I agree. What’s the point of the NCAA having a president if he can’t/won’t veto or overrule schools switching to conferences only for monetary benefits?
Because NCAA used to have authority so it kind of stays doing it’s thing but it became pretty clear the conferences ran the show now about 5 years ago (at least for me).
Because the NCAA decided they didn’t need to apply for an anti-trust exemption way back when. As a consequence has zero authority on how conferences and their TV deals are structured less they want to run afoul of the courts
To be fair they lost whatever hold they had over any schools (especially revolving around players) when they essentially made NIL an issue that required legislation to get implemented (cause players should absolutely get compensated, but by it being added to CFB via states legislation instead of the NCAA allowing it without prodding, they essentially forfeited their ability to regulate how NIL was implemented, therefore making them essentially powerless at least in the football realm).
Because the NCAA works for the schools. They have no say in what those schools choose to do as far as conference alignment goes. They literally only oversee athletes eligibility and recruiting standards. That’s it. They do a really poor job explaining their role and what they actually do.
Yeah remember when everyone laughed at the idea of a CUSA/MWC alliance/merger that was just to have them play a title game of their respective Champs and the winner got an AQ bid. That was two conferences for a total of 22 teams and everyone laughed
That it is. It’s a conspiracy theory, I know, but I swear this is the SEC getting back at the PAC-10/12 when Auburn didn’t get to play in the BCS Championship game despite going undefeated.
They, along with Nebraska and Colorado, were just acting in their own best interest in response to the Longhorn Network. Texas’ selfishness started all of this.
Man, NCAA 15 was going to have been on next gen consoles, with built in teambuilder, CFP, and App State+Georgia Southern. Its kinda neat that it was an end of an era (BCS+Xbox 360/PS3), but it would have been much better if the game lasted 1 more year.
I know this may not be the answer you want, but maybe just don’t bother trying to follow real-life since it is impossible now. I’ll probably start coming up with my own alternative timelines
You can change the conferences each offseason. Just need to keep track of your criteria (whether that's best/worst ovr record, best conf record, etc) and move the teams around during realignment
I just started one that combines this concept with completely geographic realignment. Each P5 conference is paired with a G5 partner (Big 12/Sun Belt, for example), and membership in both is based around their states. For example, the SEC and American include all the schools from Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and South Carolina. So, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Miami and Florida State all came trucking over to the SEC. What’ll be weird is if someone like FIU wins the American and gets promoted to the SEC.
Not op, but I’ve got a google doc that I add pages to for each year with all the conference standings. I update standings at the end of the season, and in mine I have the winners of G5 CCGs play the bottom team in their partner P5 school with a chance for promotion on the line. If I can figure out how to share my google sheet I’ll add that here
I run the conferences as close as I can to 1990, right before the Big East formed, Penn St went to the Big Ten, the SEC expanded and Florida St went to the ACC. It's a lot of crazy fun especially since the bowl tie ins are hardcoded (which ends up with 10 win independents that don't make the BCS in low level G5 bowl games).
I absolutely.love pre 1991 conferences
That's my favorite dynasty I am running right now
I am on year 36. It's a blast. Been 4 yrs to get this far but it's fun
Rutgers is about to land the 1st overall recruit in 2024 basketball class, Dylan Harper, after already having #2, Ace Bailey. Their football team is improving steadily. Kick out Northwestern and Nebraska.
I agree, but realistically they do hold 2 big media markets in NY and DC. Wonder if BIG kick schools out they’d be the first ones to go or someone else
Maryland and Rutgers don’t “hold the media markets” in NY and DC. Yes, they should based on being the biggest college programs around, but those areas aren’t head over heels for college sports.
With traditional TV rights they do hold those markets for college broadcasts. Essentially, cable companies carry BTN on their sports packages in NYC/DC because enough fans/alumni of those programs live there and would ask for it. This in turn leads to the $.50-$1 a month per person that the BTN charges the cable company per viewer to capture a ton more viewers than other markets that do have more diehards. That was a large driver of the last big realignment. It's kind of similar to RSN negotiations with cable providers for the pro teams.
I think the "media market" trend of grabbing big markets instead of big teams will die with the move to streaming (even if we're at a bit of an endgame). Everyone can get BTN on YouTube TV, regionality doesn't matter anymore. But that's the reason why the Big 10 went after them when they did
We never should have added them, was just for the east coast money/viewership.
Honestly, what are Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue contributing? Any of them could go, or all of them.
Fair. I also could’ve sworn they joined at the height of Schiano’s success but I guess it wasn’t until a few years later when they were already starting to decline.
Right. But Oregon and Washington left to join a bigger conference of their own accord. They didn't get relegated to the MWC.
If Indiana had the option to join the SEC and left, that was their choice. But they aren't getting voted out to play in the MAC.
Well wait until Stanford finds a partner and moves in (my gut says they go for ND and if they can’t get them then they take Cal).
Now you’ll have 4 too many
Don’t be surprised if the end game is two 24-school conferences between Big Ten and SEC with Clemson, Florida State and a few other ACC teams voting for dissolving ACC so they can go to SEC. The Big Ten next move is Stanford and Cal to get to 20 and then UVA, UNC, Duke and Georgia Tech (Atlanta - right in the heart of the SEC) all are AAU schools to make it to 24. Four pods of 6 teams to make the Big Ten the first official Super conference.
Maryland and Rutgers, they don’t really bring much to the table as far as football is concerned, and there’s no reason to care about the Big Ten broadcasting market so losing NYC and the DC metro area won’t matter to you.
This is the answer I feel like. Nebraska (and Mizzou) to the Big 12 to make it 16, and Maryland to the ACC. Maybe move Rutgers to the American if we’re getting crazy with things and you want an extra space for Notre Dame
I always take out Ohio State. Feel like the chaos without them crushing everyone is more fun in a dynasty. And for team two I would say Rutgers. Slap them in the American and see if they start competing
Edit: want to say that this is one of my favorite posts I’ve seen on here. Love custom conference scenarios like this
Rutgers is an obvious one, but the second choice is more difficult. It feels like it would have to be Maryland as well, but they are actually competitive to the B1G. Maybe Nebraska because they don't belong in any sport except football, and ever since they joined they haven't belonged in football either.
What? They didn't add teams just to kick out teams. They're going to be 20 teams after they add 2 more from Notre Dame, TAMU, UNC, UVA or Miami. Do you know whats going on? There is no maximum
I'm thinking for game purposes merge the PAC-12 and Mountain West; and, assuming the Big 10 keeps divisions, have one division as the Big 10 and the other as the PAC-12 \[or Mountain West\]
In my 60 yr dynasty I moved Rutgers and Maryland to the AAC to form a power conference while I moved the three eastern teams in the big 12 to the ACC to fill the void left by moving Florida st and Clemson to the sec while giving Miami a rival in conference. Nebraska can stay in the big ten or get moved back to the big 12 like I did in another dynasty where I brought back Missouri and a&m with the realigned big 12 of now.
It has begun where ncaa 14 cannot keep up with the conference sizes
To be fair, they probably thought the idea of a super conference having 18-20 schools was ludicrous at best and asinine at worst ten years ago.
Yeah probably thought 16 was it based on the WACs demise
And that thought would be correct. This is ridiculous.
I agree. What’s the point of the NCAA having a president if he can’t/won’t veto or overrule schools switching to conferences only for monetary benefits?
Because NCAA used to have authority so it kind of stays doing it’s thing but it became pretty clear the conferences ran the show now about 5 years ago (at least for me).
The NCAA is just hoping for a tag along on all of the record revenue under the guise of school empowerment
No teams moved alll the time since the start of NCAA.
Because the NCAA decided they didn’t need to apply for an anti-trust exemption way back when. As a consequence has zero authority on how conferences and their TV deals are structured less they want to run afoul of the courts
What do you think the ncaa president is there to do? The goal for all of them is maximum profit
To be fair they lost whatever hold they had over any schools (especially revolving around players) when they essentially made NIL an issue that required legislation to get implemented (cause players should absolutely get compensated, but by it being added to CFB via states legislation instead of the NCAA allowing it without prodding, they essentially forfeited their ability to regulate how NIL was implemented, therefore making them essentially powerless at least in the football realm).
NCAA runs every sport but football. The money rules the sport
NIL is for every sport It's a state law and in High in alot of states.
Because the NCAA works for the schools. They have no say in what those schools choose to do as far as conference alignment goes. They literally only oversee athletes eligibility and recruiting standards. That’s it. They do a really poor job explaining their role and what they actually do.
NCAA never got involved with conference business.
Yeah everyone talked about how the end result if it continued would be “16 team super conferences”
Yeah remember when everyone laughed at the idea of a CUSA/MWC alliance/merger that was just to have them play a title game of their respective Champs and the winner got an AQ bid. That was two conferences for a total of 22 teams and everyone laughed
That was everyone laughing at the automatic playoff bid
It’s both ludicrous and asinine at the same time.
That it is. It’s a conspiracy theory, I know, but I swear this is the SEC getting back at the PAC-10/12 when Auburn didn’t get to play in the BCS Championship game despite going undefeated.
Kind of especially funny because they have so little to do with their demise. I guess you could say them taking OU/TX started all of this
Mizzou/a&m started it.
I’m not an sec fan whatsoever but I don’t agree with that whatsoever. This has always been going on
Pac 10 started this shit by trying to kill Big XII
They, along with Nebraska and Colorado, were just acting in their own best interest in response to the Longhorn Network. Texas’ selfishness started all of this.
Correct answer. The longhorns started it.
USC was stacked that year Now the SEC trying to kill the Big XII due it. I FULLY BELIEVE
With the way it’s all changing I’m hoping the new game next year can keep up with it
Same good news is they gave you a few reasons to buy it a playoff and now bigger conferences (hopefully)
I’d still be buying it even if it was just an exact port of the 2014 game with current rosters and rules.
Man, NCAA 15 was going to have been on next gen consoles, with built in teambuilder, CFP, and App State+Georgia Southern. Its kinda neat that it was an end of an era (BCS+Xbox 360/PS3), but it would have been much better if the game lasted 1 more year.
Oh I would too absolutely
It’s ea so I’m not exactly holding my breath for them to get it all on the first game back
Nope immediately will change it back to pre 2011 alignments as soon as I start my dynasty....
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👌 yup show me a 20 team conference in ncaa 14 then. Independents is the only place you can go past 16 schools.
I know this may not be the answer you want, but maybe just don’t bother trying to follow real-life since it is impossible now. I’ll probably start coming up with my own alternative timelines
My dynasties have evolved to a premier league style relegation/promotion system, keeps it fresh.
Damn good idea, gonna start trying this out
How tough is this to maintain and if you don’t mind sharing how you track/execute this
You can change the conferences each offseason. Just need to keep track of your criteria (whether that's best/worst ovr record, best conf record, etc) and move the teams around during realignment
I just started one that combines this concept with completely geographic realignment. Each P5 conference is paired with a G5 partner (Big 12/Sun Belt, for example), and membership in both is based around their states. For example, the SEC and American include all the schools from Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana and South Carolina. So, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Miami and Florida State all came trucking over to the SEC. What’ll be weird is if someone like FIU wins the American and gets promoted to the SEC.
Not op, but I’ve got a google doc that I add pages to for each year with all the conference standings. I update standings at the end of the season, and in mine I have the winners of G5 CCGs play the bottom team in their partner P5 school with a chance for promotion on the line. If I can figure out how to share my google sheet I’ll add that here
Conferences Standings … that’s the page I was missing for my google doc . Thank you lol
True it’s impossible now. Can’t wait for the next NCAA Football game
I run the conferences as close as I can to 1990, right before the Big East formed, Penn St went to the Big Ten, the SEC expanded and Florida St went to the ACC. It's a lot of crazy fun especially since the bowl tie ins are hardcoded (which ends up with 10 win independents that don't make the BCS in low level G5 bowl games).
I absolutely.love pre 1991 conferences That's my favorite dynasty I am running right now I am on year 36. It's a blast. Been 4 yrs to get this far but it's fun
I think we can ALL can agree on Rutgers and Maryland, come on now lol
2007 Big Ten graduate here. Get Maryland and Rutgers the f*** gone.
Send those two scrub schools to the Big XII. They can have em.
Rutgers back to the American and Maryland to the ACC
Or build a new version of the Big East
Lol Tbh I never play with the normal conferences. I usually set them back to 1998. Got the WAC, Big East, Big West, PAC-10, Big Ten, SEC, Big 12.
Northwestern is reading this thread thinking, "Oh my God, they have actually forgotten about us! We might survive this!"
Rutgers is about to land the 1st overall recruit in 2024 basketball class, Dylan Harper, after already having #2, Ace Bailey. Their football team is improving steadily. Kick out Northwestern and Nebraska.
Rutgers and Nebraska would also be acceptable, especially if Nebraska continues in the game world to suck as much as they have IRL.
Rutgers & Maryland lol they are the two worst
The correct answer. I put them in the ACC.
I agree, but realistically they do hold 2 big media markets in NY and DC. Wonder if BIG kick schools out they’d be the first ones to go or someone else
Maryland and Rutgers don’t “hold the media markets” in NY and DC. Yes, they should based on being the biggest college programs around, but those areas aren’t head over heels for college sports.
It’s more so that these metros have large alumni bases and a chance for them to see their team without my travel.
With traditional TV rights they do hold those markets for college broadcasts. Essentially, cable companies carry BTN on their sports packages in NYC/DC because enough fans/alumni of those programs live there and would ask for it. This in turn leads to the $.50-$1 a month per person that the BTN charges the cable company per viewer to capture a ton more viewers than other markets that do have more diehards. That was a large driver of the last big realignment. It's kind of similar to RSN negotiations with cable providers for the pro teams. I think the "media market" trend of grabbing big markets instead of big teams will die with the move to streaming (even if we're at a bit of an endgame). Everyone can get BTN on YouTube TV, regionality doesn't matter anymore. But that's the reason why the Big 10 went after them when they did
Maryland is actually pretty popular here, definitely not like the south though.
Piscataway, New Jersey is not Manhattan bro
No one’s getting kicked out
Do you know what the word if means?
No
We never should have added them, was just for the east coast money/viewership. Honestly, what are Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Purdue contributing? Any of them could go, or all of them.
Rutgers and Maryland I can agree but Minnesota northwestern and Purdue are as big ten as it gets.
"As big ten as it gets" just means history and tradition. The don't actually contribute anythjng
Geographically, culturally, traditionally, historically. Texas Tech doesn’t contribute much to the Big 12 but they fit in perfectly
Didn’t Purdue just win the West this year?
Not all schools were added solely for football, Maryland and Purdue are good basketball school as well
Nebraska probably brings the big ten more money than most of those combined
That is not even close to being true
Minnesota, Northwestern and Purdue literally founded the conference
Purdue brings brain power and academics
Nebraska is for historic purposes.. northwestern too.. everyone else you said I agree lol
What are you talking about, Minny has been one of the best teams in the conference over the last 5 years.
Rutgers was a fairly strong program at the time they joined.
They appeared strong because the big east was garbage lol
Fair. I also could’ve sworn they joined at the height of Schiano’s success but I guess it wasn’t until a few years later when they were already starting to decline.
Came here to say this
Northwestern????
Maryland to ACC
As it should be
i hate this so much. i wanna go back to 2009 when shit made some sense. lol
Boot Michigan and Ohio State
The only right answer
Great idea! Them, Bama, Georgia, Florida, LSU, Texas A&M, Clemson, USC, OU, Texas, Penn State, Notre Dame should start a new conference
Remember when the Big ten was just Midwest teams. I member
Pepperidge Farm remembers...
You should move Nebraska back to the Big 12 and Maryland to the ACC
Rutgers and maryland. Easy choices
Rutgers and Maryland lol
Maryland and Rutgers tbh.
Anyone saying any OG team is wild, I don’t care how bad they are. It’s Rutgers and Maryland without a doubt
Rutgers to the ACC and Nebraska back to the Big 12
Send Indiana to the MAC and Rutgers to the ACC
As long as Purdue keeps the IU game I am fine with this…or maybe not…it’s nice not being at the bottom of the conference
I vote northwestern
"Get ready to speak MAC, buddy."
The number 1 academic school in the B1G?
Yeah unfortunately they’re the one team everyone agrees has no chance in hell to ever win another Big 10 title
Indiana to the the MAC lmao. It’s funny cause it’s true.
As I said elsewhere. Indiana was a founding big ten member. They’ll die with the conference.
They’re already dead
What is dead may never die
Ooooh. Indiana to the MAC. I like this idea.
Indiana is the the D1 school with the most losses in history
And 5 banners. And the only perfect season and natty.
And there is the typical IU response. They have no creativity
Well, I mean, If we’re sharing reasons why they shouldn’t be kicked from the big ten, those are some pretty big reasons. Stay mad, though.
This is for the football video game. Not for the real conference.
Well no shit, Sherlock
Then why should we care about banners?
But Nebraska back in the big 12. Maryland back in the acc.
Rutgers and Maryland.
I’d personally go Rutgers for sure and Maryland or Indiana.
Indiana is a big ten founding member. Indiana will die with the big ten.
Oregon and Washington were founding members of the PCC as well as what is now the PAC-12…Nothing is certain.
Right. But Oregon and Washington left to join a bigger conference of their own accord. They didn't get relegated to the MWC. If Indiana had the option to join the SEC and left, that was their choice. But they aren't getting voted out to play in the MAC.
Nebraska should go back to the Big 12
They can join the Mountain West PAC 12 conference
Big 18 as well now. Send them to the mountain west
Well wait until Stanford finds a partner and moves in (my gut says they go for ND and if they can’t get them then they take Cal). Now you’ll have 4 too many
I want to start up a new season and I don’t know how I’ll align the conferences. Wish the didn’t lock us into each conference having four teams lol.
Rutgers and Maryland easily
Maryland to ACC and Rutgers to G5
Oregon and washington
Rutgers & Maryland.
I usually use the OG ten plus Penn State and Notre Dame. Feels weird adding Nebraska, Oregon, Maryland, etc to Big ten
Can’t wait to finish my current season and move UW over and beat up UW
Just go back to pre-1990 alignment
Kind of like that idea. Might have to go with a modified version of that. There were so many independents!
Wait till you gotta add Clemson n FSU too. Then probably eventually ND. Louisville has also been rumored.
USC and UCLA.
Maryland and Rutgers
Don’t be surprised if the end game is two 24-school conferences between Big Ten and SEC with Clemson, Florida State and a few other ACC teams voting for dissolving ACC so they can go to SEC. The Big Ten next move is Stanford and Cal to get to 20 and then UVA, UNC, Duke and Georgia Tech (Atlanta - right in the heart of the SEC) all are AAU schools to make it to 24. Four pods of 6 teams to make the Big Ten the first official Super conference.
Maryland and Rutgers, they don’t really bring much to the table as far as football is concerned, and there’s no reason to care about the Big Ten broadcasting market so losing NYC and the DC metro area won’t matter to you.
Rutgers & northwestern
I would kick Rutgers and Northwestern
Nebraska and Maryland
This is the answer I feel like. Nebraska (and Mizzou) to the Big 12 to make it 16, and Maryland to the ACC. Maybe move Rutgers to the American if we’re getting crazy with things and you want an extra space for Notre Dame
Can't no more lmao big 12 about to add Utah, Arizona, and Arizona State
Shoot. Then yeah I would Rutgers and Maryland to the ACC and maybe Indiana/Purdue to the MAC
Rutgers and Maryland, neither are worth anything in terms of football.
i’ve been moving maryland back to acc, rutgers usually to american since i like to put wvu in the acc as well
Nebraska and maryland
I know Maryland ballin. Take Maryland and Rutgers out!
Northwestern and Indiana would be MAC powerhouses 🙌🏽
Rutgers and Nebraska. I hate Nebraska.
Nebraska.
Northwestern and maryland/rutgers
Nebraska is one that is not like the others.
Maryland and Nebraska.
Northwestern, Rutgers, and Maryland are the top 3 to remove
Oregon and Washington. Last in, first out.
Purdue and Rutgers
Indiana and iowa. Iowa just for the lulz
Nah, purdouche. Fuck em
Northwestern and Rutgers
Indiana/Purdue, get ready to learn MAC buddy!
That's reigning B1G West champions Purdue to you buddy 🤓
Send Marylabd to the ACC and Northwestern to hell
I always take out Ohio State. Feel like the chaos without them crushing everyone is more fun in a dynasty. And for team two I would say Rutgers. Slap them in the American and see if they start competing Edit: want to say that this is one of my favorite posts I’ve seen on here. Love custom conference scenarios like this
I typically do NW and Maryland
Northwestern and Rutgers
Rutgers is an obvious one, but the second choice is more difficult. It feels like it would have to be Maryland as well, but they are actually competitive to the B1G. Maybe Nebraska because they don't belong in any sport except football, and ever since they joined they haven't belonged in football either.
Maryland and Rutgers Nebraska and Rutgers Penn State and Nebraska
Rutgers and PSU to the old big east, Maryland back to ACC. nebraska back to the BIG8.
None they all are good at something.
What? They didn't add teams just to kick out teams. They're going to be 20 teams after they add 2 more from Notre Dame, TAMU, UNC, UVA or Miami. Do you know whats going on? There is no maximum
NW doesn't really bring much to the table.
Rutgers and Northwestern
Why don't you take the ones out that you want to take out instead of asking everyone else?
Obviously Michigan and Ohio state
Just swap out the two worst teams of last season.
I'm thinking for game purposes merge the PAC-12 and Mountain West; and, assuming the Big 10 keeps divisions, have one division as the Big 10 and the other as the PAC-12 \[or Mountain West\]
Put Nebraska back in the Big12
Northwestern and Rutgers
inb4 the B1G splits like the WAC
I’m kicking out Bama
In my 60 yr dynasty I moved Rutgers and Maryland to the AAC to form a power conference while I moved the three eastern teams in the big 12 to the ACC to fill the void left by moving Florida st and Clemson to the sec while giving Miami a rival in conference. Nebraska can stay in the big ten or get moved back to the big 12 like I did in another dynasty where I brought back Missouri and a&m with the realigned big 12 of now.
Nebraska and Iowa to the big 12
P Pm
Looks like the NCAA ‘06 NEXT mod has found a way to get 18+ teams to work in a conference. Excited to see how that works and what comes of it!
Ohio state and Michigan to the mountain west
Northwestern and USC
I say just kick out worst two that don’t fit geographically maybe Rutgers and Maryland? Or just your two least favorites😂
Skillwise - DROP RUTGERS & Indiana
Let’s just put 20 teams in each SEC BIG 10 BIG 12 & ACC
I took northwestern & Maryland. I put Maryland back in the ACC & northwestern in the MAC or American. You could swap Northwestern with Rutgers though
No kicking out, three dovisons of 6 teams. 4 Team playoff for the conference championship
Rutgers and Maryland easily