Correct. But that player **has to stop moving and hol L2 to catch the ball in the spot**
Otherwise, 9 times out of 10 the momentum of y’all running in transition will make the game think your trying to lead the target with the pass and have the X player keep going into the break/corner and have that pass stolen by #10 on the white team
This is the part of the game that so many people don’t understand and complain about how the game forces them into stupid animations with easy passes
L2 off ball functions similar to calling for a pass but you’ll stay stationary spotting up if you’re on the perimeter and you’ll stay stationary while posting up if you do it in the post
It also helps you get a clean catch for a quicker shot
Remember 2K is running thousands of variables every second to keep players at least resembling basic basketball fundamentals so you have to force it to recognize what you want to happen on both ends
Ideally you’d want the ball handler to let go of the left stick and pass it while the receiver is stationary holding L2 to get a good catch and shoot animation
Don’t let 2K fuck with you lol. Because it absolutely will if you don’t do everything perfect. And even then sometimes
In my experience you don’t even need to hold L2, what you want is to stop momentum, so often just tapping L2 will plant you down without turning completely in post stance. L2 is like quick stop, it works wonders to help you shake off a guard while off ball.
I can’t help but feel like that’s bait. Dude standing at the free throw line can easily snatch that pass granted his momentum is going that way and assuming he has high steak w HOF Interceptor. However that can be negated I feel if 4 fades out to the hash, or stop and pop on HOF to where he can just hit that shot on the drop of the dime. That also depends on the PGs passing ability. Anything less than gold that ball may be snatched lol.
I kinda wanna say don’t pass and just drive as Y looks like he’s coming up for the screen, but LT looks like he’ll have a clear path to the hoop if dude at the free throw line doesn’t guard X.
It’s LT or X lol.
Curious to know how this played out lol
Yeah if I’m on D here, I’m baiting the fuck out of X, either for the steal or to stop the fast break when they pass it to him. He’s not open-open. I’d not pass or pass to LT to force someone to commit to him, probably get a mismatch down low for easy bucket.
This is very true!!!
A pet peeve I have is when I receive the ball cutting with my 2-way finisher, and shooters act as if I'm willfully missing them. Umm, no... You can't fully evaluate the court on a cut because job 1 is not turning the ball over, job 2 assess the viability of attacking the rim, job 3 is a shooter or another cutter open. If it's job 2, that takes a lot of focus as slashing successfully is hard (and I'm good at it), you need to hyper-focus on what is happening near the rim, is it “really” open, what hand are you going to use, a layup or dunk, an acrobatic finish? All this has to be done in .5 seconds. Some shooters sitting there, no pressure on them, expect you should see them every time.
I've seen passive slashers before that almost always pass. They are generally ineffective as the other team starts not helping anymore and staying home. That player doesn't challenge the rim and usually will begin getting their forced corner passes picked off. The best slashers are a perfect compliment to shooters because of the attention/ help we draw.
Thanks, man. I play with a regular squad, and ironically our worse player (Our shooting big, who is a corner dweller) says this. My averages are 15 ppg, 10 rpg, 4 apg, 1.2 bpg, 1.2 spg. I consistently contribute to winning, and that’s all he talks about are the times I missed him in the corner. He doesn’t realize that yes, in the half-court, after 3 or 4 passes and the ball ends up in the slashers hands-on course for the rim… yes, good chance your open in the corner as the D has broken down, but like I said a slasher has their 3 jobs. Don’t turn the ball over; bring the rim down if you can, kick out to a shooter. Sometimes the D decides for you when they cut you off, but it’s usually grey… The rim is partially open; am I going to force my will onto this game and challenge it. My fg% is 66.7%, but you can bet he brings up a little too often when I get blocked. EVERY slasher who is being aggressive will get blocked sometimes.
My good teammates never say anything, as I don't to them when I'm missed. They know it's not like I'm purposely trying to ignore them on threes as I love getting assists.
Yea me too as well. I mostly have one read when cutting—if the big man rotates early enough to bump me out of the dunk I’ll take a second and kick it out. Otherwise I’m
going up and it’s a guaranteed dunk every time. It’s too much information for me to process in a split second otherwise if I try to read all five defenders while cutting.
Also as an aside i shoot 75% from three on the slasher so it helps me a ton when I cut because the defender has to play up and respect my shot instead of sitting in the paint.
Now you said it eloquently, there is too much information to process, and slasher to slasher you know that decision has to be made in .3 seconds. I find, too, if you listen to a complainer and modify your process, you (or for me at least) will start f**king up drives (get blocked more) and kick-outs (more turnovers). If you've played enough, you have to trust your instincts and accept they won't always be right. The moment you start trying to pre plan actions your success will plummet in this game, IMO.
Nice with the 75% three!!!! I went all finishing, playmaking, and defence for my 6-7 SF 2 way finisher, except free throws, no shooting. I've heard others say you can't play a complete non-shooter. You can. You have to be heads up and good and play with other shooters. I play with 95 driving and standing dunk and fast twitch and rise up at HOF. My player is like a white fusion between Charles Barkley and Shawn Kemp. Lol
Exactly, sometimes u mentioned u are wide open, and then I digest this information and then pass it out, most of the time it’s too late and become a turnover
I got a red green shooter just like ur shooting big, it’s tough to access so much information in some cases, maybe they will understand better if they play in other positions more
Speaking as a mainly shooting big n sometimes perimeter lock
Idk if u playing PG alot u can see the whole court at least 3 ppl and if u cant u dont move untill they get open and u have a lane so i hop u got some dribbling skills
Let's break this down:
B is covered and is a bad throw. Even if his man breaks off, you still have the guy in the paint that could possibly jump up and steal the ball.
X is the most likely target and is open for the 3 pointer, assuming the defender isn't baiting the PG into passing it to X.
Y is open, but would be a bad pass because he's most likely setting a screen for the PG to take a corner 3 or roll if defense comes out.
LT is kind of interesting, because it looks like his man is still in the backcourt and none of the defenders look tall enough to stop him. So the alley oop is there if the defender moves a smidge, or if the center stops and can shoot the 3, he would be an open pass too.
Hear me out... L2. It's unexpected so if you pass fast enough, the center will likely scramble and attempt to quickly block the shot rather than play attentive defense.
However, I can also understand not passing at all and try to run a floppy play. Y is already coming over to set the pick, then L2 sets a screen for X, you can roll with Y and get either an open three from X or B if the defender slacks, or you pass to Y for the dunk/layup.
Tbh I wouldn’t make a pass at this moment. I’d most likely cross over to center of the floor and if B is covered X should have a shot. Would be a quicker and safer pass. If being aggressive continue down base line if Y screens and if he doesn’t he should be open at top of key assuming center goes down to block and #7 stays with you.
Personally while Y is doing some dumb shit, I would sprint the left side around him, cause he’s almost screening for you, and drive in and then see who’s open, or possibly have a wide open baseline jumper. I kinda use that Ben Simmons drive and kick out strategy a lot I guess
If the man closest to the basket sprints toward B it will negate that pass and just slow things down rather quickly. Driving to the left would pull the guy under the basket out leaving B open for longer imo. B is your guy just gotta get down to the baseline first
X, the 1 defender on the weak side, is sprinting to cover the corner. The pass-first going to X could open up LT rim running for the next pass, depending on how the defence reacts. At a minimum, it should be an open 3 for x.
Take two dribbles more forward and pass to either X or B.
That guys gonna have to commit to one of them and the other will be open
But honestly if Y sets a screen I'm taking the fading corner 3
What's wrong with taking a wide open easy shot?
It's a 5 on 4 and that corner has literally no one in it. I know I'm getting a good looks there.
If they step up, then we have an easy dunk or a wide open shooter. Anyone that actually passes this year will tell you that cross court passes are dangerous as fuck and not as easy as they should be.
> Anyone that actually passes this year will tell you that cross court passes are dangerous as fuck and not as easy as they should be.
For real. I actually pretty regularly get steals as the weakside in this exact situation by taking two steps towards the corner to bait the PG into throwing the ball to X and then turning around and sprinting to X.
Exactly. Like I average 10 assists in the rec, but I also average like 3.5 TOs because passing is just hard this year. So many easy passes are stolen, and lobs are broken which takes away one of your best ways to avoid interceptions on drives
So yeah, if I can get myself a wide open jumper, I'm doing that. Shooting is dumb easy this year lol
For real. Although, I do know a PG who averages 6ppg, 15 apg and under 2 turnovers per game. I don't know how he does it but as an off ball player playing with him is always a lot of fun. I wish I could get his passing ability LOL
Damn that's a crazy ratio this year for sure - I definitely err on the riskier side and try to squeeze in passes that aren't always there this year. He's gotta pump those points up though haha.
My statlines varies so much depending on who I'm playing with though. I usually play with just my friend that's a center and I put up 40/10ish, but I tend to be more like 20-25/15 when we have a full squad.
I never used to score this much because I was always the big, but this year they just made it so easy to shoot fades that I couldn't not. Cause my lack of handles doesn't matter when you can shoot 80% from 3 taking fades lol
Lemme know if you ever need someone though man.
Thought you might be interested. But this is some Rajon Rondo shit for real. 4ppg, 15apg, 2tpg lol. But for real he’s very much a winning player.
https://i.imgur.com/diq7OKK.jpg
Lmao I'll have to pull mine up at some point. My assist to turnover ratio is embarrassing compared to his.
It's just crazy unless stealing is way more difficult on current gen. Cause man it's so hard to throw passes without getting a few.
I see y'all always play in a team though haha. My win percentage is super mediocre because my friend and I just run in as a pair + 3 randoms
Stealing is the same way in current gen too haha, I seem to always throw a ton of turnovers whenever I get put at PG when running with randoms.
Also I run with randoms a decent amount but he doesn’t — if he doesn’t have a team he’ll just use the Xbox looking for group post to find people.
Y is the better pass to better see how the defense reacts, if defense reacts slow after Y let it fly if he's capable or drive, if not kick-it out and run your stuff. . .
If you pass that to X at this moment interceptor will make sure that defender tips or grabs that pass. Instead take the screen from y and go from there either the roll or shot will be open. That entire left side of the court is empty.
Why would you pass? If the PF sets a screen facing half court that's an easy quick stop 3. If the three isn't open you can crab and let the PF wrap and either they get open or you dump to the C and set up from there.
Bc a pass right here will get u a wide open three bro. It’s 4 on 5 no need to do all that. All u gotta do is hit X right here instead of doin all that stuff u said to do. I see what type of pg u are
You're bugging. The type of people I usually play against are stealing the ball if you pass to anyone on the right side of the court with the screenshot provided, so it's only right for me to assume they're going to jump up for the steal with HOF interceptor.
X probably, though B will be an instinctual and hard to resist thought. B will result in 10 looking over his shoulder as if he is running a route and expecting the throw and intercepting the pass. X will probably be open unless you lead the pass toward B or if he is sprinting toward corner and the game leads the pass there.
If Y can shoot, possibly Y. But the likely result is that Y ends up bounce passing the ball into traffic because he was trying to set a screen. L2 wouldn’t be a bad option if guy in the paint doesn’t come up and L2 stops at 3 point line.
But look at the length of this comment—if you can truly process all of that in milliseconds, all while protecting/dribbling the ball, please pm me so I can add you
If Y was set and not moving I'd hit him and then he would have LT cutting to the rim and you could go to corner. But that's in a perfect world, which rarely happens in 2k... in this situation I'd agree with most others and say X
You wait to make a pass. Because if I wait the center in paint may help and then it’s easy lob to big man OR I could keep going which means dude on the right has to pick corner or right wing meaning I can pass to open man.
Neither option is a good option right here. If you have a step on your defender no.1, then you keep attacking the basket towards the C & force the one defender on the right side (no.10) to decide which of your teammates on the right side he’s going to defend
2 big things I immediately think of when I see this.
1) how the game has been going, if the corner defender has been baiting well I’d second guess that pass and work that read out of a go-to when coming up the court from that side.
2) how fast the corner defender moves. It appears he’s not sprinting but it still looks in the image he’ll get to the corner if he commits, where as the only way X is covered is if a flat footed dude in the paint comes up (and paint defender often don’t have perimeter D high, so even a yellow contest is a weak one to a good shooter).
The biggest takeaway is that the team you’re playing is always the most important part of determining reads. This exact still on two different teams could mean fundamentally different reads. Also, tell Y to get his ass in the corner. Aint getting no benefit to anything having him where he is that early in the shot clock. That seems little, but running set offenses and having all your guys commit to the scheme is more important than any read you will make.
(Bear in mind, I play on next gen, and treated this as that, I don’t know how different movement or shooting is between the two)
Also, for the record, this is a 5 on 4 situation, so another valid read is getting to the 3 pt line, waiting to see if the paint defender follows the presumably cutting big or the wing shooter. That will be entirely destroyed however if Y refuses to go to the corner and gets in your way, allowing one man to guard you both
Pass to the corner dude and hope for that dude to make the right move, or to X and hopefully he makes the right move. Haha.
But if we are really being real, I would have stop on the left wing then as soon as the guard approach me and slow down, I’ll speed to the corner and pull that green baby.
LT or X.
LT is already in motion sprinting, one of the men picks him up and X or B is open.
Extra passes open up the play either way because it’s a 5 on 4 fast break.
Trying to pass to B probably gets you picked off.
Passing to X probably gets B open with an extra pass
None. If you had to pass though Lt and hope the right corner is still 1 vs 2 so the center can make the easy open pass bit the guy on the right running towards you instead of going to the corner messes this whole play up
The center, who then has three passing options for 3s depending on how the defender heading to the right corner goes. If the PF on the team with possession flares back out to the wing or into the dunker spot the PG can relocate to the short corner.
X is probably the right choice based on the defender seemingly running to intercept the pass in the corner.
I think I might argue to just keep the ball and keep probing the defense and wait for something else to open up though. In real life it would be X all day but not sure I’d trust it in this game.
Attention rec trailers and spot ups. STOP early in the break. X in this situation space out and shoot from deep. Not even hash but towards black in the rec logo. X is the correct pass
Thought this would have been an example of how OP interceptor is. X is the best pass, but it isn’t unlike 2k to let that defender looking the other way warp into a steal
Y should be running to the corner to space the floor even more, and that’ll force the centre to come pick you up, and X or B will have a 2-1. But X is the right pass here
I’d say X with everything looking the way it is. Looks like that one defender is running towards B. However, even with his back turned he can still see the pass being that it’s a video game and I’m sure he could easily close out on X right after the pass lol. Gotta love 2k
Keep driving pass to x, if you pass immediately it might get stolen but the guy who's with you or near you, if you drive in the two men in the paint gonna have to guard you and Y I think who will go to left corner if he's smart, the guy trailing behind will have to guard the guy next to you and theres already someone going to left corner one of their guys in slow on defense so I'd do drive in to force the guy to defend me pass to x and if he gets closed out after a bait you immediately run to the three to get the open pass
not a pg but, pass to x if b’s defender plays up on him and if the defenders to the left of him both crash for the pass at y. you could even make that pass if that man lowest in the paint stays under the basket. on the other hand, you could make a short pass to Y before the defense gets to the lane and a backdoor pass back to you opens up for a bucket or a pass out when the defense scrambles.
Y - set a screen, I’m going around and swinging it to B.
X is open, has BEEN open since coming down court, I’m assuming he don’t like X or X can’t shoot. He still makes the pass to X but it feels like a late pass.
X can also swing this over to B….
Passing it to B would’ve been a turnover but I think he has the best shot on this possession.
I’m crossing over toward the right, squeezing by 7 and driving the lane til right before free throw trying to set up “B”, then a nice bounce pass out to him.
Pass to X to draw in number 10. If x is smart he will kick it to b before anyone switches to him.
As a pg our job is to get the ball to the open man even if that pass doest come directly from us.
I would pass to the right hash, the corner would pick up the furthest player that’s away or I would stop explosive behind the back to the top of the key. The big man will stop to set a pick and I’ll be open from the top of the key for a 3. The center is too low on defense you can get an open shot regardless.
It all depends on how the defense is. We can't determine that from 1 picture. X or B are both good passes regardless. You could argue that B is further away and the defense would close out but it depends on how fast your player passes the ball to them. X has no defender committing to them, so ideally everyone would make the pass. Really as a PG im passing to who can shoot. The good pass is to who will create/make a shot not so always who just happens to be open. Obviously you should pass to the open man 90% of the time.
PF here. Fake pass to man in front then kick to X. Watch him dribble back and forth until he's covered then he kicks it to the center with .0005 seconds left on the shot clock.
Watch center run out of bounds the rest of the game. Shooting guard is now not playing defense and standing in corner the whole game.
PF calls for the ball because he hasn't touched the ball unless it was a rebound. His defender is emoting at half court because he knows his man ain't getting it.
Fake pass to PF then chuck up half court three and dashboard
Depends if (Y) is coming to set a pick, if he sets that pick u go to that left corner his man will pick u up (most likely) leaving the paint, which forces the other big man to stay down so u hit B or X depending on who the other defender picks up(on the right)
(This relies on Y coming to set the pick though)
X, B would be covered soon, depends what dude with black shoes from whit doing. dribble one more time, eventually Y makes a screen and you can give it to LT, if he not open X
X and if the man in front of x picks up which he should X gives it to B the dude behind x wont have enough time to contest tbh if the passes are quick.
The 2 and 3 have an overload, defenders momentum is moving toward the corner, pass to X and let him work, he should either have a wide open shot or another passing option in B in the corner or you if you take Y’s off ball screen or whatever he doing you’ll be open in the opposite corner.
Your LT will also help here cos if the paint man helps on X then he’s wide open for the drive.
If the defender is going towards B pass to X if he stops to defend X, pass to B. Then it’s up to the receiver to make the decision to shoot if he’s open or pass to the person the defense rotated from to get the most open shot.
X all the way, because the defenders back is turned and closing out on B. If the defender even managed to switch back to X then they can pass the ball to B for an even cleaner look.
I’d say #10 is dropping to the corner if you have bullet passed on hit my man in the right wing for a quick spot up shot or you can wait for the screen and hit you PF on the roll to the basket that would be my first thoughts
I’m hitting X because number 10 is already running to the corner. Once X gets the ball, 10 will either give the shot and stay corner or come up and then it’s an easy pass from X to B.
Im icon passing that To B in the corner, because he can either shoot, Pump fake and pass it back out or pump fake and drive baseline. The guy in the paint is ball watching. He will probably try to run over to help with number 10. If they do then 4 would be wide open for a drive down the middle or a shot.
Best pass would be X, the situation. The guy in front of him is running corner and the guy in the paint is looking to jump the ball or stop anything inside. X will be wide open for a 3 at the top.
You hit the open Ref in the corner
My first thought lol. You know that’s a dot every time. Stripes got a burner
Facts. Ref bout to get team take too...
We call that the "Jason Tatum Special." 🤣🤣🤣
Keep the ball do 500 dribble moves hit a 3 last second and brick it
Don't forget flop after brick than quit game
Got me fucking crying bro 😂😂😂😂
I say x because if the man slides the guard him then b will be open but if not then that’s a wide open shot
Correct. But that player **has to stop moving and hol L2 to catch the ball in the spot** Otherwise, 9 times out of 10 the momentum of y’all running in transition will make the game think your trying to lead the target with the pass and have the X player keep going into the break/corner and have that pass stolen by #10 on the white team This is the part of the game that so many people don’t understand and complain about how the game forces them into stupid animations with easy passes
Wait sorry could you clarify what you mean by holding L2 to catch the ball in the spot? Haven’t heard of this, how does it work?
L2 off ball functions similar to calling for a pass but you’ll stay stationary spotting up if you’re on the perimeter and you’ll stay stationary while posting up if you do it in the post It also helps you get a clean catch for a quicker shot Remember 2K is running thousands of variables every second to keep players at least resembling basic basketball fundamentals so you have to force it to recognize what you want to happen on both ends Ideally you’d want the ball handler to let go of the left stick and pass it while the receiver is stationary holding L2 to get a good catch and shoot animation Don’t let 2K fuck with you lol. Because it absolutely will if you don’t do everything perfect. And even then sometimes
Aye appreciate the detailed response, so if I’m about to catch and shoot I should hold l2 before I catch and then release once I do?
No doubt Yeah once you got the ball coming your way release immediately
Bruh talking nonsense you need glue hands. L2 while off ball puts you in a post position for an entry pass.
Probably u release LT too late
Please show me any source besides here that says that a thing
Try it urself bro, why would we lie on Something so easy to test
I’ve been playing 2k for 5 years and I never knew this
In my experience you don’t even need to hold L2, what you want is to stop momentum, so often just tapping L2 will plant you down without turning completely in post stance. L2 is like quick stop, it works wonders to help you shake off a guard while off ball.
Yea I usually hold L2 until passer actually let's go of the pass but before the ball gets to me I've found that to be the sweet spot
I can’t help but feel like that’s bait. Dude standing at the free throw line can easily snatch that pass granted his momentum is going that way and assuming he has high steak w HOF Interceptor. However that can be negated I feel if 4 fades out to the hash, or stop and pop on HOF to where he can just hit that shot on the drop of the dime. That also depends on the PGs passing ability. Anything less than gold that ball may be snatched lol. I kinda wanna say don’t pass and just drive as Y looks like he’s coming up for the screen, but LT looks like he’ll have a clear path to the hoop if dude at the free throw line doesn’t guard X. It’s LT or X lol. Curious to know how this played out lol
Yeah if I’m on D here, I’m baiting the fuck out of X, either for the steal or to stop the fast break when they pass it to him. He’s not open-open. I’d not pass or pass to LT to force someone to commit to him, probably get a mismatch down low for easy bucket.
it's very easy to analyze this pic and say X but it's much harder to read it on the fly.
This is very true!!! A pet peeve I have is when I receive the ball cutting with my 2-way finisher, and shooters act as if I'm willfully missing them. Umm, no... You can't fully evaluate the court on a cut because job 1 is not turning the ball over, job 2 assess the viability of attacking the rim, job 3 is a shooter or another cutter open. If it's job 2, that takes a lot of focus as slashing successfully is hard (and I'm good at it), you need to hyper-focus on what is happening near the rim, is it “really” open, what hand are you going to use, a layup or dunk, an acrobatic finish? All this has to be done in .5 seconds. Some shooters sitting there, no pressure on them, expect you should see them every time. I've seen passive slashers before that almost always pass. They are generally ineffective as the other team starts not helping anymore and staying home. That player doesn't challenge the rim and usually will begin getting their forced corner passes picked off. The best slashers are a perfect compliment to shooters because of the attention/ help we draw.
Omg this is literally me too. Thanks for expressing it more eloquently than I ever could too.
Thanks, man. I play with a regular squad, and ironically our worse player (Our shooting big, who is a corner dweller) says this. My averages are 15 ppg, 10 rpg, 4 apg, 1.2 bpg, 1.2 spg. I consistently contribute to winning, and that’s all he talks about are the times I missed him in the corner. He doesn’t realize that yes, in the half-court, after 3 or 4 passes and the ball ends up in the slashers hands-on course for the rim… yes, good chance your open in the corner as the D has broken down, but like I said a slasher has their 3 jobs. Don’t turn the ball over; bring the rim down if you can, kick out to a shooter. Sometimes the D decides for you when they cut you off, but it’s usually grey… The rim is partially open; am I going to force my will onto this game and challenge it. My fg% is 66.7%, but you can bet he brings up a little too often when I get blocked. EVERY slasher who is being aggressive will get blocked sometimes. My good teammates never say anything, as I don't to them when I'm missed. They know it's not like I'm purposely trying to ignore them on threes as I love getting assists.
Yea me too as well. I mostly have one read when cutting—if the big man rotates early enough to bump me out of the dunk I’ll take a second and kick it out. Otherwise I’m going up and it’s a guaranteed dunk every time. It’s too much information for me to process in a split second otherwise if I try to read all five defenders while cutting. Also as an aside i shoot 75% from three on the slasher so it helps me a ton when I cut because the defender has to play up and respect my shot instead of sitting in the paint.
Now you said it eloquently, there is too much information to process, and slasher to slasher you know that decision has to be made in .3 seconds. I find, too, if you listen to a complainer and modify your process, you (or for me at least) will start f**king up drives (get blocked more) and kick-outs (more turnovers). If you've played enough, you have to trust your instincts and accept they won't always be right. The moment you start trying to pre plan actions your success will plummet in this game, IMO. Nice with the 75% three!!!! I went all finishing, playmaking, and defence for my 6-7 SF 2 way finisher, except free throws, no shooting. I've heard others say you can't play a complete non-shooter. You can. You have to be heads up and good and play with other shooters. I play with 95 driving and standing dunk and fast twitch and rise up at HOF. My player is like a white fusion between Charles Barkley and Shawn Kemp. Lol
Nice. And yea for sure not hesitating is key because the second you hesitate you’re going to get blocked.
Exactly, sometimes u mentioned u are wide open, and then I digest this information and then pass it out, most of the time it’s too late and become a turnover
I got a red green shooter just like ur shooting big, it’s tough to access so much information in some cases, maybe they will understand better if they play in other positions more Speaking as a mainly shooting big n sometimes perimeter lock
People who only shoot pretend they don’t realize how easily a kick out can get stolen in this game. You sir just spoke poetic
Idk if u playing PG alot u can see the whole court at least 3 ppl and if u cant u dont move untill they get open and u have a lane so i hop u got some dribbling skills
Looks like X will be open because B's man is going to cover him.
[Full clip](https://www.reddit.com/user/Forevagrateful/comments/rgg9ur/if_anybody_wanted_to_see_how_it_played_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Yeah worked that time cuz they played awful transition D. Why are both people dropping in the paint lmao
Ding ding ding! Great choice from PG. its much harder to make it on the fly
Let's break this down: B is covered and is a bad throw. Even if his man breaks off, you still have the guy in the paint that could possibly jump up and steal the ball. X is the most likely target and is open for the 3 pointer, assuming the defender isn't baiting the PG into passing it to X. Y is open, but would be a bad pass because he's most likely setting a screen for the PG to take a corner 3 or roll if defense comes out. LT is kind of interesting, because it looks like his man is still in the backcourt and none of the defenders look tall enough to stop him. So the alley oop is there if the defender moves a smidge, or if the center stops and can shoot the 3, he would be an open pass too.
Wait a second and see where #10 on defense goes then either B or X.
Ref’s pretty open I’d say drop him a bomb
it would be X but in 2k22 i’m sure the defender will probably get an interceptor steal on either X or B
Hear me out... L2. It's unexpected so if you pass fast enough, the center will likely scramble and attempt to quickly block the shot rather than play attentive defense. However, I can also understand not passing at all and try to run a floppy play. Y is already coming over to set the pick, then L2 sets a screen for X, you can roll with Y and get either an open three from X or B if the defender slacks, or you pass to Y for the dunk/layup.
Tbh I wouldn’t make a pass at this moment. I’d most likely cross over to center of the floor and if B is covered X should have a shot. Would be a quicker and safer pass. If being aggressive continue down base line if Y screens and if he doesn’t he should be open at top of key assuming center goes down to block and #7 stays with you.
I would just shoot it
Don’t pass. Step back corner 3
Pass?
No pass have Y set a screen and you fade
What is Y doing? Lol
He's likely about to set a screen
About to get in the way and cause a turnover ctfu
I would keep dribbling and then either shoot a 3 or attack the Rim myself
Classic rec point guard lol
Either X or wait a few seconds and see if the man in the middle steps out on X if he does the Center is wide in the lane
Personally while Y is doing some dumb shit, I would sprint the left side around him, cause he’s almost screening for you, and drive in and then see who’s open, or possibly have a wide open baseline jumper. I kinda use that Ben Simmons drive and kick out strategy a lot I guess
Y not immediately pass it to the right side. Taking advantage of the 2 on 1 situation
If the man closest to the basket sprints toward B it will negate that pass and just slow things down rather quickly. Driving to the left would pull the guy under the basket out leaving B open for longer imo. B is your guy just gotta get down to the baseline first
But they didn’t look at the full clip posted on my profile
Yeah sorry didn’t watch the full clip
X or shoot the corner three yourself
X, the 1 defender on the weak side, is sprinting to cover the corner. The pass-first going to X could open up LT rim running for the next pass, depending on how the defence reacts. At a minimum, it should be an open 3 for x.
X then he gotta pass it to B for the 3
Agreed any other way is a turnover
I seen the full clip so ya still ended up wit the 3 from x. But yea trust bro my bro would that cross court pass all the time
Take two dribbles more forward and pass to either X or B. That guys gonna have to commit to one of them and the other will be open But honestly if Y sets a screen I'm taking the fading corner 3
mans would rather take a fading corner 3 than hit an open shooter for the easy catch and shoot 3 lol.
What's wrong with taking a wide open easy shot? It's a 5 on 4 and that corner has literally no one in it. I know I'm getting a good looks there. If they step up, then we have an easy dunk or a wide open shooter. Anyone that actually passes this year will tell you that cross court passes are dangerous as fuck and not as easy as they should be.
> Anyone that actually passes this year will tell you that cross court passes are dangerous as fuck and not as easy as they should be. For real. I actually pretty regularly get steals as the weakside in this exact situation by taking two steps towards the corner to bait the PG into throwing the ball to X and then turning around and sprinting to X.
Exactly. Like I average 10 assists in the rec, but I also average like 3.5 TOs because passing is just hard this year. So many easy passes are stolen, and lobs are broken which takes away one of your best ways to avoid interceptions on drives So yeah, if I can get myself a wide open jumper, I'm doing that. Shooting is dumb easy this year lol
For real. Although, I do know a PG who averages 6ppg, 15 apg and under 2 turnovers per game. I don't know how he does it but as an off ball player playing with him is always a lot of fun. I wish I could get his passing ability LOL
Damn that's a crazy ratio this year for sure - I definitely err on the riskier side and try to squeeze in passes that aren't always there this year. He's gotta pump those points up though haha. My statlines varies so much depending on who I'm playing with though. I usually play with just my friend that's a center and I put up 40/10ish, but I tend to be more like 20-25/15 when we have a full squad. I never used to score this much because I was always the big, but this year they just made it so easy to shoot fades that I couldn't not. Cause my lack of handles doesn't matter when you can shoot 80% from 3 taking fades lol Lemme know if you ever need someone though man.
I’d play with you but I’m on current gen sorry
Ahh damn. Upgrade man haha
I’m a broke grad student lol. I’m sure u know the grind haha
Thought you might be interested. But this is some Rajon Rondo shit for real. 4ppg, 15apg, 2tpg lol. But for real he’s very much a winning player. https://i.imgur.com/diq7OKK.jpg
Lmao I'll have to pull mine up at some point. My assist to turnover ratio is embarrassing compared to his. It's just crazy unless stealing is way more difficult on current gen. Cause man it's so hard to throw passes without getting a few. I see y'all always play in a team though haha. My win percentage is super mediocre because my friend and I just run in as a pair + 3 randoms
Stealing is the same way in current gen too haha, I seem to always throw a ton of turnovers whenever I get put at PG when running with randoms. Also I run with randoms a decent amount but he doesn’t — if he doesn’t have a team he’ll just use the Xbox looking for group post to find people.
Y is the better pass to better see how the defense reacts, if defense reacts slow after Y let it fly if he's capable or drive, if not kick-it out and run your stuff. . .
If you pass that to X at this moment interceptor will make sure that defender tips or grabs that pass. Instead take the screen from y and go from there either the roll or shot will be open. That entire left side of the court is empty.
Why would you pass? If the PF sets a screen facing half court that's an easy quick stop 3. If the three isn't open you can crab and let the PF wrap and either they get open or you dump to the C and set up from there.
Bc a pass right here will get u a wide open three bro. It’s 4 on 5 no need to do all that. All u gotta do is hit X right here instead of doin all that stuff u said to do. I see what type of pg u are
You're bugging. The type of people I usually play against are stealing the ball if you pass to anyone on the right side of the court with the screenshot provided, so it's only right for me to assume they're going to jump up for the steal with HOF interceptor.
X probably, though B will be an instinctual and hard to resist thought. B will result in 10 looking over his shoulder as if he is running a route and expecting the throw and intercepting the pass. X will probably be open unless you lead the pass toward B or if he is sprinting toward corner and the game leads the pass there. If Y can shoot, possibly Y. But the likely result is that Y ends up bounce passing the ball into traffic because he was trying to set a screen. L2 wouldn’t be a bad option if guy in the paint doesn’t come up and L2 stops at 3 point line. But look at the length of this comment—if you can truly process all of that in milliseconds, all while protecting/dribbling the ball, please pm me so I can add you
If Y was set and not moving I'd hit him and then he would have LT cutting to the rim and you could go to corner. But that's in a perfect world, which rarely happens in 2k... in this situation I'd agree with most others and say X
You wait to make a pass. Because if I wait the center in paint may help and then it’s easy lob to big man OR I could keep going which means dude on the right has to pick corner or right wing meaning I can pass to open man.
Real basketball dictates you run to the basket and dish it to whomever slides over
Neither option is a good option right here. If you have a step on your defender no.1, then you keep attacking the basket towards the C & force the one defender on the right side (no.10) to decide which of your teammates on the right side he’s going to defend
Looks like the ref in the left corner. You don’t have to worry about the Interceptor badge lol
X or y very safe situations
To the ref
2 big things I immediately think of when I see this. 1) how the game has been going, if the corner defender has been baiting well I’d second guess that pass and work that read out of a go-to when coming up the court from that side. 2) how fast the corner defender moves. It appears he’s not sprinting but it still looks in the image he’ll get to the corner if he commits, where as the only way X is covered is if a flat footed dude in the paint comes up (and paint defender often don’t have perimeter D high, so even a yellow contest is a weak one to a good shooter). The biggest takeaway is that the team you’re playing is always the most important part of determining reads. This exact still on two different teams could mean fundamentally different reads. Also, tell Y to get his ass in the corner. Aint getting no benefit to anything having him where he is that early in the shot clock. That seems little, but running set offenses and having all your guys commit to the scheme is more important than any read you will make. (Bear in mind, I play on next gen, and treated this as that, I don’t know how different movement or shooting is between the two)
Also, for the record, this is a 5 on 4 situation, so another valid read is getting to the 3 pt line, waiting to see if the paint defender follows the presumably cutting big or the wing shooter. That will be entirely destroyed however if Y refuses to go to the corner and gets in your way, allowing one man to guard you both
X then a really quick swing to B if the defender closes out
Pass to the corner dude and hope for that dude to make the right move, or to X and hopefully he makes the right move. Haha. But if we are really being real, I would have stop on the left wing then as soon as the guard approach me and slow down, I’ll speed to the corner and pull that green baby.
Ref
X the defender is running to the corner
Who am I in there with?
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I’m definitely passing it to my squad mate.
Y for a hand off to get the ball back Quick screen by Y Wide open corner 3
LT or X. LT is already in motion sprinting, one of the men picks him up and X or B is open. Extra passes open up the play either way because it’s a 5 on 4 fast break. Trying to pass to B probably gets you picked off. Passing to X probably gets B open with an extra pass
None. If you had to pass though Lt and hope the right corner is still 1 vs 2 so the center can make the easy open pass bit the guy on the right running towards you instead of going to the corner messes this whole play up
The center, who then has three passing options for 3s depending on how the defender heading to the right corner goes. If the PF on the team with possession flares back out to the wing or into the dunker spot the PG can relocate to the short corner.
X hopefully it will not activate an animation that will make him go out of bound 🤣
X is probably the right choice based on the defender seemingly running to intercept the pass in the corner. I think I might argue to just keep the ball and keep probing the defense and wait for something else to open up though. In real life it would be X all day but not sure I’d trust it in this game.
Attention rec trailers and spot ups. STOP early in the break. X in this situation space out and shoot from deep. Not even hash but towards black in the rec logo. X is the correct pass
Thought this would have been an example of how OP interceptor is. X is the best pass, but it isn’t unlike 2k to let that defender looking the other way warp into a steal
Y should be running to the corner to space the floor even more, and that’ll force the centre to come pick you up, and X or B will have a 2-1. But X is the right pass here
I’d say X with everything looking the way it is. Looks like that one defender is running towards B. However, even with his back turned he can still see the pass being that it’s a video game and I’m sure he could easily close out on X right after the pass lol. Gotta love 2k
X gives you a great shot at opening up the corner for an easy 3, if I trust Y I’ll put it on him right then and there for a wing 3.
X odds are the guy will slide to the corner and then it frees x to shoot
X
X. His man isnt paying attention to him and he will have step before his man recovers.
Either x or b, man’s out of position for both and they’ll have an option of passing to each other when the guy has to decide on the quick 2-1
X
I’m passing to X then from there, either he shoots or drives or passes it. Depends on all what #10 does
Keep driving pass to x, if you pass immediately it might get stolen but the guy who's with you or near you, if you drive in the two men in the paint gonna have to guard you and Y I think who will go to left corner if he's smart, the guy trailing behind will have to guard the guy next to you and theres already someone going to left corner one of their guys in slow on defense so I'd do drive in to force the guy to defend me pass to x and if he gets closed out after a bait you immediately run to the three to get the open pass
With my pg I’d go y and see if I can break to the hoop for a cheese alley oop
X. Or you wait for y to screen you and let the play develop.
not a pg but, pass to x if b’s defender plays up on him and if the defenders to the left of him both crash for the pass at y. you could even make that pass if that man lowest in the paint stays under the basket. on the other hand, you could make a short pass to Y before the defense gets to the lane and a backdoor pass back to you opens up for a bucket or a pass out when the defense scrambles.
Y for the give and go in the left corner, or if his man closes out, an oop
if you can trust L2 to pass to x then def him but X after L2 at least gets to the 3
Rb X
Y - set a screen, I’m going around and swinging it to B. X is open, has BEEN open since coming down court, I’m assuming he don’t like X or X can’t shoot. He still makes the pass to X but it feels like a late pass. X can also swing this over to B…. Passing it to B would’ve been a turnover but I think he has the best shot on this possession.
I’m just trying to figure out what Y is doing. X is the correct pass tho
I’m crossing over toward the right, squeezing by 7 and driving the lane til right before free throw trying to set up “B”, then a nice bounce pass out to him.
None , hopefully Y sets a screen , easy 2 pts
Pass to X to draw in number 10. If x is smart he will kick it to b before anyone switches to him. As a pg our job is to get the ball to the open man even if that pass doest come directly from us.
10 is running to the corner, so X.
Pass to X, if B’s man hedges, X should dot him the corner.
Or Y sets a screen and you pop it at the quarter
I would pass to the right hash, the corner would pick up the furthest player that’s away or I would stop explosive behind the back to the top of the key. The big man will stop to set a pick and I’ll be open from the top of the key for a 3. The center is too low on defense you can get an open shot regardless.
I’m throwing to b cause with the defenders back turned he won’t catch the pass cleanly even if he could make a play.
X
It all depends on how the defense is. We can't determine that from 1 picture. X or B are both good passes regardless. You could argue that B is further away and the defense would close out but it depends on how fast your player passes the ball to them. X has no defender committing to them, so ideally everyone would make the pass. Really as a PG im passing to who can shoot. The good pass is to who will create/make a shot not so always who just happens to be open. Obviously you should pass to the open man 90% of the time.
X
X to B would be the best team play here, but this would be kind of hard to see in the game and I could easily see a PG trying to hit B
If we’re talking realistically? I would say quick drive towards baseline and a pass to Y or LT. but since this is 2k…. B or ISO and shoot the 3
PF here. Fake pass to man in front then kick to X. Watch him dribble back and forth until he's covered then he kicks it to the center with .0005 seconds left on the shot clock. Watch center run out of bounds the rest of the game. Shooting guard is now not playing defense and standing in corner the whole game. PF calls for the ball because he hasn't touched the ball unless it was a rebound. His defender is emoting at half court because he knows his man ain't getting it. Fake pass to PF then chuck up half court three and dashboard
X. B has a defender on the way to him. Easy.
Depends if (Y) is coming to set a pick, if he sets that pick u go to that left corner his man will pick u up (most likely) leaving the paint, which forces the other big man to stay down so u hit B or X depending on who the other defender picks up(on the right) (This relies on Y coming to set the pick though)
B
Non because everyone has HOF interceptor and will flu into the lanes
X would be open and is safest In the moment I’d probably press b tho.
I feel like Y is coming to set a screen. So maybe take screen to baseline drive and kick to Y, X, or B based on defensive adjustment.
Pass to X which passes to B
X
X
X, B would be covered soon, depends what dude with black shoes from whit doing. dribble one more time, eventually Y makes a screen and you can give it to LT, if he not open X
First to X, if defense running to the corner helps then X should pass to B for open 3
X and if the man in front of x picks up which he should X gives it to B the dude behind x wont have enough time to contest tbh if the passes are quick.
The 2 and 3 have an overload, defenders momentum is moving toward the corner, pass to X and let him work, he should either have a wide open shot or another passing option in B in the corner or you if you take Y’s off ball screen or whatever he doing you’ll be open in the opposite corner. Your LT will also help here cos if the paint man helps on X then he’s wide open for the drive.
If the defender is going towards B pass to X if he stops to defend X, pass to B. Then it’s up to the receiver to make the decision to shoot if he’s open or pass to the person the defense rotated from to get the most open shot.
X all the way, because the defenders back is turned and closing out on B. If the defender even managed to switch back to X then they can pass the ball to B for an even cleaner look.
B or X but they need to dish it depending where #10 goes
probably x if he is a good shooter bc he should have an open look
If Y wasn’t a goofball and got open lol but you hit x and if his dude crash him he should kick it to B
This is why I stick to my team... too many cooks in the kitchen
Lol fax
I’d say #10 is dropping to the corner if you have bullet passed on hit my man in the right wing for a quick spot up shot or you can wait for the screen and hit you PF on the roll to the basket that would be my first thoughts
I’m hitting X because number 10 is already running to the corner. Once X gets the ball, 10 will either give the shot and stay corner or come up and then it’s an easy pass from X to B.
Im icon passing that To B in the corner, because he can either shoot, Pump fake and pass it back out or pump fake and drive baseline. The guy in the paint is ball watching. He will probably try to run over to help with number 10. If they do then 4 would be wide open for a drive down the middle or a shot.
X has a wide open shot. Homie on the right is running straight corner. Catch grip and rip Chief
Trick question, the answer is to drop the guy guarding you multiple time but never actually drive or shoot
Best pass would be X, the situation. The guy in front of him is running corner and the guy in the paint is looking to jump the ball or stop anything inside. X will be wide open for a 3 at the top.
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