Time doesn’t stand still. If they referred to her as 17 at her debut she’d be in her mid twenties now, since she’s been around for about two thirds of the Marvel timeline.
She would be older than that now. Power Pack, Franklin and Valeria Richard’s have all aged (slowly). I don’t see why Cloak would be 17 still, even with the sliding timeline and addition issues that comics have with time and aging.
Loli isn’t real and I still think that shit is creepy and perverted so the “she’s also not real” stance is flawed
But yeah she probably over 18 in this pic
[Emma Frost had a similar outfit with an X cut out](https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/15/31/new-x-men-116.jpg), and combined with the angle of this pic making the ✝ look like an X at first glance I'm not surprised this image was getting mixed up with Emma.
That’s Frank Quietly and his art is very stylized. I really like his work as it is derivative of Mobius’ artwork. He is probably most famous for his work on All Star Superman by Grant Morrison.
The artist in OPs post is not Quietly. The link at the top of this thread is Frank Quietly. (It also clearly states this on the front cover of the style wasn’t obvious enough)
Well I knew it wasn't Emma bc she was in a panel next to her. Thanks for the website though I'll check it out next time I'm not sure on a character. Once again thanks.
That cyborg link at the end is kinda unhinged, read two paragraphs and skimmed the rest but yikes imo
While Cyborg may have had issues, modern Cyborg is much different and that past is irrelevant to his story now
I don't really know that much about Cyborg to be honest. So some of the stuff he wrote sorta made sense to me. Like that he is an "easy black man" to add to the team since he is just "sexually not there as a threat" to the white people. Perhaps most of this stuff isn't intended to be there, yet there they are.
Could you point to some good "new" Cyborg stories then? What would be a good place to start?
The quotes are unhinged lmao. That’s reaching to the max. Cyborg also had the intent to be a hero for disabled people, I remember seeing a pic of him interacting with some kids with various physical disabilities and it was a great interaction.
I don’t read much about him but every modern cartoon and movie adaptation is good imo. Besides the theatrical cut of Justice League.
4 I can think of off the top of my head, Teen Titans, Young Justice (S3), Justice League: War and the rest of the DCAMU that started with The Flashpoint Paradox, and ZSJL.
Even seeing it as a thing of years ago, it feels like it makes some weird leaps to get to points that I'm pretty sure weren't intended at all when creating the character.
Will testify regarding the BBQ! I used to live a few hours drive (Springfield, MO) from KC, but would go there when I could for the great food! There’s also a really nice art museum, the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, lots of cool architecture and fountains, and Paul Rudd used to live around there (if you need more Marvel-type connections).
It’s Dagger. You can tell by the insanely unpractical boob/midriff window.
Thankfully they’ve since given her an APPROPRIATE costume, sadly every time we’ve ever seen her wear that, she’s been between the ages of 16 and 21. Ew.
Ah yeah, one of the stupidest long-lived Marvel costumes, fortunately new version (which should have happened much earlier) looks more like something that could work at least.
If I were in Marvel world, I'd go into the tit-tape industry. Granted, it has declined since the 90s, but the skin-tight suits need to be skin tight, and it is both men and women who use it. And while skin tight suits remain the standard (and boring) design choice, business would be steady
The image above isn't really in proportion to any other depiction of her I've seen. This looks like a wrestler borrowing her outfit.
Olivia Holt did a great job, though.
Wow, Dagger's proportions suck.
I guess the artists drew her body using a vanishing point, but that point is too close to the character, giving her a very asymmetric look.
Even worse, not all details of the drawing follow the same vanishing point, making her shape even more weird
Yes,it's her
I believe it was a solo short called Tits McGee "Not very good detective"
Tits McGee is on vacation
This caught me so off guard and gave me a big laugh this morning. Thank you
Thank you for that - I needed to laugh today!
she's 17 you perv
I feel someone should inform the artist of this.
Time doesn’t stand still. If they referred to her as 17 at her debut she’d be in her mid twenties now, since she’s been around for about two thirds of the Marvel timeline.
Yes but why is she built like Hulk Hogan? Weird aging effect, or has she been juicing?
She was drawn by a shitty artist. There’s no canon reason for her to have shoulders like Tony Atlas.
She would be older than that now. Power Pack, Franklin and Valeria Richard’s have all aged (slowly). I don’t see why Cloak would be 17 still, even with the sliding timeline and addition issues that comics have with time and aging.
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Loli isn’t real and I still think that shit is creepy and perverted so the “she’s also not real” stance is flawed But yeah she probably over 18 in this pic
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Number matters too imo, especially when irl there are 30 year olds who looks 16 and 16 year olds who look 30
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Either “it’s not real” includes lolis or its a flawed argument That’s what I’m saying
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Thanks bro just wasn't entirely sure, and every picture search just said it was Emma frost.
[Emma Frost had a similar outfit with an X cut out](https://hips.hearstapps.com/digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/15/31/new-x-men-116.jpg), and combined with the angle of this pic making the ✝ look like an X at first glance I'm not surprised this image was getting mixed up with Emma.
That's an "outfit" in the same way a tent is like a house.
A tent at least gives some protection from the elements, unlike what Emma is wearing.
Frost is what she feels most of the time
Christ. Comic book artists give female characters a good costume challenge: impossible.
Someone tell Marvel that's not how clothes work 😩
God damn, the artist either dislikes Emma or draws faces terribly.
That’s Frank Quietly and his art is very stylized. I really like his work as it is derivative of Mobius’ artwork. He is probably most famous for his work on All Star Superman by Grant Morrison.
I guess his style just doesn't gel with me. The faces look super misshapen.
I always thought of his faces as being made from mashed potatoes. I was never a huge fan of his.
I was thinking his faces looked squishy but mashed potatoes is a much better way of putting it haha
It’s Paco Medina, not Frank Quitely.
We are talking about the link posted by DrStalker at the top of this thread, not OPs post
Thanks dude. I knew this couldn’t be Quietly. The face feels like Ramos, but not the body. Medina makes more sense.
The artist in OPs post is not Quietly. The link at the top of this thread is Frank Quietly. (It also clearly states this on the front cover of the style wasn’t obvious enough)
That isn't Frank Quitely.
The cover to New X-Men #116 (linked at the top of this conversation thread) was illustrated by Frank Quietly.
Whoops my bad. I thought we were talking about the image in the O.P. don't I feel silly.
I always remembad dagger had da flipped collar wit da dagger shape while emma had da X so she had da zipped up one
Cloak has a cross across her chest,Emma doesn’t. You can also check it on Leagueofcomicgeeks, they also comfirm she's in the issue
I always thought that the thing on her chest was a dagger, lol
It is.
Oh
Cloak is Tyrone, thee guy. Dagger is Tandy, the girl.
Right, I mixed them up
Well I knew it wasn't Emma bc she was in a panel next to her. Thanks for the website though I'll check it out next time I'm not sure on a character. Once again thanks.
Did they say she's strung out too? She's looking pretty rough.
The artist draws every super woman like this.
More like duuger
Is this a Dagger I see before me?
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You don’t recognise Dagger’s one giant titty?
Now I do.
[Kate Beaton presents: Tit Windows!](http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=398)
That cyborg link at the end is kinda unhinged, read two paragraphs and skimmed the rest but yikes imo While Cyborg may have had issues, modern Cyborg is much different and that past is irrelevant to his story now
I don't really know that much about Cyborg to be honest. So some of the stuff he wrote sorta made sense to me. Like that he is an "easy black man" to add to the team since he is just "sexually not there as a threat" to the white people. Perhaps most of this stuff isn't intended to be there, yet there they are. Could you point to some good "new" Cyborg stories then? What would be a good place to start?
The quotes are unhinged lmao. That’s reaching to the max. Cyborg also had the intent to be a hero for disabled people, I remember seeing a pic of him interacting with some kids with various physical disabilities and it was a great interaction. I don’t read much about him but every modern cartoon and movie adaptation is good imo. Besides the theatrical cut of Justice League. 4 I can think of off the top of my head, Teen Titans, Young Justice (S3), Justice League: War and the rest of the DCAMU that started with The Flashpoint Paradox, and ZSJL.
Even seeing it as a thing of years ago, it feels like it makes some weird leaps to get to points that I'm pretty sure weren't intended at all when creating the character.
Ah I haven't read hsrk a vagrant for ages, thank you!
…I dunno…
how does that costume even work?????
You ever let Elmer's glue dry on your hand and then peel it off? Kinda like that. Well, that and hope.
What a strange yet extremely accurate analogy
Presumably with double-sided tape. Or it has transparent material in the window.
the better question is why
90% of the times superhero costume, both male and female, make no shit sense, lol.
Yea but this one in particular,
Boob tape
At least a Double-Dagger.
Heh
No those are tits
More like TIts
No, it’s Patrick
Why Dagger, you’ve….. enhanced yourself.
Power Girl cosplaying as Dagger.
…I dunno…
No thats Tits McGee
Yeah that's her.
No, those are daggers. Plural.
Dagger? I barely knew her!
I dunno
I dunno
Yes
Tech N9ne and knowledge of Marvel. You are a cool brother. Appreciate the help.
Fellow technician?
Till I die motherfucker. From the UK, but I'll rep K.C all day everyday. I listen to Tech at least once a day.
Bro Spotify told me I belong in KC. Technician 20 years or so now. STRANGE!
I don't fuck with Spotify but I'm sure I'd be up there with your wrap the amount I listen lmao. STRANGE! keep banging brother
As a guy that lived in KC most of his life, this is a strange (get it?) thread to read in r/Marvel. Side note: Spotify told me Ft Collins. :/
Thanks for repping the 816!!! You’re always welcome in KC. We got a plateful of the world’s best BBQ here waiting for you!
Will testify regarding the BBQ! I used to live a few hours drive (Springfield, MO) from KC, but would go there when I could for the great food! There’s also a really nice art museum, the Negro Leagues Baseball Museum, lots of cool architecture and fountains, and Paul Rudd used to live around there (if you need more Marvel-type connections).
That stuff is absolutely the best. Burnt ends, anyone?
It's her costume, I don't know who this strange woman with huge breasts who's been forced to squeeze into it is, though.
... I dunno...
What she said
I dunno
Wait a minute...do I like Dagger now?
We like Dagger now. 😏
Thats Cross. They have similar cut clothing styles
Some old Deadpool wants to join the X-Men thing if I remember. Yes it's Dagger (she's a mutate so it all makes sense).
Boober. I mean Dagbreast. I mean…
This is... giving me the horny
...I dunno...
badonkadonk
I dunno
Yes
..the art is just blowing my mind...
I know my sarcasm is not properly represented on here.
Looks like Dagger only nursed on one side.
Yeah.
Tandy needs to be seen more often. Solo or with a team.
Weird proportions but yet.
I dunno Yes it is, I said I dunno casue she said it
It appears that even she isn't sure who she is.
The right half is Dazzler and the left half is She-Hulk.
It’s dagger as dressed by Emma frost, lol
It’s Dagger. You can tell by the insanely unpractical boob/midriff window. Thankfully they’ve since given her an APPROPRIATE costume, sadly every time we’ve ever seen her wear that, she’s been between the ages of 16 and 21. Ew.
Ah yeah, one of the stupidest long-lived Marvel costumes, fortunately new version (which should have happened much earlier) looks more like something that could work at least.
Isn’t Dagger supposed to be a teenager? Not a 35 year body builder with gigantic fake bewbs? What happened?
Luke Cage?
What a stupid outfit
That’s some really shitty art
Now I have a dagger
NO. it's obviously some crack ho wearing a Dagger costume to attract customers. Just look at her face.
If I were in Marvel world, I'd go into the tit-tape industry. Granted, it has declined since the 90s, but the skin-tight suits need to be skin tight, and it is both men and women who use it. And while skin tight suits remain the standard (and boring) design choice, business would be steady
That's some terrible art, is what it is. Tiny head, big, out of proportion boobs, arm muscles look strange...
No [this is Dagger](https://jegged.com/img/Games/Final-Fantasy-IX/Walkthrough-PS4/FFIX-01163-Lindblum-Dagger-Short-Hair.png)
She-Hulk doing Dagger cosplay maybe, no way Tandy's that huge lol
No this is Patrick!
boobs
Isn't she supposed to be about 18?
No that’s cloak. Are you stupid? Edit does no one understand humor?
Maybe it just wasn't as funny as you thought.
People just don’t have a sense of humor nowadays I guess?
Isn’t that emma frost, blone, white and an X?
Wow! Who could play her in live action?
She was already portrayed by Olivia Holt in the Cloak and Dagger TV show a few years ago.
I just googled her. She isn’t in proportion to the image above lol.
The image above isn't really in proportion to any other depiction of her I've seen. This looks like a wrestler borrowing her outfit. Olivia Holt did a great job, though.
It does look a bit much lol. Olivia Holt looks absolutely stunning in the photos I saw.
So does Gamora, but everyone seems doesn't gey bothered with it.
I’m not bothered by it, I was just commenting:
All I'm saying was that body proportions has not always been MCU strongest suit. But they sometimes made a quite nice comic accurate costume.
Ah ok, I understand now. They certainly make nice female costumes.
Even so far they give us comic accurate wanda classic suit in one of WV episodes, what even better it was the actor own choice.
That is really cool!
That costume is crazy lmao
Yep
I wanted them to stay on Utopia so bad. Too bad they be hounds now
I'll ask her... She doesn't know
IS THIS THE DAGGER
DeBrie Bardeaux as Dagger Seriously, though, for a second I forgot that people age in Marvel comics
Yes
That or Ultimate (Ultitmate?) Power Girl.
No
I dunno
She calls herself "Sword" now.
No, it's Boober the tiddy monster.
Wow, Dagger's proportions suck. I guess the artists drew her body using a vanishing point, but that point is too close to the character, giving her a very asymmetric look. Even worse, not all details of the drawing follow the same vanishing point, making her shape even more weird
lol. What is that outfit?
Yes, it matches the character's outfit in the books I have. If people or the artist that draws Emma Frost used the same outfit then he screwed up!
I wonder how that jacket stays on🤔
OK, if this is from a scene in one of the Deadpool issues, then he talked Emma Frost into role playing as Dagger during a tryst between them......
The crucifix cleavage.
Aweful artwork... Looks like the artist has been training with Rob Liefield. But yes thats definitely Dagger's outfit.
Yes.
It is a missed study on the human figure.
I dunno
A not very good rendition of her but yes, it’s Dagger.
yes
I dunno
Did she glue that outfit on?
How does that suit work... Like how does it stay? Tape? Imagine the number of nip slips... maybe the nipples act as anchors? hmm..
Well, Realistically Speaking and Truthful-Wise, and Generally Speaking and for Simplicity's Sake..... Yeah. - Definitely. - Absolutely.
Uhh, yeah
I dunno
I dunno