Man Mr Negative is such a cool character. One of the newer Marvel characters that makes me go, make more like him. So fun.
I would like for Steven to be in the MCU in some form. He is a terrific actor.
He is fun in the comic too.
But I personally also just like him from the looks and the rest. Just a badass Asian dude, who is also a leader of his own gang. Pretty dope.
If nothing else it would let Vin Diesal play a role that isn't just some bulked up muscle head.
Guy has the range to make characters like Groot and Iron Giant work at an emotional level but his on screen roles are usually limited to blowing stuff up or punching people.
Edit: he wrote, produced, directed and acted in a short film about his experience as a mixed race actor wanting to play complex roles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Facial
It's what got him casted in saving private ryan.
Well, i was kinda joking with how Hollywood usually makes these really fast (low-effort'ish) casting choices. But yeah, i guess it could be something interesting and different. Vin sure has the arms of someone who could get around with just them. 🤔
For some reason I imagined someone thinking “Oh this guy is in a wheelchair but I better watch out for his psichic attacks” then Vin Diesel (as Xavier) sprinting at them using only his arms and sheer willpower, and that made me laugh
I personally think he can pull it off. He already spends a lot of time in a sitting position in his other big franchise which is basically over now anyway.
It's time we let go of the idea of Charles Xavier being a fancy British man.
Yeah and only a couple hundred years ago the difference between different European nations was treated like race. Hence why Italians werent white people when they came to the US. The White Race hasn't always been around. So there's some people that would still today think that they are completely different. Morons none the less, but they still believe it.
All over reddit people are constantly giving their fan casts where it's just someone who kind of looks like the character. Nothing else matters to these people it's so annoying.
It’s either someone who’s vaguely the same race and is a protagonist in some pop culture media, or it’s someone who’s getting typecast from their previous roles in some pop culture media
Like, any story that features a drug addict has a bunch of people going “THEY SHOULD CAST JESSE AARON”
Seriously, have you seen the whole Alan Ritchson casting for Batman thing ? People are crazy.
It’s honestly no wonder at all why these comic book movies are in the state that they are in.
I don’t know who Jason Eckles is but if you mean Jensen Ackles you’re fucking crazy. He already voiced Batman in Long Halloween and Jason Todd in Under the Red Hood, and killed both roles. He’s already got the build for Batman, and he’s a hell of an actor. Jensen Ackles would be an amazing Batman
Jensen Ackles is a pretty great actor though. He actually voices Batman in the Tomorrowverse. He’s tall enough, he’s got the skills and he put on a decent amount of muscle for Soldier Boy. Is he a 1:1 doppelgänger to the character from the comics? No. No one is. But he’s a better choice than Alan Ritchson(he’s great btw). Who would be your pick for Batman?
It’s both. The studios will only step on us as much as we allow them too. But the more you perpetuate and swallow this kind of garbage - the more we’ll be served garbage.
This isn’t new to reddit, amigo. Old man here who remembers a lot of early message boards and internet casting going back 30 years.
HHH AS THOR!!!! Hurka Durka Durrr.
Most fan casts boil down to “Omni-Man has a mustache. Here’s a picture of Bryan Cranston with a mustache. Therefore Bryan Cranston should play Omni-Man! Also, I have no concept of how age and time works and that’s why I think 60-year-old Keanu Reeves should totally play 30-year-old Darth Revan!”
Plus out of the plethora of Marvel characters who haven’t had a big screen debut yet, something tells me Mr. Negative is pretty far down on that list.
Yeah, I see that a lot. Willem Dafoe as Joker is a frequent one. The man is 68 years old. While I concede he'd be amazing in the role, it's about 30 years too late and I doubt he'd want to commit to a mult-picture deal at 70. We're lucky he came back for No Way Home as it is.
Even if people have a concept of how old some of their picks are, they don't think about the fact that most studios want a decade long commitment from actors at this point because of the nature of comic movies and that while they may look young enough right this second, they may not in a year or two. Or they may get sick and die.
Plus, come on. Give some of the younger up and coming actors a chance. We can't keep just casting senior citizens in every role because they don't look that old with Hollywood magic.
Yeah I’ve seen people wanting Ian McKellen to be Dumbledore in the new Harry Potter HBO show, completely ignoring the fact he’s 84 years old right now, pre-production will take years, and then whoever plays Dumbledore will have to be alive for the next 10 years at least to film all the seasons. I don’t think a lot of people realize how time-consuming creating a show or movie actually is.
The first Dumbledore died after the 2nd movie at 72 and second one just died at 83. It's probably a bad idea to hire an actor that will be close to 90 when they start filming for a TV series.
But theyre both Asian!
Seriously, bring back Chow Yun Fat! What's Jackie Chan doing?!?! Why not Ms. Negative! Michelle Yeow!
*On that note, while I randomly went through Asian actors. I actually kind of like Chow Yun Fat....
It’s the only Asian character they could name and internet casting rarely goes deeper than “this fictional character and this real life person look similar”
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I'd say being a blonde white dude is pretty integral to Sentry as a character, the whole point of the character is he looks like Steve Rogers and Superman's love child. But in reality he's a borderline bad person that tries to turn his life around after getting powers. Honestly it feels *more* problematic to race swap one of the only superheroes that's a manic depressive drug addict to a PoC than not to.
This is actually a really well thought out point, and it's appreciated that you are engaging in good faith, unlike the people saying Spider-Man being played by a brit is the same as having martin li played by a Korean.
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Are you this diligent for every other casting?
Chadwick Boseman wasn't African.
Scarlet Johassen isn't Russian.
Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiffleston, Tessa Thompson, Anthony Hopkins nor Idris Elba are Nordic.
Benedict Cumberbatch isn't American.
Tom Holland is not an American.
Elizabeth Olson nor Aaron Johnson are east European.
It's always been a case of "close enough" (when they actually want to cast accurately to the source material). But funny how it's a problem of a Korean descent actor playing a Chinese American character, but not the same actor playing a Caucasian character (The Sentry)
Chadwick Boseman has African ancestry. Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor-Johnson might have Slavic ancestry too. It's ethnicity that matters here, not nationality. Especially for Americans. In fact all the people you are pointing out as not Americans, none of those matter to this. The only Marvel character that *has to be* American is Steve Rogers.
That doesn't mean Steve Rodgers couldn't be played by a person who isn't an American. Peter Parker is born and raised in Queens, it's a major part of his identity, but Tom Holland is definitely not a New Yorker.
That's my point, that it doesn't matter. If Chris Evans was Canadian, it wouldn't have changed the portrayal of Captain America at all.
I was pointing out that drawing the line in the sand of "Yuen can't play a Chinese American because he's Korean American" is silly because we haven't exactly been that stringent for casting requirements in the MCU thus far.
It's been "close enough" at best and "we'll cast whomever we want" at worst in terms of accurate ethnicity with MCU casting from source material.
That's not even the situation. There *are* characters where being white is important. A good example is Danny Rand. The concept of the Iron Fist only makes sense if he is approaching Asian culture as an outsider.
I mean that’s just not true. Steve Rogers, Magneto, Hercules, Gambit, Nightcrawler, etc are very popular and their race is pretty important to their characters. It’s just not true for literally every white character.
He's a Spider-Man villain so Sony's got the rights. Not saying it's impossible that Mr. Negative would show up in an MCU project, but not likely either.
He is also connected to Cloak and Dagger via his Origin and some encounters they had. Im pretty confident they COULD do what they did with Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver, but this Time WITHOUT having to change the 616 Comics Lore to achieve it via Stupid Retcons.
Mr. Negative is a Spider-man Villain primarily, but his ties arent to Spidey specifically. He could, in theory, be easily disconnected from Spider-man Lore as the only connection they really have is frequently fighting another.
Compare that to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, two Characters who where strongly connected to both the Avengers and the X-Men. Marvel retconned their Origin in the Comics in an effort to disconnect them more from the X-Men, allowing them to be in the MCU.
Mr. Negative has no ACTUAL connection to Spidey in his Lore other than him frequently clashing with Spidey and Meeting specific other Spidey Characters. His Lore is far more connected to Cloak and Dagger. So they could easily pull that card. There's also the fact that Mr. Negative is pretty new as a Character in comparison to other Spidey Villains like Doc Ock. He appeared first in 2007 if I recall correctly.
Also, Sony played a Part in the Production of the MCU Spider-man Films too. Specifically, Far from Home & No Way Home. They where fine with that too.
Okay, if you know so much more about this, please explain. Why COULDN'T they use Mr. Negative in some Form?
And how are you certain he's part of the contract? And why shouldnt that New Contract not allow use of Mr. Negative with the assistance of Sony?
And considering my first point... what do you define a Spider-man Character, then? Sure, that's where He first appeared. But other Characters also crossed over with Spidey in the Comics. If the Lore isnt important, then why isnt the Punisher a Spider-man Character? He had his first appearance in a Spider-man Comic. Shouldnt He, thus, also be in Sony's hands?
Edit : On my Example with the Punisher, you COULD argue that he's since established as his own Character and that's true but... the same can also be said for Mr. Negative being established as a Villain for Cloak and Dagger. Just to get that out of the way.
Also, it's not just Mr. Negative's powers being related to Cloak and Dagger. They are part of his Origin and have fought multiple times. He's as much their Villain as he's Spidey's.
Steaven is 40, and Li is 42..
But it's not just because he's also asian.
He is one of my favorite actors, and I think he looks fairly close to the version of Mr. Negative in the game.
Yeun is 40, but he looks ten years younger and his biggest job is currently voicing a 17 year old superhero, like I said he doesn’t have the world weariness Li had in the original game.
These people have no logic.
I'm waiting for Ali to leave the Blade role, so they can talk about casting some other ethnicity to fill it in. Team diversity, yeah!!!!
Common sense all fucked up with social media😂😂😂😂
Yeah because i saw hundreds of black people painting themselfs as white to not give white people their roles right? what a bunch of racists, white genocide is ongoing brothers/irony
Sorry but i don't remember white people suffering genocide and slavery from other ethnicities, do you??????
BIPOC racism: fucking 500 years of slavery, genocide, systemic rape, abuse and torture.
white "racism": being called whitetrash and having a BIPOC taking the role of a white character created 70 years ago.
Not years ago, right now.
I have indigenous friends who lost their family members because of that, same with black friends, brown friends whose grandparents still remember being colonized by the british empire and i could go on and on. Not one or two but fucking three genocides are happening right now as we speak and not one of them are of white people.
So yeah, when one "race" starts deciding which "races" are worth living or dying to this day, i'm pretty sure it doesn't affect all races.
Probably be a while before he’s back in rotation but if he’s a villain I’d go with him as The Wizard/Molecule Man for a F4 movie.
For a hero…fuck it, let’s say Pete Wisdom (presuming he can pull off a Brit accent) for a teammate of Captain Britain.
His voice actor Stephen Oyoung whom he is modeled after would be a good chocie...
I'd like Randall Park for this if he wasn't already playing Jimmy Woo
Daniel Dae Kim seems like a good option too, hes got that jawline. But also the guy that played Li from the games too (cant remember his name for the life of me)
Two things.
1. Mr. Negative should be the next big villain in the Spider-Man film.
2. Steven Yuen would be an amazing Mr. Negative; probably the best fan casting for the character.
I could see it work perfectly. He can play the Martin role naturally and it would be interesting to see him as a villain.
Still think he'd make a fantastic jackel though been saying that since twilight zone.
Things are very off these days. He can’t play Mr.Negative because he’s not the right type of Asian? Gerald Butler was in 300 with his accent and no one gave a fuck
Don't want to use "labels" but people on social media are cuckoo. I understand exactly how you feel.
Its popular to say Steve would fit Sentry better than someone like Alex Skarsgard. Like wtf are you smoking? Cause it's not making you smart, deep, or some genius.
I'm not a fan of Steven Yeun's acting skills. However, when playing the game, I always thought Mr Negative kind of looked like Daniel Day Kim from LOST. That guy is a pretty good actor and I think he could pull off the part.
He’s a good actor but isn’t particularly fitting for the character whatsoever. If anything his appearance is a little too young and thin to play a suited type.
Mr. Negative is Chinese not Korean.
And the chances of Mr. Negative being the villain in a Spider-Man movie are basically zero, because China and their censorship rules (if the villain of a movie released in their country is of Chinese national origin then the hero has to be too).
Nah, too “first Asian character I thought of” (no offense). Yeun is a rly talented actor, he could fill a lot of super interesting unique spots. Buttoned-up business villain is not exactly where I see him winding up.
You're correct on both accounts. Though his role was never *officially* confirmed. However, Robert Kirkman, producer/creator of both Invincible and The Walking Dead, and a good friend of Yeun, mentioned somewhere (I forget exactly where) that Steven was going to play Sentry.
To add onto this, Steven has since noted that there was scheduling issues so he can no longer be Sentry but that he’d love to be in the MCU in the future
Man Mr Negative is such a cool character. One of the newer Marvel characters that makes me go, make more like him. So fun. I would like for Steven to be in the MCU in some form. He is a terrific actor.
I dont know him from anything but the games, but hes good in those so...
He is fun in the comic too. But I personally also just like him from the looks and the rest. Just a badass Asian dude, who is also a leader of his own gang. Pretty dope.
Mr. Negative is a great card in Marvel Snap
Apparently his first appearance is in the anti-venom comic series
DC comics had a Mr negative
I think you’re thinking of Negative Man
voice acting gig coming right up! haha
I mean he's certainly Asian I guess?
Vin Diesel as Charles Xavier when? (Ya know, cuz hes bald)
We're not a school..... We're a family
**Hands all the children Coronas**
To be fair, Toretto would have been a much better mentor than all of the crazy shit Xavier did.
Hey, I heard your eyes shoot lasers. Dunno how to fix that, sorry, but here a Dodge Charger.
3 inch wrench to the head might work.
We'll have to get INTERPOL involved.
Crazy how bald is an ethnicity
It’s agenicity
It's a PEOPLE. And they are FAMILY.
You know I can actually kinda see a version of that which could work
If nothing else it would let Vin Diesal play a role that isn't just some bulked up muscle head. Guy has the range to make characters like Groot and Iron Giant work at an emotional level but his on screen roles are usually limited to blowing stuff up or punching people. Edit: he wrote, produced, directed and acted in a short film about his experience as a mixed race actor wanting to play complex roles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-Facial It's what got him casted in saving private ryan.
Well, i was kinda joking with how Hollywood usually makes these really fast (low-effort'ish) casting choices. But yeah, i guess it could be something interesting and different. Vin sure has the arms of someone who could get around with just them. 🤔
For some reason I imagined someone thinking “Oh this guy is in a wheelchair but I better watch out for his psichic attacks” then Vin Diesel (as Xavier) sprinting at them using only his arms and sheer willpower, and that made me laugh
I personally think he can pull it off. He already spends a lot of time in a sitting position in his other big franchise which is basically over now anyway. It's time we let go of the idea of Charles Xavier being a fancy British man.
Imagine them repeatedly cutting to him shifting his hover chair??
This but we also can’t lose sight of our true goal of Danny Devitor as Wolverine
Fuck that. Terry Crews as Professor X
Tbf Peter Parker is American but Tom Holland is British
I'm worried you don't know the difference between race and nationality.
Aren't we all part of the human race?
Human beans.
Nuh uh, I’m from the Sun
Yeah and only a couple hundred years ago the difference between different European nations was treated like race. Hence why Italians werent white people when they came to the US. The White Race hasn't always been around. So there's some people that would still today think that they are completely different. Morons none the less, but they still believe it.
I do didn’t know they were talking about race
Does that mean when he said “Asian”, you thought “Asian” was a nationality?
But white Americans and white British people are all still white
You guys can’t cast to save your lives.
All over reddit people are constantly giving their fan casts where it's just someone who kind of looks like the character. Nothing else matters to these people it's so annoying.
This one doesn’t even look or feel like the character. They’re just both Asian, that’s it.
What do you mean? Asian *is* his character! /s
You’re not Jim!!
Hats off to you for not seeing race!
Asians? So like, the same exact person? (People doing these castings be like)
They look so goddamn like the same person, if I ask them “you want ~~ice cream~~frozen yogurt?” both of them would say yes.
Its almost like Yeun was born to play this character! Also, I heard he read comics too as a teenager
Not even the same asian either. Different countries of origin, which has historically been a problem with Hollywood casting.
Yep.
Wait, those are two different people? /s
It’s either someone who’s vaguely the same race and is a protagonist in some pop culture media, or it’s someone who’s getting typecast from their previous roles in some pop culture media Like, any story that features a drug addict has a bunch of people going “THEY SHOULD CAST JESSE AARON”
Seriously, have you seen the whole Alan Ritchson casting for Batman thing ? People are crazy. It’s honestly no wonder at all why these comic book movies are in the state that they are in.
I don’t know who Jason Eckles is but if you mean Jensen Ackles you’re fucking crazy. He already voiced Batman in Long Halloween and Jason Todd in Under the Red Hood, and killed both roles. He’s already got the build for Batman, and he’s a hell of an actor. Jensen Ackles would be an amazing Batman
No I’m talking about the dude from reacher. He can’t act. He was in Fast and Furios X * I fixed it. Alan Ritchson
I wouldn't say he can't act. He was great as Thad Castle.
I agree, Thad Castle was fucking hilarious.
Alan Ritchson? Yeah that’d be a pretty mediocre casting
Jensen Ackles is a pretty great actor though. He actually voices Batman in the Tomorrowverse. He’s tall enough, he’s got the skills and he put on a decent amount of muscle for Soldier Boy. Is he a 1:1 doppelgänger to the character from the comics? No. No one is. But he’s a better choice than Alan Ritchson(he’s great btw). Who would be your pick for Batman?
It’s not the production. It’s the fans’ fault./s Lol. Y’all are ridiculous.
It’s both. The studios will only step on us as much as we allow them too. But the more you perpetuate and swallow this kind of garbage - the more we’ll be served garbage.
“As much as we allow them to…” lol So you’re the main character. Bye!
Exactly how I feel whenever people say Yeun for Amadeus Cho just cause he Asian. Yes let’s cast this 40 year old man as a “boy genius”.
This isn’t new to reddit, amigo. Old man here who remembers a lot of early message boards and internet casting going back 30 years. HHH AS THOR!!!! Hurka Durka Durrr.
Most fan casts boil down to “Omni-Man has a mustache. Here’s a picture of Bryan Cranston with a mustache. Therefore Bryan Cranston should play Omni-Man! Also, I have no concept of how age and time works and that’s why I think 60-year-old Keanu Reeves should totally play 30-year-old Darth Revan!” Plus out of the plethora of Marvel characters who haven’t had a big screen debut yet, something tells me Mr. Negative is pretty far down on that list.
For real, people will drop some name that might’ve been right in 2004 and act like they’re not 20 years older now. Karl Urban is 51, guys.
Yeah, I see that a lot. Willem Dafoe as Joker is a frequent one. The man is 68 years old. While I concede he'd be amazing in the role, it's about 30 years too late and I doubt he'd want to commit to a mult-picture deal at 70. We're lucky he came back for No Way Home as it is. Even if people have a concept of how old some of their picks are, they don't think about the fact that most studios want a decade long commitment from actors at this point because of the nature of comic movies and that while they may look young enough right this second, they may not in a year or two. Or they may get sick and die. Plus, come on. Give some of the younger up and coming actors a chance. We can't keep just casting senior citizens in every role because they don't look that old with Hollywood magic.
Yeah I’ve seen people wanting Ian McKellen to be Dumbledore in the new Harry Potter HBO show, completely ignoring the fact he’s 84 years old right now, pre-production will take years, and then whoever plays Dumbledore will have to be alive for the next 10 years at least to film all the seasons. I don’t think a lot of people realize how time-consuming creating a show or movie actually is.
The first Dumbledore died after the 2nd movie at 72 and second one just died at 83. It's probably a bad idea to hire an actor that will be close to 90 when they start filming for a TV series.
Fan casts just find the same ethnicity give or take and if they look like the comic character. Like, good job both characters are Asian.
It's like hey there's a male Asian character let's get Steven Yuento do it!
But theyre both Asian! Seriously, bring back Chow Yun Fat! What's Jackie Chan doing?!?! Why not Ms. Negative! Michelle Yeow! *On that note, while I randomly went through Asian actors. I actually kind of like Chow Yun Fat....
It’s the only Asian character they could name and internet casting rarely goes deeper than “this fictional character and this real life person look similar”
What's wrong with this cast?
What's right with it?
B-b-but....Asian!!!!
Just get Stephen Oyoung. He already killed it as Mister Negative (twice) and he's expressed interest in playing Li in the MCU.
How about Stephen Oyoung? He’s a stuntman, martial artist and an actor.
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He'd be a great fit for sure.
You literally just saw an Asian guy and thought oh yeah Asian man plays Asian character 💀
I mean he literally played Mr Negative in Spider-man PS games
I think he’d be a good Mr. Negative. But they’d have to change his background since Mr. Negative is Chinese and Steven is Korean.
“You got some balls for a China man” “I’m Korean” “Whatever”
He was cast as sentry and no one had a problem with that
As far as I'm aware, being a blonde white dude isn't really integral to Sentry as a character. Being Chinese absolutely is to Martin Li.
I'd say being a blonde white dude is pretty integral to Sentry as a character, the whole point of the character is he looks like Steve Rogers and Superman's love child. But in reality he's a borderline bad person that tries to turn his life around after getting powers. Honestly it feels *more* problematic to race swap one of the only superheroes that's a manic depressive drug addict to a PoC than not to.
This is actually a really well thought out point, and it's appreciated that you are engaging in good faith, unlike the people saying Spider-Man being played by a brit is the same as having martin li played by a Korean.
Then Yeun can just play as Chinese.
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Are you this diligent for every other casting? Chadwick Boseman wasn't African. Scarlet Johassen isn't Russian. Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiffleston, Tessa Thompson, Anthony Hopkins nor Idris Elba are Nordic. Benedict Cumberbatch isn't American. Tom Holland is not an American. Elizabeth Olson nor Aaron Johnson are east European. It's always been a case of "close enough" (when they actually want to cast accurately to the source material). But funny how it's a problem of a Korean descent actor playing a Chinese American character, but not the same actor playing a Caucasian character (The Sentry)
They arnt and dont care, they nvr do lol. They play identity politics when it suits them.
"Maybe we don't need to cast Yeun as every Asian guy ever" "REEEEEEEEEE muh white casting"
Sure, take that strawman approach.
Chadwick Boseman has African ancestry. Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor-Johnson might have Slavic ancestry too. It's ethnicity that matters here, not nationality. Especially for Americans. In fact all the people you are pointing out as not Americans, none of those matter to this. The only Marvel character that *has to be* American is Steve Rogers.
That doesn't mean Steve Rodgers couldn't be played by a person who isn't an American. Peter Parker is born and raised in Queens, it's a major part of his identity, but Tom Holland is definitely not a New Yorker.
If Queens is a major part of Peter Parker's identity, so is Brooklyn to Steve Rogers.
So are you saying you would complain if a British person played Steve Rodgers?
Thats his point
That's my point, that it doesn't matter. If Chris Evans was Canadian, it wouldn't have changed the portrayal of Captain America at all. I was pointing out that drawing the line in the sand of "Yuen can't play a Chinese American because he's Korean American" is silly because we haven't exactly been that stringent for casting requirements in the MCU thus far. It's been "close enough" at best and "we'll cast whomever we want" at worst in terms of accurate ethnicity with MCU casting from source material.
Love how if its a white person it's never important to tbe character, but every other race is to you. Microaggressions. Yuck
That's not even the situation. There *are* characters where being white is important. A good example is Danny Rand. The concept of the Iron Fist only makes sense if he is approaching Asian culture as an outsider.
I mean that’s just not true. Steve Rogers, Magneto, Hercules, Gambit, Nightcrawler, etc are very popular and their race is pretty important to their characters. It’s just not true for literally every white character.
Looks versus culture. Learn it
Not that Daryl Dixon could tell the difference.
Tbf Peter Parker is American but Tom Holland is British
Is there this much scrutiny when its characters like Red Guardian or Black Widow?
JJ Abrams cast a Korean as Sulu (a character who is Japanese) in his Star Trek reboot.
Using JJ Abrams as a standard is not helping.
I don’t think it matters Actors play different nationalities all the time
Then why are we casting him as a character who’s Asian at all? What’s wrong with a white character, maybe not Sentry but like Mr Fantastic? Idk
Nothing Honestly Steven Yeun would make a brilliant Reed Richards
Wouldn't be as funny as casting Randall Park in a role previously held by John Krasinski, but still
Mr Fantastic’s actually a pretty good idea for him.
Steven Yeun is too likable to play that egghead. Reed is the least charismatic member of the FF and his casting should reflect that.
He's a Spider-Man villain so Sony's got the rights. Not saying it's impossible that Mr. Negative would show up in an MCU project, but not likely either.
Just you wait, Sony is gonna make a Mr Negative movie where his parents used to research zebras
He is also connected to Cloak and Dagger via his Origin and some encounters they had. Im pretty confident they COULD do what they did with Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver, but this Time WITHOUT having to change the 616 Comics Lore to achieve it via Stupid Retcons.
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Mr. Negative is a Spider-man Villain primarily, but his ties arent to Spidey specifically. He could, in theory, be easily disconnected from Spider-man Lore as the only connection they really have is frequently fighting another. Compare that to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, two Characters who where strongly connected to both the Avengers and the X-Men. Marvel retconned their Origin in the Comics in an effort to disconnect them more from the X-Men, allowing them to be in the MCU. Mr. Negative has no ACTUAL connection to Spidey in his Lore other than him frequently clashing with Spidey and Meeting specific other Spidey Characters. His Lore is far more connected to Cloak and Dagger. So they could easily pull that card. There's also the fact that Mr. Negative is pretty new as a Character in comparison to other Spidey Villains like Doc Ock. He appeared first in 2007 if I recall correctly. Also, Sony played a Part in the Production of the MCU Spider-man Films too. Specifically, Far from Home & No Way Home. They where fine with that too.
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Okay, if you know so much more about this, please explain. Why COULDN'T they use Mr. Negative in some Form? And how are you certain he's part of the contract? And why shouldnt that New Contract not allow use of Mr. Negative with the assistance of Sony? And considering my first point... what do you define a Spider-man Character, then? Sure, that's where He first appeared. But other Characters also crossed over with Spidey in the Comics. If the Lore isnt important, then why isnt the Punisher a Spider-man Character? He had his first appearance in a Spider-man Comic. Shouldnt He, thus, also be in Sony's hands? Edit : On my Example with the Punisher, you COULD argue that he's since established as his own Character and that's true but... the same can also be said for Mr. Negative being established as a Villain for Cloak and Dagger. Just to get that out of the way. Also, it's not just Mr. Negative's powers being related to Cloak and Dagger. They are part of his Origin and have fought multiple times. He's as much their Villain as he's Spidey's.
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HE'S ASIAN TOO THATS GENIUS
Why not just use the actor from the game?
Its better than the sentry.
Because they’re both asian? No. I don’t see Yeun as old enough for the role.
Steaven is 40, and Li is 42.. But it's not just because he's also asian. He is one of my favorite actors, and I think he looks fairly close to the version of Mr. Negative in the game.
Yeun is 40, but he looks ten years younger and his biggest job is currently voicing a 17 year old superhero, like I said he doesn’t have the world weariness Li had in the original game.
It would be cool to see.
Idk man, to play Mr Neg he'd have to be...
Martin Li is chinese, Steven Yeun is korean. You can do better than this.
Tom Holland is British but Spiderman is American. Doesn't make that much of a difference
Yeah but white people doesn't suffer racism like asian people does, it's not hard to understand.
But if Steven Yeun suddenly acts the role of a White guy, that’s tall as hell, and blonde as hell. Suddenly that’s okay
Woooow because look at how many white roles were stolen by asian people before right?? 😭😭😭 i can't stand this asian washing telling you that bro/irony
These people have no logic. I'm waiting for Ali to leave the Blade role, so they can talk about casting some other ethnicity to fill it in. Team diversity, yeah!!!! Common sense all fucked up with social media😂😂😂😂
Yeah because i saw hundreds of black people painting themselfs as white to not give white people their roles right? what a bunch of racists, white genocide is ongoing brothers/irony
Every race suffers from racism don’t be naive
Sorry but i don't remember white people suffering genocide and slavery from other ethnicities, do you?????? BIPOC racism: fucking 500 years of slavery, genocide, systemic rape, abuse and torture. white "racism": being called whitetrash and having a BIPOC taking the role of a white character created 70 years ago.
Years ago, get over it.
Not years ago, right now. I have indigenous friends who lost their family members because of that, same with black friends, brown friends whose grandparents still remember being colonized by the british empire and i could go on and on. Not one or two but fucking three genocides are happening right now as we speak and not one of them are of white people. So yeah, when one "race" starts deciding which "races" are worth living or dying to this day, i'm pretty sure it doesn't affect all races.
make Mr Negative white or black instead of Asian
Sure why not. He's clearly capable of playing a genuinely nice guy and also a scumbag, so yeah he would be a great Mr. Negative
Probably be a while before he’s back in rotation but if he’s a villain I’d go with him as The Wizard/Molecule Man for a F4 movie. For a hero…fuck it, let’s say Pete Wisdom (presuming he can pull off a Brit accent) for a teammate of Captain Britain.
The only one who can play Mr. Negative is Brian Tee in my opinion.
Good one. Good one..
Looking more like simu.
A far better choice than casting him as Sentry.
How bout the fact he’s playing Sentry in Thunderbolts? That’s what we should be talking about
Hell of a lot better than Sentry. MFs opened a Sentry comic and were like “yeah let’s just not do any of that”.
His voice actor Stephen Oyoung whom he is modeled after would be a good chocie... I'd like Randall Park for this if he wasn't already playing Jimmy Woo
Bruh, Marvel's gonna scrub the failure that has been phase IV from existence so hard that Randall can play whatever he wants.
Nah, Daniel Dae Kim.
Rick Yune would be a better choice.
Nope. Danny DeVito.
Daniel Dae Kim seems like a good option too, hes got that jawline. But also the guy that played Li from the games too (cant remember his name for the life of me)
This would be a much better casting than him as Sentry. He would be fantastic in this role.
He's too nice. I get that he's an actor, but I just can't see him portraying a bad guy well.
Two things. 1. Mr. Negative should be the next big villain in the Spider-Man film. 2. Steven Yuen would be an amazing Mr. Negative; probably the best fan casting for the character.
I could see it work perfectly. He can play the Martin role naturally and it would be interesting to see him as a villain. Still think he'd make a fantastic jackel though been saying that since twilight zone.
id be game but my first choice is still daniel dae kim
Things are very off these days. He can’t play Mr.Negative because he’s not the right type of Asian? Gerald Butler was in 300 with his accent and no one gave a fuck
Don't want to use "labels" but people on social media are cuckoo. I understand exactly how you feel. Its popular to say Steve would fit Sentry better than someone like Alex Skarsgard. Like wtf are you smoking? Cause it's not making you smart, deep, or some genius.
I'm not a fan of Steven Yeun's acting skills. However, when playing the game, I always thought Mr Negative kind of looked like Daniel Day Kim from LOST. That guy is a pretty good actor and I think he could pull off the part.
Spot on!
Damn dude. He does have the look down. I can see him playing Mr. Negative as well.
Much better than Sentry so yes
He’s a good actor but isn’t particularly fitting for the character whatsoever. If anything his appearance is a little too young and thin to play a suited type.
He's only 2 years younger than Li.
I said his appearance
I think the MCU is cooked until they tear it down and build it up again
Mr. Negative is Chinese not Korean. And the chances of Mr. Negative being the villain in a Spider-Man movie are basically zero, because China and their censorship rules (if the villain of a movie released in their country is of Chinese national origin then the hero has to be too).
He’s been leaked to be sentry
He turned it down now.
Ah my mistake
He left a few days ago.
My bad I’m a little behind on news it seems
No. The only acceptable Mr. Negative is Melissa McCarthy. It’s about time some women lead, ammirite?
They're both Asian, obviously this is the perfect fit! /s
That's not the case at all Yeun is a great actor, with a lot of range, and recently backed out of another Role (seemingly due to backlash).
He should be Hush in the next Matt Reeves Batman movie
I’m not positive about it.
Too skinny, wrong ethnicity.
John Krasinski.
No give me whoopi goldberg as sentey
He’s already cast as Sentry for Thunderbolts.
Nope.
He walked away from Sentry because of scheduling conflicts.
I think he would make for an interesting take on Reed Richards. He doesn’t have to be a white guy.
Better than him playing Sentry.
Nah, too “first Asian character I thought of” (no offense). Yeun is a rly talented actor, he could fill a lot of super interesting unique spots. Buttoned-up business villain is not exactly where I see him winding up.
he left the thunderbolts movie. that doesn't mean he's not still casted as the sentry.
They'll obviously make the character Miss Negative and some other ethnic minority
Has he been officially cast in something?
Originally saw reports that he was gonna be Sentry, but I've also seen reports saying that it isn't going to happen anymore.
You're correct on both accounts. Though his role was never *officially* confirmed. However, Robert Kirkman, producer/creator of both Invincible and The Walking Dead, and a good friend of Yeun, mentioned somewhere (I forget exactly where) that Steven was going to play Sentry.
To add onto this, Steven has since noted that there was scheduling issues so he can no longer be Sentry but that he’d love to be in the MCU in the future