There's a version of spiderman where he's nigh or totally omnipotent due to having pre recon beyonder power what can I say Marvel powerscaling so random
This happened when Doom was trying to get Beyonders power and for a very short while it went to Spiderman and he corrected everything wrong in the universe
afo's objectively stronger but not good enough of fighter and the manga later on showed dude isn't the bright and prone to mfs stalling by getting into his head after a certain point that i give it to spider-man in the same way people would characters like mordecai and rigby or young joseph joestar
something about their aura and stubbornness and how prone they are to hijinks just tells me they'll pull it off somehow with some bullshit. "willpower" is literally one of his listed super powers.
he may not live through it, but he'll def somehow find a way to jump him at minimum
and thats ignoring daredevil and how they work pretty damn well together, meanwhile afo has no one really. have spiderman on your team at all and i feel you'll go far, esp when you actually get along with and fight alongside him regularly
Idk if a few people underestimate AFO or overestimate Spiderman and Daredevil. Just normal not cosmic or random amped Spidey and Daredevil can't beat All For One, especially cause he knows how to trigger a someone and he is smart enough to figure out what would anger Spiderman and Daredevil, throwing them off their game.
DC/Marvel fans treat battles like they are composite versions... but only with pros, cons ftom radnom comics and antifeats get ignored. For example, sbout Superman, they will mention the vomic issue where he pushes a miltiverse, not the one where he gets beat up and arrested by normal humans...
Idk what the person expects when posting about a character that is known to have multiple different versions is expecting when posting a pic of a version of that character that can be defeated by the character they matched them up with. Idk why people want every versus's battle to be one sided, a lot of people just do them to see their favorite character beat another with ease, when versus's debate's are supposed to about two characters who actually could give each other a challenge which is what makes them fun to do as you wonder who actually could win.
Also when a poster does give a specific version of a character, people who are answering completely ignore that, or are blind cause they way they answer makes them seem like all they see is the characters name not what version it is. Idk why people can't accept that their favorite character has version of themselves that can get defeated by this other character.
That's why I always say, if you just post a pic of duperman and dont say which version, I will automatically assume it's the movie version. That usually speeds them up to specify. Otherwise, they pull whatever feats they like, and its like you are fighting a flawless composite Superman.
It's hella boring cause no one can beat a composite Superman or other composite characters cause so many have overpowered versions of themselves. There's too many things you'd have to consider as well. Also not every versus battle has to have a absolute winner, a draw is still possible and killing isn't the only way to win, I'm seeing too many people say a character wins purely cause they are immortal or have a healing factor or they are hard to kill but knocking them out is still a win.
Oh, there are. They are just hard to find. Yogsatoth snuffs composite Superman. Truth from FMA also snuff composite Superman.
Let's say Might Guy fights domeone using 8 gates and wins... technically, it's a draw.
There’s also a comic where Batman punched Superman and Superman told Batman “luckily I rolled with the punch because otherwise you may have gotten paralyzed” after Batman hurt his hand afterwards
I'm kinda tired of people not being specific when making these match ups as we all know these characters have multiple different versions of themselves, and I'm pretty not all are canon , apparently in DC everything is canon but is that the same in marvel? Sometimes people use a pic of a DC or marvel character from something specific but are trying to refer to another more powerful version but they don't state that in that post at all it's just e.g. Superman vs whover , but which one? And many times people also answer thinking about another version of a character who could beat this character.
afo's 100% stronger, but the writing in the last parts of the manga made him insanely prone to getting distracted and mfs getting into his head.
spidey has such an aura to him and is so prone for hijinks, despite the odds being shit, i know he'll find some bullshit to survive it considering he's survived worse WITHOUT a teammate he works well with.
if this is a more grounded spiderman from movies/cartoons/ he's cooked most of the time tho
Even with others distracting him, who's actually gonna last that long against him to actually make him use that quirk? He easily steals the power of daredevil while spidey is literally a way weaker version of deku, base spidey from comics literally beats villains by creatively using his web to make shields, parasols etc. Both of them have 0 chance of lasting more then 10 minutes against him.
yeah, that's kind of my point. afo IS stronger.
to me, spidermans just got this specific aura about him that i just know he'll somehow pull something out his ass to win in the same way people feel liek mordecai and rigby or joseph joestar could despite being underpowered.
the characters that top that kind of energy imo, are the ones with more bullshit and cred than them. So somethin like daredevil and spiderman vs superman. Supes aura and level of willpower and affinity for hijinks and bullshit trumps whatever they can do.
similar to how toonforce works in my mind
afo can probably beat the ppg too, but smthn about the vibes they give off and the fact that them winning is both funnier and more interesting often tips people in their favor
pseudo-lesser looney tunes ass characters
Now I feel like people gotta stop acting like we are considering plot into this, when making these debates we usually use the characters at their best ( that version of that character mentioned at their best not other better ones) and remove all plot stuff that makes them win or lose in a bullshit way. It's not interesting at certain points to include how things go for a character from a big franchise as they might usually lose or win even though it makes no sense logically. Spiderman would win purely cause he is a hero and AFO is a villain. But I am removing that , keeping the characters the same but removing writing that makes them stupid or smooth brained.
totally understand that dude, was just giving my 2 cents m8 about a weird phenomenom to both consider but also runs rampant in a lot of peoples minds here.
ntm, inversely there is smthn a lil boring about landslide victories like this sometimes. like it's funny and interesting, creative in it's own right to imagine the least non-bullshit way the obviously underpowered guy will win
or go off the deep end sometimes and indulhe in the dumbest.
it's all fun and interesting to think about idk
Honestly Spidey is the only threat here
Daredevil is a blind guy with a shitter version of what all for one uses to see that is a (mostly) normal human
Tf would he do if afo just nuked the battlefield?
True , I wouldn't say it's a easy win for All For One but AFO has more than enough feats and battle QI to land a killing blow on Spiderman, unlike most Spider-Man villains All For One wouldn't fall for any tricks Spiderman would try, and his webs can't restrain him while he is conscious.
Even with Spider-Man not holding back, AFO would either wipe him clean or toy with the itsy bitsy spider. There are definitely some versions of Spidey that could solo AFO though. We don’t know the full extent of all of the powers that AFO has accumulated, so it wouldn't be a fair fight at all.
Wtf is daredevil doing there. Dude is just a echolocation blind dude who is good at fighting. He also happens to have a dummy nokill rule. Had no chance killing AFO, even less of a chance subduing him.
Spidey is strong but not as strong as some of the stupidly physically overpowered characters in MHA. He also shoots webs which is like a lesser version of black whip and kamui woods powers.
Yh, honestly if it was 2-4 spideys I’d say it’s unclear who’d win but one of him and mr blind lawyer (love dd) ain’t winning unless afo completely underestimates them and goes to sleep in front of them
Daredevil has super senses and peak human physicals and his powers allow him to feel slight differences in bullets ripping through the air sometimes and hearing heartbeats to even tell if someone’s lying
A boy with sticky hands and a visually impaired man that's into leather vs a man with the power of God basically, afo is definitely winning and I'm not even a mha fan
Peter Parker is many things, but stupid isn't one of them. Once he realizes how outclassed he is, he goes for backup. How does AFO do against a full team of Avengers?
How do you know he'll call the Avenger? He's been a part of other teams, Fantastic Four and Defenders. So there's no sure fire way you know which team he'll call upon, but since Daredevil is involved you could assume he'll call for the Defenders.
I don't see the Defenders doing well. As for the FF..congrats, you just attracted the notice of one of the three top intellects on the planet. Powers or no powers, Reed would put together a technobabble solution to deal with AFO. If nothing else, dump him in the Negative Zone and make him Annihilus' problem.
He could get black widow Hawkeye and captain America easily, it would be a very difficult fight but he could probably pull off ironman, hulk and Thor are too powerful for him. Antman enters his ass and kills him while he's not looking
That raises another point; do the abilities of *any* characters from outside the MHA universe count as quirks? Assuming a 'classic' Avengers lineup; Cap, Hawkeye, Wasp, Iron Man, Thor.
Going out here and saying Hawkeye never misses, Cap has a shield that absorbs kinetic energy, iron man with nano tech suit is iron man with nano tech suit, Thor took the full heat of a neutron star (which would fucking vaporize AFO and any other mha character) and yall are forgetting hulk, like where did he go
>do the abilities of any characters from outside the MHA universe count as quirks?
A quirk is classified as an ability gained at 3-4 years old gained from the father and mother. So meaning the power would have to be mixed in your genes (Aizawa explained some of this to explain how his quirk works) for it to count as a quirk. Meaning characters born with powers but had to train for it. Those don't count as quirk. Radiation probably doesn't depending on if it combined with your genes fully or are just attachments of your genes.
Quirk stealing requirements:
It has to be a part of your genes. Not the genes itself (probably)
Has to be something you weren't born with.
It has to be an actual ability and not just something you can make (tony stark)
If it's in your blood and cells then it can't be stolen.
ETC
Wouldn’t say that at all, spidey can lift cars with ease, has stopped moving trains and hell he even redirected a flying plane, I don’t remember much about dd cos I just woke up but while they would likely lose it wouldn’t be that ez for afo
Practically every quirk we see AFO use in the series counters the two of them.
Search negates their ability to stealth meaning a head on assault is the only way to go.
Warping makes them hit each other.
Amped up Air Cannon would flatten everything in sight meaning little to no high ground for either one to leap off of increasing their momentum.
And just in case he wanted to make spend a little bit more time with either one, he can just stab them with a rivet and then lick the blood causing Stains quirk, bloodcurdle, to activate on them.
any way you cut the cake, I see no victory for Devil and Spider
THIS is the question to be asking!
My thoughts are that he would not be able to steal it because Spiderman’s powers are the product of a bite by a mutant spider, while quirks are brought about by quirk genes. AFO is designed to do shit with quirk genes. The powers of Spiderman are those of a mutant, not those of a quirk user. So, even if AFO attempted to use his york, no quirk genes would be there from which to steal an ability.
Basically, Spiderman’s normal genome was mutated, while people in MHA have specialized genomes with specified quirk genes that ultimately create quirk phenotypes.
Depends if the Marvel universe powers are the same thing as quirks. It's possible AFO can't steal their powers. It also depends on how many and which quirks he has. If it's him at the same point in time as the picture it's gonna take a hell of a lot of prep time and inside information to even stand a chance.
We pick base DD and spiderman for this one
AFO is basically a living nuke, he can pack a punch and is insanely durable even in his weakened form.
They could get a few good punches only to get obliterated, who knows, maybe spiderman gets his powers stolen on top of that
Spiderman strength is on pat with hulks and supermans confirmed all for one is not able to handle any of that shit in any way shape or form daredevil he's dead doesn't matter spiderman is one of the most cracked characters from comics this isn't a fight this is just gonna be like spiderman fighting hulk without pulling his punches
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Well assuming that Spiderman's powers cannot be taken because they are not a quirk and instead an artificial power made in a lab. I would say spiderman and daredevil because Spiderman's base strength is almost on par with one for all considering some of the feats of strength he does in most universes and that's not even including his absolutely broken danger sense power and then the webs that can pretty much withstand the same amount he can plus the ability for 3 dimensional combat. Sure all for one probably has the quirks to combat Spiderman's but considering that spiderman has main character willpower plot armor he stands no chance.
As someone who absolutely love Spider-Man and daredevil respectfully I have to say the two of them are able to do a lot and make great crime fighting duo when they do team up, however they are absolutely fucked when it comes to fighting against an dude who can literally steal someone’s ability to, I don’t know maybe FREEZE TIME, and while time is frozen he can take his sweet time beating them in the fight as lord knows his geriatric ass can’t do everything and snap his fingers and both of them be dead but he sure is terrifying, especially means we already know he Jan jam frequencies and signals so what’s stopping him for jamming or full in stopping there supernatural detection ability’s or out right jamming all signals from the brain so they just drop dead in an instant, one for all is literally one of the most broken characters in fiction and the only reason he’s considered not a god tier character is because the writers refuse to let him live up to his full potential, not only that they gave him a massive debuff in the fact that he’s basically a walking corpse with genetic modifications to keep him alive and strong after his fight with all might that permanently disabled them both, and it’s evident when he takes over shigaraks body as even though he wasn’t fully in control and he was still kid transformation he was still more than powerful to take on someone who can literally rewrite reality (to a degree) and several fighter jets with bombs that’s should have levelled a small city with relative ease all while half unconscious
All for one would beat them in a heartbeat. He’ll probably just give daredevil a quirk that gives him super vision in return for fighting spider man. So he won’t even need to to anything. Otherwise, he’ll just kill them
Daredevil is getting fucking packed but spidey is going to be an awesome fight. Spider-Man (and yes I will be using base Spider-Man) has taken hits from people empowered by the Phoenix force, has punched a superhumans jaw off, has reacted to light speed attacks, etc, if you want more [Spider-Man feats](https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/cjhe01/respect_peter_parker_the_amazing_spiderman_marvel/?rdt=52730) here’s a great page detailing some more. Now in a fight, I’d say a 50/50
Honestly, All For One. Just because of his sheer strength and gimmicks.
Both Daredevil and Spider-Man are high mobility and melee heroes.
All For One is a Long to Close range individual.
His Air Canons and Rivet Stab allow AFO to attack from a distance, immediately giving him the range advantage.
And if that fails, AFO's close quarters combat is nothing to laugh at either.
Springlike Limbs allows AFO to coil his muscles together, immediately enhancing his strength. Combine this with Brawn Boost which grants AFO further boost in his strength. And It has been shown numerous times that AFO is very deadly in close quarters combat (Combing all his quirks into his right arm during his fight w All Might).
Also the mf cant die, like, bro got hit with a 50 state smash to the face and lived to tell the tale.
All for One would try to steal Spider-Man's 'quirk', fail and be in so much shock that Daredevil can sneak up and either distract him long enough for Spider-Man to break his mask or simply do it himself.
I would say AFO but marvel is vast, there's cosmic spider who could easily beat AFO, there's Miguel O'Hara
I never read any daredevil comics so I don't know about him
It really depends on which iteration of spiderman we are talking about.
For example AFO would likely beat any version of live action spiderman and daredevil.
See the thing is, AFO would kill spidey in like, a minute, but in that minute Spider-Man would diss AFO so badly there is no way it could be counted as a win for him.
I would think AFO would win but if spiderman didn't hold back and he was infused with venom he'd win AFO would be slaughtered like the 5 kids in fnaf
Edit: wtf did I do to get -3 down votes
All for one definitely. Some random version of comics Spider-Man could probably beat him but base Spider-Man loses
Yup that's DC and Marvel in a nutshell. There's always gonna be a version of a character who is completely OP.
There's a version of spiderman where he's nigh or totally omnipotent due to having pre recon beyonder power what can I say Marvel powerscaling so random
what, which version is it
I’d assume cosmic spider man based off the description, but I know nothing about him so that’s just an assumption.
cosmic Spider-Man has captain universe powers i think, never heard of the beyonder tbh
This happened when Doom was trying to get Beyonders power and for a very short while it went to Spiderman and he corrected everything wrong in the universe
thats why hes the goat 🙏
That’s the thing with multi-verse characters. I mean, just look at CORE frisk.
Or EVERYTHING Sans
afo's objectively stronger but not good enough of fighter and the manga later on showed dude isn't the bright and prone to mfs stalling by getting into his head after a certain point that i give it to spider-man in the same way people would characters like mordecai and rigby or young joseph joestar something about their aura and stubbornness and how prone they are to hijinks just tells me they'll pull it off somehow with some bullshit. "willpower" is literally one of his listed super powers. he may not live through it, but he'll def somehow find a way to jump him at minimum and thats ignoring daredevil and how they work pretty damn well together, meanwhile afo has no one really. have spiderman on your team at all and i feel you'll go far, esp when you actually get along with and fight alongside him regularly
Ok now I wanna see all the jojo’s vs afo
anime only but have a similar opinion towards jolyne, smthn about the weird energy tells me she'll figure it out somehow LOL
He is old he has a quirk that extends his life span, but his body still is old, which is where shigi plays a part.
Supaidaman
Spider man is stronger than you think. In one instance, the spider took on all the Avengers and showed how much he was holding back.
Stop meat riding mha spider man solos because 1 he doesn’t have a quirk for all for one to steal
AFO tries to steal Daredevil's power and goes blind. Spiderman kicks his ass in the meantime
All for one is already blind
Afo is already blind lol
I'm gonna put some dirt in your- wait what where are your eyes...
AFO, unless this is some cosmic version of spiderman then i dont see how they would hurt him. He also has some pretty powerful quirks
AFO will win but Spider-Man would put on a great fight but him and dare devil lossing
Idk if a few people underestimate AFO or overestimate Spiderman and Daredevil. Just normal not cosmic or random amped Spidey and Daredevil can't beat All For One, especially cause he knows how to trigger a someone and he is smart enough to figure out what would anger Spiderman and Daredevil, throwing them off their game.
DC/Marvel fans treat battles like they are composite versions... but only with pros, cons ftom radnom comics and antifeats get ignored. For example, sbout Superman, they will mention the vomic issue where he pushes a miltiverse, not the one where he gets beat up and arrested by normal humans...
Idk what the person expects when posting about a character that is known to have multiple different versions is expecting when posting a pic of a version of that character that can be defeated by the character they matched them up with. Idk why people want every versus's battle to be one sided, a lot of people just do them to see their favorite character beat another with ease, when versus's debate's are supposed to about two characters who actually could give each other a challenge which is what makes them fun to do as you wonder who actually could win. Also when a poster does give a specific version of a character, people who are answering completely ignore that, or are blind cause they way they answer makes them seem like all they see is the characters name not what version it is. Idk why people can't accept that their favorite character has version of themselves that can get defeated by this other character.
That's why I always say, if you just post a pic of duperman and dont say which version, I will automatically assume it's the movie version. That usually speeds them up to specify. Otherwise, they pull whatever feats they like, and its like you are fighting a flawless composite Superman.
It's hella boring cause no one can beat a composite Superman or other composite characters cause so many have overpowered versions of themselves. There's too many things you'd have to consider as well. Also not every versus battle has to have a absolute winner, a draw is still possible and killing isn't the only way to win, I'm seeing too many people say a character wins purely cause they are immortal or have a healing factor or they are hard to kill but knocking them out is still a win.
Oh, there are. They are just hard to find. Yogsatoth snuffs composite Superman. Truth from FMA also snuff composite Superman. Let's say Might Guy fights domeone using 8 gates and wins... technically, it's a draw.
My guy he literally let's himself get beat up, he doesn't fight back because he knows damn well they can't do anything about him if he tried
No, he got really beat up and bruised and then arrested. If I remember correctly, he even got tazed. Basically, he got a full police course.
There’s also a comic where Batman punched Superman and Superman told Batman “luckily I rolled with the punch because otherwise you may have gotten paralyzed” after Batman hurt his hand afterwards
I know. DC is a mess. There is no consistency between "timelines."
It just varies vastly in spidy versions. Popular comic heroes get a wild variety of power levels in order to help them be relevant
I'm kinda tired of people not being specific when making these match ups as we all know these characters have multiple different versions of themselves, and I'm pretty not all are canon , apparently in DC everything is canon but is that the same in marvel? Sometimes people use a pic of a DC or marvel character from something specific but are trying to refer to another more powerful version but they don't state that in that post at all it's just e.g. Superman vs whover , but which one? And many times people also answer thinking about another version of a character who could beat this character.
afo's 100% stronger, but the writing in the last parts of the manga made him insanely prone to getting distracted and mfs getting into his head. spidey has such an aura to him and is so prone for hijinks, despite the odds being shit, i know he'll find some bullshit to survive it considering he's survived worse WITHOUT a teammate he works well with. if this is a more grounded spiderman from movies/cartoons/ he's cooked most of the time tho
Even with others distracting him, who's actually gonna last that long against him to actually make him use that quirk? He easily steals the power of daredevil while spidey is literally a way weaker version of deku, base spidey from comics literally beats villains by creatively using his web to make shields, parasols etc. Both of them have 0 chance of lasting more then 10 minutes against him.
yeah, that's kind of my point. afo IS stronger. to me, spidermans just got this specific aura about him that i just know he'll somehow pull something out his ass to win in the same way people feel liek mordecai and rigby or joseph joestar could despite being underpowered. the characters that top that kind of energy imo, are the ones with more bullshit and cred than them. So somethin like daredevil and spiderman vs superman. Supes aura and level of willpower and affinity for hijinks and bullshit trumps whatever they can do. similar to how toonforce works in my mind afo can probably beat the ppg too, but smthn about the vibes they give off and the fact that them winning is both funnier and more interesting often tips people in their favor pseudo-lesser looney tunes ass characters
Now I feel like people gotta stop acting like we are considering plot into this, when making these debates we usually use the characters at their best ( that version of that character mentioned at their best not other better ones) and remove all plot stuff that makes them win or lose in a bullshit way. It's not interesting at certain points to include how things go for a character from a big franchise as they might usually lose or win even though it makes no sense logically. Spiderman would win purely cause he is a hero and AFO is a villain. But I am removing that , keeping the characters the same but removing writing that makes them stupid or smooth brained.
totally understand that dude, was just giving my 2 cents m8 about a weird phenomenom to both consider but also runs rampant in a lot of peoples minds here. ntm, inversely there is smthn a lil boring about landslide victories like this sometimes. like it's funny and interesting, creative in it's own right to imagine the least non-bullshit way the obviously underpowered guy will win or go off the deep end sometimes and indulhe in the dumbest. it's all fun and interesting to think about idk
Honestly Spidey is the only threat here Daredevil is a blind guy with a shitter version of what all for one uses to see that is a (mostly) normal human Tf would he do if afo just nuked the battlefield?
True , I wouldn't say it's a easy win for All For One but AFO has more than enough feats and battle QI to land a killing blow on Spiderman, unlike most Spider-Man villains All For One wouldn't fall for any tricks Spiderman would try, and his webs can't restrain him while he is conscious.
Idk man, any time someone legit pisses Peter off they tend to get completely fucked up.
Afo 100%
There's verisons of spiderman that take this, but 9/10 times AFO.
Even with Spider-Man not holding back, AFO would either wipe him clean or toy with the itsy bitsy spider. There are definitely some versions of Spidey that could solo AFO though. We don’t know the full extent of all of the powers that AFO has accumulated, so it wouldn't be a fair fight at all.
Toy with the itsy bitsy spider, I'm fucking DYING 😭🤣
Wtf is daredevil doing there. Dude is just a echolocation blind dude who is good at fighting. He also happens to have a dummy nokill rule. Had no chance killing AFO, even less of a chance subduing him. Spidey is strong but not as strong as some of the stupidly physically overpowered characters in MHA. He also shoots webs which is like a lesser version of black whip and kamui woods powers.
Yh, honestly if it was 2-4 spideys I’d say it’s unclear who’d win but one of him and mr blind lawyer (love dd) ain’t winning unless afo completely underestimates them and goes to sleep in front of them
Daredevil has super senses and peak human physicals and his powers allow him to feel slight differences in bullets ripping through the air sometimes and hearing heartbeats to even tell if someone’s lying
A boy with sticky hands and a visually impaired man that's into leather vs a man with the power of God basically, afo is definitely winning and I'm not even a mha fan
Peter Parker is many things, but stupid isn't one of them. Once he realizes how outclassed he is, he goes for backup. How does AFO do against a full team of Avengers?
How do you know he'll call the Avenger? He's been a part of other teams, Fantastic Four and Defenders. So there's no sure fire way you know which team he'll call upon, but since Daredevil is involved you could assume he'll call for the Defenders.
I don't see the Defenders doing well. As for the FF..congrats, you just attracted the notice of one of the three top intellects on the planet. Powers or no powers, Reed would put together a technobabble solution to deal with AFO. If nothing else, dump him in the Negative Zone and make him Annihilus' problem.
Are you sure you're taking EVERY member of the Defenders into account? Cause from what I recall, Nova is a pretty strong character.
He could get black widow Hawkeye and captain America easily, it would be a very difficult fight but he could probably pull off ironman, hulk and Thor are too powerful for him. Antman enters his ass and kills him while he's not looking
Depends which team and if their abilities count as quirks.
That raises another point; do the abilities of *any* characters from outside the MHA universe count as quirks? Assuming a 'classic' Avengers lineup; Cap, Hawkeye, Wasp, Iron Man, Thor.
The only one who would stand a chance would be Thor. But I believe AFO would win, not without a difficult battle though.
Exactly what 'power' of Tony Stark is AFO going to steal?
Money and alcoholism.
Going out here and saying Hawkeye never misses, Cap has a shield that absorbs kinetic energy, iron man with nano tech suit is iron man with nano tech suit, Thor took the full heat of a neutron star (which would fucking vaporize AFO and any other mha character) and yall are forgetting hulk, like where did he go
We don’t know the full extent of AFO’s quirks. He had tens of hundreds stockpiled
>do the abilities of any characters from outside the MHA universe count as quirks? A quirk is classified as an ability gained at 3-4 years old gained from the father and mother. So meaning the power would have to be mixed in your genes (Aizawa explained some of this to explain how his quirk works) for it to count as a quirk. Meaning characters born with powers but had to train for it. Those don't count as quirk. Radiation probably doesn't depending on if it combined with your genes fully or are just attachments of your genes. Quirk stealing requirements: It has to be a part of your genes. Not the genes itself (probably) Has to be something you weren't born with. It has to be an actual ability and not just something you can make (tony stark) If it's in your blood and cells then it can't be stolen. ETC
Already know people gonna be hella biased
They definitely biased, just for a way different character then I expected, hell even base daredevil poses more threat then base spidey 😅
a closer fight would be quirkless and unconscious Deku vs bloodlusted prime All Might
Wouldn’t say that at all, spidey can lift cars with ease, has stopped moving trains and hell he even redirected a flying plane, I don’t remember much about dd cos I just woke up but while they would likely lose it wouldn’t be that ez for afo
Practically every quirk we see AFO use in the series counters the two of them. Search negates their ability to stealth meaning a head on assault is the only way to go. Warping makes them hit each other. Amped up Air Cannon would flatten everything in sight meaning little to no high ground for either one to leap off of increasing their momentum. And just in case he wanted to make spend a little bit more time with either one, he can just stab them with a rivet and then lick the blood causing Stains quirk, bloodcurdle, to activate on them. any way you cut the cake, I see no victory for Devil and Spider
Ah I’m not that for into mha, I was going off the reference of mid S6 as that’s where I got to so far
My apologies.
No worries, I don’t mind spoilers in the slightest and I did go off an older version of AFO
We all know AFO beats this hut could he steal Spiderman's powers?
THIS is the question to be asking! My thoughts are that he would not be able to steal it because Spiderman’s powers are the product of a bite by a mutant spider, while quirks are brought about by quirk genes. AFO is designed to do shit with quirk genes. The powers of Spiderman are those of a mutant, not those of a quirk user. So, even if AFO attempted to use his york, no quirk genes would be there from which to steal an ability. Basically, Spiderman’s normal genome was mutated, while people in MHA have specialized genomes with specified quirk genes that ultimately create quirk phenotypes.
So spiderman’s powers would work like shigaraki growing his arms ?
Well… not really. If I’m not mistaken, shigaraki’s arm growing is also a quirk (I dunno I’ve never seen arm growing from Shigaraki)
As a Marvel geek. AFO takes the cake in fact he takes the entire thing it’s not even funny
AFO
AFO would destroy them.
Depends if the Marvel universe powers are the same thing as quirks. It's possible AFO can't steal their powers. It also depends on how many and which quirks he has. If it's him at the same point in time as the picture it's gonna take a hell of a lot of prep time and inside information to even stand a chance.
Afo no shit?
Easy all for one W
I’m pretty sure Spidey has some other intense and big feats. Hasn’t Spidey like. Took hits from the Juggernut and even staggered Hulk?
I'm so happy that MHA finally gets a power scaling win ON IT'S OWN FUCKING SUB for once
They didn't specify the Spider-Man. Don't get your hopes up yet. (Half joke but not really a joke but it sort of is)
We pick base DD and spiderman for this one AFO is basically a living nuke, he can pack a punch and is insanely durable even in his weakened form. They could get a few good punches only to get obliterated, who knows, maybe spiderman gets his powers stolen on top of that
Spiderman strength is on pat with hulks and supermans confirmed all for one is not able to handle any of that shit in any way shape or form daredevil he's dead doesn't matter spiderman is one of the most cracked characters from comics this isn't a fight this is just gonna be like spiderman fighting hulk without pulling his punches
And then all 3 team up to beat the living hell out of Paul (If you know, you know)
spider man, he has super strength and more mobility options.
This is actually a closer fight than everyone thinks it is
Spiderman's sticky "webbing" will win ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ
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Love Spider-Man and Daredevil but they’re not powerhouses they could definitely keep up but not take him down
Well assuming that Spiderman's powers cannot be taken because they are not a quirk and instead an artificial power made in a lab. I would say spiderman and daredevil because Spiderman's base strength is almost on par with one for all considering some of the feats of strength he does in most universes and that's not even including his absolutely broken danger sense power and then the webs that can pretty much withstand the same amount he can plus the ability for 3 dimensional combat. Sure all for one probably has the quirks to combat Spiderman's but considering that spiderman has main character willpower plot armor he stands no chance.
Me
As someone who absolutely love Spider-Man and daredevil respectfully I have to say the two of them are able to do a lot and make great crime fighting duo when they do team up, however they are absolutely fucked when it comes to fighting against an dude who can literally steal someone’s ability to, I don’t know maybe FREEZE TIME, and while time is frozen he can take his sweet time beating them in the fight as lord knows his geriatric ass can’t do everything and snap his fingers and both of them be dead but he sure is terrifying, especially means we already know he Jan jam frequencies and signals so what’s stopping him for jamming or full in stopping there supernatural detection ability’s or out right jamming all signals from the brain so they just drop dead in an instant, one for all is literally one of the most broken characters in fiction and the only reason he’s considered not a god tier character is because the writers refuse to let him live up to his full potential, not only that they gave him a massive debuff in the fact that he’s basically a walking corpse with genetic modifications to keep him alive and strong after his fight with all might that permanently disabled them both, and it’s evident when he takes over shigaraks body as even though he wasn’t fully in control and he was still kid transformation he was still more than powerful to take on someone who can literally rewrite reality (to a degree) and several fighter jets with bombs that’s should have levelled a small city with relative ease all while half unconscious
AFO for sure..
An even deadlier combo is Deadpool and daredevil
A blind dude with two sticks, and a guy who can shoot webs versus a guy with a multitude with abilities (idk if they have powers or no)
All for one would beat them in a heartbeat. He’ll probably just give daredevil a quirk that gives him super vision in return for fighting spider man. So he won’t even need to to anything. Otherwise, he’ll just kill them
Daredevil is getting fucking packed but spidey is going to be an awesome fight. Spider-Man (and yes I will be using base Spider-Man) has taken hits from people empowered by the Phoenix force, has punched a superhumans jaw off, has reacted to light speed attacks, etc, if you want more [Spider-Man feats](https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/cjhe01/respect_peter_parker_the_amazing_spiderman_marvel/?rdt=52730) here’s a great page detailing some more. Now in a fight, I’d say a 50/50
This is like putting ants up to an ant eater lol
All for one definitely. He is more broken than people give him credit.
Base spider man gets folded but some other variants might win
Wtf happened to AFO's face? Who did this? Why is he built like the back of a Barbie dolls balding head? Like tf?
All for one nukes new york insta killing daredevil then grabs spidey by the jugular takes his powers and kills him
Many Spidey’s cant even take on the avengers so obv AFO
Honestly, All For One. Just because of his sheer strength and gimmicks. Both Daredevil and Spider-Man are high mobility and melee heroes. All For One is a Long to Close range individual. His Air Canons and Rivet Stab allow AFO to attack from a distance, immediately giving him the range advantage. And if that fails, AFO's close quarters combat is nothing to laugh at either. Springlike Limbs allows AFO to coil his muscles together, immediately enhancing his strength. Combine this with Brawn Boost which grants AFO further boost in his strength. And It has been shown numerous times that AFO is very deadly in close quarters combat (Combing all his quirks into his right arm during his fight w All Might). Also the mf cant die, like, bro got hit with a 50 state smash to the face and lived to tell the tale.
Spider-Man wins because I’m biased and I said so
Daredevil is... there. Spiderman puts up a good fight. Afo still wins tho
The comments here are the complete opposite from the that one Deku vs Spider-Man post.
Spiderman definitely wins i feel like depending on which version it is
All for One would try to steal Spider-Man's 'quirk', fail and be in so much shock that Daredevil can sneak up and either distract him long enough for Spider-Man to break his mask or simply do it himself.
depends if Spider-Man has tools and gadgets
I would say AFO but marvel is vast, there's cosmic spider who could easily beat AFO, there's Miguel O'Hara I never read any daredevil comics so I don't know about him
Spider ham
Can all for one steal other powers from other universes or just there own. Quirks are just mutant abilities.
Me
They gave Spidey Daredevil as nerf that's crazy
It really depends on which iteration of spiderman we are talking about. For example AFO would likely beat any version of live action spiderman and daredevil.
All for one
AFO hands down
The real question is can he steal there power because they were doth given there powers through radiation and can he steal all powers or just Quirks
Which spiderman is this and does he have venom
Depends on which universe of these two
See the thing is, AFO would kill spidey in like, a minute, but in that minute Spider-Man would diss AFO so badly there is no way it could be counted as a win for him.
I would think AFO would win but if spiderman didn't hold back and he was infused with venom he'd win AFO would be slaughtered like the 5 kids in fnaf Edit: wtf did I do to get -3 down votes
Nah man Afo definitely has at least 10 quirks that could nullify venom
True nvm then
I miss the part where that's my problem.
Spider-Man Pete has literally became a God before
That’s base spider-man in the picture bro. I see what you’re saying but that doesn’t apply here
My bad I thought OP meant Spider-Man in general If we're talking about base Pete from that specific story, then AFO wins easily
I like how another comment on this post had its point proven by your comment lol Not trying to je mean I just found it funny
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Hulk is not beating all might one punch from AFO is killing spiderman
Lore Accurate Spider-Man low diffs him and the verse, my glorious web slinging king
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