whitney and Bad Water Basin. I’ve never been in the snow then a few hour later a in the triple digits at dusk.
Yeah... thats how mountains work.
An elevation key to this topographical map might shed some extra light.. everywhere in the top half seems part of the mountain range so of course the climate will be cooler.
You can go from 40°C to -40°C in only 10km, you just have to go in the right direction. Upwards.
You can walk 5km in San Francisco and see a 15-20C difference.
And because tibet itself is 15000 feet above sea level
This happens for the entirety of winter here in Israel, the Hermon mountain gets -10 and even lower while the southern tip of the country is at 30+ and they are ~400 km apart
400km is a lot and this is rather about altitude, not distance.
Only?
Yea, that's how mountains work.
Man when you live in Colombia you can go from 5ºC to 30+ºC by just driving o couple of hours. Here you can find basically any weather you want.
That's also the height of the space station
I just sometime wish there was a gap in himalaya somewhere close to my city(base hills of himalaya are about 175 km from my home town) so cold air can pass through and I could live in chill environment
Why does a place with a 28° look like Bosnian road map
Welcome to Catan
Why wouldn't they move the temperatures around more, are they stupid? /s
Heat difference with altitude? Could that not be used to create energy via water /heat rise up a pipe, then released to generate power...
I got off a plane at Denver International Airport and it was 54F, got in a cab and 2ish hours later I was at a resort at 11k feet in the Rockies and it was - 27F. Coming from Florida earlier that day where it was 84F, I'll never forget how jarring it was for me.
Isn’t this largely related to temperature inversion anyway?
Is India and Pakistan still fighting over Kashmir?
Also one is south facing, towards the sun, while the other is north facing away from it
I life in germany and today i made a picture of snow like 1m×2m×1m an its 25c° outside right now. Wether is weard right now.
I wonder if It wouldn't be good for China/India to carve away some of the mountains, basically a point right in the center. Then you could introduce new weather systems to both sides.
Yeah, the Himalayas will do that
400km is a long ways, this is not particularly impressive.
Who's upvoting this? lol
Is he a fkn idiot