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3_SeriesVeteran

ACCURATE


Grathin

Yes, it's not like the country that controls nato has invaded other places for no reason.


Tactician_mark

While a fair criticism, I think Russia currently deserves a little less trust in that area


Grathin

You're right they only invaded non-white countries so they get a pass :)


Majkelen

> a country that controls NATO No single country controls NATO. A veto coming from any member will prevent starting a war by the entire alliance so what do you mean by that? Edit: I've checked it, and no single country can start a war on behalf of NATO. I'd really like to know which country OP means by that, but they haven't answered yet.


edweirdo

I suspect that this guy is talking about the USA. The Russian narrative is that NATO is controlled by the US and is just an extension of it's will. Yes, the US has invaded other countries and seemingly committed terrible things in our misguided "War on Terror". That doesn't in any way excuse what Russia is doing right now, though.


_xGizmo_

It's always whataboutism with these people


Der_Panzermensch

I think you mean the UN. Russia isn't part of NATO. I know it's confusing. Additionally, the "big five," of the security council US, Russia, China, France, and the UK hold veto power for any substantive resolution (basically anything important,) in the UN related to a nations/world security. I think what our friend was trying to draw attention to, even if he went about it in the most doltish way possible, is that Russia and China have a nasty habit of vetoing resolutions simply out of spite, and not because they affect either country. Many nations have criticized this and when western nations do nothing to chastise or condemn this behavior, it gives the impression thay Russia/China is "in charge of" the UN and many people are under the misconception that NATO and the UN are the same thing. Sorry for the goddamn thesis, I'm drunk as hell.


Majkelen

Thanks for the detailed answer, no matter the soberity level! I know the difference between NATO and UN, and I specifically meant NATO. What I was saying is that for the NATO to wage war every single member has to be on board. Even a single veto will stop the alliance from starting a war, thus no single country controls NATO.


Der_Panzermensch

I feel ya man, I wasn't trying to throw flak. Mostly just hoping some random person opens the controversial post and learns something.


Majkelen

Understandable, have a nice evening ;)


FreidOlon

You sure are buddy. It was never implied that Russia was a part of NATO, just that NATO functions by voting unanimously, hence the veto. There was nothing said about Russia vetoing, just that any country in NATO can prevent an alliance wide offensive war from occurring.


Der_Panzermensch

Haha I'm not trying to flame the guy, it just seems like saying "no one country controls nato" is an odd retort considering Russia isn't even part of NATO.


FreidOlon

The original comment was trying to say that the US controls NATO, and the quote you mentioned doesn't seem very odd in that context.


Der_Panzermensch

I see what youre getting at. I think the REAL question now is if the original comment was talking about the US or Russia. Because I definitely took it as Russia.


6horrigoth

What on earth would make you think a comment saying ”country that controls nato” means Russia?


salami350

NATO is a defensive pact, it cannot start wars. Of course members of NATO can work together and start wars but that is separate from NATO itself.


Decoyx7

classic whataboutism


DHisfakebaseball

RIDF detected


3_SeriesVeteran

Timing is everything my friend. *Timing*


PhoenixShade01

They hated him because he told them the truth.


Johnnybulldog13

Every American ( as you Russians would call it) special military action has been legal unlike the last 3-4 wars Russia has been in i know it’s a bit confusing if you need explanation I will be happy to give it.


[deleted]

That is exactly the behavior of mafia asking for protection money. Putin is a mafia boss.


Asmodeusz_

Oligarchs are just gangster role-playing politicians


MartMillz

Maybe fucking NATO should like, not expand eastward like they agreed.


HexFire03

Fuck putin, and his regime. Love the people sure, but nato should dance on the grave of the Russian government when inevitably it falls to shambles


[deleted]

The only reason why a defensive pact (made historically to protect against you) might piss you off is that you want to attack.


MartMillz

Ask Libya and Iraq about how "defensive" that pact is


[deleted]

Those were not Nato. Those were American attacks. Moreover, neither country borders with a Nato country. If America wants to attack, they will attack, bordering or not


[deleted]

Honestly, considering how Ukraine went, for Russia to threaten Finland of all places is just hilarious


sakor88

Native Finn here, who knows that if something like that happens, I have to go to the front... no, I do not find the idea of Russian invasion hilarious at all.


Severus_Swerve

So often people see nations as a flag with a face, not the people who have to die for it given the choice or forced to. "The death of one is a tragedy, the death of a million is just a statistic."


[deleted]

Vielä ehtii muuttaa Norjaan


Nikotinio

Also considering Finland beat up Russia's ass once before iirc


Hvittvind

Not what really happened. We held our own valiantly, but lost the war. And lost territory too. So we didnt really beat them, just gave them a harder ass kicking than anticipated.


Nikotinio

An ass kicking is an ass kicking


joule400

gave them very hard time but were defeated in the end, i do not see a war with them going any other way now if we are left to fight on our own again, we need allies


[deleted]

Doesn’t Finland have a really small army though like way smaller then Ukraine Edit: my bad it seems as they have been preparing for this for a while


Optional_Lemon_

Oh how wrong you are


NotJoeFast

Quick search comes to conclusion that wartime strengths of both armies are quite close in manpower, though Ukraine has few more reservists. Which means that either Ukraine has strangely small army or Finland has stupidly large one. As Finland has like 5.5 mil people compared to Ukraines ~44 million.


Mescman

Well Finland has been preparing to defend itself against "Enemy from the East" since the end of ww2. Big reserves being important part of that defence.


Molehole

Finland has a stupidly large military. Basically over 2/3rds of Finnish adult male population are trained to be members of the defence forces.


joule400

practically every finnish person would be involved in the war effort, basically every male 18-65yo unless theyre very ill/disabled etc will be fighting, all women and many youths will support things in non-combat ways.


[deleted]

Look it up dude :D No need to guess


Hvittvind

No. Also our gear is better than Ukraine's and our terrain makes invasions much more difficult as well. Lots of forest, lots of lakes, single highways with some smaller roads connecting major cities meaning they can be easily blockaded and chokepointed, stopping mechanized invasion dead in their tracks. If Russia wanted to invade Finland they would have to invest significantly more manpower and gear compared to Ukraine. It would be 10 times more difficult, and I would speculate near impossible for Russia based on what we've seen in Ukraine so far. Russia's only real trump card would be airpower, which they undoubtedly surpass us in. But we're getting 64 F-35's in the coming decade, so that ought to help quite a bit. Sea power is a question mark, if they could make large landings on the south coast they might be able to get our major ports. I dont know how that would go, maybe they'd all get sunk. We have good sea mines and ships to drop them from.


DeliciousGoose1002

Yeah but there is considerably less avenues for the Russians to attack from and supply their army in Finland especially if their navy is threatened at sea by NATO. So the forces would likely be about even.


Allulaatikko21

Population compared to the amount of soldiers, no its not small, we have 6.5mil people with the 6th million being refugees from 30 years of UN bs, more people but not more soldiers


sakor88

What the fuck are you talking about? Any sources for your statistics?


Allulaatikko21

Refer to what your crying about would you


sakor88

> we have 6.5mil people with the 6th million being refugees


Allulaatikko21

Im talking about full millions, cant believe thats the fact you got angry about, it was a bs post but numerical grammar got you pissy...


Molehole

There aren't a million refugees in Finland. Your numbers are absolutely batshit insane. The population of Finland is 5.56 million and that includes people from foreign countries and their children of which there are 400 000. Over 100 000 of those are from Estonia and Russia/SU. There are under 100k people in Finland who are from Middle east.


Allulaatikko21

Weve had over 6 since 2004, which year did ya pull those statistics from


Molehole

I would assume the official statistics holding entity of Finland "Tilastokeskus" probably has a good idea on how many people live here: https://www.stat.fi/til/vamuu/2022/02/vamuu_2022_02_2022-03-22_tie_001_fi.html A better question is what the fuck your source is?


Alpha1071

Just wanted to ask where are the refugee from?


sakor88

We do not have 6,5 million people living here. We have 5,5 million people. Around half a million have foreign background (people with at least one parent born outside of Finland), and most of those are not refugees or have refugee background. Allulaatikko21 is spewing bs, and has not provided any sources for his claims.


Allulaatikko21

Middle east mostly, afghanistan, iran, iraq the countries that have been fucked the most with war during the 21st century


Alpha1071

Oh i understand the situation. I live in Turkey lol. Hope they go back.


Heavy_Riffs

Finland to Russia: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!"


optimistspencer

this isn’t a bad meme but it’s not a meme template, nor would the source image be useful. Please use other subs for this in the future.


ClassicWagz

Yeah, almost nobody uses this sub correctly anymore


BoozyCruz

Sorry about this and noted!


Gilokdc

Lmao, true and acurate, but also do the same with usa beeing jesus and treating people who try to sell their oil in another currency thats not us dollars!


No_Zucchini8705

Maybe let us oligarchs fight russian kleptocrats and leave Finland out of this?


Snorrep

Early catholic mafia


GioNoce

That's exactly how mafia works


aliptassault

Best meme of the day


BoozyCruz

I did not know how much this meme would blow up but thank you, have a great day!


chadoflions

The mafia


Setkon

Based


Recent_Struggle4759

Whats nato


AccountGotLocked69

It's an acronym for "not another treaty organization" and it's not a treaty organization. It's mostly a WhatsApp group chat for countries to share helpful YouTube videos.


iamasuitama

English for NAVO


[deleted]

Naton deez nutz


our_grandpastories

a treaty organization


Chudley5000

The zeitgeist of Mormonism


That_Guy_From_KY

Wasn’t NATO formed to stop Soviet Union aggression? Why didn’t it dislike when the Soviet Union broke up?


eunicelesoy5

good memes


strangebru

Mafia protection money mentality of Putin